even the founder of greenpeace is for nuclear power now
a REAL environmentalist understands that coal is far more damaging to the environment than nuclear is, even with 10 more chernobyls
actually, i remember seeing a special on tv about chernobyl as it is today, and how it is a wildlife paradise
so perhaps a real environmentalist militant worthy of their greenpeace stripes would go around sabotaging nuclear power plants to create human free wildlife zones?
there's people who can also drive 90 mph all the time and never get in an accident
i don't know what such oddballs are supposed to teach us about the average human abilities though, to manage the standard human biochemical response to a highly addictive substance
the american model is broken. you compare our lifestyles and what we worry about with say, the danish. now the danish are taxed at ridiculous rates. but they also gets weeks off every year from work. they never have to worry about their healthcare. you ever fought with an hmo over what is covered or not?
to pay for healthcare on your own, you are putting yourself in effectively the same tax bracket as the danish anyways. so the only difference then is the danish get worry free peace of mind, and we get to fight with hmos. its fucking stupid
and surveys show the danish are happier than americans. universal healthcare is such a no brainer. i can't fathom the stupidity of those in the usa that oppose it
socialism is superior to the american model. it really, really is. ok, we get lower taxes. but that just means we have to go buy on our own what is covered anyways in socialist societies. america has better healthcare? partially: better CRISIS healthcare. but the socialist model has better PREVENTATIVE healthcare. in other words, if i have a heart attack, i'd rather be in an american hosptial than a european one. but in the european hospital, i wouldn't get the heart attack in the first place!
not that lithium is abundant, nor cheap to get, but nor is coal or oil getting cheaper
nor is uranium and thorium, while we're at it
and yet we need to upgrade to nuclear, like france japan, in order to save our environment and stop funding our enemies. and then we need to figure out fusion, or we really are doomed
looking at the larger picture, how expensive is that lithium battery, really?
a number of negativities with being american that are, in fact, just negativities with being human. for example, obsession with celebrities. this is a worldwide phenomenon, not an american one. furthermore, try talking about nazism or scientology or certain islamic practices in france or great britain or germany. i think that you find your rights to free speech and being spied upon are just as bad, if not worse, than any curtailments on your free speech in the usa
certainly, much is wrong with the usa. but much is also wrong with europe. on a number of issues, there are pluses and minuses to living her or there. however, one feature does pop up in my mind: socialized medicine. the usa needs universal healthcare. it is a national shame that we do not, and that we are held hostage to some really frigne fools and their idiotic philosophies about why universal healthcare is wrong
you think some sort of agrarian utopia of everyone on bikes is superior? this is proof common sense has absolutely nothing to do with your thought processes. no, common sense says we simply modify our energy sources. we go nuclear, and we master fusion eventually (if we don't do that we ARE going to all be on bikes in a century or two)
the only future is more and more energy use. you seem to have this idea in your head that living large is wrong. no, the story of progress is more and more riches and energy use for everyone. we get temporary setbacks, certainly, but the only way to say your approach is superior is to abandon the notion of progress
everyone on bikes is akin to agrarian communist fantasies of everyone becoming farmers again. should we stop using lightbulbs too? candles? you're insane. its just not going to happen, it isn't superior, and to think everyone bikes is superior in any scenario is proof that common sense has nothing to do with you
a civil engineer, an electrical engineer, and a mechanical engineer were debating what kind of engineer god was
the mechanical engineer spoke first: "god is obviously a mechanical engineer. just look at the marvelous ballet of muscles and bones"
the electrical engineer chimed in: "no, no, no. how can you not marvel at the nerves and the brain? those miraculous electrical engineering feats?"
finally the civil engineer chimed in: "sorry to break it to you guys, but god was obviously a civil engineer. who else would run liquid and solid waste facilities right through a recreational area?"
if a guy breaks his arm and is out of a job, what do you do? let him starve?
no, as a society you give him the healthcare he needs until he is back on his feet. are there those who abuse the system? welfare cheats? yes. so you find them and punish them
but because soomeone tries to cheat the system you'd prefer a world where society just lets people starve for the sake of setbacks in their life? setbacks we all suffer, including you?
where do you derive your support? are you very rich? do you have a lot of strong family ties? good for you! so someone who iw poor or has no family ties deserves to starve in the street? this is a superior moral or just plain logistical approach to the world in your eyes? really?
where suburbs never developed, where cities remained small and compact, where we retained strong investment in our national rail and trolley infrastructure, you would have something valid to say about biking
but the automobile came and completely transformed our communities and how we live our lives. for the better? for the worse? doesn't matter. it's what happened. irreversibly
so now we are tasked with getting off oil and coal in the least painful way possible
oh sure, people will start biking more if gas goes to say, $100 gallon. but this is not an option for many people: the old, the out of shape, those who live in places that are very hot or cold, places that are very hilly, those who live 30 miles from their job, etc. that which works for the 25 year old marathon runner is not an option for most of us
of course the next step then is to see development patterns abandon the far flung suburbs model if energy sources remain difficult. but changing our lifestyles will take decades. it took decades to put us all in the suburbs, dependent on the car
but we just aren't going to abaondon the suburbs. people like their big houses, they don't like small cramped apartments. what will happen instead is people will simply use electric cars, and continue living in the suburbs. because when faced with the choice between:
1. abandoning the big house in the suburbs for a small city apartment and a bike on cold rainy days/ hot stifling days 2. using an electric car instead
people are going to pick #2, 99.9999% of the time
your doomsday scenario of everyone on bikes is just not going to happen. its not beijing, 1970. sorry to burst your fantasy bubble
i guess the contradictions in the terms communist and muslim escapes the average wackjob... but when you are just stringing together negative terms to connote an Enemy of the United States (trademark), you can't be picky
i guess we can go with fascist communist terrorist muslim then?
too much? sorry, its so hard to keep track of nowadays, the shocking crimes of barack obama. i mean, he wasn't even born in the usa. and when are they finally going to reveal obama's sordid past as a pedophile priest? its all a conspiracy of the liberal media that the truth is kept from us. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT!
i am all for getting off oil and coal, but biking? composting? really?
not going to happen dude. perhaps if you had mentioned more trains, more mass transport, ok. but you are asking people to exert a lot of effort. you realize that, right? you want some office worker to bike 10 miles a day? really? are you serious?
what you are asking for is never going to happen. meanwhile, something like an electric car really doesn't change their lifestyle at all. you can't ask people to drastically change their lifestyles, you just can't. if you don't understand why, you're way out of your league on these issues
don't ask people to bike more and compost more. you really are the environut this guy was talking about if you honestly believe those are valid solutions to our problems. boking more: just not going to happen
but all of the downside, including what you listed above, is not as big a downside as that of oil and coal
environment: we pollute our air geopolitics: we fund our enemies
those two take the cake when compared to nuclear and electric being "messy" and all the other minor issues you list. especially regarding nuclear: lookup pebble bed reactors. we can get 10x the amount of energy out of uranium, and thorium, and produce 1/10th the waste that lasts 2 centuries rather than 10,000 years. nuclear is a no-brainer. the french and japanese have been doing it for decades, deriving most of their energy from nuclear
the french and japanese need to show the way to americans who, like you, seem to suffer from tunnel vision. it doesn't have to be oil and coal. we are using a suboptimal source for our energy needs. all of the downside to nuclear and electric do not stack up as much as the downside of oil and coal
and then we really need to master fusion, in a century, at least. because oil and coal sources are just going to get deeper and more expensive, and uranium and thorium sources aren't going to last forever either
we have to move beyond coal and oil, for all of the obvious environmental and geopolitical reasons. we can't keep dumping carbon into our atmosphere, we can't keep funding saudi wahabbism, russian neoimperialism, and venezuelan blowhards. the only we are going to do this is through science
so hopefully, we'll get the following out of washington dc:
1. more nuclear power plants 2. more funding for fusion research 3. now that we have nationalized the car industry, we put a gun to the heads of the fuckers and detroit and force them to make more, cheaper electric cars. force this on them as a priority 4. the infrastructure to allow for battery swapping nationwide
of course, the american consumer has to be dragged kicking and screaming out of his SUV and into a post-oil and coal future. so be it. the only person who is going to be the visionary to do this is a scientist. he has plenty of support in his bully pulpit role from those of us who "get it". we finally just elected an administration it seems that also gets it
where it= oil and coal need to go the way of history
sniff the packets, we mask it as as form gets and posts
throttle our connection, we just download slower fractional pieces and assemble in alternative channels
a billion media hungry, poor, and, most importantly, technically astute young people. far more technically astute, far more numberous, and a lot more motivated than your hired tech guns. you can't pay someone to do well enough what we do for free from passion
go ahead, sue us. if you can find us. go ahead, bankrupt some poor dumb college kids. like those you catch are anything but dumband clueless. go ahead, reap the bad pr. nothing stops, full steam ahead
game on, ignorant dinosaurs. its the extinction of your outmoded business models and your laws based on philosophies from the 1800s understanding of media
whether your realize it, or fight it, or whatever, you lose, no matter what you do. you just don't know it yet
1. escaped content is rare 2. client side xslt support is marginal
1. ask anyone who has dabbled in xslt in the browser, and they find out very quickly that firefox's pledge to not support d-o-e is an instant stumbling block, because your essential error is not seeing that serving and transforming escaped content is regular and usual, not weird and strange. and then you find out firefox's reason for not supporting d-o-e is willfull, and you get very angry at firefox, because firefox doesn't understand what programmers want and need, and where the future is
the idea is to keep firefox on top of all other browsers, and the choice made on d-o-e puts firefox at the back of the pack on a crucial function. your point about an extra processing step costing time is 100% true, but it is not the esoteric odd support that you suppose it is. making people using xslt in the browser without any need for d-o-e grind more cycles is PREFERABLE, because their use cases are the MINORITY of use cases. right now you are actually penalizing the MAJORITY of xslt implementers because the need for d-o-e represents the MAJORITY of use cases. this is your essential misjudgment, that not supporting d-o-e speeds up browsing for the majority of users. no, it slows it down
2. "We could remove our XSLT support tomorrow, and fewer pages would break than broke when we stopped allowing them to read the full filepath from a file input...."
absolutely true. except, ironically, for exactly the same high minded appeal to elegant concise code that moves firefox to not support d-o-e, xslt client side support is the future
there once was a time when i could have said "We could remove our CSS support tomorrow, and fewer pages would break than broke when we stopped allowing them to read the full filepath from a file input...."
not true anymore, for all of the obvious observations about style and content you already understand, obvious observations that also apply 100% to XSLT support on the client, in some better future we are inexorably moving towards
so why does firefox support XSLT at all? because firefox wants to remain relevant and on top of the marketplace. someday, someone is going to support XSLT 2.0 in the browser too, and, just as you note "We could remove our XSLT 2.0 support tomorrow, and fewer pages would break than broke when we stopped allowing them to read the full filepath from a file input...."
but again, that's not the point, because the point is where are browsers going in terms of the next intelligent step in the browser model?
now make believe it is 1998
"what is this css thing i keep hearing about?"
{enter search term "CSS" in altavista, read a geocities page on the topic...}
"oh! i get it! let me try... hmmm, netscape supports this css whizzbang gadget just fine. but fucking msie 4.0... hmmm... it says here that msie is refusing to support:hover and other pseudoclasses because they say this adds an extra processing step in their css processing model, and very few people support css, and very few people need pseudoclasses, because if you write 'good' code you handle dynamic page tweaks with javascript, that's what javascript is for, and so you don't need css pseudoclasses (sniff, sniff... looks down nose)"
for values of "small minority" that are actually the "large majority"
d-o-e is the STATUS QUO
(smacks forehead)
you know, we could be having the exact same conversation right now about innerHTML
can you describe to me why firefox caved on innerHTML?
if you can articulte that reason, then you've just articulated the SAME EXACT FUCKING REASON firefox should cave on d-o-e
or not
and i will continue to hate firefox every time i have to browser sniff (as ugly as that is) and write extra javascript to serialize the content, and replace(/</gi,"").replace(/"/gi,"\"").replace(/'/gi,"\'").replace(/&/gi,"&"), and turn back into a nodetree
what was that you were saying about significantly slowing down the process by inserting extra steps?
seriously, do you know what people do with fucking browsers? what kind of content is transferred? opera, msie, safari, chrome... they all seem to know. ITS NOT THE VIRTUOUS MODEL YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE. you really want to stick with this ivory tower approach about how people should process content rather than how they actually HAVE to?
you really can't imagine that the majority of content that has to pass through xslt processing has escaped content? that really is an alien concept to you?
there's a town in upstate new york called fishkill
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as in kill, the dutch word for creek. so the town's name is basically fishcreek
the mayor of fishkill got a letter from PETA demanding the town's name be changed because it is cruel. i think the mayor framed the letter and mounted it on his wall
where do people get this ridiculous chutzpah?
i hereby demand no one use the word "you" in a critical sentence. because sometimes people call me "you", and i wouldn't want the confusion to lead to people believing i deserve to be criticized
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when faced with the same mornic stupidity, i'm supposed to think up a new and novel response every time?
no. if i am faced with a repeat moronic point of view, i will regurgitate the boilerplate response which shuts the moron down
every single piece of idiocy deserves its own detailed and original unravelling?
no, it deserves the standardized smackdown
nothing wrong with that in the least
what are you babbling about logic about? the european countries ARE democracies
it's impossible to be socialist and a democracy at the same time? the usa ALREADY IS SOCIALIST: medicare, social security
what the hell about socialism gives you conniption fits?
can you ligcally explain to me why something like universla healthcare counteracts representational democracy?
no, you can't
stop babbling about logic, you have none
even the founder of greenpeace is for nuclear power now
a REAL environmentalist understands that coal is far more damaging to the environment than nuclear is, even with 10 more chernobyls
actually, i remember seeing a special on tv about chernobyl as it is today, and how it is a wildlife paradise
so perhaps a real environmentalist militant worthy of their greenpeace stripes would go around sabotaging nuclear power plants to create human free wildlife zones?
pencil < pen < sliderule < calculator < computer < supercomputer < pencil
there's people who can also drive 90 mph all the time and never get in an accident
i don't know what such oddballs are supposed to teach us about the average human abilities though, to manage the standard human biochemical response to a highly addictive substance
the american model is broken. you compare our lifestyles and what we worry about with say, the danish. now the danish are taxed at ridiculous rates. but they also gets weeks off every year from work. they never have to worry about their healthcare. you ever fought with an hmo over what is covered or not?
to pay for healthcare on your own, you are putting yourself in effectively the same tax bracket as the danish anyways. so the only difference then is the danish get worry free peace of mind, and we get to fight with hmos. its fucking stupid
and surveys show the danish are happier than americans. universal healthcare is such a no brainer. i can't fathom the stupidity of those in the usa that oppose it
socialism is superior to the american model. it really, really is. ok, we get lower taxes. but that just means we have to go buy on our own what is covered anyways in socialist societies. america has better healthcare? partially: better CRISIS healthcare. but the socialist model has better PREVENTATIVE healthcare. in other words, if i have a heart attack, i'd rather be in an american hosptial than a european one. but in the european hospital, i wouldn't get the heart attack in the first place!
the moon is made of cheese
clearly, the young earth was lactose intolerant, and ejected it for that reason
the problem is all infants can digest lactose, and lose the lactase enzyme ability later in life if they don't have the right genes
but all theories have holes in them
like swiss cheese!
not that lithium is abundant, nor cheap to get, but nor is coal or oil getting cheaper
nor is uranium and thorium, while we're at it
and yet we need to upgrade to nuclear, like france japan, in order to save our environment and stop funding our enemies. and then we need to figure out fusion, or we really are doomed
looking at the larger picture, how expensive is that lithium battery, really?
everyone on bikes
good luck with that
a number of negativities with being american that are, in fact, just negativities with being human. for example, obsession with celebrities. this is a worldwide phenomenon, not an american one. furthermore, try talking about nazism or scientology or certain islamic practices in france or great britain or germany. i think that you find your rights to free speech and being spied upon are just as bad, if not worse, than any curtailments on your free speech in the usa
certainly, much is wrong with the usa. but much is also wrong with europe. on a number of issues, there are pluses and minuses to living her or there. however, one feature does pop up in my mind: socialized medicine. the usa needs universal healthcare. it is a national shame that we do not, and that we are held hostage to some really frigne fools and their idiotic philosophies about why universal healthcare is wrong
you think some sort of agrarian utopia of everyone on bikes is superior? this is proof common sense has absolutely nothing to do with your thought processes. no, common sense says we simply modify our energy sources. we go nuclear, and we master fusion eventually (if we don't do that we ARE going to all be on bikes in a century or two)
the only future is more and more energy use. you seem to have this idea in your head that living large is wrong. no, the story of progress is more and more riches and energy use for everyone. we get temporary setbacks, certainly, but the only way to say your approach is superior is to abandon the notion of progress
everyone on bikes is akin to agrarian communist fantasies of everyone becoming farmers again. should we stop using lightbulbs too? candles? you're insane. its just not going to happen, it isn't superior, and to think everyone bikes is superior in any scenario is proof that common sense has nothing to do with you
a civil engineer, an electrical engineer, and a mechanical engineer were debating what kind of engineer god was
the mechanical engineer spoke first: "god is obviously a mechanical engineer. just look at the marvelous ballet of muscles and bones"
the electrical engineer chimed in: "no, no, no. how can you not marvel at the nerves and the brain? those miraculous electrical engineering feats?"
finally the civil engineer chimed in: "sorry to break it to you guys, but god was obviously a civil engineer. who else would run liquid and solid waste facilities right through a recreational area?"
i suppose social darwinism is superior?
if a guy breaks his arm and is out of a job, what do you do? let him starve?
no, as a society you give him the healthcare he needs until he is back on his feet. are there those who abuse the system? welfare cheats? yes. so you find them and punish them
but because soomeone tries to cheat the system you'd prefer a world where society just lets people starve for the sake of setbacks in their life? setbacks we all suffer, including you?
where do you derive your support? are you very rich? do you have a lot of strong family ties? good for you! so someone who iw poor or has no family ties deserves to starve in the street? this is a superior moral or just plain logistical approach to the world in your eyes? really?
socialism is superior. wake up america
where suburbs never developed, where cities remained small and compact, where we retained strong investment in our national rail and trolley infrastructure, you would have something valid to say about biking
but the automobile came and completely transformed our communities and how we live our lives. for the better? for the worse? doesn't matter. it's what happened. irreversibly
so now we are tasked with getting off oil and coal in the least painful way possible
oh sure, people will start biking more if gas goes to say, $100 gallon. but this is not an option for many people: the old, the out of shape, those who live in places that are very hot or cold, places that are very hilly, those who live 30 miles from their job, etc. that which works for the 25 year old marathon runner is not an option for most of us
of course the next step then is to see development patterns abandon the far flung suburbs model if energy sources remain difficult. but changing our lifestyles will take decades. it took decades to put us all in the suburbs, dependent on the car
but we just aren't going to abaondon the suburbs. people like their big houses, they don't like small cramped apartments. what will happen instead is people will simply use electric cars, and continue living in the suburbs. because when faced with the choice between:
1. abandoning the big house in the suburbs for a small city apartment and a bike on cold rainy days/ hot stifling days
2. using an electric car instead
people are going to pick #2, 99.9999% of the time
your doomsday scenario of everyone on bikes is just not going to happen. its not beijing, 1970. sorry to burst your fantasy bubble
i thought obama was a communist muslim
i guess the contradictions in the terms communist and muslim escapes the average wackjob... but when you are just stringing together negative terms to connote an Enemy of the United States (trademark), you can't be picky
i guess we can go with fascist communist terrorist muslim then?
too much? sorry, its so hard to keep track of nowadays, the shocking crimes of barack obama. i mean, he wasn't even born in the usa. and when are they finally going to reveal obama's sordid past as a pedophile priest? its all a conspiracy of the liberal media that the truth is kept from us. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT!
zzz
i am all for getting off oil and coal, but biking? composting? really?
not going to happen dude. perhaps if you had mentioned more trains, more mass transport, ok. but you are asking people to exert a lot of effort. you realize that, right? you want some office worker to bike 10 miles a day? really? are you serious?
what you are asking for is never going to happen. meanwhile, something like an electric car really doesn't change their lifestyle at all. you can't ask people to drastically change their lifestyles, you just can't. if you don't understand why, you're way out of your league on these issues
don't ask people to bike more and compost more. you really are the environut this guy was talking about if you honestly believe those are valid solutions to our problems. boking more: just not going to happen
but all of the downside, including what you listed above, is not as big a downside as that of oil and coal
environment: we pollute our air
geopolitics: we fund our enemies
those two take the cake when compared to nuclear and electric being "messy" and all the other minor issues you list. especially regarding nuclear: lookup pebble bed reactors. we can get 10x the amount of energy out of uranium, and thorium, and produce 1/10th the waste that lasts 2 centuries rather than 10,000 years. nuclear is a no-brainer. the french and japanese have been doing it for decades, deriving most of their energy from nuclear
the french and japanese need to show the way to americans who, like you, seem to suffer from tunnel vision. it doesn't have to be oil and coal. we are using a suboptimal source for our energy needs. all of the downside to nuclear and electric do not stack up as much as the downside of oil and coal
and then we really need to master fusion, in a century, at least. because oil and coal sources are just going to get deeper and more expensive, and uranium and thorium sources aren't going to last forever either
we have to move beyond coal and oil, for all of the obvious environmental and geopolitical reasons. we can't keep dumping carbon into our atmosphere, we can't keep funding saudi wahabbism, russian neoimperialism, and venezuelan blowhards. the only we are going to do this is through science
so hopefully, we'll get the following out of washington dc:
1. more nuclear power plants
2. more funding for fusion research
3. now that we have nationalized the car industry, we put a gun to the heads of the fuckers and detroit and force them to make more, cheaper electric cars. force this on them as a priority
4. the infrastructure to allow for battery swapping nationwide
of course, the american consumer has to be dragged kicking and screaming out of his SUV and into a post-oil and coal future. so be it. the only person who is going to be the visionary to do this is a scientist. he has plenty of support in his bully pulpit role from those of us who "get it". we finally just elected an administration it seems that also gets it
where it= oil and coal need to go the way of history
is weak
bureacracy is just damage to route around
block the servers, we make it p2p
block the ports, we make it http
sniff the packets, we mask it as as form gets and posts
throttle our connection, we just download slower fractional pieces and assemble in alternative channels
a billion media hungry, poor, and, most importantly, technically astute young people. far more technically astute, far more numberous, and a lot more motivated than your hired tech guns. you can't pay someone to do well enough what we do for free from passion
go ahead, sue us. if you can find us. go ahead, bankrupt some poor dumb college kids. like those you catch are anything but dumband clueless. go ahead, reap the bad pr. nothing stops, full steam ahead
game on, ignorant dinosaurs. its the extinction of your outmoded business models and your laws based on philosophies from the 1800s understanding of media
whether your realize it, or fight it, or whatever, you lose, no matter what you do. you just don't know it yet
its like shortly before wed 2.0, and you're saying xmlhttprequest doesn't need to support both get and post
show some imagination of where the future is going
a further abstraction, like css represented
thats xslt in the browser
mark my words here, you'll see ;-)
1. escaped content is rare
2. client side xslt support is marginal
1. ask anyone who has dabbled in xslt in the browser, and they find out very quickly that firefox's pledge to not support d-o-e is an instant stumbling block, because your essential error is not seeing that serving and transforming escaped content is regular and usual, not weird and strange. and then you find out firefox's reason for not supporting d-o-e is willfull, and you get very angry at firefox, because firefox doesn't understand what programmers want and need, and where the future is
the idea is to keep firefox on top of all other browsers, and the choice made on d-o-e puts firefox at the back of the pack on a crucial function. your point about an extra processing step costing time is 100% true, but it is not the esoteric odd support that you suppose it is. making people using xslt in the browser without any need for d-o-e grind more cycles is PREFERABLE, because their use cases are the MINORITY of use cases. right now you are actually penalizing the MAJORITY of xslt implementers because the need for d-o-e represents the MAJORITY of use cases. this is your essential misjudgment, that not supporting d-o-e speeds up browsing for the majority of users. no, it slows it down
2. "We could remove our XSLT support tomorrow, and fewer pages would break than broke when we stopped allowing them to read the full filepath from a file input...."
absolutely true. except, ironically, for exactly the same high minded appeal to elegant concise code that moves firefox to not support d-o-e, xslt client side support is the future
there once was a time when i could have said "We could remove our CSS support tomorrow, and fewer pages would break than broke when we stopped allowing them to read the full filepath from a file input...."
not true anymore, for all of the obvious observations about style and content you already understand, obvious observations that also apply 100% to XSLT support on the client, in some better future we are inexorably moving towards
so why does firefox support XSLT at all? because firefox wants to remain relevant and on top of the marketplace. someday, someone is going to support XSLT 2.0 in the browser too, and, just as you note "We could remove our XSLT 2.0 support tomorrow, and fewer pages would break than broke when we stopped allowing them to read the full filepath from a file input...."
but again, that's not the point, because the point is where are browsers going in terms of the next intelligent step in the browser model?
now make believe it is 1998
"what is this css thing i keep hearing about?"
{enter search term "CSS" in altavista, read a geocities page on the topic...}
"oh! i get it! let me try... hmmm, netscape supports this css whizzbang gadget just fine. but fucking msie 4.0... hmmm... it says here that msie is refusing to support :hover and other pseudoclasses because they say this adds an extra processing step in their css processing model, and very few people support css, and very few people need pseudoclasses, because if you write 'good' code you handle dynamic page tweaks with javascript, that's what javascript is for, and so you don't need css pseudoclasses (sniff, sniff... looks down nose)"
{face turns purple with rage}
neither the joker nor rachael ray can get a driver's license
is it just me or does her mouth weird anyone else out? it extends beyond natural dimensions into a creepy permanent smile
for values of "small minority" that are actually the "large majority"
d-o-e is the STATUS QUO
(smacks forehead)
you know, we could be having the exact same conversation right now about innerHTML
can you describe to me why firefox caved on innerHTML?
if you can articulte that reason, then you've just articulated the SAME EXACT FUCKING REASON firefox should cave on d-o-e
or not
and i will continue to hate firefox every time i have to browser sniff (as ugly as that is) and write extra javascript to serialize the content, and replace(/</gi,"").replace(/"/gi,"\"").replace(/'/gi,"\'").replace(/&/gi,"&"), and turn back into a nodetree
what was that you were saying about significantly slowing down the process by inserting extra steps?
seriously, do you know what people do with fucking browsers? what kind of content is transferred? opera, msie, safari, chrome... they all seem to know. ITS NOT THE VIRTUOUS MODEL YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE. you really want to stick with this ivory tower approach about how people should process content rather than how they actually HAVE to?
you really can't imagine that the majority of content that has to pass through xslt processing has escaped content? that really is an alien concept to you?
as in kill, the dutch word for creek. so the town's name is basically fishcreek
the mayor of fishkill got a letter from PETA demanding the town's name be changed because it is cruel. i think the mayor framed the letter and mounted it on his wall
where do people get this ridiculous chutzpah?
i hereby demand no one use the word "you" in a critical sentence. because sometimes people call me "you", and i wouldn't want the confusion to lead to people believing i deserve to be criticized