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More Popcorn Time Users Sued
An anonymous reader writes: The torrent-based video streaming software Popcorn Time has been in the news lately as multiple entities have initiated legal action over its use. Now, 16 Oregon-based Comcast subscribers have been targeted for their torrenting of the movie Survivor. The attorney who filed the lawsuit (PDF) says his client, Survivor Productions Inc., doesn't plan to seek any more than the minimum $750 fine, and that their goal is to "deter infringement." The lawsuit against these Popcorn Time users was accompanied by 12 other lawsuits targeting individuals who acquired copies of the movie using more typical torrenting practices.
It's good that they're actually going after the infringes not the company this time.
but will, eventually.
Hold the fucking phone. They're seeking damages that won't financially ruin entire families, and whose effects won't be felt generations down the line?
What the fuck?
Then they should leave Popcorn Time users alone. That app does more to deter infringement than anyone.
I paid a fee to a cable company which gives me the right to watch any movie they are currently playing.
It should not matter where I get it from.
The goal is to deter infringement
and avoid judicial scrutiny. The RIAA for example has long had an infringement website where you can "pay" your "settlement" should you receive one and dont wish to be burdened by your constitutional right to a trial by jury for what --unless all those DVD warnings are wrong-- is a federal felony.
the problem is if this becomes a federal trial, media companies and their attorneys have to do things like disclose evidence. depending on the nature, and how far down the rabbit hole defense wants to go, media companies understand they can eventually begin to risk the legality or constitutionality of the DMCA itself. They can call severe attention to the disparaging, clandestine, and overzealous nature of copyright itself and in turn through a simple federal case could open the door to the possibility of copyright reform. In some cases, like the well published instances where media companies file lawsuits totalling in the millions against child plaintiffs or single mothers, the damages can be knocked down to a fraction of what it costs them to prosecute something like this or worse, thrown out entirely.
Good people go to bed earlier.
How are they finding these people? The article doesn't really say.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Torrented it from KAT. Godfuckingawful "film". It's like Salt without any of that film's superior aspects. Immediately deleted it. To think people are being sued for $750 for a film that isn't worth what Wal-Mart would charge for it from their discount bin is shocking, and more evidence that the law in the US is easily perverted for profit.
... to understand:
Pirating is illegal.
We're not taking questions from the audience, because that's all we're going to say about that.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
all they need to do is prove that the subscriber was the downloader and not a guest
Use a VPN, there's even one built in. Just need to sign up.
Trolling is a art,
750$, that's reasonable, the damages could be lower depending on the amount of movies streamed. At least people are getting more sensible. Yep, if you speed you could get a ticket.
I have no idea what Survivor is, and while I have no interest in finding out, there will be some who will BECAUSE of this.
I have held off on using it because I don't fully trust the vpn solutions out there. If I sign up for VPN service and use it while using popcorn time, am I really protected(not legally, i know..but will I really be untrackable by the companies?)
This case illustrates precisely the danger of using tools that you don't understand. I wonder how many of these users even knew that the BitTorrent protocol was being used behind the scenes to "magically" stream their movies over the "Interwebs". Well, they're about to receive an education on the price of ignorance and I doubt that it will be blissful.
Looky here all you filesharing lusers... you're morons. You keep on torrenting your shit over clearnet and then complain when the MAFIAA hunts you down and shuts you off and takes all your money.
Newsflash.... become anonymous and take all their money...
The solution to the copyright/patent mess is to keep on sharing
till their business model is completely destroyed.
Start by ripping and sharing all the physical media you own.
And do it over anonymous overlay networks such as I2P and Phantom.
That way you can share 24x7x365 without fear of the MAFIAA.
No one needs to feed the machine (with at least $9.50 to the machine and
$0.50 to the artist) and you can Bitcoin your money straight to the
artists that make a difference in your life.
The only thing these labels and distribution companies exist to do
is to tax both you and the artist and to payoff politicians.
SCREW THAT.
Crush these useless "intellectual property" companies once and for all.
Share and share at will my brothers!
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Quality is paramount, bandwidth and storage are cheap, therefore...
CD and DVD *must* be shared losslessly, as FLAC files and VOB dirs only.
BluRay *may* be shrunk to DVD-9 ISO file / VOB dir format before sharing.
Don't waste people's time and quality by jerking them around with
arbitrary format choices on your end, give them lossless and let
them choose to downconvert on their own as they wish.
Copyright laws are the only things preventing someone from immediately printing & selling (or giving away) their own 10 million copies of Harry Potter. You wouldn't allow that so why do you think it's okay just because it's music or movies and done on the internet.
Sure, you can get away with it...but at some point, for most people, life becomes more about right & wrong than what you can get away with.
Or better yet, go to the library, check out a good book, and read it.
look, if you want to act like wesley snipes and put your faith in some completely made up bullshit, have fun. but stop trying to sell insane here, nobody is buying it
It's Mr Wesley Snipes, and the guy is too badass to put faith in anything but his skydiving skills. He's so dangerous they had to unfreeze Cobra Stallone to stop him from killing the guy who produced Don't Fear The Reaper, and on his way to save the UN by winning a street basketball game he even stopped to jam with the boys at the jazz club. He's a true Renaissance man, he's up there with Steven Seagal (the blues singer sharpshooter cop who broke James Bond's wrist just for kicks).
lucm, indeed.
I always figure that if I get fined I'll preemptively pay for the next offense and then use their cashing of the check to be an agreement that I can pirate at will until they catch me again and, at that point, I've already paid for it. I can almost guarantee that they'll cash that check... Try as I might, nobody has sent me even a single letter.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Everyone comes in these threads trying to justify piracy with some sort of legal/ethical spin. Let's just call it like we see it. Piracy is easy, low risk and near free. It's also a near-victimless crime. The only victim is a media conglomerate that hauled in more money than they know what do do with. In fact, in 2015, 21st Century Fox had a larger revenue in 3 months than my entire Canadian province did in a year. It's hard to be sympathetic when they bitch and complain about what amounts to pennies for them.
Support the indies.
I get the error:
http://ppa.launchpad.net/webup... 404 Not Found
Is there a new address to use ?
I think we all agree that attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them should be prosecuted.
Please don't confound copyright infringement with piracy.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Piracy
I thought the courts already ruled that an IP Address cannot be used it identify a person... http://techland.time.com/2012/...
The film and television industry is failing even these buzzwords.
forward-going directionalized mission to be competitive
A mission that the industry is failing.
You can't "be competitive" with piracy if you refuse to make lawful versions of works available. I understand some of the rationale behind the Disney sales moratorium cycle, but where's the authentic DVD of Song of the South?
pledge to demarginalize those on the periphery of the broad customer base
A pledge that the industry is failing.
"Those on the periphery of the broad customer base" demand genuine copies of more obscure TV series like Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea. Yet these copies were never made available to the public.
that we feel is essential to the revenue stream
A revenue stream that the industry is leaving on the table.
I recognize that some titles, such as Pinocchio and the Emperor of the Night, don't have quite enough quantity demanded to justify a full scale production run and retail promotion campaign. But they could still be made available as burn-on-demand DVDs sold directly from the studio's web site.
In that case, you leave me with no choice but to have the last word.
Watch foreign films, B Rated movies, Documentaries, PBS, twitch, etc.
Most of these Hollywood movies aren't worth watching, even if it's FREE.
* Save your pocket change & save your brain.
If you really want to trash your brain with these Hollywood movies then use something like vpn. tor, etc.
Never fucking ever. I *tried* playing by their rules once. Turns out, I was not allowed to use the tv-out on my graphics card, to view the dvd I *bought*, on my tv. you can see horror movie http://bit.ly/1EoywpE