if its own editors don't even read it. because just scanning the headlines for one minute a day and having a barely workable human memory would send off dupe alarm bells
so taco: please tell us what website you are reading so we can stop reading here and go there instead, since you obviously don't consider slashdot worth your time. you obviously think slashdot is beneath your interest level
its insulting to slashdot's readers, and it just leaves you with the feeling that if the powers that be around here don't even care enough to read their own site, so why am i reading this site? its a major turn off
how long has the dupe problem dragged on?
what exactly is your fucking problem that you can't scan the headlines of your own fucking website for one minute a day?
compare to falklands (3,000 people) or lichtenstein (35,000)
estonia is over a million
the point is,somewhere between 100,000 and 1 million people and up, you are talking about a coherent internet policy and a system of accountability involving many people
but somewhere between 100,000 and 10,000 people and down, and you're talking about "uh, call bubba, he runs that stuff"
so i consider estonia's internet freedom reputation useful and valid, but not liechtenstein's
the size of the country also has some consideration
sweden and uk are of course sizable countries, but falklands? lichtenstein? really? don't you see how including tiny countries weaken your argument? the usa might have a multivolume policy on internet rights and thousands working in the field. while the falkland island has the harbor master's teenage son running the entire country's internet, and the internet policy is whomever he disconnects for whatever reason
so where's pitcairn island and aaland island? pffffffft
why are you arguing with me? apparently freedom house considers the usa to have a better ranking of freedom than those countries. you could question their methods, but more probably, you just seem well prepared with a list of american crimes, an awareness only of the usa. i wonder how much googling it would take me to find some dirt on all those supposedly squeaky clean countries you mention?
nice choice of countries though. i don't have a problem with any of those countries. i do however have a problem with china and iran and cuba, and i see people play the same game you just did, but involving those countries instead. that leaves me exasperated. you, you don't bother me, as you obviously go through some contortions to try make some sort of point with your choice of countries. weak
it's a RELATIVE ranking. meaning the USA can do all sorts of horrible things, but if most everyone else is doing worse, the USA will rank high on a scale of freedom
it always amazes me that country xyz can do truly horrible evil things, but the USA does bad thing RELATIVELY MINOR IN COMPARISON, or did something evil decades ago... and so there's no reason to criticize country xyz. really? that's your judgment at work?
yes, the ICE seizures are bad. do you really want to compare that with the kind of things with internet freedom iran or china does? compare and contrast: do you have this cognitive ability many kindergarteners can grasp?
it's a strange, crippling obsession that renders many peoples principles null and void, because their obsession with the usa eclipses their principles when it comes to how they render their judgments. and no, you don't get to pass judgment only on the usa, because you are an american. why? because the issues we are talking about are global issues, not national ones. limiting your criticism only to your home country is a rather weird set of blinders when the topic at hand only has meaning on an international scale of comparison. you can't criticize the government of tehran or beijing? why not? because you can't do anything about it but you can do something about the usa? ok, then if you have proactively limited your judgment to only domestic matters, stop talking about international matters. don't compare the usa to other countries, at all, ever, according to your own precepts: " i don't live in that country, so i can't do anything about it." it's not logically coherent: "i can only criticize the usa. so on international topic xyz, the usa..." wait, you've just scoped your judgment internationally, so you've just contradicted yourself. either the topic is international, and every country is fair game, or the topic is domestic, and no international perspectives count. you can't have it both ways and still be logical
the usa does plenty wrong in this world, don't get me wrong. but that some other countries do far, far worse seems to completely escape many people's ability to pass sound judgments about the state of the world. and don't even get me started at those who have to find a creative way to explain why when country xyz does something evil, the usa is to blame, somehow
finally, i understand a rant about the usa under an australian topic sounds hypocritical. so let me say: you can swap out the word "american" or "usa" in this entire post, and substitute any other nationality, such as "australian" and "australia", and the comment has not lost any logical coherence. its about people who have a strange inability to understand the international scope of topics like this one, and are strangely preoccupied with only one country or the other, and their judgments and principles are therefore warped
on an international topic, all countries are fair game for criticism, or you have a bias that means your criticism is useless
the government represents my interests, it represents the law
DUH!
who the FUCK has the authority to break up monopolies and oligopolies in your low iq fantasy life? the free market fairy? seriously, WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO KEEP ABUSERS IN LINE IF NOT THE GOVERNMENT YOU RETARD?
you have no answer to this. to you, YOUR OWN FUCKING GOVERNMENT is worse than obvious greedy bastards who will rob you blind. how the FUCK do you wind up at this fucktard conclusion?!
seriously, you fucking tea party morons will not be happy until the usa is like somalia or haiti. THAT'S the real life version of your utopia of weak and no government. don't worry about it twatstain, i love my country, and i will not let you tea party morons destroy it, because you're too fucking retarded to UNDERSTAND THE FUCKING OBVIOUS
so irrational and idiotic is your quasi-religious devotion to the idea that YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT is the root of all problems, and not simple human greed in an unregulated marketplace. no regulation? weak government? entities will happily abuse you with no oversight, as billions of lessons in history can show you
why the FUCK can you not see this, you fucking retard?
this country is full of this sort of cult of free market fundamentalism right now. the simple truth is you need to police markets to keep them fair and safe. for you to ask for proof of this is to ask for proof of water being wet or night being dark
you really need that level of intellectual charity and hand holding? look, i'm not your dad, its not my job to explain the really obvious to you patiently and gracefully. and frankly, i'm really angry at this horde of free market fundamentalist nonsense that is going to hurt this country economically. this sort of fantastical magical thinking. an almost religious faith in the markets just fixing themselves, by themselves. its utter nonsense! and so many fools believe it
where does this anti-intelligence come from? wishful thinking? lack of education?
you tell me, because you are apparently among the strident free market fundamentalists: why do you believe a market that is not policed won't be abused? what makes you think that won't happen? what bizarre wishful thinking in contrast to all of your better faculties is that? how much proof of simple human nature, that you probably understand in terms enforcement and regulation in regards to shoplifting, or speeding, or cheating in high school exams... and yet, in the same mind, when it comes to behavior in the marketplace, the very same mind can't see the very same fucking behavior won't obviously happen
what exactly do you need from me for you to understand the fucking obvious? and break out of your almost religious zeal for the impossible? why do you believe people will behave in a way no group of human beings have ever behaved, in any time period, in any culture? when did this impossible assumption about human nature enter your mind and become a basis for a theory about the marketplace? do you consider yourself an intelligent person? you really need this sort of hand holding? you really can't play it out in your mind yourself?
1. it is a NATURAL tendency for players in a marketplace to differ in size. yes or no? 2. it is a NATURAL tendency for larger players in a marketplace to grow even larger out of simple natural benefits of size. yes or no?
therefore, without any regulatory counterweight, ALL completely "free" markets eventually drift to oligopolies or monopolies, and stay that way, in which the smaller players are just ripped off
how can you NOT possibly understand this or not see this inevitability???
how can you possibly consider yourself an intelligent person commenting on marketplaces and present yourself with complete mystification of the fucking obvious about human behavior???
i swear, the tea party is going to turn the USA into a third world country. so many completely fucking morons like you, with this bizarre religious zeal in the idea that markets without regulation are somehow more free or more fair. it really gets me so angry. people like you are the doom of the usa, and as someone who loves my home country, ti greatly saddens me, to see this horde of fucking retards running roughshod with your gleeful, willful know nothing ignorance of really simple basic economic behavior and history
yes you are a moron, with no understanding of economic history, and how the largest players abuse the smaller players, in every market that isn't regulate
free and fair requires police work, or the big guys abuse the little guys. get it, moron?
stop delivering opinions you cooked up in your armchair with little understanding of actual repeatable economic history
which is building an OS, and a built a browser, just to further entrench their real business, search. think about that: for google, the OS and browser is an afterthought for the real party. and investment in these areas for googe are just permanent expenses, no deriving of revenue directly. google went into these products fully knowing that, because the point is just to undermine the competition
therefore, it is entirely in microsoft's interest to let XP live as long as possible, even as a revenue loser, just to keep those boxen out of the clutches of non-microsoft OS products. and microsoft will continue to support XP as long as it is a significant part of the living machines out there, simply because they may wish XP to die in their hearts, but the alternative is even worse, and anyone with the most rudimentary business sense at microsoft will realize this as the deadline nears
it is entirely possible to have an opinion very different than mine and be more intelligent than me. it is also possible to have an opinion very different than mine because one is a complete moron
in this SPECIFIC thread, the reason the person i am responding to thinks a market without regulations is superior is because that person is a moron. not an empty insult. an objective evaluation of their intellect based on what they have written
this person could be a genius at chess. this person could be a genius at three variable calculus. but on the issue of markets, this person is clearly a grade AAA certified moron
spider silk is also stronger than steel. meaning what? give us the actual conditions under which the statement is rendered, and stop pushing the science lite for idiots
yes, you must actively work hard at enforcement with strong regulations to keep the market free and fair
the day you realize that is the day you reach intellectual maturity
if you never agree to that, you're just another among millions of morons, who speak freely and judgmentally on subject matters they don't even understand
the market, any market, will always consist of overreaching greed followed by overreaching fear. a marketplace is composed of human beings, so these emotions will always be present. the market is not composed of coldly logical players, and never will be. the trick is to minimize the extremes, so that the undulations are ripples rather than tsunamis. you do that by regulating the market well, strong government oversight, enforcement. unfortunately, free market fundamentalist morons believe the market functions best without all the expensive pesky rules slowing everyone down and costing so much. they've been arguing their case for a long time: the latest in crash in 2008 followed a long series of deregulation efforts that started way back under reagan that accelerated under clinton and went nihilistic under gwbush:
a free market DEPENDS upon strong regulation, to reign in the extremes that bother you. the market, indeed, will always go "wrong" in the direction of gluttony, or panic. the trick is to reign in those tendencies, so they don't shatter the whole market
Slashdot Mirror
mod parent up
definitive
or 8.8.8.8?
or 88.8.88.8?
etc.
you could sell any one of those addresses in china or taiwan for millions each
no, no, no...
buDUMP *ching*
he cried as he dragged the heavy weight behind him
at a computer
but you do in the lab
the data isn't even written to sectors marked empty, the data is written to empty air!
http://blog.jitbit.com/2011/04/chinese-magic-drive.html
if its own editors don't even read it. because just scanning the headlines for one minute a day and having a barely workable human memory would send off dupe alarm bells
so taco: please tell us what website you are reading so we can stop reading here and go there instead, since you obviously don't consider slashdot worth your time. you obviously think slashdot is beneath your interest level
its insulting to slashdot's readers, and it just leaves you with the feeling that if the powers that be around here don't even care enough to read their own site, so why am i reading this site? its a major turn off
how long has the dupe problem dragged on?
what exactly is your fucking problem that you can't scan the headlines of your own fucking website for one minute a day?
bug people don't play baseball
someone marketed HD sunglasses around 2003:
http://consumerist.com/2009/09/hd-sunglasses-use-the-power-of-stupidity-to-increase-real-world-resolution.html
because, you know, we only saw the world in NTSC before HD, our European friends saw the world in PAL
so i'm just waiting for 3D sunglasses. because, you know, until "Avatar", the real world was 2D
compare to falklands (3,000 people) or lichtenstein (35,000)
estonia is over a million
the point is,somewhere between 100,000 and 1 million people and up, you are talking about a coherent internet policy and a system of accountability involving many people
but somewhere between 100,000 and 10,000 people and down, and you're talking about "uh, call bubba, he runs that stuff"
so i consider estonia's internet freedom reputation useful and valid, but not liechtenstein's
the size of the country also has some consideration
sweden and uk are of course sizable countries, but falklands? lichtenstein? really? don't you see how including tiny countries weaken your argument? the usa might have a multivolume policy on internet rights and thousands working in the field. while the falkland island has the harbor master's teenage son running the entire country's internet, and the internet policy is whomever he disconnects for whatever reason
so where's pitcairn island and aaland island? pffffffft
why are you arguing with me? apparently freedom house considers the usa to have a better ranking of freedom than those countries. you could question their methods, but more probably, you just seem well prepared with a list of american crimes, an awareness only of the usa. i wonder how much googling it would take me to find some dirt on all those supposedly squeaky clean countries you mention?
nice choice of countries though. i don't have a problem with any of those countries. i do however have a problem with china and iran and cuba, and i see people play the same game you just did, but involving those countries instead. that leaves me exasperated. you, you don't bother me, as you obviously go through some contortions to try make some sort of point with your choice of countries. weak
yes, with the ICE domain seizures considered
it's a RELATIVE ranking. meaning the USA can do all sorts of horrible things, but if most everyone else is doing worse, the USA will rank high on a scale of freedom
it always amazes me that country xyz can do truly horrible evil things, but the USA does bad thing RELATIVELY MINOR IN COMPARISON, or did something evil decades ago... and so there's no reason to criticize country xyz. really? that's your judgment at work?
yes, the ICE seizures are bad. do you really want to compare that with the kind of things with internet freedom iran or china does? compare and contrast: do you have this cognitive ability many kindergarteners can grasp?
it's a strange, crippling obsession that renders many peoples principles null and void, because their obsession with the usa eclipses their principles when it comes to how they render their judgments. and no, you don't get to pass judgment only on the usa, because you are an american. why? because the issues we are talking about are global issues, not national ones. limiting your criticism only to your home country is a rather weird set of blinders when the topic at hand only has meaning on an international scale of comparison. you can't criticize the government of tehran or beijing? why not? because you can't do anything about it but you can do something about the usa? ok, then if you have proactively limited your judgment to only domestic matters, stop talking about international matters. don't compare the usa to other countries, at all, ever, according to your own precepts: " i don't live in that country, so i can't do anything about it." it's not logically coherent: "i can only criticize the usa. so on international topic xyz, the usa..." wait, you've just scoped your judgment internationally, so you've just contradicted yourself. either the topic is international, and every country is fair game, or the topic is domestic, and no international perspectives count. you can't have it both ways and still be logical
the usa does plenty wrong in this world, don't get me wrong. but that some other countries do far, far worse seems to completely escape many people's ability to pass sound judgments about the state of the world. and don't even get me started at those who have to find a creative way to explain why when country xyz does something evil, the usa is to blame, somehow
finally, i understand a rant about the usa under an australian topic sounds hypocritical. so let me say: you can swap out the word "american" or "usa" in this entire post, and substitute any other nationality, such as "australian" and "australia", and the comment has not lost any logical coherence. its about people who have a strange inability to understand the international scope of topics like this one, and are strangely preoccupied with only one country or the other, and their judgments and principles are therefore warped
on an international topic, all countries are fair game for criticism, or you have a bias that means your criticism is useless
(mouth hanging open)
the government represents my interests, it represents the law
DUH!
who the FUCK has the authority to break up monopolies and oligopolies in your low iq fantasy life? the free market fairy? seriously, WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO KEEP ABUSERS IN LINE IF NOT THE GOVERNMENT YOU RETARD?
you have no answer to this. to you, YOUR OWN FUCKING GOVERNMENT is worse than obvious greedy bastards who will rob you blind. how the FUCK do you wind up at this fucktard conclusion?!
seriously, you fucking tea party morons will not be happy until the usa is like somalia or haiti. THAT'S the real life version of your utopia of weak and no government. don't worry about it twatstain, i love my country, and i will not let you tea party morons destroy it, because you're too fucking retarded to UNDERSTAND THE FUCKING OBVIOUS
so irrational and idiotic is your quasi-religious devotion to the idea that YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT is the root of all problems, and not simple human greed in an unregulated marketplace. no regulation? weak government? entities will happily abuse you with no oversight, as billions of lessons in history can show you
why the FUCK can you not see this, you fucking retard?
this country is full of this sort of cult of free market fundamentalism right now. the simple truth is you need to police markets to keep them fair and safe. for you to ask for proof of this is to ask for proof of water being wet or night being dark
you really need that level of intellectual charity and hand holding? look, i'm not your dad, its not my job to explain the really obvious to you patiently and gracefully. and frankly, i'm really angry at this horde of free market fundamentalist nonsense that is going to hurt this country economically. this sort of fantastical magical thinking. an almost religious faith in the markets just fixing themselves, by themselves. its utter nonsense! and so many fools believe it
where does this anti-intelligence come from? wishful thinking? lack of education?
you tell me, because you are apparently among the strident free market fundamentalists: why do you believe a market that is not policed won't be abused? what makes you think that won't happen? what bizarre wishful thinking in contrast to all of your better faculties is that? how much proof of simple human nature, that you probably understand in terms enforcement and regulation in regards to shoplifting, or speeding, or cheating in high school exams... and yet, in the same mind, when it comes to behavior in the marketplace, the very same mind can't see the very same fucking behavior won't obviously happen
what exactly do you need from me for you to understand the fucking obvious? and break out of your almost religious zeal for the impossible? why do you believe people will behave in a way no group of human beings have ever behaved, in any time period, in any culture? when did this impossible assumption about human nature enter your mind and become a basis for a theory about the marketplace? do you consider yourself an intelligent person? you really need this sort of hand holding? you really can't play it out in your mind yourself?
1. it is a NATURAL tendency for players in a marketplace to differ in size. yes or no?
2. it is a NATURAL tendency for larger players in a marketplace to grow even larger out of simple natural benefits of size. yes or no?
therefore, without any regulatory counterweight, ALL completely "free" markets eventually drift to oligopolies or monopolies, and stay that way, in which the smaller players are just ripped off
how can you NOT possibly understand this or not see this inevitability???
how can you possibly consider yourself an intelligent person commenting on marketplaces and present yourself with complete mystification of the fucking obvious about human behavior???
i swear, the tea party is going to turn the USA into a third world country. so many completely fucking morons like you, with this bizarre religious zeal in the idea that markets without regulation are somehow more free or more fair. it really gets me so angry. people like you are the doom of the usa, and as someone who loves my home country, ti greatly saddens me, to see this horde of fucking retards running roughshod with your gleeful, willful know nothing ignorance of really simple basic economic behavior and history
yes you are a moron, with no understanding of economic history, and how the largest players abuse the smaller players, in every market that isn't regulate
free and fair requires police work, or the big guys abuse the little guys. get it, moron?
stop delivering opinions you cooked up in your armchair with little understanding of actual repeatable economic history
which is building an OS, and a built a browser, just to further entrench their real business, search. think about that: for google, the OS and browser is an afterthought for the real party. and investment in these areas for googe are just permanent expenses, no deriving of revenue directly. google went into these products fully knowing that, because the point is just to undermine the competition
therefore, it is entirely in microsoft's interest to let XP live as long as possible, even as a revenue loser, just to keep those boxen out of the clutches of non-microsoft OS products. and microsoft will continue to support XP as long as it is a significant part of the living machines out there, simply because they may wish XP to die in their hearts, but the alternative is even worse, and anyone with the most rudimentary business sense at microsoft will realize this as the deadline nears
it is entirely possible to have an opinion very different than mine and be more intelligent than me. it is also possible to have an opinion very different than mine because one is a complete moron
in this SPECIFIC thread, the reason the person i am responding to thinks a market without regulations is superior is because that person is a moron. not an empty insult. an objective evaluation of their intellect based on what they have written
this person could be a genius at chess. this person could be a genius at three variable calculus. but on the issue of markets, this person is clearly a grade AAA certified moron
a market without regulations is abused by its largest players at the expense of the smaller via rent seeking arrangements
citation: all of human economic history
anything other intellectual charity i can help you out with today moron?
has no meaning
spider silk is also stronger than steel. meaning what? give us the actual conditions under which the statement is rendered, and stop pushing the science lite for idiots
yes, you must actively work hard at enforcement with strong regulations to keep the market free and fair
the day you realize that is the day you reach intellectual maturity
if you never agree to that, you're just another among millions of morons, who speak freely and judgmentally on subject matters they don't even understand
the market, any market, will always consist of overreaching greed followed by overreaching fear. a marketplace is composed of human beings, so these emotions will always be present. the market is not composed of coldly logical players, and never will be. the trick is to minimize the extremes, so that the undulations are ripples rather than tsunamis. you do that by regulating the market well, strong government oversight, enforcement. unfortunately, free market fundamentalist morons believe the market functions best without all the expensive pesky rules slowing everyone down and costing so much. they've been arguing their case for a long time: the latest in crash in 2008 followed a long series of deregulation efforts that started way back under reagan that accelerated under clinton and went nihilistic under gwbush:
http://theparagraph.com/2009/06/bush-ii-slowed-sec-during-financial-fraud-fury/
a free market DEPENDS upon strong regulation, to reign in the extremes that bother you. the market, indeed, will always go "wrong" in the direction of gluttony, or panic. the trick is to reign in those tendencies, so they don't shatter the whole market
after the social web stock market crash of 2012, aka, the twitpocalypse/ the facebpalm:
"Google, Microsoft announce record layoffs"
http://www.ciachef.edu/admissions/newyork/