if C is ever going to have a chance in the USA the election rules need to change. if that doesn't happen, then we are stuck with A or B. C can never compete, just siphon votes from A or B and thereby ensuring the other letter wins. no horrible conspiracy. just basic mathematics
ukraine replaced communism with kleptocracy and russian neoimperialism. the old want communism back. the young want actual capitalism and to move to european influence
presumably if a heavily socialist country were to succeed then you would argue that it wasn't really communism.
yeah, because you are correct, those are different ideologies. you understand that, right?
What really matters about a government isn't whether it is nominally capitalist or communist
of course asshole, it doesn't matter if a country is *nominally* anything. it matters what it *actually* is
What matters is whether the country has a government of, by and for the (ordinary) people.
you could have cut out all the meandering crap and just written that and actually had a good point. of course that's the fucking goal
with all of those problems they are still doing far far better than us on all important measures (health, income, happiness, etc.)
we must adopt the social safety nets of the nordic countries and revive our middle class
or continue on the path we are currently on and reap more poverty, more social unrest, just so a few billionaires can make a billion more because morons don't understand the simple basics about how economics works
when i describe a kind of facile simpleton who only understands low iq binary extremes, it helps not to enter the conversation embodying that exact socially retarded propaganda victim
you don't understand the topic. you're a dimwitted tool hand painting in kindergarten class. that is the level of your understanding of this topic you inject your ignorance into
educate yourself, then develop an actual valid opinion
all communist experiments failed, and all variations on communism will fail. the other causes of the failure of the various communist experiments you allude to contributed, yes, but in the end are not the sole reasons for the failure of communism. communism itself is flawed and incompatible with human nature and will never work
in the same sense that blind social darwinistic capitalism leads to the inevitable concentration of capital and power in the hands of the few, and everyone else dirt poor. that's the end game of unbridled capitalism. the middle class is continuing to die in the usa because too many idiots don't realize this
they will learn. either the easy way or the hard way. either the next communist country will be the usa after a revolution because of the gross inequality. or people will simply wake the fuck up, see what the nordic countries are doing, and copy them. or just canada for crying out loud. and adjust course and give us generous social safety nets: universal healthcare, high minimum wage, free daycare, generous maternity leave for fathers and mothers, free or low cost higher education, etc
and force plutocrats and corporations to pay their fucking fair tax share
communism is obviously an invalid evil system that did not work and never will
but unfortunately in the fight against it, these simpletons come out of the fight with this very kneejerk one dimensional view of the conflict, and a very kneejerk simplistic idea of what the conflict achieved, and what actually won. and then they want to go deeper in the other direction, when the simple truth is, that like many complex topics in this world, extremes suck and the middle ground is the best
why did communism even exist in the first place?
it was a reaction to plutocracy and social darwinism. you look at the abuses of 1800s and you can understand why there was even communist revolutions in the first place: people don't like being treated as slaves
but these idiots want to go back to the abuses of the gilded age, and forget the lessons of that, because they can only keep one lesson in their minds at a time
the real lesson is to not vacillate between capitalist greed establishing classism and plutocracy, and then the inevitable communist and populist revolts because of the growing inequality. followed by corruption, decay and oligarchs again
the idea is to pick a middle road of capitalist competition, and generous social safety nets. this maximizes stability, happiness, and riches
the middle road. far superior to the idiots and their extremes
i agree it ruins the spirit of star trek, but so what? all franchises die. look at the last 3 star wars movies
now movie 7 of star wars is being helmed by the same guy who watered down star trek. so it will be an equally disneyfied plastic semblance of what it once was. everyone is excited but look at what abrams pumps out and the writing is on the wall: safe, middle of the road
and? so what?
fanboys need to understand something: everything dies. everything is ruined and decays over time
you need to move on, find a new franchise. enjoy that while it blazes in its glory
because they all die
go buy the the original series and the next generation and watch them. enjoy them
i never understood this braindead attitude where the only systems in the world are social darwinistic capitalism, and communism
nothing in between
when of course there are thousands of systems in between. in fact the richest and happiest countries in the world, the nordic countries, pretty well balance social safety nets and capitalism. that's actually the ideal society
but if you view everything as capitalism and communism, nothing else, your ideology and philosophy is childish and facile. you haven't given an intellectually honest thought to the subject matter you inject your uneducated opinion into. you're a propaganda victim
this not a baseless insult
you present it as binary: capitalism or communism. when it obviously isn't binary. there are thousands of shades in between, in fact, the best system most definitely is not pure capitalism. objectively, as a function of the most successful societies today, and their economic and political systems
furthermore, the economic, political, social, and cultural systems of the federation are categorically, factually, not communist. define communism. then define the federation. and they do not match, they are far apart
but because it is not pure capitalism, you have to call it communism. because those are the only two extremes you understand. you're a simpleton, an ignorant on the topic
look, if you want to act like wesley snipes and put your faith in some completely made up bullshit, have fun. but stop trying to sell insane here, nobody is buying it
most of the early bitcoin adopters want the government to prosecute fraud and theft but not regulate finance beyond that
what?
is it you and these other morons believe govt likes to regulate finance in stupid ways just because it is a evil goon from a bad cartoon? "we like to abuse rights only because we have to fulfill the cartoon villain role in the minds of morons"
finance is regulated for many reasons. all of them in ways you want finance regulated! nobody regulates finance just because it's a simple minded villain in a bad hollywood movie. what is the *reason* for the existence of a regulation you dislike. then maybe you fucking need to adjust your dislike, because you clearly don't understand the reason
show me one form of financial regulation which is wrong, somehow. not an example of a regulator fucking up or committing crimes themselves that needs to be punished. "oh, the simple fact they can fuck means the regulation shouldn't exist"... yeah, like because there's bad cops we need to abolish all police. no downside there. how about we actually punish the bad cops and bad regulators? too complicated a concept for you?
give me an example of an actual regulation that is without good reason. at least to give me something to laugh at
i'll put some stock into these magic early adopters you refer to when you show me they understand actual fucking finance, which by your own words you obviously sorely lack an understanding of
you're a gullible airhead fool who doesn't even understand the fucking subject matter
when writing media was rare and expensive, it was common to remove the original text and write over the pages with new text. the original pages can be decades even centuries older than when they were used to write the quran on them
in fact, in the modern study of ancient texts, it is *common* to find another text hidden underneath, and to use various methods to reveal that second, or even third text, because of writing media reuse
wouldn't it be hilarious if further inspection reveal the original use for the pages of this quran was some ancient christian writings that contradict christian dogma?
also, the system itself will go bad. the system is composed of intrinsically weak human beings. only in the low iq fantasy life of conspiracy theorists with mental illness are human systems perfectly infallible. in reality they are full of holes and bad actors and weak points and fail many times on a daily basis, the larger the organization. that's why airtight conspiracies of more than a handful of people are impossible and why most conspiracy theories are jokes to anyone without mental disease and with a sufficient social intelligence
so under your alternate legal system, the system itself will commit the worst atrocities
but that's completely off topic. your comment has nothing to do with *technology*, only legal systems, society, and human organizations
this is technology being no protection from bad intent:
regulations, government, often screws up. and yet it is still far far better than no regulations and no government at all
when regulators are corrupt, malfeasance or ineptitude occur, etc.: you get rid of the bad apples. you cure the sick government
but what you never ever do, unless you are a complete moron, is get rid of regulations and government. because then whatever you complained about the government doing to you, is still going to happen to you. and now you have no recourse or way to fix the injustice at all
Oh, and if you believe "there isn't a technology made by man that cannot also be broken by another man", I'd like to introduce you to modern cryptography. Both your hypothetical men will be dead and dust long before a good cypher will ever be broken.
so, moron: technological progress is frozen in time to 2015?
there isn't a technology made by man that cannot also be broken by another man. meaning the technology is never, can never be, a "fix" for human nature. the only real fix to a bad intentioned human is a well-intentioned one. there is no technology that can safeguard against bad intent for you
but wild-eyed technophilia imagines that all the bad and failures of human nature can be overcome with a technological fix. so Mt Gox happens
there is nothing about bitcoin that magically fixes all of the problems with traditional money, even though those problems drive the gullible and naive to bitcoin. every evil you hate about traditional money, is true about bitcoin too. Mt. Gox teaches the most basic failure: simple theft. all of the other, more twisted schemes that have befallen traditional money in the past are still possible too with bitcoin. give it time and see!
the most hilarious part were all those demanding from the japanese government some accountability and protection from the events of Mt. Gox's demise
"If there were instances of mismanagement or fraud like this carried out by Mark Karpeles, then he should be held accountable," bitcoin investor Kim Nilsson said. "[But] if these charges against [him] don't adequately explain where all the bitcoin... money went, then there are still unresolved questions, quite possibly additional crimes and criminals, that must be investigated further."
"i hate government and regulation, let's use bitcoin!"
(the inevitable happens)
"waaaaaah, please government, help us invesitgate and enforce laws on bitcoin!"
fucking pathetic
they want to escape regulation, government. and then they want regulation, government after they find out what no accountability really means
morons: if people can do bad things to you, they will. only a system of regulation backed by a government can protect you from that. there is no technological fix for that. now: welcome to reality
that's just math
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
if C is ever going to have a chance in the USA the election rules need to change. if that doesn't happen, then we are stuck with A or B. C can never compete, just siphon votes from A or B and thereby ensuring the other letter wins. no horrible conspiracy. just basic mathematics
do you have anything to add to the topic or do want to just make believe you have some sort of authority here?
if you don't like my post, don't read it
ukraine replaced communism with kleptocracy and russian neoimperialism. the old want communism back. the young want actual capitalism and to move to european influence
yeah, because you are correct, those are different ideologies. you understand that, right?
of course asshole, it doesn't matter if a country is *nominally* anything. it matters what it *actually* is
you could have cut out all the meandering crap and just written that and actually had a good point. of course that's the fucking goal
did i say they were utopias?
with all of those problems they are still doing far far better than us on all important measures (health, income, happiness, etc.)
we must adopt the social safety nets of the nordic countries and revive our middle class
or continue on the path we are currently on and reap more poverty, more social unrest, just so a few billionaires can make a billion more because morons don't understand the simple basics about how economics works
when i describe a kind of facile simpleton who only understands low iq binary extremes, it helps not to enter the conversation embodying that exact socially retarded propaganda victim
you don't understand the topic. you're a dimwitted tool hand painting in kindergarten class. that is the level of your understanding of this topic you inject your ignorance into
educate yourself, then develop an actual valid opinion
good luck
all communist experiments failed, and all variations on communism will fail. the other causes of the failure of the various communist experiments you allude to contributed, yes, but in the end are not the sole reasons for the failure of communism. communism itself is flawed and incompatible with human nature and will never work
in the same sense that blind social darwinistic capitalism leads to the inevitable concentration of capital and power in the hands of the few, and everyone else dirt poor. that's the end game of unbridled capitalism. the middle class is continuing to die in the usa because too many idiots don't realize this
they will learn. either the easy way or the hard way. either the next communist country will be the usa after a revolution because of the gross inequality. or people will simply wake the fuck up, see what the nordic countries are doing, and copy them. or just canada for crying out loud. and adjust course and give us generous social safety nets: universal healthcare, high minimum wage, free daycare, generous maternity leave for fathers and mothers, free or low cost higher education, etc
and force plutocrats and corporations to pay their fucking fair tax share
then watch the middle class in the usa grow again
i see it as blowback from the cold war
communism is obviously an invalid evil system that did not work and never will
but unfortunately in the fight against it, these simpletons come out of the fight with this very kneejerk one dimensional view of the conflict, and a very kneejerk simplistic idea of what the conflict achieved, and what actually won. and then they want to go deeper in the other direction, when the simple truth is, that like many complex topics in this world, extremes suck and the middle ground is the best
why did communism even exist in the first place?
it was a reaction to plutocracy and social darwinism. you look at the abuses of 1800s and you can understand why there was even communist revolutions in the first place: people don't like being treated as slaves
but these idiots want to go back to the abuses of the gilded age, and forget the lessons of that, because they can only keep one lesson in their minds at a time
the real lesson is to not vacillate between capitalist greed establishing classism and plutocracy, and then the inevitable communist and populist revolts because of the growing inequality. followed by corruption, decay and oligarchs again
the idea is to pick a middle road of capitalist competition, and generous social safety nets. this maximizes stability, happiness, and riches
the middle road. far superior to the idiots and their extremes
and that's fine. because it sells tickets
i agree it ruins the spirit of star trek, but so what? all franchises die. look at the last 3 star wars movies
now movie 7 of star wars is being helmed by the same guy who watered down star trek. so it will be an equally disneyfied plastic semblance of what it once was. everyone is excited but look at what abrams pumps out and the writing is on the wall: safe, middle of the road
and? so what?
fanboys need to understand something: everything dies. everything is ruined and decays over time
you need to move on, find a new franchise. enjoy that while it blazes in its glory
because they all die
go buy the the original series and the next generation and watch them. enjoy them
that's all you get
be happy with that
i never understood this braindead attitude where the only systems in the world are social darwinistic capitalism, and communism
nothing in between
when of course there are thousands of systems in between. in fact the richest and happiest countries in the world, the nordic countries, pretty well balance social safety nets and capitalism. that's actually the ideal society
but if you view everything as capitalism and communism, nothing else, your ideology and philosophy is childish and facile. you haven't given an intellectually honest thought to the subject matter you inject your uneducated opinion into. you're a propaganda victim
this not a baseless insult
you present it as binary: capitalism or communism. when it obviously isn't binary. there are thousands of shades in between, in fact, the best system most definitely is not pure capitalism. objectively, as a function of the most successful societies today, and their economic and political systems
furthermore, the economic, political, social, and cultural systems of the federation are categorically, factually, not communist. define communism. then define the federation. and they do not match, they are far apart
but because it is not pure capitalism, you have to call it communism. because those are the only two extremes you understand. you're a simpleton, an ignorant on the topic
no Blade reference
i give it 6/10
look, if you want to act like wesley snipes and put your faith in some completely made up bullshit, have fun. but stop trying to sell insane here, nobody is buying it
i am no friend of the idea of intellectual property, but it doesn't help to be delusional about how law works
and yet here you are, arguing with me
unconfirmed anecdote by random asshole with questionable opinion is worth exactly what you think it is worth
anyways, i'm glad you enjoyed somalia
what makes you think that there would be no incentive to confirm a blockchain in a system besides bitcoin?
the reward can be almost anything, of which plenty of people would partake, depending upon this alternative blockchain application
what?
is it you and these other morons believe govt likes to regulate finance in stupid ways just because it is a evil goon from a bad cartoon? "we like to abuse rights only because we have to fulfill the cartoon villain role in the minds of morons"
finance is regulated for many reasons. all of them in ways you want finance regulated! nobody regulates finance just because it's a simple minded villain in a bad hollywood movie. what is the *reason* for the existence of a regulation you dislike. then maybe you fucking need to adjust your dislike, because you clearly don't understand the reason
show me one form of financial regulation which is wrong, somehow. not an example of a regulator fucking up or committing crimes themselves that needs to be punished. "oh, the simple fact they can fuck means the regulation shouldn't exist"... yeah, like because there's bad cops we need to abolish all police. no downside there. how about we actually punish the bad cops and bad regulators? too complicated a concept for you?
give me an example of an actual regulation that is without good reason. at least to give me something to laugh at
i'll put some stock into these magic early adopters you refer to when you show me they understand actual fucking finance, which by your own words you obviously sorely lack an understanding of
you're a gullible airhead fool who doesn't even understand the fucking subject matter
thank you, found the one non-idiot in this thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
when writing media was rare and expensive, it was common to remove the original text and write over the pages with new text. the original pages can be decades even centuries older than when they were used to write the quran on them
in fact, in the modern study of ancient texts, it is *common* to find another text hidden underneath, and to use various methods to reveal that second, or even third text, because of writing media reuse
wouldn't it be hilarious if further inspection reveal the original use for the pages of this quran was some ancient christian writings that contradict christian dogma?
LOL. hard religious trolling
the weaknesses of bitcoin inform us about the weaknesses of blockchains in general
welcome to reality kid:
https://xkcd.com/538/
keep shooting the messenger!
also, the system itself will go bad. the system is composed of intrinsically weak human beings. only in the low iq fantasy life of conspiracy theorists with mental illness are human systems perfectly infallible. in reality they are full of holes and bad actors and weak points and fail many times on a daily basis, the larger the organization. that's why airtight conspiracies of more than a handful of people are impossible and why most conspiracy theories are jokes to anyone without mental disease and with a sufficient social intelligence
so under your alternate legal system, the system itself will commit the worst atrocities
but that's completely off topic. your comment has nothing to do with *technology*, only legal systems, society, and human organizations
this is technology being no protection from bad intent:
https://xkcd.com/538/
you're right, my answer isn't a real answer
the real answer to the problem, how to get around any encryption in the world, now and forever, is this:
https://xkcd.com/538/
same with mt gox: all the fancy blockchain technology doesn't mean shit when you hand the keys to a thief
so, like i said: technology is no protection from bad intent, and never will be. you can only fight bad human nature with good human nature
the facts of life. now shoot the messenger or admit the reality you live in
this is called shooting the messenger
here is the basics of life kid:
regulations, government, often screws up. and yet it is still far far better than no regulations and no government at all
when regulators are corrupt, malfeasance or ineptitude occur, etc.: you get rid of the bad apples. you cure the sick government
but what you never ever do, unless you are a complete moron, is get rid of regulations and government. because then whatever you complained about the government doing to you, is still going to happen to you. and now you have no recourse or way to fix the injustice at all
so, moron: technological progress is frozen in time to 2015?
the weaknesses and failures of bitcoin tell us about the potential weaknesses and failures of blockchains in general
yup
furthermore:
there isn't a technology made by man that cannot also be broken by another man. meaning the technology is never, can never be, a "fix" for human nature. the only real fix to a bad intentioned human is a well-intentioned one. there is no technology that can safeguard against bad intent for you
but wild-eyed technophilia imagines that all the bad and failures of human nature can be overcome with a technological fix. so Mt Gox happens
there is nothing about bitcoin that magically fixes all of the problems with traditional money, even though those problems drive the gullible and naive to bitcoin. every evil you hate about traditional money, is true about bitcoin too. Mt. Gox teaches the most basic failure: simple theft. all of the other, more twisted schemes that have befallen traditional money in the past are still possible too with bitcoin. give it time and see!
the most hilarious part were all those demanding from the japanese government some accountability and protection from the events of Mt. Gox's demise
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/...
"i hate government and regulation, let's use bitcoin!"
(the inevitable happens)
"waaaaaah, please government, help us invesitgate and enforce laws on bitcoin!"
fucking pathetic
they want to escape regulation, government. and then they want regulation, government after they find out what no accountability really means
morons: if people can do bad things to you, they will. only a system of regulation backed by a government can protect you from that. there is no technological fix for that. now: welcome to reality
you should read what someone writes
then form a response
rather than regurgitating canned crap that has nothing to do with what someone said
if you just want to have arguments with boogeymen that only exist in your head, you don't even need the internet for that