why the fuck do you not think the SAME abuses don't go in under corporatocracy? (i didn't say capitalism, i said corporatocracy: monopolies and oligopolies are MORE of an enemy of capitalism than socialism is, read your gilded age economic history)
so i'll tell you what: i admit to every single criticism of socialism you have listed
then i will say that the corporatocracy you live under, that you blindly defend or ignorantly refuse to see that you are defending, commits the same abuses AND MORE. your money goes to the pocket of some guy in a corporate office, unjustified, untraceable, and wasted, rather than a government coffer, which at least is supposed to be for your benefit and be can be tracked and recovered
will buy the right to kick down your door if the government is not going to do that job. the government does that when there are criminals involved. when they fuck up, and do it by mistake, there are valid recourses the victims of that abuse can take. those recourses only exist in a state with a working valid strong central government
in an environment where the government is not powerful, meanwhile, there is nothing to stop corporations from kicking down your door and pointing guns at you. you honestly think they won't? how fuckign clueless are you?
pinkertons is what happens when the government is weak and the corporations are strong. thousands of our great and great great grandfathers fought in this country for strong governmental curbs on corporate abuses of power in the gilded age. length of workday? minimum wage? you think these laws are abusive? do you want to know the kind of abuse that wnet on before those laws existed?
you are simply an ignorant, ignorant of your own country's history and the kind of abuse corporations got away with when the government wouldn't police them
fact, solid fucking fact: if the government is weak, then there exists a power vacuum. that vacuum will be filled by corporations, the mafia, religous nuts, whatever, you name it. ALL OF WHOM ARE WORSE ABUSERS THAN YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT. you really believe otherwise?
you WANT a powerful central government to protect your rights. why the fuck you believe a weak government somehow works out for your freedom is some sort of massive state of propaganda on your part and true ignorance and true stupidity
the job is therefore not to fight the government, the only tool on your side, but to remove the corporate infection of your tool that doesn't make it work as well as it should for you
get it yet genius?
or is the idea to remove the only goddamn tool you have to fight the power of corporations?
you really believe corporations, shackled even less weakly by government than they already are, in part because of fools who trust government less than corporations, would do anything except get away with as much abuse as they can in the name of profit?
do you honestly trust a corporation, beholden to shareholders only, more than your own government, beholden officially to you?
yes, corporations have corrupted government away fro, the purpose of serving you. and you think this is somehow an argument against government rather than corporations? how the fuck does that work in your mind?
the lower half of the iq curve that are apparently easily manipulated by radio demagogues and television propaganda outlets in the employ of corporations trying to avoid taxes and regulations, to agitate against their own self-interest
look behind the fucking curtain, you fucking slaves
the government is not an alien entity come here to turn you into a duracell battery or a food source for their eggs
your government is A REPRESENTATION OF YOUR WILL
read the FIRST FUCKING SENTENCE:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
WE THE PEOPLE
get it you paranoid schizophrenic?
corporations, meanwhile, genuinely do not have your interests in line with them at all, and they are actively corrupting your government and lying to you about YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT because they want MORE PROFIT and LESS REGULATION and LESS TAXES (taxes that pay for your services, like roads, braodband, and yes YOUR HEALTHCARE, moron)
and you would rather believe the propaganda outlets and the demogogues in their employ, actively convincing you to disbelieve the ONLY ENTITY WHICH CAN PROTECT YOU (which is YOUR GOVERNMENT, moron: YOUR. GOVERNMENT.)
in the united states, you have people who will vociferously fight even legislation that is good for them and increases their rights, like common sense healthcare reform, because they would rather believe demagogues on the radio and propaganda outlets on the television that report "the news"
behind these demagogues and propaganda outlets are big business concerns, who have realized they can pay to have opinion swayed in their direction by demonizing brain dead obvious common good legislation that costs corporations money. they have convinced the idiots to fight for the reduction of their own rights. they call legislation in the name of the common good "socialism," "liberalism," or any number of demonized words whom those who oppose "socialism" or "liberalism" don't even really understand
all they know is "socialism is a bad word." well, what does socialism mean? "its means bad stuff." could you define it ideologically please? "it's anti-american." would you like to know the 19th century american history of labor rights- "shut up you communist fascist terrorist"
this is what intelligent americans are up against: corporations whipping up the low end of the iq curve into a rabid hysteria
americans: go to europe. ask a european about socialism. you will find out the word is boring and just common sense. europeans have a much higher standard of living then you, dear propagandized low iq americans. they also have much higher taxes... but they DON'T PAY FOR SERVICES YOU PAY A LOT MORE FOR
truth, idiots: you're still taxed, whether for health care or oil or broadband, but by corporate boardrooms instead of uncle sam, and you are taxed a heck of a lot more! idiots: you are being manipulated by trolls in the employ of big business to think things against your own self-interest, and you are too stupid to see it. wake the fuck up
rest of the world: i apologize that the american experiment in democracy has been warped by corporate influence. there are still americans who recognize the threat and would like nothing more than to remove that corporate financial influence from our democracy. unfortunately, it is very difficult to fight billions of dollars in lobbyists and media buys. but we're trying. wish us luck. if we fail, then the usa becomes nothing more than a slave state to corporate interests, and any slave who dare suggests big business should pay more for the care of their slaves is "unamerican." unbelievable
if (god forbid) san francisco has a major quake in the recent future, some religious conservative asshole will proclaim it is god's punishment for growing weed
this is why you have to have a zero tolerance policy for cheating in college and high school
because if you let people cut and paste their term papers and google answers during multiple choice tests, you breed idiots like this fraudster
you create a whole class of people who believe the way to a better life is to fake everything
of course it always goes on: fake resumes, lies during first dates, etc. but when the stink rises to this kind of problem solving philosophy: "the challenge is not how to answer this question but how to fake a good answer" then you have created monsters, who, even if they are successful at their tricks, wind up not even knowing who the hell they are themselves
eventually, you become fake to even yourself. a truly and horribly empty shell of a person
but they are all esoteric and boutique. for the problem of most cases of surplus energy, hydrogen is very low on your list of good solutions
my problem, and perhaps i'm guilty of hijacking the conversation with a side concern, is that too many people think of hydrogen as a valid solution in too many green energy schemes. when the truth is that hydrogen has serious use case scenario weaknesses, in terms of thermodynamics of creation/ combustion, the majority of the time. plus its just a real pain in the ass to handle safely and easily
hydrogen should not be taken seriously as an energy storage medium, that's my point, sorry if i'm hijacking the conversation
if a farmer has to grind a stump and another guy has to use a snow shovel, i really don't see the problem with locking explosives from the general public. if stumps and snow removal is the best argument you can offer for keeping explosives easy to access, then i'm sorry, explosives should be illegal, because those arguments are miniscule
and jackboots you say? we're talking about EXPLOSIVES. not dirty pictures on the internet or political dissent. you simply don't fucking need explosives in ordinary civilian life. if this inconveniences a few rednecks in the woods who want to blow dem stuff up real goodie like, who fucking cares, inconvenience the fucking rednecks. its not the march of jackboots. really. find a more convincing argument
it wastes too much energy in electrolysis and then burning. plus its a nightmare to store and handle. there's far more efficient energy storage mediums that are far easier to manage
i wish people would just forget about hydrogen, but it seems to have entered the public conscience and will be a long time in banishing from consideration. hydrogen is not a serious green energy contender, and never will be
its too wasteful to convert to, and then convert back from, and too messy to handle. please understand these simple obvious facts that make hydrogen a complete waste of your time
there already exist pages that will not load the genuine content until the page actually responds with verification that the ad content has loaded in the browser
the ad content will say send a code via ajax back to the server: "i'm now alive in the browser, showing dancing mortgage seekers... ok send the article"
if enough people block ads, this will be the norm
i'm annoyed by intrusive ads and interstitials and articles broken out over 15 pages like everyone else, but the publisher needs to make cash to keep publishing the content you want, and they will feel the pressure to escalate the arms race. hopefully they will understand their ads shouldn't be too intrusive, but its been my experience that sites where the ads are too intrusive are sites without any content worth my time anyways
you don't really have to block ads, you just have to find quality sites
if you have to go out of your way to announce how tough you are to complete strangers, you're obviously not very tough at all, and probably far weaker than the weak people you make fun of
genuine toughness is not boastful, and is not disdainful of the weak
the truly weak person has to go out of their way to make a drama about how tough they are, because they are so insecure, because they actually are quite weak
only shows that you are out of touch with reality, and that you have some serious problems
"People are generally raised to believe that people are good, that there are norms of behavior, there is justice in the world, authority figures can be trusted, things happen for reason and are overseen by an omnipotent deity. As we grow up, we learn that these are simply convenient lies that define our society."
reality is that most people really are good, there really are norms of behavior, and there is a genuine concerted effort to promote justice in the world (the trustworthy authority and the god part: yeah, you're right, those are lies)
point is, there are some really screwed up people in this world: for example, that chinese chick who put a kitten under her high heels and maciated it to death on camera. it is the genuine truth that most people would never do this. i'm not asking for your comment about how under force, most people would do this: of course, under force, anyone would do this, but this woman chose do it of her own volition. she's screwed up, she's outside the norm, she's rare and demented
so the really fucked up things you see on the internet is not some sort of baseline of the genuine reality as you suggest, and is not the truth of human behavior. it is the work of some really, really fucked up depraved people
litigating laws that should not exist in the first place
a kind parasitism, that we are all paying for
legal cruft, created by lawyers, in the service of paying lawyers and keeping them busy, but adding nothing whatsoever to society or the common good, serving to do nothing but waste other people's money and time and keep a bunch of pointless people buried under paperwork
what do these people create?
i'd like one of these lawyers in cases as pathetic and pointless as this to actually try to defend their useless existence
how can they wake up in the morning and not put a shotgun in their mouths, so utterly without any redeeming quality is their useless existence?
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list every single criticism of socialism above
why the fuck do you not think the SAME abuses don't go in under corporatocracy? (i didn't say capitalism, i said corporatocracy: monopolies and oligopolies are MORE of an enemy of capitalism than socialism is, read your gilded age economic history)
so i'll tell you what: i admit to every single criticism of socialism you have listed
then i will say that the corporatocracy you live under, that you blindly defend or ignorantly refuse to see that you are defending, commits the same abuses AND MORE. your money goes to the pocket of some guy in a corporate office, unjustified, untraceable, and wasted, rather than a government coffer, which at least is supposed to be for your benefit and be can be tracked and recovered
wake up fool!
will buy the right to kick down your door if the government is not going to do that job. the government does that when there are criminals involved. when they fuck up, and do it by mistake, there are valid recourses the victims of that abuse can take. those recourses only exist in a state with a working valid strong central government
in an environment where the government is not powerful, meanwhile, there is nothing to stop corporations from kicking down your door and pointing guns at you. you honestly think they won't? how fuckign clueless are you?
you need an education
start here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinkerton_National_Detective_Agency
pinkertons is what happens when the government is weak and the corporations are strong. thousands of our great and great great grandfathers fought in this country for strong governmental curbs on corporate abuses of power in the gilded age. length of workday? minimum wage? you think these laws are abusive? do you want to know the kind of abuse that wnet on before those laws existed?
you are simply an ignorant, ignorant of your own country's history and the kind of abuse corporations got away with when the government wouldn't police them
fact, solid fucking fact: if the government is weak, then there exists a power vacuum. that vacuum will be filled by corporations, the mafia, religous nuts, whatever, you name it. ALL OF WHOM ARE WORSE ABUSERS THAN YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT. you really believe otherwise?
you WANT a powerful central government to protect your rights. why the fuck you believe a weak government somehow works out for your freedom is some sort of massive state of propaganda on your part and true ignorance and true stupidity
to work against you
the job is therefore not to fight the government, the only tool on your side, but to remove the corporate infection of your tool that doesn't make it work as well as it should for you
get it yet genius?
or is the idea to remove the only goddamn tool you have to fight the power of corporations?
you really believe corporations, shackled even less weakly by government than they already are, in part because of fools who trust government less than corporations, would do anything except get away with as much abuse as they can in the name of profit?
do you honestly trust a corporation, beholden to shareholders only, more than your own government, beholden officially to you?
yes, corporations have corrupted government away fro, the purpose of serving you. and you think this is somehow an argument against government rather than corporations? how the fuck does that work in your mind?
now that i've equalized you're knee jerk partisan trigger points, are you with me on the rest of my words?
or is it that you say its ok that you are a manipulated fool... because democrats are manipulated too
seriously? that's your weak ass fucking argument?
i'm condescending to 150M:
the lower half of the iq curve that are apparently easily manipulated by radio demagogues and television propaganda outlets in the employ of corporations trying to avoid taxes and regulations, to agitate against their own self-interest
look behind the fucking curtain, you fucking slaves
the government is not an alien entity come here to turn you into a duracell battery or a food source for their eggs
your government is A REPRESENTATION OF YOUR WILL
read the FIRST FUCKING SENTENCE:
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
WE THE PEOPLE
get it you paranoid schizophrenic?
corporations, meanwhile, genuinely do not have your interests in line with them at all, and they are actively corrupting your government and lying to you about YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT because they want MORE PROFIT and LESS REGULATION and LESS TAXES (taxes that pay for your services, like roads, braodband, and yes YOUR HEALTHCARE, moron)
and you would rather believe the propaganda outlets and the demogogues in their employ, actively convincing you to disbelieve the ONLY ENTITY WHICH CAN PROTECT YOU (which is YOUR GOVERNMENT, moron: YOUR. GOVERNMENT.)
in the united states, you have people who will vociferously fight even legislation that is good for them and increases their rights, like common sense healthcare reform, because they would rather believe demagogues on the radio and propaganda outlets on the television that report "the news"
behind these demagogues and propaganda outlets are big business concerns, who have realized they can pay to have opinion swayed in their direction by demonizing brain dead obvious common good legislation that costs corporations money. they have convinced the idiots to fight for the reduction of their own rights. they call legislation in the name of the common good "socialism," "liberalism," or any number of demonized words whom those who oppose "socialism" or "liberalism" don't even really understand
all they know is "socialism is a bad word." well, what does socialism mean? "its means bad stuff." could you define it ideologically please? "it's anti-american." would you like to know the 19th century american history of labor rights- "shut up you communist fascist terrorist"
this is what intelligent americans are up against: corporations whipping up the low end of the iq curve into a rabid hysteria
americans: go to europe. ask a european about socialism. you will find out the word is boring and just common sense. europeans have a much higher standard of living then you, dear propagandized low iq americans. they also have much higher taxes... but they DON'T PAY FOR SERVICES YOU PAY A LOT MORE FOR
truth, idiots: you're still taxed, whether for health care or oil or broadband, but by corporate boardrooms instead of uncle sam, and you are taxed a heck of a lot more! idiots: you are being manipulated by trolls in the employ of big business to think things against your own self-interest, and you are too stupid to see it. wake the fuck up
rest of the world: i apologize that the american experiment in democracy has been warped by corporate influence. there are still americans who recognize the threat and would like nothing more than to remove that corporate financial influence from our democracy. unfortunately, it is very difficult to fight billions of dollars in lobbyists and media buys. but we're trying. wish us luck. if we fail, then the usa becomes nothing more than a slave state to corporate interests, and any slave who dare suggests big business should pay more for the care of their slaves is "unamerican." unbelievable
however, nothing happens without it
money is absolutely evil, and unfortunately, completely necessary, in this world
learn to harness money and not be corrupted by it. but not agreeing to or understanding how money works only leaves you ideologically useless
if (god forbid) san francisco has a major quake in the recent future, some religious conservative asshole will proclaim it is god's punishment for growing weed
mark my words
this is why you have to have a zero tolerance policy for cheating in college and high school
because if you let people cut and paste their term papers and google answers during multiple choice tests, you breed idiots like this fraudster
you create a whole class of people who believe the way to a better life is to fake everything
of course it always goes on: fake resumes, lies during first dates, etc. but when the stink rises to this kind of problem solving philosophy: "the challenge is not how to answer this question but how to fake a good answer" then you have created monsters, who, even if they are successful at their tricks, wind up not even knowing who the hell they are themselves
eventually, you become fake to even yourself. a truly and horribly empty shell of a person
i'll check it out
but they are all esoteric and boutique. for the problem of most cases of surplus energy, hydrogen is very low on your list of good solutions
my problem, and perhaps i'm guilty of hijacking the conversation with a side concern, is that too many people think of hydrogen as a valid solution in too many green energy schemes. when the truth is that hydrogen has serious use case scenario weaknesses, in terms of thermodynamics of creation/ combustion, the majority of the time. plus its just a real pain in the ass to handle safely and easily
hydrogen should not be taken seriously as an energy storage medium, that's my point, sorry if i'm hijacking the conversation
for thinking that the surplus energy should be stored as efficiently and as easily manageable as possible
(rolls eyes)
if a farmer has to grind a stump and another guy has to use a snow shovel, i really don't see the problem with locking explosives from the general public. if stumps and snow removal is the best argument you can offer for keeping explosives easy to access, then i'm sorry, explosives should be illegal, because those arguments are miniscule
and jackboots you say? we're talking about EXPLOSIVES. not dirty pictures on the internet or political dissent. you simply don't fucking need explosives in ordinary civilian life. if this inconveniences a few rednecks in the woods who want to blow dem stuff up real goodie like, who fucking cares, inconvenience the fucking rednecks. its not the march of jackboots. really. find a more convincing argument
talk about hyperbole and hysteria
people please stop talking about hydrogen
it wastes too much energy in electrolysis and then burning. plus its a nightmare to store and handle. there's far more efficient energy storage mediums that are far easier to manage
i wish people would just forget about hydrogen, but it seems to have entered the public conscience and will be a long time in banishing from consideration. hydrogen is not a serious green energy contender, and never will be
its too wasteful to convert to, and then convert back from, and too messy to handle. please understand these simple obvious facts that make hydrogen a complete waste of your time
so smart, but unable to do anything to do anything about it because they're stuck there with their fingers in a dyke
there already exist pages that will not load the genuine content until the page actually responds with verification that the ad content has loaded in the browser
the ad content will say send a code via ajax back to the server: "i'm now alive in the browser, showing dancing mortgage seekers... ok send the article"
if enough people block ads, this will be the norm
i'm annoyed by intrusive ads and interstitials and articles broken out over 15 pages like everyone else, but the publisher needs to make cash to keep publishing the content you want, and they will feel the pressure to escalate the arms race. hopefully they will understand their ads shouldn't be too intrusive, but its been my experience that sites where the ads are too intrusive are sites without any content worth my time anyways
you don't really have to block ads, you just have to find quality sites
if you have to go out of your way to announce how tough you are to complete strangers, you're obviously not very tough at all, and probably far weaker than the weak people you make fun of
genuine toughness is not boastful, and is not disdainful of the weak
the truly weak person has to go out of their way to make a drama about how tough they are, because they are so insecure, because they actually are quite weak
only shows that you are out of touch with reality, and that you have some serious problems
"People are generally raised to believe that people are good, that there are norms of behavior, there is justice in the world, authority figures can be trusted, things happen for reason and are overseen by an omnipotent deity. As we grow up, we learn that these are simply convenient lies that define our society."
reality is that most people really are good, there really are norms of behavior, and there is a genuine concerted effort to promote justice in the world (the trustworthy authority and the god part: yeah, you're right, those are lies)
point is, there are some really screwed up people in this world: for example, that chinese chick who put a kitten under her high heels and maciated it to death on camera. it is the genuine truth that most people would never do this. i'm not asking for your comment about how under force, most people would do this: of course, under force, anyone would do this, but this woman chose do it of her own volition. she's screwed up, she's outside the norm, she's rare and demented
so the really fucked up things you see on the internet is not some sort of baseline of the genuine reality as you suggest, and is not the truth of human behavior. it is the work of some really, really fucked up depraved people
most people are good and decent, really
i was preparing to apologize for a lack of clarity in the summary, but, on further review, sorry, it really is just you
litigating laws that should not exist in the first place
a kind parasitism, that we are all paying for
legal cruft, created by lawyers, in the service of paying lawyers and keeping them busy, but adding nothing whatsoever to society or the common good, serving to do nothing but waste other people's money and time and keep a bunch of pointless people buried under paperwork
what do these people create?
i'd like one of these lawyers in cases as pathetic and pointless as this to actually try to defend their useless existence
how can they wake up in the morning and not put a shotgun in their mouths, so utterly without any redeeming quality is their useless existence?
Solo: This is no cave.
For most Americans, the day after 9/11 they found Iraq.
is about psychology and sociology, not climatology
the power of denial
i heartily agree with your better statement of the problem than mine