the foreign geniuses we speak of come to the usa exactly because of the failed politics of their home countries. the foreign geniuses we speak of would be the first to tell you that, in the name of bettering their own people, the theocrats in tehran, technocrats in beijing, and neoczars in moscow, etc, need to be persecuted
you need to understand that persecuting a government is not persecuting a people.you can condemn iran, ie, the government in tehran, without condemning the iranian people. in fact, you can condemn the iranian government in the name of the iranian people. in fact, many iranian people do condemn their own government for the same reasons the west does
you are falling for some lame propaganda when you confuse the governments of nondemocratic countries with the identity of the people they lord over. you need to keep the identities separate. yes, sometimes it can get confusing. tyrants, in fact, depend upon the fact it can get confusing
The real solution is not to let these "foreign geniuses" come to our universities in the first place.
really? what do you say to this profound ignorance. you're just so fucking ignorant, there's really nothing else to say to you
i have a counter proposal for you: can we export ignorant americans? pick any country you want. as an american who loves this country and wants it to succeed: just shut up or leave, please. because your thinking, your words, people who think like you: they hurt the american economy. your ideology is the path to poverty. you're just too stupid to know it
foreign geniuses come to study here, our colleges are well-respected, and are interested in setting up shops after college that could employ 100-300 americans in 5-10 years. but because of rabid anti-immigrant american hysteria, they are deluged with harrowing residency/ citizenship requirements that are intended to turn away seasonal farm workers, and are forced to go home, where those companies of the future grow instead
frankly, protectionism is moronic. even when packaged in the stilted round about way this stupid story packages it
go ahead and man the borders and prevent the poor immigrants if it makes you happy. but if you force the geniuses to go home after studying college in the usa, you are throwing away hundreds of thousands of jobs in the companies of the future
we are a nation of immigrants. we always have been, unless you are native american. so enough with the protectionist stupidity. no matter how lamely you package the failed ideology, its still a failed way of thinking that ultimately only hurts the usa
is hobbled by this pesky thing called democracy, human rights, a free press. it interferes with profits
china is autocracy combined with capitalism. it is the gilded age of victorian times in the west when workers rights were nonexistent, squared. china is a giant capitalist machine that treats its citizens as robots without rights. why the chinese people accept this is beyond my understanding, but for now, they do
chinese people: your government does not respect you. you do not have a voice in the composition of your own government. you are a slave. in the name of respecting you as my fellow human beings, i disrespect the policies of your government. rise up and reject their illegitimate claims to rule you without your input
i will fully respect a china that is democratic. until then, your country is doomed, because it is unstable. no government that does not subject itself to the will of its people via a regular vote ever lasts very long. only democracy manufactures legitimacy, and therefore stability. all other forms of government crumble and fall, until after any number of revolutions, the people finally adopt democracy, and are able to keep it
of course, this was more of an issue when we were using 386s and 28.8kbps modems, so its more of a historical reason than a present-day reason
although, modern AJAX sites require low latency for a good user experience. HTTPS introduces latency. so there's a new technological issue why HTTPS all of the time won't necessarily take hold
mobile sites and smart phones, which are pretty much the future of the web, and which are growing in leaps and bounds in terms of bandwidth and processor power, are still subject to slow connection/ battery taxing considerations of having HTTPS on all of the time that desktops aren't subject to
but, back to desktop, here's a corollary question: why isn't everyone on ipv6? all sorts of new abilities come into possibility and all sorts of problems are solved with such a huge address space
but here's the rub: all of the benefits are modest enough that it doesn't necessarily outweigh all of the costs involved in making the transition. and the same answer applies to using HTTPS all of the time
1. pure science for the sake of pure science always eventually winds up making incredible discoveries that alter history and result in trillions of dollars of economic activity. that's why worrying about "no practical reason" is silly: it just means the person raising the issue doesn't understand science or history
2. mining hydrocarbons on titan, and taking them somewhere else: anywhere, even just another moon of saturn, is completely ridiculous. its like flying from LA to Hong Kong to get your lunch time sandwich. you need an oxidizer too
1994, almost a million civilians butchered, and the UN just stood by and wrote angry letters! useless, in the face of great evil
if qaddafi retakes the entire country, you tell me, in honesty and intelligence, what a man of qaddafi's nature is going to do to those who defied him
you tell the world how to respond, if not with war, then with what, so we do not see another rwanda. i like to wake up in the morning thinking i'm a good person. i can't do that if i witnessed a murder, or a rape, and did nothing to prevent it or call the police. the same with the world, or anyone else with a human conscience, aware of what is going in libya right now
do you consider yourself a person with a conscience? i really wonder. about people who are so averse to war they will not even engage in it to prevent genocides
taking a human life is a very bad thing. taking a human life that is about to take the lives of many innocents is an unfortunate, but necessary thing
those whose only opinion on war is "never" must be people with very little understanding of reality or human nature. of course war is necessary some times: wake the fuck up. and of course it is unfortunate, at all times. please grow up. if you continue to think war is always something that can be avoided, you're just foolish about human nature and the reality of the world you live in. get out of your damn ivory tower of ignorance and try to understand reality, or please stop making pronouncements from on yonder tower, sealed off from reality, as if an opinion formed in a vacuum apart from the reality of humanity is supposed to mean anything. your empty headed platitudes about war are useless
and of course, people will hear the words i just wrote, and accuse me of being a warmonger. *sigh* completely deaf, completely dumb
it makes no logical sense,but yes, through all time periods, and all cultures, gold and silver has had value. no intrinsic logical value: food or reproduction, but some sort of unerring psychological magnetism. even in isolated communities: the mayans and aztecs for instance. so you can't blame it on say, the ancient egyptians or chinese choosing the convention and establishing it culturally. it seems to be an innate biological draw. and yet it makes zero sense, logically, in terms of survival advantage
that is, psychologically, as human beings, we just like shiny pieces of metal for some reason. at least we aren't alone: birds famously like shiny things too, and will line their nests with tinsel and colorful string. show a shiny metal to a parrot or a magpie, it will be intrigued. other animals do this as well. in fact, the more intelligent ones to a greater degree, seemingly
is it just intellectual curiosity? our financial system has to be based on objects or substances we find intellectually curious? should we have money backed by tesseracts and klein bottles? or do topological shapes not count, only substances? i don't get it
so what, exactly, is it about shiny metals that intrigues us, and animals? how does that make evolutionary sense?
oops... i forgot the top level subject matter for a moment. clearly, god intended it! lol we need gold and silver backed currency because it is god's will! lol
the idea that currency isn't backed by gold or silver, that its just a flimsy convention. that everyone agrees on it as a tool for trade
ok, well what intrinsic value is there in gold or silver? it's uh, pretty to look at. can you eat it? well, it's really shiny. that's nice
basically, god and silver, intrinsically, have no real value either. its just a flimsy convention to use as a medium for trade. its a house of cards argument
back the us dollar with heads of cattle, or rows of corn. or women! food or reproductive capacity. NOW you are talking about a currency that is backed with something that has genuine intrinsic value
a texas law saying atheists must be allowed to serve as deacons in the southern baptist church, and room must be made for them to take the podium on sunday and preach atheism, in church
that's pretty much the same thing as saying creationists, by law, have to be respected in academia
we'd be looking at a world today where haiti stretched up to the virginia state border, in terms of economic and social progress, but north of that, we'd have a richer, more socially progressive, happier country
canada, oh canada: would you like to take a poor abused new york state in under your wing? we are held back socially and economically by a heavy southern weight. how about new york and new england for alberta? fair trade?
simply statistically speaking, for the possibly mortal, probably life shortening sacrifices these nuclear workers are making, less people will die of cancer in the coming decades. i'm on the east coast of the usa, so it is highly unlikely to be me they are saving, but if you could somehow draw up a list of dots of future cancer sufferers due to this accident, those dots would be concentrated in japan, but there would be a smattering of dots elsewhere on the globe as well
the real lesson here is that revolution, in any country, depends upon food
the sad truth is you can pretty much abuse a populace for decades, and they won't revolt. but as soon as they can't eat, people start fighting. that was true of the french revolution as well
it also is a lesson for all the idiots in the usa thinking revolution is an option. americans are fat and well fed. they won't revolt about anything, no matter how abusive
another thing to note: food prices are continuing to lurch upwards around the world. we are going to see more revolutions, more unrest. even in democracies
people will put up with a lot of things. but when they can't feed their children, when their stomachs are empty, they start behaving in really desperate ways. and unfortunately, we have been living, and growing, as a population, worldwide, for far too long on cheap easy oil. take a look at how oil is used in the production of fertilizer sometime, and think about what happens when that fertilizer can't be made, as the era of cheap easy oil comes to an end
lots of revolutions and unrest facing us globally in the coming months. china, india, brazil, etc: not poor places anymore, oil use skyrockets. and the stuff just gets harder to dig up/ process. meaning we are talking about pinches in poor parts of the world between burgeoning populations and the cost of food. people living barely on the edge of putting food in their stomachs on meager incomes. a place like the philippines is way overpopulated: it imports tons of rice from thailand. bangladesh, nigeria, etc.: wherever you have poverty and huge populations, we are looking at civil strife on a huge order in coming months as food prices soar
of course, people have been warning about this for decades. but we are finally hitting a wall between population growth and the cost of food. and its going to get ugly. people need to learn to have less kids. unfortunately, for many people, that lesson has to be learned the hard way
maybe those mayans were right about 2012 after all
i'm just waiting for dutch know how to engulf the entire north sea into one giant polder
the other thing about the dutch eating seabeds and turning it into farmland: what about all the salt? how do you desalinate seabed? i never figured that out
look: i'm honestly impressed. it seems a little suicidal as a national pasttime: waging protracted technological war on the natural coastline, but you've been doing it for a long time, so i am adequately impressed, technologically, nonetheless
All I know is, the Netherlands better not have a tsunami. Not exactly a tsunami prone part of the world, but considering Japan and your Port Royal example, the Netherlands would become the Nomorelands
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here, ignorant 13 year old, educate yourself:
sergey brin employs how many americans? (russian immigrant who founded google, for the ignorant, like you)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin
jerry yang employs how many americans? (taiwanese immigrant who founded yahoo, for the ignorant, like you)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Yang_(entrepreneur)
pierre omidyar employs how many americans? (iranian born in france who founded ebay, for the ignorant, like you)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Omidyar
etc., etc.
those are just off the top of my head
educate yourself, then open your ignorant mouth. the world is full of enough morons as it is
the foreign geniuses we speak of come to the usa exactly because of the failed politics of their home countries. the foreign geniuses we speak of would be the first to tell you that, in the name of bettering their own people, the theocrats in tehran, technocrats in beijing, and neoczars in moscow, etc, need to be persecuted
you need to understand that persecuting a government is not persecuting a people.you can condemn iran, ie, the government in tehran, without condemning the iranian people. in fact, you can condemn the iranian government in the name of the iranian people. in fact, many iranian people do condemn their own government for the same reasons the west does
you are falling for some lame propaganda when you confuse the governments of nondemocratic countries with the identity of the people they lord over. you need to keep the identities separate. yes, sometimes it can get confusing. tyrants, in fact, depend upon the fact it can get confusing
yes
sergey brin employs no americans (russian immigrant who founded google, for the ignorant, like you)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin
jerry yang employs no americans (taiwanese immigrant who founded yahoo, for the ignorant, like you)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Yang_(entrepreneur)
pierre omidyar employs no americans (iranian born in france who founded ebay, for the ignorant, like you)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Omidyar
etc., etc.
those are just off the top of my head
really? what do you say to this profound ignorance. you're just so fucking ignorant, there's really nothing else to say to you
i have a counter proposal for you: can we export ignorant americans? pick any country you want. as an american who loves this country and wants it to succeed: just shut up or leave, please. because your thinking, your words, people who think like you: they hurt the american economy. your ideology is the path to poverty. you're just too stupid to know it
foreign geniuses come to study here, our colleges are well-respected, and are interested in setting up shops after college that could employ 100-300 americans in 5-10 years. but because of rabid anti-immigrant american hysteria, they are deluged with harrowing residency/ citizenship requirements that are intended to turn away seasonal farm workers, and are forced to go home, where those companies of the future grow instead
frankly, protectionism is moronic. even when packaged in the stilted round about way this stupid story packages it
go ahead and man the borders and prevent the poor immigrants if it makes you happy. but if you force the geniuses to go home after studying college in the usa, you are throwing away hundreds of thousands of jobs in the companies of the future
we are a nation of immigrants. we always have been, unless you are native american. so enough with the protectionist stupidity. no matter how lamely you package the failed ideology, its still a failed way of thinking that ultimately only hurts the usa
is hobbled by this pesky thing called democracy, human rights, a free press. it interferes with profits
china is autocracy combined with capitalism. it is the gilded age of victorian times in the west when workers rights were nonexistent, squared. china is a giant capitalist machine that treats its citizens as robots without rights. why the chinese people accept this is beyond my understanding, but for now, they do
chinese people: your government does not respect you. you do not have a voice in the composition of your own government. you are a slave. in the name of respecting you as my fellow human beings, i disrespect the policies of your government. rise up and reject their illegitimate claims to rule you without your input
i will fully respect a china that is democratic. until then, your country is doomed, because it is unstable. no government that does not subject itself to the will of its people via a regular vote ever lasts very long. only democracy manufactures legitimacy, and therefore stability. all other forms of government crumble and fall, until after any number of revolutions, the people finally adopt democracy, and are able to keep it
of course, this was more of an issue when we were using 386s and 28.8kbps modems, so its more of a historical reason than a present-day reason
although, modern AJAX sites require low latency for a good user experience. HTTPS introduces latency. so there's a new technological issue why HTTPS all of the time won't necessarily take hold
mobile sites and smart phones, which are pretty much the future of the web, and which are growing in leaps and bounds in terms of bandwidth and processor power, are still subject to slow connection/ battery taxing considerations of having HTTPS on all of the time that desktops aren't subject to
but, back to desktop, here's a corollary question: why isn't everyone on ipv6? all sorts of new abilities come into possibility and all sorts of problems are solved with such a huge address space
but here's the rub: all of the benefits are modest enough that it doesn't necessarily outweigh all of the costs involved in making the transition. and the same answer applies to using HTTPS all of the time
2 things:
1. pure science for the sake of pure science always eventually winds up making incredible discoveries that alter history and result in trillions of dollars of economic activity. that's why worrying about "no practical reason" is silly: it just means the person raising the issue doesn't understand science or history
2. mining hydrocarbons on titan, and taking them somewhere else: anywhere, even just another moon of saturn, is completely ridiculous. its like flying from LA to Hong Kong to get your lunch time sandwich. you need an oxidizer too
1994, almost a million civilians butchered, and the UN just stood by and wrote angry letters! useless, in the face of great evil
if qaddafi retakes the entire country, you tell me, in honesty and intelligence, what a man of qaddafi's nature is going to do to those who defied him
you tell the world how to respond, if not with war, then with what, so we do not see another rwanda. i like to wake up in the morning thinking i'm a good person. i can't do that if i witnessed a murder, or a rape, and did nothing to prevent it or call the police. the same with the world, or anyone else with a human conscience, aware of what is going in libya right now
do you consider yourself a person with a conscience? i really wonder. about people who are so averse to war they will not even engage in it to prevent genocides
taking a human life is a very bad thing. taking a human life that is about to take the lives of many innocents is an unfortunate, but necessary thing
those whose only opinion on war is "never" must be people with very little understanding of reality or human nature. of course war is necessary some times: wake the fuck up. and of course it is unfortunate, at all times. please grow up. if you continue to think war is always something that can be avoided, you're just foolish about human nature and the reality of the world you live in. get out of your damn ivory tower of ignorance and try to understand reality, or please stop making pronouncements from on yonder tower, sealed off from reality, as if an opinion formed in a vacuum apart from the reality of humanity is supposed to mean anything. your empty headed platitudes about war are useless
and of course, people will hear the words i just wrote, and accuse me of being a warmonger. *sigh* completely deaf, completely dumb
isn't it amazing how selective nobility is to you
it's 1.21 jigawatts
that is, i agree with you 100% on your point:
it makes no logical sense,but yes, through all time periods, and all cultures, gold and silver has had value. no intrinsic logical value: food or reproduction, but some sort of unerring psychological magnetism. even in isolated communities: the mayans and aztecs for instance. so you can't blame it on say, the ancient egyptians or chinese choosing the convention and establishing it culturally. it seems to be an innate biological draw. and yet it makes zero sense, logically, in terms of survival advantage
that is, psychologically, as human beings, we just like shiny pieces of metal for some reason. at least we aren't alone: birds famously like shiny things too, and will line their nests with tinsel and colorful string. show a shiny metal to a parrot or a magpie, it will be intrigued. other animals do this as well. in fact, the more intelligent ones to a greater degree, seemingly
is it just intellectual curiosity? our financial system has to be based on objects or substances we find intellectually curious? should we have money backed by tesseracts and klein bottles? or do topological shapes not count, only substances? i don't get it
so what, exactly, is it about shiny metals that intrigues us, and animals? how does that make evolutionary sense?
oops... i forgot the top level subject matter for a moment. clearly, god intended it! lol we need gold and silver backed currency because it is god's will! lol
freudian slip, considering the discussion here ;-)
that never made any sense to me
the idea that currency isn't backed by gold or silver, that its just a flimsy convention. that everyone agrees on it as a tool for trade
ok, well what intrinsic value is there in gold or silver? it's uh, pretty to look at. can you eat it? well, it's really shiny. that's nice
basically, god and silver, intrinsically, have no real value either. its just a flimsy convention to use as a medium for trade. its a house of cards argument
back the us dollar with heads of cattle, or rows of corn. or women! food or reproductive capacity. NOW you are talking about a currency that is backed with something that has genuine intrinsic value
or, to extend your line of reasoning
a texas law saying atheists must be allowed to serve as deacons in the southern baptist church, and room must be made for them to take the podium on sunday and preach atheism, in church
that's pretty much the same thing as saying creationists, by law, have to be respected in academia
right
because no one on the right paints everyone on the left as if they had the same beliefs as the most loony tunes lefty idiot
and there's no corporate propaganda faux news channel employing demagogues whose entire career is pretty much exactly that
can we get the queen of ANOTHER COUNTRY off your money? i mean that's just retarded
i wish the south had won
we'd be looking at a world today where haiti stretched up to the virginia state border, in terms of economic and social progress, but north of that, we'd have a richer, more socially progressive, happier country
canada, oh canada: would you like to take a poor abused new york state in under your wing? we are held back socially and economically by a heavy southern weight. how about new york and new england for alberta? fair trade?
simply statistically speaking, for the possibly mortal, probably life shortening sacrifices these nuclear workers are making, less people will die of cancer in the coming decades. i'm on the east coast of the usa, so it is highly unlikely to be me they are saving, but if you could somehow draw up a list of dots of future cancer sufferers due to this accident, those dots would be concentrated in japan, but there would be a smattering of dots elsewhere on the globe as well
the real lesson here is that revolution, in any country, depends upon food
the sad truth is you can pretty much abuse a populace for decades, and they won't revolt. but as soon as they can't eat, people start fighting. that was true of the french revolution as well
it also is a lesson for all the idiots in the usa thinking revolution is an option. americans are fat and well fed. they won't revolt about anything, no matter how abusive
another thing to note: food prices are continuing to lurch upwards around the world. we are going to see more revolutions, more unrest. even in democracies
people will put up with a lot of things. but when they can't feed their children, when their stomachs are empty, they start behaving in really desperate ways. and unfortunately, we have been living, and growing, as a population, worldwide, for far too long on cheap easy oil. take a look at how oil is used in the production of fertilizer sometime, and think about what happens when that fertilizer can't be made, as the era of cheap easy oil comes to an end
lots of revolutions and unrest facing us globally in the coming months. china, india, brazil, etc: not poor places anymore, oil use skyrockets. and the stuff just gets harder to dig up/ process. meaning we are talking about pinches in poor parts of the world between burgeoning populations and the cost of food. people living barely on the edge of putting food in their stomachs on meager incomes. a place like the philippines is way overpopulated: it imports tons of rice from thailand. bangladesh, nigeria, etc.: wherever you have poverty and huge populations, we are looking at civil strife on a huge order in coming months as food prices soar
of course, people have been warning about this for decades. but we are finally hitting a wall between population growth and the cost of food. and its going to get ugly. people need to learn to have less kids. unfortunately, for many people, that lesson has to be learned the hard way
maybe those mayans were right about 2012 after all
i'm just waiting for dutch know how to engulf the entire north sea into one giant polder
the other thing about the dutch eating seabeds and turning it into farmland: what about all the salt? how do you desalinate seabed? i never figured that out
look: i'm honestly impressed. it seems a little suicidal as a national pasttime: waging protracted technological war on the natural coastline, but you've been doing it for a long time, so i am adequately impressed, technologically, nonetheless
All I know is, the Netherlands better not have a tsunami. Not exactly a tsunami prone part of the world, but considering Japan and your Port Royal example, the Netherlands would become the Nomorelands
i don't want to see a terminator with the power of 1.2 jigawatts of plutonium from libyan terrorists, driving a delorean
but a better choice than canadian bacon
canadian bacon is an abhorrence before god, a betrayal of all that is good in bacon land
planet of the apes V alice in wonderland. if only because tim burton could cook it up by just splicing together some old footage
and finally, lest we forget the classics:
bambi v godzilla
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambi_Meets_Godzilla
only because everything really is better with bacon