agreed. but the real problem is opposing teaching programming because we don't like microsoft. fuck microsoft
oh, microsoft wants a say? make them pay for the hardware. thanks microsoft, now fuck off. see how that works?
people have this bizarre impression that corporations are this dark force of evil unstoppable and unbendable. corporations are made of people. tell them what to do then tell them to fuck off
corporations do exert a lot of vile influence in society. so oppose that bad influence, while using the assholes. tell them how to contribute, make a lot of noise when they go another way. herd the douchebags
what's the better alternative? hide under our bed and cower in fear that we can do nothing about them?
it's just as important in today's world as learning algebra, literature, or music
i'd also like to see financial literacy taught as well (but credit card companies would lobby against that)
the rest of the "summary" above is a bunch of stilted hate. we get it: people hate microsoft and facebook. heck, i hate microsoft and facebook
but even hitler liked dogs and believed in a funding national infrastructure. meaning: even someone you hate can be right about something and you can agree on something
if you actually stand against something as fundamental and important as teaching everyone programming because you don't like microsoft or facebook, you're pretty fucking stupid
btw, learning programming in school does not mean everyone should be taken seriously as a programmer: another moronic argument i hear on this topic. every calculus student doesn't become a mathematician nor every high school band member joins an orchestra. the point of education is to produce adults knowledgable enough about the basics of how their world works to be adequately intelligent on various topics. this is what education is suppose to be: prodcuing well-rounded individuals, not narrow technical training. you constantly hear and see slashdot articles lampooning stupid congresspeople who don't know the basic of biology or science when issuing an opinion. good: then you support a well-rounded education
cue the "kids shouldn't learning programming unless they are going to pursue it as a career" slashdot comments followed by "did you hear what that moron said about a series of tubes and the internet? why do idiots who nothing about these topics make decisions about them?" and not make the fucking connection
you completely misrepresented my point or showed that you did not understand it
meaning you failed to read my comment or you failed to understand my comment
you can't make accusations about anyone else's conversational acumen if you lack the intellectual honesty or intellectual ability to even have a fucking coherent conversation
they mostly overlap, but where the two have the most problems is disproportionate punishment: massive jailtime for smoking marijuana cigarette or crushing financial ruin for downloading a file for example
it was illegal for a black person to ride in a section reserved for white people. until last week it was illegal for gays to marry. it is illegal to smoke marijuana in most of the usa, but that will change soon too
aaron swartz downloaded files. the pirate bay team shared files
for this they are treated with more severity than actual murders
this is not morality and not a legal status quo that requires your respect nor ensures your compliance
where the punishments are massively more brutal than the crimes, you have a legal area itself which is immoral. for example (i'm not saying they are same, it's an analogy for you to understand the topic) in some places that practice sharia law, you chop off a person's hand for stealing, or stone them to death for adultery. this brutality means the legal status quo in that society is actually more immoral than the crimes they are punishing, and such societies do not actually prevent immoral and illegal acts. in fact, they simply convince citizens to treat each other and the authorities with as much cruelty as the authorities deliver to its citizens. we see areas of the world where brutality is proscirbed by authorities creating societies where violence and brutality reign as normal
again, i'm not saying that file downloading is exactly like daesh, i am trying to make you understand how brutal punishments are not respectable and in fact result in worse social conditions
in the same way, there is no respect due to the punishments that western countries like the usa proscribe for file sharing on the internet
the proper response to the legal status quo is to defy and defile the illegitimate and immoral laws wherever and whenever you can, until there is enough of a fire that society demands a rethinking of the laws to be proportional to the actual moral severity of the crimes in question
rather than the agenda of the corporations who have bribed the government to make the punishments so cruel, which is what you are really defending with your words: not morality, but corruption
reddit needs to pay its mods (say, a cut of ad revenue from their sub)
if they work for free, they have no real power over them. which is unstable as current developments indicate
also, if they pay them, they can fire them
you can say paying mods will change the tenor of reddit but this is bullshit: what motivates someone to mod for free is a sort of pathetic need for power, which is actually worse than any nefariousness due to filthy lucre as their motivation
bye bye reddit, you were fun. but you have a fatal flaw in your power structure:
your alternative method is inferior as the specific request is tech *skills*, which you find on resumes, people speaking to their merits to get hired
not "tech appearing together on message boards," which indicated a whole host of relationships, relationship by skillset being far down the list
the simple fact is there is no perfect methodology so criticizing the methodology for being imperfect is without merit. and in articulating a yet even more inferior methodology in your latest comment i have to assume you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, you're barely trying, you're not serious, and so this useless thread is over
are you saying there exists some implementation that analyzes every resume in existence perfectly? it's "incomplete" in the sense that any such effort is incomplete and imperfect by nature of the problem. your criticism is invalid, you don't understand the task if you expect completeness is possible
it's just analyzing the appearance of words in listed skills
actual database pros would not put "database" as an enumerated skill
maybe the kind of person who lists "windows" "internet explorer" and "microsoft word" as tech skills would, but such people would not show up in the data set analyzed here: resumes from serious professionals working in the tech sector
so it makes sense "database" would only be a tiny little distant circle
hitler liked dogs and thought highly of investing in highway infrastructure
people can be the epitome of evil and still be right about something. your "thinking" on this topic is basically the same as saying you hate dogs because hitler liked them
yes, the right screams about iran's bomb program. that doesn't mean the right is suddenly correct about everything, they are warmongering douchebags. however, they are actually correct *in this one instance* about the fucking bomb program
it also doesn't mean we should go to war. "i agree with the right that iran has a bomb program therefore i have to do exactly what the right says we should do about that" does not actually logically follow genius. but most importantly, it doesn't mean the nuclear program magically does not exist just because neocons are poopyheads and we don't like warmongering neocons
believing iraq has a nuclear program because some iraqi went to niger once and niger had yellowcake is *exactly* as fucking stupid as believing iran does not have a bomb program because we don't like donald rumsfeld: a ridiculous erroneous connection for a stupid prejudicial reason
so: congratulations: you are what you hate. your "thinking" is the same quality as warmongering and propagandized american idiots. intelligence is not doing the opposite of who you hate. that's just the same idiocies in reverse. intelligence is about actually being fucking perceptive and observing reality, actual reality. guided by facts nor prejudices. which means every once in a while *gasp* you and your ideological foes agree on the observation before you. and it doesn't logically follow that you agree with them about what to do about it, right genius? you deny what they want to do about reality, you don't deny reality!
seriously, you are a fucking idiot on this topic. you are to me exactly the same kind of loser as the idiots who thought iraq had a nuclear program. you believe something obviously not real because of who you like/ dislike prejudicially who says the lie. fucking moronic
there's identifying and knowing your weaknesses, planning for them, and failing over swiftly and gracefully
then there's not doing a damn thing about the weaknesses, and using the same damn set up forever
also, we're not talking about exchanging product keys for cracked software. we're talking about a system used in a wold war where thousands of lives and the prestige of nations depended upon a good implementation plan
Slashdot Mirror
agreed. but the real problem is opposing teaching programming because we don't like microsoft. fuck microsoft
oh, microsoft wants a say? make them pay for the hardware. thanks microsoft, now fuck off. see how that works?
people have this bizarre impression that corporations are this dark force of evil unstoppable and unbendable. corporations are made of people. tell them what to do then tell them to fuck off
corporations do exert a lot of vile influence in society. so oppose that bad influence, while using the assholes. tell them how to contribute, make a lot of noise when they go another way. herd the douchebags
what's the better alternative? hide under our bed and cower in fear that we can do nothing about them?
don't teach kids math so they don't hate math. got it
programming more advanced than algebra? that's ignorant and insane
https://scratch.mit.edu/
anyone who can plan minecraft expeditions can program
we're not teaching them advanced algorithms here friend. we're not even teaching them bubble sort
we're talking about if/ then and while loops
you're average first grader can appreciate this
it's just as important in today's world as learning algebra, literature, or music
i'd also like to see financial literacy taught as well (but credit card companies would lobby against that)
the rest of the "summary" above is a bunch of stilted hate. we get it: people hate microsoft and facebook. heck, i hate microsoft and facebook
but even hitler liked dogs and believed in a funding national infrastructure. meaning: even someone you hate can be right about something and you can agree on something
if you actually stand against something as fundamental and important as teaching everyone programming because you don't like microsoft or facebook, you're pretty fucking stupid
btw, learning programming in school does not mean everyone should be taken seriously as a programmer: another moronic argument i hear on this topic. every calculus student doesn't become a mathematician nor every high school band member joins an orchestra. the point of education is to produce adults knowledgable enough about the basics of how their world works to be adequately intelligent on various topics. this is what education is suppose to be: prodcuing well-rounded individuals, not narrow technical training. you constantly hear and see slashdot articles lampooning stupid congresspeople who don't know the basic of biology or science when issuing an opinion. good: then you support a well-rounded education
cue the "kids shouldn't learning programming unless they are going to pursue it as a career" slashdot comments followed by "did you hear what that moron said about a series of tubes and the internet? why do idiots who nothing about these topics make decisions about them?" and not make the fucking connection
I am not a certified certifications expert.
However, I do have a certificate in Trust Building.
Therefore, you can trust me.
wait... you're not even the guy i was originally interacting with
are you lonely? you have some pathetic need to get emotional 7 comments deep in a conversation you have nothing to do with?
do you actually have anything substantive to say on the topic or do you just require remedial social interaction?
you misrepresented basic facts of a subject matter you chose to speak on
so don't be mad, just educate your *ignorant* self before injecting yourself into a topic you are ill-prepared for, next time
good luck kid
i stopped reading there. yeah, he was never convicted because he committed suicide you dumb fuck
and to assert that aaron swartz didn't face brutal punishment makes you either an asshole, a moron, or both
http://thinkprogress.org/justi...
http://reason.com/archives/201...
http://www.newyorker.com/news/...
read the above. educate yourself. then open your ignorant mouth
the comment you are replying to was talking about aaron swartz, or at least brutal excessive punishment for internet "crimes"
i got to fuckstick my eyes glazed over and i just couldn't anymore
sorry, you're too remedial, just not worth the effort
why are you commenting when you don't even understand the fucking topic?
http://thinkprogress.org/justi...
http://reason.com/archives/201...
http://www.newyorker.com/news/...
it helps to understand the bare basic facts of a topic before you open your ignorant mouth
please educate yourself first next time, then talk
you completely misrepresented my point or showed that you did not understand it
meaning you failed to read my comment or you failed to understand my comment
you can't make accusations about anyone else's conversational acumen if you lack the intellectual honesty or intellectual ability to even have a fucking coherent conversation
you completely missed the fucking point
i never said what he did wasn't a crime. i was speaking to the brutality of the punishment
jaywalking is a crime
murder is a crime
should jaywalking and murder have the same punishment?
no?
then ask yourself: did aaron's punishment fit his crime?
do you understand the point now?
i stopped reading there
that has nothing to do with the point
the point is the harshness of the punishment fitting the crime or not
if you can't understand the simple point that the punishment massively overreacts to the "crime", you are not worth interacting with
legality is not necessarily morality
they mostly overlap, but where the two have the most problems is disproportionate punishment: massive jailtime for smoking marijuana cigarette or crushing financial ruin for downloading a file for example
it was illegal for a black person to ride in a section reserved for white people. until last week it was illegal for gays to marry. it is illegal to smoke marijuana in most of the usa, but that will change soon too
aaron swartz downloaded files. the pirate bay team shared files
for this they are treated with more severity than actual murders
this is not morality and not a legal status quo that requires your respect nor ensures your compliance
where the punishments are massively more brutal than the crimes, you have a legal area itself which is immoral. for example (i'm not saying they are same, it's an analogy for you to understand the topic) in some places that practice sharia law, you chop off a person's hand for stealing, or stone them to death for adultery. this brutality means the legal status quo in that society is actually more immoral than the crimes they are punishing, and such societies do not actually prevent immoral and illegal acts. in fact, they simply convince citizens to treat each other and the authorities with as much cruelty as the authorities deliver to its citizens. we see areas of the world where brutality is proscirbed by authorities creating societies where violence and brutality reign as normal
again, i'm not saying that file downloading is exactly like daesh, i am trying to make you understand how brutal punishments are not respectable and in fact result in worse social conditions
in the same way, there is no respect due to the punishments that western countries like the usa proscribe for file sharing on the internet
the proper response to the legal status quo is to defy and defile the illegitimate and immoral laws wherever and whenever you can, until there is enough of a fire that society demands a rethinking of the laws to be proportional to the actual moral severity of the crimes in question
rather than the agenda of the corporations who have bribed the government to make the punishments so cruel, which is what you are really defending with your words: not morality, but corruption
hmmm... what about slashdot?
awhile ago
and i feel vindicated
reddit needs to pay its mods (say, a cut of ad revenue from their sub)
if they work for free, they have no real power over them. which is unstable as current developments indicate
also, if they pay them, they can fire them
you can say paying mods will change the tenor of reddit but this is bullshit: what motivates someone to mod for free is a sort of pathetic need for power, which is actually worse than any nefariousness due to filthy lucre as their motivation
bye bye reddit, you were fun. but you have a fatal flaw in your power structure:
uncaring admins and abusive mods
so what's the next site to rise?
any tips?
your alternative method is inferior as the specific request is tech *skills*, which you find on resumes, people speaking to their merits to get hired
not "tech appearing together on message boards," which indicated a whole host of relationships, relationship by skillset being far down the list
the simple fact is there is no perfect methodology so criticizing the methodology for being imperfect is without merit. and in articulating a yet even more inferior methodology in your latest comment i have to assume you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, you're barely trying, you're not serious, and so this useless thread is over
i was joking!
are you joking?
arggh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
the arnold schwarzenegger move "terminator genisys" is in theatres and hollywood wanted a really effective advertising stunt
are you saying there exists some implementation that analyzes every resume in existence perfectly? it's "incomplete" in the sense that any such effort is incomplete and imperfect by nature of the problem. your criticism is invalid, you don't understand the task if you expect completeness is possible
and i've seen my fair share of poor visualizations
but i think this is actually really well done, useful even
congratulations to Simon Hughes
it's just analyzing the appearance of words in listed skills
actual database pros would not put "database" as an enumerated skill
maybe the kind of person who lists "windows" "internet explorer" and "microsoft word" as tech skills would, but such people would not show up in the data set analyzed here: resumes from serious professionals working in the tech sector
so it makes sense "database" would only be a tiny little distant circle
hitler liked dogs and thought highly of investing in highway infrastructure
people can be the epitome of evil and still be right about something. your "thinking" on this topic is basically the same as saying you hate dogs because hitler liked them
yes, the right screams about iran's bomb program. that doesn't mean the right is suddenly correct about everything, they are warmongering douchebags. however, they are actually correct *in this one instance* about the fucking bomb program
it also doesn't mean we should go to war. "i agree with the right that iran has a bomb program therefore i have to do exactly what the right says we should do about that" does not actually logically follow genius. but most importantly, it doesn't mean the nuclear program magically does not exist just because neocons are poopyheads and we don't like warmongering neocons
believing iraq has a nuclear program because some iraqi went to niger once and niger had yellowcake is *exactly* as fucking stupid as believing iran does not have a bomb program because we don't like donald rumsfeld: a ridiculous erroneous connection for a stupid prejudicial reason
so: congratulations: you are what you hate. your "thinking" is the same quality as warmongering and propagandized american idiots. intelligence is not doing the opposite of who you hate. that's just the same idiocies in reverse. intelligence is about actually being fucking perceptive and observing reality, actual reality. guided by facts nor prejudices. which means every once in a while *gasp* you and your ideological foes agree on the observation before you. and it doesn't logically follow that you agree with them about what to do about it, right genius? you deny what they want to do about reality, you don't deny reality!
seriously, you are a fucking idiot on this topic. you are to me exactly the same kind of loser as the idiots who thought iraq had a nuclear program. you believe something obviously not real because of who you like/ dislike prejudicially who says the lie. fucking moronic
there's identifying and knowing your weaknesses, planning for them, and failing over swiftly and gracefully
then there's not doing a damn thing about the weaknesses, and using the same damn set up forever
also, we're not talking about exchanging product keys for cracked software. we're talking about a system used in a wold war where thousands of lives and the prestige of nations depended upon a good implementation plan