at one time, equal rights for whites and blacks were new too. at that time, it was constantly two steps forwards, one step back. but as principles are clarified and codified, gay rights acquires an air of infallibility and inevitability. now, 150 years after reconstruction, no one would seriously challenge the legal idea blacks and whites are equal. but only over an extended period of time of constant effort and set backs were things finally congealed and acquired depth and tradition. that's not true yet with gay rights, but it will be in 150 years. prop8 is a step back. yet in new hampshire, massachusettes, iowa: the steps forward are being made. give it time. and this is a GOOD thing: fundamental extensions to our principles SHOULD take time
you believe what was laid down 250 years ago is 100% infallible. but society changes. issues need to be reinterpreted and clarified, constantly. everything changes. it is impossible to adhere to what the founding fathers wrote and not change over time, nor should you think that is a admirable goal. gay rights for example was not something the founding fathers dealt with or even cared about. the accretion of what you call entropy is the wrong characterization. its clarification and extension of basic principles, strengthing them, challenge after challenge
the country is getting stronger, not weaker. your understanding of things is rigid and immovable, and therefore weak and irrelevant
what you are describing is just regular wear and tear on any country, regardless of the government. governments are challenged all the time via internal legal maneuvering. the issue is is the system robust enough to deal with the wear and tear? i would assert it is, and getting better as it accretes more legal tradition and history, all serving to underline our commitment to the fundamental principles and doctrines of the usa. we're getting better, not worse. but jmorris42 asserts the process of destruction has been going on for awhile and we're at the doorstep of fascism. pure crackpot lunacy
i always make sure the sites i code for render properly in opera, even though this has sometimes taken extra time and gotten me ridiculed
for sites where opera does not work, the slightest bit of tweaks in the javascript/css usually gets the site working, except for the fact the coder apparently doesn't care
usually coding for ie and firefox and webkit catches all the snags that would foul up opera. but opera does have its own quirks. most are nonlethal. for example, opera does not respect
html{overflow-y:scroll}
opera has issues with border-radius (hopefully version 10 fixes this)
some oddities involving a:focus/a:active, spacing issues with display:inline-block, etc.
link is from another commenter in this same thread. one of the worst nuclear disasters ever. note: link may not work because it contains portuguese characters and fucking slashdot doesn't use unicode encoding yet. welcome to 1994. follow the link and go to "search for..." and wikipedia will resolve it to the right article
as for house: i remember that episode. ll cool jay was the actor and he found a cool piece of metal in the trashyard he worked and hung it around his neck (shudders)
there are many ways to terrorize with radioactive material. but
plus side #1: it tends to get washed away after a few rains. nagasaki and hiroshima were nuked with plutonium, and they aren't permanently uninhabitable, or even radioactive above background radiation that much. although, something like chernobyl is different. it depends upon the type of radioactive element and how it is dispersed
plus side #2: any high profile place that an asshole might want to terrorize with radioactive contamination: they have radioactive detectors in place nowadays. not EVERYWHERE though, you could pick an out of the way place in a second tier city and do a lot of contamination before anyone notices, true
"Seriously, we're doomed if we rely on the Federal Government to protect us"
who the hell is going to do the job?
"I mean a terrorist just shot two US soldiers in our country and the President hasn't even addressed it. What better way to terrorize our nation then to shoot soldiers are random when they should be safe. The stress of being in Iraq/Afghanistan is bad enough, but now they need to worry about getting shoot back at home?"
almost every year, some student goes nuts and shoots up a campus. but i don't see students scared of going to school. what makes you think any solider worth his salt will terrorized by one lone nut?
c'mon, most people complain how little the government cares about jobs in this country. now suddenly you assert they care a lot? the amount saved from getting rid of dea, prison union jobs, etc., combined with the massive amounts of cash from taxing the trade in something like marijuana: its a fucking no brainer
the only thing that stands in the way of legal marijuana is social conservatism
radiotherapy for cancer, markers/indicators in various diagnostic tests, positron emission tomography, etc.
of course a lot of these sources are extremely dilute, or have a very short half life. the dilution problem can be solved by a committed asshole, and there are also plenty of health care radioactivity uses that do not involve short lived isotopes
"Congress started sneaking over the line pretty fast actually. But they sneaked because they knew it was wrong and if enough people caught em there would be trouble"
you do realize that congress is composed of men and women just like you and me: well-meaning bumbling folk. not alien entities with an agenda out to destroy your rights
i think you are a paranoid schizophrenic. or, more hopefully, a teenager with too much hollywood and too little common sense and experience with other people
"Let me set a challenge to you. Go to Congress's Thomas search engine and find a Bill at random. Open another tab and Google up a copy of the US Constituition. Since you are asking the question it is a good probability you have never actually read our founding document so do that before continuing. Now read that random Bill and attempt to locate the authority for whatever it is trying to do in the Constituition you have open in the other tab. Odds are you won't find any such authority but you will find a 10th Amendment that forbids it. Repeat this random process another nine times, recording your results. I'll bet you that at least eight will fail muster and give you even odds that all ten will fail."
wtf?
look, crackpot:
what protects your rights is that you have some laws which can be changed easily, and you have some laws which can be changed only with great difficulty
which should be easy and which should be hard? well, various legal concepts are enshrined at various levels in our legal system and its history. for example, the set of laws concerning equality have been reaffirmed going back to reconstruction. it would take a lot more effort than one simple vote or law to overturn them. there is no "rule of men" that comes along like a bull in a china shop and destroys the constitution. rather, the essential principles of the constitution have been expounded upon and shifted SLOWLY and SLIGHTLY in interpretation over time. as THEY SHOULD BE, since society changes. right?
in this way, our laws and principles and rights are not as fragile as you suppose, nor as subject to the vagarities of public opinion as your anxiety-ridden thinking would suppose
"When dealing with complex issues such as law-making and governance, we need to locate and consult suitably educated experts to make these decisions."
"suitable educated" translates as "suitably indoctrinated into an agenda" in reality. there is no such thing as "education" on matters of social policy, only opinions. you can be educated in the hard sciences, say physics, but on the subject matter of say, states rights versus federal rights, you can only be indoctrinated into an agenda, right or left. you can't be educated in matters of social policy in the same way as say, how magnetism works
really, the problem with trusting some sort of elite over the general public should be self-apparent to you
what you do is retain your faith in the general public, you don't have any "experts" (aka, partisan hacks), but what protects your rights is that you have some laws which can be changed easily, and you have some laws which can be changed only with great difficulty
which should be easy and which should be hard? well, various legal concepts are enshrined at various levels in our legal system and its history. for example, the set of laws concerning equality have been reaffirmed going back to reconstruction. it would take a lot more effort than one simple vote or law to overturn them
in this way, our laws and principles and rights are not as fragile as you suppose, nor as subject to the vagarities of public opinion as so many anxiety-ridden types would believe
"The problem was progressives wanted to scrap it and start over with fascism/socialism yet lacked the votes to do so. They got the bright idea to just start ignoring the limits and use their control over the mass media to blur ths issue."
you really believe that?
you've been watching too many hollywood movies
i would characterize your thoughts as borderline paranoid schizophrenic
that what you wrote you think has anything remotely to do with reality is completely laughable, or frightening, depending upon what you think should be done about the vast left-wing conspiracy to put us under fascist socialism
say the list was kept perfectly secret. as if no one who intends harm couldn't ferret out where the sites are. its not as if the sites are very mobile, most have been there for decades
and none of the material is easily weaponized. well, you could build a dirty bomb. but if you were building a dirty bomb, it would be easier to shop used medical equipment. perhaps from outside the country. i'm sure you could find some old radiology equipment in latin america and sneak it over the mexican border undetected. line it with lead and drive it in. pack it with some dynamite in a city center: boom, instant radioactive times square
finally, even if the sites were kept secret, they still need to be guarded. that's the real safeguard
although the list does allow those who intend to do harm confirmation of sites, and an ability to triage which is easier than another to attempt to breach
wait, why won't you have a discussion with me? you say it's older? prove it. show me your numbers. why are you walking away? you're afraid your so called science will collapse under scrutiny? hah! i knew it!
zzz
dude, i have no respect for you. there's nothing to talk about with someone so deluded. you're an asshole with no human conscience
but please, by all means, take this as proof i won't debate you because you've won the argument
a creationist would do the same if i blew him off
like i have a chance to pierce your delusions on a discussion board in a few posts
delusional state: unpunctured and preserved
but here's a parting cluebat for you: maybe your numbers are WRONG you hallucinating fuck?
geee just maybe A LITTLE FUCKING OFF? maybe ORDERS OF FUCKING MAGNITUDE?
naaaaaaah
impossible
but of course, because i won't engage with you, you must be correct, right?
do you want to have a level headed discussion with me on that idea?
or do you want to laugh your ass off at me for being a total fucktard?
now you know how i feel
"Estimated 1,000,000 to 2,000,000 successful uses of a firearm in self-defense per year (unknown number of lives saved)."
well, i want to tell you about the thetans in your body put there by xenu because they were chained to earth volcanoes 10,000 years ago
not feeling me?
now you know how i feel when presented with your delusions
and of course, if i won't sit here and gently hold your hand and keep a straight face while you vomit bald faced lies and pure shit, i'm the party in the wrong
Slashdot Mirror
in-home telegraph system
imagine the envy and awe of your friends and neighbors as you show off a morse telegraph key in every room
behind a login of course
work because you have a large centralized company easily lassoed into the arrangement
but noncorporate entities?
outside the country?
dispersed and distributed?
ok, so you can go after the downloaders
so the downloaders download the free client that obfuscates the traffic as http requests and the like
basically: good luck mr. tax man, you're going to need it to get a dime
http://www.galapagosonline.com/Galapagos_Natural_History/Birds_and_Animals/Birds/Boobies.html
increase in equality between the sexes, increase in rights for the disabled, increased rights for homosexuals, etc., etc.
the tempo of the last 50 years has been nothing but a great extension of liberty in this country
what the hell are you smoking?
at one time, equal rights for whites and blacks were new too. at that time, it was constantly two steps forwards, one step back. but as principles are clarified and codified, gay rights acquires an air of infallibility and inevitability. now, 150 years after reconstruction, no one would seriously challenge the legal idea blacks and whites are equal. but only over an extended period of time of constant effort and set backs were things finally congealed and acquired depth and tradition. that's not true yet with gay rights, but it will be in 150 years. prop8 is a step back. yet in new hampshire, massachusettes, iowa: the steps forward are being made. give it time. and this is a GOOD thing: fundamental extensions to our principles SHOULD take time
you believe what was laid down 250 years ago is 100% infallible. but society changes. issues need to be reinterpreted and clarified, constantly. everything changes. it is impossible to adhere to what the founding fathers wrote and not change over time, nor should you think that is a admirable goal. gay rights for example was not something the founding fathers dealt with or even cared about. the accretion of what you call entropy is the wrong characterization. its clarification and extension of basic principles, strengthing them, challenge after challenge
the country is getting stronger, not weaker. your understanding of things is rigid and immovable, and therefore weak and irrelevant
what you are describing is just regular wear and tear on any country, regardless of the government. governments are challenged all the time via internal legal maneuvering. the issue is is the system robust enough to deal with the wear and tear? i would assert it is, and getting better as it accretes more legal tradition and history, all serving to underline our commitment to the fundamental principles and doctrines of the usa. we're getting better, not worse. but jmorris42 asserts the process of destruction has been going on for awhile and we're at the doorstep of fascism. pure crackpot lunacy
unfortunately old machinery is probably still in use in poor countries, or comes back from the dead in unpredictable ways, like this nightmare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goiânia_accident
always have
i always make sure the sites i code for render properly in opera, even though this has sometimes taken extra time and gotten me ridiculed
for sites where opera does not work, the slightest bit of tweaks in the javascript/css usually gets the site working, except for the fact the coder apparently doesn't care
usually coding for ie and firefox and webkit catches all the snags that would foul up opera. but opera does have its own quirks. most are nonlethal. for example, opera does not respect
html{overflow-y:scroll}
opera has issues with border-radius (hopefully version 10 fixes this)
some oddities involving a:focus/a:active, spacing issues with display:inline-block, etc.
all minor and nonlethal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goiânia_accident
link is from another commenter in this same thread. one of the worst nuclear disasters ever. note: link may not work because it contains portuguese characters and fucking slashdot doesn't use unicode encoding yet. welcome to 1994. follow the link and go to "search for..." and wikipedia will resolve it to the right article
as for house: i remember that episode. ll cool jay was the actor and he found a cool piece of metal in the trashyard he worked and hung it around his neck (shudders)
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Traces_of_radiation_found_where_Litvinenko_ate
there are many ways to terrorize with radioactive material. but
plus side #1: it tends to get washed away after a few rains. nagasaki and hiroshima were nuked with plutonium, and they aren't permanently uninhabitable, or even radioactive above background radiation that much. although, something like chernobyl is different. it depends upon the type of radioactive element and how it is dispersed
plus side #2: any high profile place that an asshole might want to terrorize with radioactive contamination: they have radioactive detectors in place nowadays. not EVERYWHERE though, you could pick an out of the way place in a second tier city and do a lot of contamination before anyone notices, true
"Seriously, we're doomed if we rely on the Federal Government to protect us"
who the hell is going to do the job?
"I mean a terrorist just shot two US soldiers in our country and the President hasn't even addressed it. What better way to terrorize our nation then to shoot soldiers are random when they should be safe. The stress of being in Iraq/Afghanistan is bad enough, but now they need to worry about getting shoot back at home?"
almost every year, some student goes nuts and shoots up a campus. but i don't see students scared of going to school. what makes you think any solider worth his salt will terrorized by one lone nut?
from taxing the open marijuana trade
c'mon, most people complain how little the government cares about jobs in this country. now suddenly you assert they care a lot? the amount saved from getting rid of dea, prison union jobs, etc., combined with the massive amounts of cash from taxing the trade in something like marijuana: its a fucking no brainer
the only thing that stands in the way of legal marijuana is social conservatism
radiotherapy for cancer, markers/indicators in various diagnostic tests, positron emission tomography, etc.
of course a lot of these sources are extremely dilute, or have a very short half life. the dilution problem can be solved by a committed asshole, and there are also plenty of health care radioactivity uses that do not involve short lived isotopes
"Congress started sneaking over the line pretty fast actually. But they sneaked because they knew it was wrong and if enough people caught em there would be trouble"
you do realize that congress is composed of men and women just like you and me: well-meaning bumbling folk. not alien entities with an agenda out to destroy your rights
i think you are a paranoid schizophrenic. or, more hopefully, a teenager with too much hollywood and too little common sense and experience with other people
"Let me set a challenge to you. Go to Congress's Thomas search engine and find a Bill at random. Open another tab and Google up a copy of the US Constituition. Since you are asking the question it is a good probability you have never actually read our founding document so do that before continuing. Now read that random Bill and attempt to locate the authority for whatever it is trying to do in the Constituition you have open in the other tab. Odds are you won't find any such authority but you will find a 10th Amendment that forbids it. Repeat this random process another nine times, recording your results. I'll bet you that at least eight will fail muster and give you even odds that all ten will fail."
wtf?
look, crackpot:
what protects your rights is that you have some laws which can be changed easily, and you have some laws which can be changed only with great difficulty
which should be easy and which should be hard? well, various legal concepts are enshrined at various levels in our legal system and its history. for example, the set of laws concerning equality have been reaffirmed going back to reconstruction. it would take a lot more effort than one simple vote or law to overturn them. there is no "rule of men" that comes along like a bull in a china shop and destroys the constitution. rather, the essential principles of the constitution have been expounded upon and shifted SLOWLY and SLIGHTLY in interpretation over time. as THEY SHOULD BE, since society changes. right?
in this way, our laws and principles and rights are not as fragile as you suppose, nor as subject to the vagarities of public opinion as your anxiety-ridden thinking would suppose
"When dealing with complex issues such as law-making and governance, we need to locate and consult suitably educated experts to make these decisions."
"suitable educated" translates as "suitably indoctrinated into an agenda" in reality. there is no such thing as "education" on matters of social policy, only opinions. you can be educated in the hard sciences, say physics, but on the subject matter of say, states rights versus federal rights, you can only be indoctrinated into an agenda, right or left. you can't be educated in matters of social policy in the same way as say, how magnetism works
really, the problem with trusting some sort of elite over the general public should be self-apparent to you
what you do is retain your faith in the general public, you don't have any "experts" (aka, partisan hacks), but what protects your rights is that you have some laws which can be changed easily, and you have some laws which can be changed only with great difficulty
which should be easy and which should be hard? well, various legal concepts are enshrined at various levels in our legal system and its history. for example, the set of laws concerning equality have been reaffirmed going back to reconstruction. it would take a lot more effort than one simple vote or law to overturn them
in this way, our laws and principles and rights are not as fragile as you suppose, nor as subject to the vagarities of public opinion as so many anxiety-ridden types would believe
"The problem was progressives wanted to scrap it and start over with fascism/socialism yet lacked the votes to do so. They got the bright idea to just start ignoring the limits and use their control over the mass media to blur ths issue."
you really believe that?
you've been watching too many hollywood movies
i would characterize your thoughts as borderline paranoid schizophrenic
that what you wrote you think has anything remotely to do with reality is completely laughable, or frightening, depending upon what you think should be done about the vast left-wing conspiracy to put us under fascist socialism
seriously? wtf
"But we threw that away and now have the Rule of Men and our civilization is declining"
we did? when the hell did that happen?
say the list was kept perfectly secret. as if no one who intends harm couldn't ferret out where the sites are. its not as if the sites are very mobile, most have been there for decades
and none of the material is easily weaponized. well, you could build a dirty bomb. but if you were building a dirty bomb, it would be easier to shop used medical equipment. perhaps from outside the country. i'm sure you could find some old radiology equipment in latin america and sneak it over the mexican border undetected. line it with lead and drive it in. pack it with some dynamite in a city center: boom, instant radioactive times square
finally, even if the sites were kept secret, they still need to be guarded. that's the real safeguard
although the list does allow those who intend to do harm confirmation of sites, and an ability to triage which is easier than another to attempt to breach
i have it on solid authority
http://www.biblegateway.com/
wait, why won't you have a discussion with me? you say it's older? prove it. show me your numbers. why are you walking away? you're afraid your so called science will collapse under scrutiny? hah! i knew it!
zzz
dude, i have no respect for you. there's nothing to talk about with someone so deluded. you're an asshole with no human conscience
but please, by all means, take this as proof i won't debate you because you've won the argument
a creationist would do the same if i blew him off
like i have a chance to pierce your delusions on a discussion board in a few posts
delusional state: unpunctured and preserved
but here's a parting cluebat for you: maybe your numbers are WRONG you hallucinating fuck?
geee just maybe A LITTLE FUCKING OFF? maybe ORDERS OF FUCKING MAGNITUDE?
naaaaaaah
impossible
but of course, because i won't engage with you, you must be correct, right?
adios douchebag
do you want to have a level headed discussion with me on that idea?
or do you want to laugh your ass off at me for being a total fucktard?
now you know how i feel
"Estimated 1,000,000 to 2,000,000 successful uses of a firearm in self-defense per year (unknown number of lives saved)."
well, i want to tell you about the thetans in your body put there by xenu because they were chained to earth volcanoes 10,000 years ago
not feeling me?
now you know how i feel when presented with your delusions
and of course, if i won't sit here and gently hold your hand and keep a straight face while you vomit bald faced lies and pure shit, i'm the party in the wrong
alriiiigthy then
my very own stalker
i feel all warm and fuzzy inside
someone cares
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
to recover a hard disk?
your ninja geek skills are truly awesome
of a firearm in self-defense per year"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
uhng
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sweet, sweet delusion