they are not saying that they are having problems...
they are just saying that there are so many replies to this that it would be a waste of bandwidth to show you them all if all you wanted to do was read the freaking article... saves my bandwidth and theirs.. i like it...
what is to say that any person is just one of these things too?
when you are coding, are you not a coder? when you are hacking at code, are you not a hacker? when you are cracking (your own site, ofcourse) are you not a cracker?
How's about the origin of the word's derigotorialness (is that a word?)..
when you take your slaves out and give them a good beating with your bull whip, are you again not a cracker?
what the hell is wrong with the people who are complaining...
I have gotten 53k connects, and I have gotten as low as the high 40s... These people who aren't getting better than 24000 are probably using category 3 wiring for a quarter mile in their house, exposing it to all forms of radiation and crosstalk...
Beyond that - It says on the box that you won't get 56k... It also says that you may not even get the 53k if your line is not prestine... Maybe they should have read the box before purchasing.
At my last home I had beautiful self wired phone lines, and I was less than 6 blocks from the central office... 53k was absolute...
Where I live now the phone line is shared with my neighbor and spliced quite a number of times... While standard 33.6k modems will only connect me at 26.4 -31.2 tops on this line, 56k modems get me up to 44k... I am quite greatful...
Ofcourse I did order new phone lines, and now I am not sharing and am back up to 53k, so 44k can kiss my ass...
thanks you USR and all other parties involved, nice work...
Turn the box on: 20 seconds or less: the kernel has detected and loaded drivers for all of you hardware.
2 mins or less: all your daemons are started based on your start up scripts, which the distribution you chose will have setup for you (if you choose that route)
Done... no need to login, the box is ready to run for life...
However, should the box go down due to some freak power accident, when the power comes back up, the filesystem check will do its damndest to repair the the unsynced inodes, the machine starts and is ready to run... no human interaction needed...
I have seen plenty of "Daemons" that require a user to login to the NT Gui before they will run... Ergo, upon boot oro reboot your machine is not ready to run until you interact.. I have also seen ntfs completely die on numerous occasions because of a simple crash, or powerout... At worst I have lost my last 5minutes worth of downloads on a linux die or powerout (the only only reason my linux dies is because i dont mind it - so i use the absolute latest untested versions of everything and i do some pretty dumb things to my boxes - HW/Network wise..)
Asking them to perform such a comparison would be like saying "ignore our crappy performance, isn't it obvious, you guys spent 10,000x more money than we..." At the same time bus. profs. may just look at the findings and say the same, "well they put so much money into it, it must be better..."
I had two other navigator 4.51 windows open (slashdot main and some linux news page)... when i opened the ms page they all "poof be-gone'd"...
Within 5secs I had my navigator reloaded and followed slashdot back to ms, no problems.. (squid caching helped that a bit)..
can't you just image them anticipating all these visits by Mozilla-linux browsers and inserting some snip-it of navigator killer code that they have not reported as a bug to the developers, a sort of biological weapon in a bottle...
I'm 20... Through out the last two years of high school, i worked at Eckerd Drugs, as a sales/stock/everything boy... Got paid $4.25/hr.
I started my first NT/IT/support job out of High School. (actually CompUSA sales for one month prior), got $9-$10 (salary 40hours but 13.50 for overtime).
After 1 year of that I got bored and picked up a side VB programming job 40hours total @$40/hr...
I picked up 1 semester of community college. I took up a part time IT job with the company I programmed for. (lasted 6 months till the company went under) I picked up a web devel/admin job - working out of a 10x4 size room - i left after a month.
I picked up a compaq tech phone support job. totalled about 500 calls, that payed dirt...left after a month..
Picked up a contract job for 6mos for a state governement agency. The pay was $40k/yr, but got boring after 3months of installing winnt/95. I stayed anyhow...
After 2 months of a web admin/devel/MS shop - got bored and was being paid (considering unpaid overtime) less than eckerd, so i left...
There isn't much that I haven't done for support/IT/IS/unix/winblows... none of the jobs really seem all that appealing.. Perhaps there was a boom of the geeks to the net/unix, and now that it has been explored we should just go back to what ever it is we would have been doing? Or maybe now that we are all in the same place (and state of mind) we should do something for a greater cause together...
Or I suppose we could just say fuck it, and live out our lives somewhere between stagnent and misserable...
i did a little bit of web research and find that their is stuff about wavelet dating back to 1990... i also find www.wavelet.org:) on there second newsletter they give c++ source for the compression codec...
doesn't everyone here remembering hearing about this from either slashdot or freshmeat... this is at least 6mos old.. i'm thinking it is more like one year though..
did he whine? my take was that he just wanted to make clear that free != open why should anyone own an idea - or the implementation to exploit an idea? we are all one people - aren't we all working towards the same common goal? obviously some people can't see beyond their pockets... we have a place for them though, they can sell what they like.. if you want to package and market boxes of dung - feel free to do so.. just show us whats in the box before we buy it. but i suppose that isn't a good analogy - it is more like selling air, which we can get our selves for free.. but giving it a different name and not saying what it really is... if they want to make $$$ they can just sell us rebreathers or breathing lessons... charge someone based on your time and resources - which you give openly to someone. if you buy a rock, you know you bought a rock - you can disect it and determine that it is made from x,y,z minerals. if you pay for someones time you can watch what they do and see your money being spent on time. dont sell your idea unless you are willing to include the essence of the idea too (ie. the code)... confused yet? me too... i will stop now...
Is Inferno just a Java type thing, or is it possible to boot inferno - no other OS involved?
What about plan-9, or amoeba - can someone clarify?
(well i know amoeba is independent - hey look at that, Tanenbaum opened up the license on Amoeba, now it is free to more than Big Universities. X-Free style license. http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/ )
Is Inferno just a Java type thing, or is it possible to boot inferno - no other OS involved?
What about plan-9, or amoeba - can someone?
(well i know amoeba is independent - hey look at that Tanenbaum opened up the license on Amoeba, now it is free to more than Big Universities http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/
ok - so now are computers have an extra id tag.. all dells and compaqs come with S/N - this is no different..
What I don't understand is, why are so many linux users complaining? If the kernel adds an API function for it, then we can use it for our own systems management - at the same time it could be a kernel config option. If a rogue program trys to access it through i/o means - oh well - thats what you get for running pre-compiled bins.
even in the event that microsoft and linux both give full access to this number, if the browser doesn't allow it to be transfered - you are still safe.. again the only problem being that some rogue program may transfer the number to some site without consent - but again, thats what you get...
even if it is not - if you've got wine and dosemu, there is no file you cant unarchive.. perhaps the mp4 player works under wine? i know winamp does...
Slashdot Mirror
they are not saying that they are having problems...
they are just saying that there are so many replies to this that it would be a waste of bandwidth to show you them all if all you wanted to do was read the freaking article... saves my bandwidth and theirs.. i like it...
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
hows about Code Jedi? or Codi Knight? or Code at Night, for that matter?
Hacker Plus? Real Hacker? Hacker 2000?
maybe Call the H6x0rz - L77Ti35 (pardon my french - Leeties)
or for the really good ones: Kung-Fu Hackers/Crackers?
Magi Crack/Hack?
or we can just jive the press into believing in th unicracker? mad cracker? damn cracker? gram cracker? grand master hacker? bran muffin?
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
exactly.. what is wrong with "coder"?
what is to say that any person is just one of these things too?
when you are coding, are you not a coder?
when you are hacking at code, are you not a hacker?
when you are cracking (your own site, ofcourse) are you not a cracker?
How's about the origin of the word's derigotorialness (is that a word?)..
when you take your slaves out and give them a good beating with your bull whip, are you again not a cracker?
if you prick me, do I not leak beer?
someone borrowed my two cents...
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
what the hell is wrong with the people who are complaining...
I have gotten 53k connects, and I have gotten as low as the high 40s... These people who aren't getting better than 24000 are probably using category 3 wiring for a quarter mile in their house, exposing it to all forms of radiation and crosstalk...
Beyond that - It says on the box that you won't get 56k... It also says that you may not even get the 53k if your line is not prestine... Maybe they should have read the box before purchasing.
At my last home I had beautiful self wired phone lines, and I was less than 6 blocks from the central office... 53k was absolute...
Where I live now the phone line is shared with my neighbor and spliced quite a number of times... While standard 33.6k modems will only connect me at 26.4 -31.2 tops on this line, 56k modems get me up to 44k... I am quite greatful...
Ofcourse I did order new phone lines, and now I am not sharing and am back up to 53k, so 44k can kiss my ass...
thanks you USR and all other parties involved, nice work...
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
Exqueeze Me, Baby powder?
LINUX DOES work like that too..
Turn the box on:
20 seconds or less: the kernel has detected and loaded drivers for all of you hardware.
2 mins or less: all your daemons are started based on your start up scripts, which the distribution you chose will have setup for you (if you choose that route)
Done... no need to login, the box is ready to run for life...
However, should the box go down due to some freak power accident, when the power comes back up, the filesystem check will do its damndest to repair the the unsynced inodes, the machine starts and is ready to run... no human interaction needed...
I have seen plenty of "Daemons" that require a user to login to the NT Gui before they will run... Ergo, upon boot oro reboot your machine is not ready to run until you interact.. I have also seen ntfs completely die on numerous occasions because of a simple crash, or powerout... At worst I have lost my last 5minutes worth of downloads on a linux die or powerout (the only only reason my linux dies is because i dont mind it - so i use the absolute latest untested versions of everything and i do some pretty dumb things to my boxes - HW/Network wise..)
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
And which one is the standard distribution?
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
DeJaVu!! DeJaVu is usually caused by the matrix changingn itself.
DeJaVu!! DeJaVu is usually caused by the matrix changing itself.
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
That may not help so much.
Asking them to perform such a comparison would be like saying "ignore our crappy performance, isn't it obvious, you guys spent 10,000x more money than we..." At the same time bus. profs. may just look at the findings and say the same, "well they put so much money into it, it must be better..."
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
I noticed.. I just thought I'd' keep my mouth shut...
:)
I'm sure at first glance of the "error" they would simply flip-flop them regardless of which ever is correct...
Actually it is an error, their percentages are realy off.
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
Who defines shipping code?
/usr/src/apache/src/speedup.c" :)
Do you mean that they have to use the latest Redhat/Debian/etc? (which by no means == Linux)
Or do you simply mean that while at Ziff, Cox and Co. can't say, "2 Secs! Thats too slow, Shite!, vi
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
I had two other navigator 4.51 windows open (slashdot main and some linux news page)... when i opened the ms page they all "poof be-gone'd"...
Within 5secs I had my navigator reloaded and followed slashdot back to ms, no problems.. (squid caching helped that a bit)..
can't you just image them anticipating all these visits by Mozilla-linux browsers and inserting some snip-it of navigator killer code that they have not reported as a bug to the developers, a sort of biological weapon in a bottle...
--
Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
Everyone's got the same story, here is mine..
I'm 20...
Through out the last two years of high school, i worked at Eckerd Drugs, as a sales/stock/everything boy... Got paid $4.25/hr.
I started my first NT/IT/support job out of High School.
(actually CompUSA sales for one month prior), got $9-$10 (salary 40hours but 13.50 for overtime).
After 1 year of that I got bored and picked up a side VB programming job 40hours total @$40/hr...
I picked up 1 semester of community college.
I took up a part time IT job with the company I programmed for. (lasted 6 months till the company went under)
I picked up a web devel/admin job - working out of a 10x4 size room - i left after a month.
I picked up a compaq tech phone support job. totalled about 500 calls, that payed dirt...left after a month..
Picked up a contract job for 6mos for a state governement agency. The pay was $40k/yr, but got boring after 3months of installing winnt/95. I stayed anyhow...
After 2 months of a web admin/devel/MS shop - got bored and was being paid (considering unpaid overtime) less than eckerd, so i left...
There isn't much that I haven't done for support/IT/IS/unix/winblows... none of the jobs really seem all that appealing.. Perhaps there was a boom of the geeks to the net/unix, and now that it has been explored we should just go back to what ever it is we would have been doing? Or maybe now that we are all in the same place (and state of mind) we should do something for a greater cause together...
Or I suppose we could just say fuck it, and live out our lives somewhere between stagnent and misserable...
Which ever...
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Marques Johansson
displague@linuxfan.com
does this new site not look more like a box of marlboro cigarettes than the old site???
does anyone else notice that this is called virgina??? do you suppose this is intentional or accidental?
i did a little bit of web research and find that their is stuff about wavelet dating back to 1990... :)
i also find www.wavelet.org
on there second newsletter they give c++ source for the compression codec...
doesn't everyone here remembering hearing about this from either slashdot or freshmeat... .. i'm thinking it is more like one year though..
this is at least 6mos old
did he whine?
my take was that he just wanted to make clear that free != open
why should anyone own an idea - or the implementation to exploit an idea?
we are all one people - aren't we all working towards the same common goal?
obviously some people can't see beyond their pockets...
we have a place for them though, they can sell what they like.. if you want to package and market boxes of dung - feel free to do so.. just show us whats in the box before we buy it.
but i suppose that isn't a good analogy - it is more like selling air, which we can get our selves for free.. but giving it a different name and not saying what it really is... if they want to make $$$ they can just sell us rebreathers or breathing lessons...
charge someone based on your time and resources - which you give openly to someone. if you buy a rock, you know you bought a rock - you can disect it and determine that it is made from x,y,z minerals. if you pay for someones time you can watch what they do and see your money being spent on time. dont sell your idea unless you are willing to include the essence of the idea too (ie. the code)...
confused yet? me too... i will stop now...
Is Inferno just a Java type thing, or is it possible to boot inferno - no other OS involved?
What about plan-9, or amoeba - can someone clarify?
(well i know amoeba is independent - hey look at that, Tanenbaum opened up the license on Amoeba, now it is free to more than Big Universities. X-Free style license.
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/ )
Is Inferno just a Java type thing, or is it possible to boot inferno - no other OS involved?
What about plan-9, or amoeba - can someone?
(well i know amoeba is independent - hey look at that Tanenbaum opened up the license on Amoeba, now it is free to more than Big Universities
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/
ok - so now are computers have an extra id tag..
all dells and compaqs come with S/N - this is no different..
What I don't understand is, why are so many linux users complaining? If the kernel adds an API function for it, then we can use it for our own systems management - at the same time it could be a kernel config option. If a rogue program trys to access it through i/o means - oh well - thats what you get for running pre-compiled bins.
even in the event that microsoft and linux both give full access to this number, if the browser doesn't allow it to be transfered - you are still safe.. again the only problem being that some rogue program may transfer the number to some site without consent - but again, thats what you get...
even if it is not - if you've got wine and dosemu, there is no file you cant unarchive.. perhaps the mp4 player works under wine? i know winamp does...