And all this is a reason for the supposedly creative and talented programmers to gather in a circlejerk and loudly complain about one (out of many) desktop environment, instead of hacking on your preferred window manager to support your specific Asperger-influenced needs.
It's not like you prefer to get software pre-packaged from a major distribution catering to the lowest common denominator of users, do you?
It's not the CPU. IOS and Android aren't popular because they run on ARM. They're popular because they have well thought-out touch interfaces, good reliability, good integration with the hardware, an SDK that people actually want to develop to, and a well populated marketplace. You don't have any of those things.
I have a Windows Phone and it tells me that you are wrong, on all counts. I do miss a couple of apps, but those are in the "something to do when you are waiting/bored", not anything mission critical.
When setting up Windows 8 in Virtual Box it recommended 1.5 gigs of ram. For something that is suppose to run on tablets that is a lot.
Meanwhile, some smartphones are derided for only having half a gigabyte. Nokia N9 packs 1 GB, because its software failed to run properly in anything less.
Lumia 710 is currently sold out at Vodafone Portugal. Lumia 800 is only available on the same carrier for pre-order, so not even all "Nokia-friendly" markets are fully covered so far.
If I'm switching to a tablet which can't run my old Windows apps... why would I switch to a tablet that runs Windows?
Presumably because the tablet software is good on its own merit? The current Windows Phone UI may work better for some people than whatever the diverse Android ecosystem has fermented so far.
Then, there's a question of which device works best with Microsoft-provided server infrastructure. Again, WP already has the best integration among smartphones with Exchange, Lync, Office 365, and Sharepoint. So there may finally be a solution for corporate sysadmins to counter the BYOD fad without forcing everybody to use tired Blackberrys.
I'll predict that Windows 8 on ARM will simply kill Windows, since there will be no way for Joe Q Public (i.e. NOT your average/. reader) to tell which box will run their accumulated Windows apps, and which ones won't.
Why, it's easy: here's a desktop box, it can run all your crufty Win32 stuff written in 1998 like it ever did (but we gently encourage you to switch to the new apps which are oh so much more shiny). Here's a sleek tablet, now this runs Windows 8 "Tablet Edition" or whatever they'll call it, and you only install apps from the walled garden.
As to getting enough apps in the garden, it's hard to tell. There is already a growing marketplace of applications for Windows Phone, and that's reportedly going to converge with WinRT by Win8/WP8, becoming effectively a subset of the APIs available for the "big" Windows. I got a Nokia Lumia 800, and I was astonished to find high-quality apps provided by my bank, the local newspaper I read, and my IPTV provider. This being in Finland, perhaps they consider Nokia's large presence on the home market inevitable. But it shows that given enough confidence in the new platform, getting useful applications written for it is no big deal really.
The people who are opening their wallet to buy are after the snazziest technology they can get. Bragging rights. By golly, they want to have something that everybody else doesn't have.
Somehow I doubt that the "look, it's got four CPU cores!" line would make every chick fall for you.
It is mildly fascinating to see how much lower expectations Android users have to their devices' battery life, and how they are on the hunt for unofficial firmware that is supposed to make things work better. Isn't it what the device vendor should have provided you out of the box, or was it cheap enough to justify putting up with your phone being a semi-permanent charger attachment, as though you are back in 1990s?
I recently switched from a Nokia N9 to a Lumia 800, and the new phone makes me go tut-tut when it loses half the charge over the day. Right now it shows the battery at 49% after 23 hours of moderate use (which included some calling, browsing, checking the Facebook feed, reading a newspaper app, and playing music off Spotify for half an hour), and it estimates 18 hours left.
They don't want the best effort internet traffic to swamp the premium voice traffic. So if they want to go full VOIP they need to build QOS into every aspect of the network.
If you read the relevant 3GPP specs, you will see that this is very much the case: IMS voice is normally sent over a radio access network bearer separate from internet traffic, and bandwidth reservation for voice and video channels is further negotiated.
Further they have to work out how you will handle phones switching mid call from 4G voip to 2G/3G circuit switched voice when they go out of 4G coverage.
The handover procedures on a single radio have also been specified and demonstrated, see SRVCC.
Finally all the carriers and phone vendors need to agree on this so it can be incorporated into mass market phones.
This is the real problem: now all the carriers care about is 4G data for its faster transfer rates, so this is what phone vendors focus their efforts on. For some time in the future, we will have to live with CS voice fallback in "4G" networks, which means that active data bearers will downgrade to 3G whenever a call is made or received. Not that it is a big problem in practice.
W-CDMA is the air interface standard adopted by 3GPP for UMTS cellular networks based on, and backwards compatible with, GSM. It uses basically the same channel access method, called code division multiple access, as the incompatible standard named CDMA which got widely adopted in North America. The consortium responsible for CDMA went their own ways and developed CDMA2000, which is what CDMA carriers use as their 3G network technology.
Because you think somebody can be tricked into getting spam through this, and is dumb enough to not be able to cut the spammer off, means that the technology is useless for any legitimate purpose?
And pushing shouldn't require you to keep a connection open to each site, it should just require you to keep one port open where all push notifications would go. The server would open a connection to that port in order to send the push.
Of course, this works wonderfully in modern day internet, where pretty much every ordinary web client is behind a NAT and/or a firewall of some sort. There are all sorts of ugly solutions to keep that external port open on whatever box controls it (and you are fortunate if there's just one between you and the server), but nothing works as reliably as a TCP connection that is kept alive with periodic pings.
That said, one connection to take care about all notifications is much better than many web apps doing periodic polls, or even opening a WebSocket each for itself.
Well on this point I probably agree: It shows he is from old Nokia. The one that didn't need shills to convince us they are the best. The ones we Europeans loved.;]
The ones you Europeans stopped buying, so that Tomi had to leave his cushy Nokia job and start a blogging career?
you don't care about Ram which N9 has twice as much as lumia does
N9 is also many times slower in UI reaction times, sometimes annoyingly so. I wonder if there is an object lesson there somewhere...
how you don't need more than 16GB of internal flash (never wanted to film anything lengthy like a concert in HD I guess.)
Why would you use a phone for non-casual filming? Get yourself a real camera.
you don't need Xenon flash, etc..
Would be nice, but then again, I have a photo camera for when I'm up to taking good quality pictures, and even that sucks in poor light conditions. So I wouldn't fancy myself a pro with any camera phone; it's only about casual shots when you have nothing better at hand.
However all this is spin and salesman talk.
No, this is me, a phone user, who refuses to buy spec sheet arguments as if higher specs by themselves mean anything to my actual phone usage, besides the extra money to the price tag. So Ahonen's rhetoric fails to persuade me.
It shows that he is from old Nokia: he tries to assert inferiority by disingenious spec sheet comparison. No wonder that fellows like him couldn't understand how Apple ate their lunch. No, I don't fucking care about TV output for my phone. I don't know why would I need a removable storage card when my phone has 16 GB of internal flash. I think 12 megapixels is pointless marketing-driven overkill given the tiny camera that fits in a phone, and I haven't seen any qualitative confirmation that it makes a lot of difference (funny how he defeats his own point by pitching N8 vs. Titan II: it's not the megapixels, stupid). He praises the N9, which is just about the same hardware-wise, somehow it all is not a problem there? The rant about doing the design in the US of incompetent A is just pathetic (how then N9 with practically the same mechanics is a marvel of Finnish engineering?). Tomi, give the world a break, or should we bring up that American iPhone thing again?;-)
So if we take just one prediction of Mr. Ahonen that happened to hit the ballpark, and ignore some others where he was full of shit, we can say he is remarkably accurate? OK...
Thirdly, forbes: # Number 1 spot belongs to ex-Nokia executive Tomi Ahonen whose blog Communities Dominate Brands is a fixture on the mobile scene largely because of Ahonen’s comprehensive knowledge of the mobile ecosystem. Tomi is based out of Hong Kong.
And the method of this particular Forbes contributor is to measure the Twitter flutter that each posting generates. Sorry, I was unaware that the most successful internet trolls count for "power influencers" these days. I guess that weather announcer guy named Watts is a power influencer in climate science, by the same measure.
And lastly, same analyst posts 13 reasons based on fact that Lumia is a failure. You should read it, instead of just ranting that everyone is being unfair to microsoft.
I actually read it earlier, and most of the reasons he puts forward are not true or carry disputable opinions. No messaging, really? Bad cameras? I'm afraid he didn't see the 900 coming. Look and feel not competitive? I guess by "typical Nokia elements" he means the retarded Symbian menus. Fails in variety of models? Yeah, Nokia should have put 20 barely distinguishable models on the market a year down from the big platform switch. Can't you see that this guy started with the conclusion and then tried to work out reasons for it?
Got it. I dunno. Personally, I would never buy anything from LG; they are firmly in the "cheap crap" territory, a notch above no-name Chinese stuff (I'm old enough to remember when they used to be GoldStar). No idea how many people have the same brand perception, and how many others will happily buy crap if it's $20 cheaper.
except China, where they'd surely release the Lumia if the designers of the Metro UI in their unfathomable wisdom didn't decide to make a typography-centric UI that takes quite some time to change the script, if even possible
What? Do you know how localization is done in modern software? If anything, Chinese text labels done in Hanzi will tend to be more compact than English (and you have some metaphoric license for the most prominent ones to make them terse), so they will fit well into the same layouts.
So there are reliable stats for people who buy N9 online? I guess a chunk of those sales comes from those countries where it is still the top Nokia phone sold in stores. And these stores should be switching to Lumia soon.
Let's see, once the number of N9 enthusiasts who did not yet buy themselves one dries up, and Lumia 900, which is the really fair comparison spec-wise, starts selling. Lumia 800 is more of a "getting things out quick" solution, but it can work if you don't care about hardware that hardly anybody has a real use for, like a crappy buttonhole camera for nausea-inducing video calls, or a dual-core CPU to compensate for poorly optimized software, which WP 7.5 reportedly isn't.
N9 was never on the front of the "MeeGo strategy", which was, frankly, a pathetic bungle. N9 software was a one-off project based on the older Maemo work, to get something out while MeeGo, the platform shared with Intel, was being developed for real. But they did brand it as some "MeeGo-kinda-but-not-quite" bullshit to create confusion which later contributed to the myth. The lack of focus caused real MeeGo to be hopelessly late in reaching any kind of platform maturity. Even the N9 was only released in late 2011, nearly a year after all major strategic decisions have been evaluated and made.
Yes, glory to Anonymous Cowards who dare to "expose" named users for having an opinion.
It sounds like you feel that you "won" in something. I should not hurt this powerful feeling; I guess many young people need it, for self-esteem or whatever. The reality may prove to be different, though,.
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And all this is a reason for the supposedly creative and talented programmers to gather in a circlejerk and loudly complain about one (out of many) desktop environment, instead of hacking on your preferred window manager to support your specific Asperger-influenced needs.
It's not like you prefer to get software pre-packaged from a major distribution catering to the lowest common denominator of users, do you?
Nice rant, and extra /. cred points for not having RTFA.
That's nothing. When Christopher Johnson returns, he's gonna kick some ass.
Sounds like you've never really tried Windows Phone. There's nothing shitty about the user experience, it's actually livable.
It's not the CPU. IOS and Android aren't popular because they run on ARM. They're popular because they have well thought-out touch interfaces, good reliability, good integration with the hardware, an SDK that people actually want to develop to, and a well populated marketplace. You don't have any of those things.
I have a Windows Phone and it tells me that you are wrong, on all counts. I do miss a couple of apps, but those are in the "something to do when you are waiting/bored", not anything mission critical.
When setting up Windows 8 in Virtual Box it recommended 1.5 gigs of ram. For something that is suppose to run on tablets that is a lot.
Meanwhile, some smartphones are derided for only having half a gigabyte. Nokia N9 packs 1 GB, because its software failed to run properly in anything less.
Lumia 710 is currently sold out at Vodafone Portugal. Lumia 800 is only available on the same carrier for pre-order, so not even all "Nokia-friendly" markets are fully covered so far.
If I'm switching to a tablet which can't run my old Windows apps... why would I switch to a tablet that runs Windows?
Presumably because the tablet software is good on its own merit? The current Windows Phone UI may work better for some people than whatever the diverse Android ecosystem has fermented so far.
Then, there's a question of which device works best with Microsoft-provided server infrastructure. Again, WP already has the best integration among smartphones with Exchange, Lync, Office 365, and Sharepoint. So there may finally be a solution for corporate sysadmins to counter the BYOD fad without forcing everybody to use tired Blackberrys.
I'll predict that Windows 8 on ARM will simply kill Windows, since there will be no way for Joe Q Public (i.e. NOT your average /. reader) to tell which box will run their accumulated Windows apps, and which ones won't.
Why, it's easy: here's a desktop box, it can run all your crufty Win32 stuff written in 1998 like it ever did (but we gently encourage you to switch to the new apps which are oh so much more shiny). Here's a sleek tablet, now this runs Windows 8 "Tablet Edition" or whatever they'll call it, and you only install apps from the walled garden.
As to getting enough apps in the garden, it's hard to tell. There is already a growing marketplace of applications for Windows Phone, and that's reportedly going to converge with WinRT by Win8/WP8, becoming effectively a subset of the APIs available for the "big" Windows. I got a Nokia Lumia 800, and I was astonished to find high-quality apps provided by my bank, the local newspaper I read, and my IPTV provider. This being in Finland, perhaps they consider Nokia's large presence on the home market inevitable. But it shows that given enough confidence in the new platform, getting useful applications written for it is no big deal really.
The people who are opening their wallet to buy are after the snazziest technology they can get. Bragging rights. By golly, they want to have something that everybody else doesn't have.
Somehow I doubt that the "look, it's got four CPU cores!" line would make every chick fall for you.
It is mildly fascinating to see how much lower expectations Android users have to their devices' battery life, and how they are on the hunt for unofficial firmware that is supposed to make things work better. Isn't it what the device vendor should have provided you out of the box, or was it cheap enough to justify putting up with your phone being a semi-permanent charger attachment, as though you are back in 1990s?
I recently switched from a Nokia N9 to a Lumia 800, and the new phone makes me go tut-tut when it loses half the charge over the day. Right now it shows the battery at 49% after 23 hours of moderate use (which included some calling, browsing, checking the Facebook feed, reading a newspaper app, and playing music off Spotify for half an hour), and it estimates 18 hours left.
They don't want the best effort internet traffic to swamp the premium voice traffic. So if they want to go full VOIP they need to build QOS into every aspect of the network.
If you read the relevant 3GPP specs, you will see that this is very much the case: IMS voice is normally sent over a radio access network bearer separate from internet traffic, and bandwidth reservation for voice and video channels is further negotiated.
Further they have to work out how you will handle phones switching mid call from 4G voip to 2G/3G circuit switched voice when they go out of 4G coverage.
The handover procedures on a single radio have also been specified and demonstrated, see SRVCC.
Finally all the carriers and phone vendors need to agree on this so it can be incorporated into mass market phones.
This is the real problem: now all the carriers care about is 4G data for its faster transfer rates, so this is what phone vendors focus their efforts on. For some time in the future, we will have to live with CS voice fallback in "4G" networks, which means that active data bearers will downgrade to 3G whenever a call is made or received. Not that it is a big problem in practice.
W-CDMA is the air interface standard adopted by 3GPP for UMTS cellular networks based on, and backwards compatible with, GSM. It uses basically the same channel access method, called code division multiple access, as the incompatible standard named CDMA which got widely adopted in North America. The consortium responsible for CDMA went their own ways and developed CDMA2000, which is what CDMA carriers use as their 3G network technology.
Because you think somebody can be tricked into getting spam through this, and is dumb enough to not be able to cut the spammer off, means that the technology is useless for any legitimate purpose?
And pushing shouldn't require you to keep a connection open to each site, it should just require you to keep one port open where all push notifications would go. The server would open a connection to that port in order to send the push.
Of course, this works wonderfully in modern day internet, where pretty much every ordinary web client is behind a NAT and/or a firewall of some sort. There are all sorts of ugly solutions to keep that external port open on whatever box controls it (and you are fortunate if there's just one between you and the server), but nothing works as reliably as a TCP connection that is kept alive with periodic pings.
That said, one connection to take care about all notifications is much better than many web apps doing periodic polls, or even opening a WebSocket each for itself.
Well on this point I probably agree: It shows he is from old Nokia. The one that didn't need shills to convince us they are the best. The ones we Europeans loved. ;]
The ones you Europeans stopped buying, so that Tomi had to leave his cushy Nokia job and start a blogging career?
you don't care about Ram which N9 has twice as much as lumia does
N9 is also many times slower in UI reaction times, sometimes annoyingly so. I wonder if there is an object lesson there somewhere...
how you don't need more than 16GB of internal flash (never wanted to film anything lengthy like a concert in HD I guess.)
Why would you use a phone for non-casual filming? Get yourself a real camera.
you don't need Xenon flash, etc..
Would be nice, but then again, I have a photo camera for when I'm up to taking good quality pictures, and even that sucks in poor light conditions. So I wouldn't fancy myself a pro with any camera phone; it's only about casual shots when you have nothing better at hand.
However all this is spin and salesman talk.
No, this is me, a phone user, who refuses to buy spec sheet arguments as if higher specs by themselves mean anything to my actual phone usage, besides the extra money to the price tag. So Ahonen's rhetoric fails to persuade me.
It shows that he is from old Nokia: he tries to assert inferiority by disingenious spec sheet comparison. No wonder that fellows like him couldn't understand how Apple ate their lunch. No, I don't fucking care about TV output for my phone. I don't know why would I need a removable storage card when my phone has 16 GB of internal flash. I think 12 megapixels is pointless marketing-driven overkill given the tiny camera that fits in a phone, and I haven't seen any qualitative confirmation that it makes a lot of difference (funny how he defeats his own point by pitching N8 vs. Titan II: it's not the megapixels, stupid). He praises the N9, which is just about the same hardware-wise, somehow it all is not a problem there? The rant about doing the design in the US of incompetent A is just pathetic (how then N9 with practically the same mechanics is a marvel of Finnish engineering?). Tomi, give the world a break, or should we bring up that American iPhone thing again? ;-)
Second one: I mean like this prediction When Things Get Even Worse Than You Thought - 1st Preview of Potential for Nokia Microsoft Partnership, short term 2011 and 2012. He got the numbers down with remarkable accuracy.
So if we take just one prediction of Mr. Ahonen that happened to hit the ballpark, and ignore some others where he was full of shit, we can say he is remarkably accurate? OK...
Thirdly, forbes:
# Number 1 spot belongs to ex-Nokia executive Tomi Ahonen whose blog Communities Dominate Brands is a fixture on the mobile scene largely because of Ahonen’s comprehensive knowledge of the mobile ecosystem. Tomi is based out of Hong Kong.
And the method of this particular Forbes contributor is to measure the Twitter flutter that each posting generates. Sorry, I was unaware that the most successful internet trolls count for "power influencers" these days. I guess that weather announcer guy named Watts is a power influencer in climate science, by the same measure.
And lastly, same analyst posts 13 reasons based on fact that Lumia is a failure. You should read it, instead of just ranting that everyone is being unfair to microsoft.
I actually read it earlier, and most of the reasons he puts forward are not true or carry disputable opinions. No messaging, really? Bad cameras? I'm afraid he didn't see the 900 coming. Look and feel not competitive? I guess by "typical Nokia elements" he means the retarded Symbian menus. Fails in variety of models? Yeah, Nokia should have put 20 barely distinguishable models on the market a year down from the big platform switch. Can't you see that this guy started with the conclusion and then tried to work out reasons for it?
Never mind that he is a former Nokia strategist,
I wonder what made him an ex-Nokian, especially considering the rampage against Nokia leadership he seems to have been on lately.
his predictions to date are astonishingly accurate
You mean like his prediction of an iPhone app market crash?
and even forbes thinks he is one of the most influential speakers on mobile today?
Citation?
Get over it, he is right, Lumia fails..
I reckon it's too early to say with certainty, without a hearty dose of wishful thinking.
Got it. I dunno. Personally, I would never buy anything from LG; they are firmly in the "cheap crap" territory, a notch above no-name Chinese stuff (I'm old enough to remember when they used to be GoldStar). No idea how many people have the same brand perception, and how many others will happily buy crap if it's $20 cheaper.
except China, where they'd surely release the Lumia if the designers of the Metro UI in their unfathomable wisdom didn't decide to make a typography-centric UI that takes quite some time to change the script, if even possible
What? Do you know how localization is done in modern software?
If anything, Chinese text labels done in Hanzi will tend to be more compact than English (and you have some metaphoric license for the most prominent ones to make them terse), so they will fit well into the same layouts.
So there are reliable stats for people who buy N9 online? I guess a chunk of those sales comes from those countries where it is still the top Nokia phone sold in stores. And these stores should be switching to Lumia soon.
Let's see, once the number of N9 enthusiasts who did not yet buy themselves one dries up, and Lumia 900, which is the really fair comparison spec-wise, starts selling. Lumia 800 is more of a "getting things out quick" solution, but it can work if you don't care about hardware that hardly anybody has a real use for, like a crappy buttonhole camera for nausea-inducing video calls, or a dual-core CPU to compensate for poorly optimized software, which WP 7.5 reportedly isn't.
N9 was never on the front of the "MeeGo strategy", which was, frankly, a pathetic bungle. N9 software was a one-off project based on the older Maemo work, to get something out while MeeGo, the platform shared with Intel, was being developed for real. But they did brand it as some "MeeGo-kinda-but-not-quite" bullshit to create confusion which later contributed to the myth. The lack of focus caused real MeeGo to be hopelessly late in reaching any kind of platform maturity. Even the N9 was only released in late 2011, nearly a year after all major strategic decisions have been evaluated and made.
Hm, so this guy is for real?
Yes, glory to Anonymous Cowards who dare to "expose" named users for having an opinion.
It sounds like you feel that you "won" in something. I should not hurt this powerful feeling; I guess many young people need it, for self-esteem or whatever. The reality may prove to be different, though,.