should subside by now, and we should all be sobered by the fact that yes, there's water on mars, but only in the same way that yes, there's gold on earth: its rare and fleeting
but you don't paint a picture of what a "capable" computer programmer is like
what you paint a picture of is a frustrated fragile mess. if you were truly CAPABLE, you would be able to HANDLE the messes you encounter. your definition of capability excludes an extremely important skillset you obviously are woefully substandard on
when you are a programmer, you have to work on a team. the programming is difficult enough. you also have to successfully navigate the various bullshit you get from your fellow programmers without creating more problems with a poor attitude, or even worse, getting so full of anger you become a ticking time bomb of impotent rage
furthermore, encountering substandard bullshit is not your personal cross to bear. everyone, EVERYONE in their life encounters mediocrity, in every field. they are able to deal with the bullshit of mediocrity. why not you? is the proper response to scream and moan like a toddler who doesn't get their toy when you see a mess? that's you, asswipe, a toddler: a child unable to deal with their environment as an adult. THAT'S YOU. you fail. you are a substandard programmer on that measure
personal mental hygiene is valuable skillset for a programmer. you have none. you are just as substandard as the programmers whose technical failures you despise, and just as toxic to getting things done. your a terror to work with. a passive aggressive festering bunghole who everyone must avoid, not an asset, a fount of wisdom people feel glad to turn to for advice
the ones who stay at the top, as opposed to the ones who burn out, bitter, disappointed, and despised, are the ones who can keep it in perspective, and understand that this horrible you mess you see is not some sort of temporary situation, but a standard one, across all professions, in all time periods, and going forward, forever. mediocrity is a huge part of the human condition. learn to accept that, or know nothing about your life and your profession
get USED to it. deal with it. learn so it doesn't get to you SO FUCKING EASILY
you obviously are not someone who is going to stay at the top. you're a burn out waiting to happen. go, program like a hermit, don't leave your basement, refrain from social contact. that is your fate, because your mental hygiene is zero. you've allowed yourself to become a festering bunghole of rage
you are solely responsible for how rotten and miserable your life is, because your attitude sucks. you can derive pleasure from being someone people go to for help. rather than a fixer who cleans up messes in a blind rage. it's how you appraoch what is rewarding in your field. currently, you simply apply pleasure from being a fucking know-it-all, damn the others around you. ok, you're so fucking smart. so if you're so fucking smart, how come you're such a mess? not so smart after all. your attitude is not the responsibility of the rejects you have encountered and their rotten code. it is YOUR failure
fix yourself, asswipe. you are worse than 10 of the pathetic programmers you describe. i really, sincerely mean that. your attitude is more toxic to the health of a project than their poor programming skills
we must preserve computer science as a bastion of holier-than-thou ego junkies who fill the void in their lives with a constant need to primp their supposed technical superiority
dude: the only thing worse than an incompetent programmer is a competent programmer who thinks sunlight shines out of his ass. your attitude sucks
i'd much rather deal with a humble computer idiot on my team than a preening egomaniac like yourself, no matter how good you can program
adjust your ego, please. it makes you suck worse than the "tards" you look down on, jackass
when i look both ways before crossing the street i'm a fear addled twit
when i lock my car doors at night i'm a hysterical fruitcake
when i do anything prudent and obvious to protect myself or my children, i'm a fool
clearly, i must be hit by a car, how else will i learn? nobody ever has their gps stolen, what kind of fearmonger am i? and my children should be raped by a 40 year old excon, how will they be able to stand against rape themselves without first experiencing it? and even so, nobody ever takes advantage of children sexually, it's the same chance as getting hit by meteor
its a two pronged fight. even if you somehow convinced me, philosophically, that fighting only supply was the way to go, i would get right back at you by saying that destroying the demand is an effective tactic to use in fighting the supply. besides, its also a good way of finding the supply
any effort that focuses only on the supply, or only on the demand, is hamstrung
but i need to put the porn somewhere, so i buy a hard drive. the amount of pron i have now, would have cost me $5,000 in hard drives 10 years ago. today? $50
because the technology gets better and better
10 years ago, i used ethernet. now i use giganet. 10 years ago i was dial up. now i am cable modem. the technology gets better and better. capacity increases as a natural factor of better technology and economies of scale
korea, japan, other countries: they have plenty of capacity, more than the usa, and i don't see them crying for limits on the type of network traffic they must support. and so, if the usa does throttle traffic, the next killer apps, the next centers of technological innovation, will move overseas
stop believing and selling the lie that the only solution to increasing traffic is to push back at the type of traffic clients are using. you have the technology, you have the money. spend it, and build it, and shut the fuck up
push back on your customers, and you are simply creating a desire that your competitor will fulfill instead of you. that is if you haven't throttled your competitors by buying the legislators and making competition burdensome, thereby punishing the entire nation with technological backwardness for your own tightwad lack of foresight
the future of the internet is higher and higher capacity, for better and more advanced products, and if you don't fucking build it, someone else will
and if you pervert the business environment with cronyism legislation, so there is no competition, then it will be built in other countries, and the usa will become technologically backwards because of YOU
so shut the fuck up, take the money we pay you, AND BUILD IT
so let's make believe you could separate all boxes in the internet as either server or client
you still need to allow something upstream (filling out forms, emailing)
then its just a matter of p2p traffic masquerading as allowed two-way protocols
sure the network providers can put more complicated filters in, but its a simple arms race, and p2p developers will merely obfuscate better
you can throttle upstream taffic, sure. so i'll get my bootleg movie in 8 days, not 8 hours
what else? outlaw encryption? so no one can use their bank online anymore?
network providers: you will spend more money enforcing a p2p ban than if you just did your fucking job: provide your customers with access to something you don't control, and never can, due to the nature of the web, and shut the fuck up
is there some horrible scarcity of fibre? is the network clogged?
then take some of the money we fucking pay you, and lay some more fibre, assholes
i don't think you are going to find much support for this textbook on slashdot
however, what you will find is a lot "hear, hear" and then... nothing. or worse, cynicism
there's a lot of issues in this world where all you can do is whine and bitch and moan, and are otherwise helpless to effect change. this is not one of those issues
ALL of these creationist initiatives are happening on state and local levels. you CAN do something about it if you live in one of these areas
if you do live in an area creationists are making headway, do something about it, please. if for nothing than else than simple civic pride, that the residents of your {state/ town} are not all ignorant buffoons, that some of you actually understand the value of a critical mind, and even more importantly, understand the value of an involved electorate and citizens active for causes they believe in
how is it possible that such idiots can get creationism in our schools? because THEY GET INVOLVED
there are too many voices here on slashdot that will speak loudly about right and wrong, and never actually get involved to make sure their government stands up for that
please, do not feed me the standard psychological lines of learned helplessness that convinces you you can effect no change on this issue or that issue. on creationism, on a state and local level, you CAN do something about this. you SHOULD do something about this. DO IT
the ability to go anywhere, and have 50 men lined up at your front door within a week waiting to have sex with an underage child
this is not sufficient evidence for you to allow that parents attempting to protect their children from online predators is meing realist and prudent. no , they have to be hysteircal overprotective twits to want to do that, right?
hey you got me: being overprotective is bad for kids. rape is good for children, it teaches them about the real world
(smacks forehead)
being diplomatic has never been my strong suit: you sir, are a grade AAA fucking moron
of my fellow workers here on the farm collective lean monarchist theocrat, while my former unit in military intelligence leaned green anarchist. but hey, that could just be me
the balance is a gray area that a lot of people have a lot of different opinions on. but there are some clear and obvious areas of society you do not want your kids exposed to
especially with regards to sex, because there are adults out there who will prey on children for sex
this is not overprotectionism, this is not hysteria, this is not fear. this is a real and valid concern: predators who will sexually abuse children. they exist, and they are not rare
and if you in any way belittle or doubt that concern, you are simply out of touch with reality
"As an example, I'd suggest the sad situation that Americans are completely unaware of having over 700 military bases on foreign soil, and an extensive geopolitical campaign involving economic foul play and trade strongarming, two overt foreign wars and multiple covert ops, all the while proclaiming patriotically the banner of democracy, and denying vehemently any accusations of empire."
plenty of americans are completely aware of all of that, and see no dissonance at all with the notion of democracy or not being an empire. they would assert you need to militaristically extend democracy, and all of what you observe is done with the enthusaistic approval of the foreign powers where the military is based. which is not empire, but cooperation, they would say
these people are called neocons
of course there are examples where the usa has snuffed out democracy in the name of fighting the ussr they would say. short term necessary strategic set back they would say
these are the true believers. every ideology has true believers. and these are the people you need to defeat, not the propagandized or the blind, whom you seem to be describing. entirely different set of people, for whom ideology means something entirely different
ideology is partisan kneejerk reaction for some, yes. but it also religious zealous fervor for another
for example, there are kids who have suicide bombed for osama bin laden that if you took them aside, were to somehow able to win their trust, and explain where bin laden has lied about the world they live in, they would reject the man and his ideology, and not suicide bomb
but then there is osama bin laden himself, whom if you explained the same things you explained to his follower, would not shudder in shock and ask for forgiveness and become a secular humanist. no, he would simply smile, and have an answer right back for you, explaining it all away, already aware of that which you think they are not aware of
that's not a blind spot. that's a true believer
i will assume you don't think democracy can be extended militaristically. am i to say that this ideology of yours is due to a blind spot? no, you have a rationale for that
plenty of americans will acknowledge every single criticism and factual historical item and present day status quo that you can fling at them, and they will still completely and utterly support the american behavior you despise, because these people are not blind or propagandized, but they are true believers who have already been exposed to those facts, and have already rationalized and incorporated them into their world view
defeating ideology you dislike lies not in a litany of facts or revealing of myserious blind spots. no, you defeat the ideology you dislike in the world by meeting their beliefs head on, and directly disputing their take on the world and the way it should be
for defeating true believers, its not about where we are, its about what we are moving to. dismantle their dream for the world: pandemocracy through empire. or islamic caliphate through jihad. don't throw lists of facts at them. true believers wil be completely unimpressed. they alrerady know what you think they don't
but i would reply to you, and that post, by saying: yes, 100% true
but if in reaction to that post you are filled with a dread and a burning urge to "do something about it", you don't get it
that post describes an unchanging reality of the human condition, and your job is to simply accept it and make peace with the observation. because any "cure" you could EVER dream up is worse than the problem
"Why do I need to be afraid of the great grim spectre of Terrorism."
just make believe, for a moment, that what is motivating my words is not fear. just reach into the limits of your imagination and make beleive there is someone who can say what i am saying, and yet they are not actually afraid of anything
can you do that twatstain?
good, then you can begin to actually address what i am actually fucking saying, for the first fucking time
"The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand (did you even know his name) was the catalyst not the cause, a spark in a room full of petrol, it was bound to happen"
oh, ok and bombing the wtc led to the invasion of iraq. there's your spark in a room full of petrol, moron (smacks forehead). you realize this one sentence of yours completely nullifies everything you said before that, right? and by saying that, you've completely validated what i am saying, right?
you understand exactly the threat terrorists pose. you articulate the threat in your own words. you understand exactly what i was getting at when i brought up the allegory of sarajevo 1914. benzair bhutto. waziristan. the bombing of the islamabad marriot last week. none of this concerns you? none of this smells like sparks, in a room full of petrol. nuclear pakistan? doesn't concern you at all? you have to be a sweat-dripping ball of fear to even concern yourself with this situation? you can't simply be intelligent and care about the world you live in?
try to close the loop in your mind, between your own ball of contradictions in your own words, and get back to me, oh great swami
"Death is only important to the living. Once I am dead it doesnt matter how I got there, its not like I get to go back if I've done it correctly now is it?... It doesn't matter what I die from, it matters what I do when I am alive, you preach of intent, is not my intent more important to those I love or to me?"
oh man, thanks for the laugh, i love this kind of shit: "nothing matters, there's no point in caring about this... but i need to talk about it passionately"
LOL
nothing matters? ok. therefore, logically, you should shut the fuck up, and never even reply to me, right? it DOESN'T MATTER what some asshole in new york city spews on the web, right? i can sit here and say "bomb australia". i can commandeer the fifth fleet and sail to darwin and start shelling. doesn't matter, right? NOTHING MATTERS. no reason to intervene, to reply, to get involved, to lift a finger, right?
but wait a second
i didn't reply to you, you replied to me
in a whole shitstorm of mumbling contradictions. meaning what? YOU DO FUCKING CARE. so it DOES matter to you. another contradiction in your own words
here's some irony: a guy screaming at the top of his lungs he doesn't care (snicker)
so a bit of advice from me to you in order that you might grasp the rarified air of logical coherence for once in your moronic life: either 1. prove you don't care, and shut the fuck up. 2. admit you care, and keep talking. but replying to me in long winded passionate paragraphs proclaiming how much you don't care is the very definition of blind ignorance
"'blind ignorant provincial hick'
Now youre projecting. You want to see these qualities in me because they are the only way your arguments can hold merit. To the external observer this is not the case so you need to point them out and then attempt to draw attention to it, once again buy picking a label which is completely inappropriate you have only served to demonstrate your lack of understanding and alienate your audience (I doubt many others are reading this)."
no, it's because you are a blind ignorant provincial hick. no really, you are the genuine article
google could redefine a cucumber as a small nocturnal mammal, and the whole world would fall in line. google search is all of our collective recall. it's the 800 pound gorilla of the web. it can make any word mean anything they want it to
call it a "google mind trick"
World: Let us see Gmail move out of beta. Google: [with a small tweak of the spider] You don't need to see Gmail move out of beta. World: We don't need to Gmail move out of beta. Google: Beta does not have the meaning you think it has. World: Beta does not have the meaning I think it has. Google: You believe beta has a different meaning when applied to applications on the Web. World: I believe beta has a different meaning when applied to applications on the Web. Gmail: Move along. World: Move along... move along.
1. this observation is ideologically neutral. that is, it evens out in every ideological direction, such that no particular ideology is favored
2. this observation applies to everyone. this observation applies most of all to those of you who think you are immune to prejudice. that's you, reading these words. yes, you are guilty of this. how passionately you dispute the notion that you have prejudices is directly proportional to how prejudiced you are, blindly. meanwhile, if you start with the assumption that you prejudiced, you are better able to identify your prejudices in your thought processes, and work around them
3. this observation applies to all societies, in all cultures, in all time periods, including the future. in other words, make peace with the concept that ideology trumps facts. nothing you do will ever change that, it is a simple aspect of human nature. unless you seek to disrespect democracy and free will, and somehow "reeducate" people. which makes the cure worse than the disease
we are all prejudiced. individually, and as societies. so it is better to recognize your weaknesses and work around them than somehow fantasize it is possible to have no prejudices at all. the story summary is nothing more than the sound of someone shockingly realizing a truth about their world, and trying to come to grips with it
1. guy falls asleep behind wheel of a truck, plows into schoolbus, kills 10 kids, feels absolutely terrible about it
2. guy watches school bus route for months, carefully planning when to kill as many kids as possible, plows into schoolbus, only kills 5, wishes he killed more
you seem to be proposing that scenario 1 is worse than scenario 2, simple because more lives were taken, this is what you are angling for when you talk about electrical accidents and drunk drivers as being worse than terrorists. according to most, no all, codes of morality in this world, situation 2 is worse, because of a magic concept called intent. do you understand what "intent" means?
even far off exotic australia understands the difference between manslaughter and murder in their legal code. why don't you? so why do blather on about drunk drivers and electric switches? people concern themselves with the death of 10, if on purpose, rather than the death of 10,000 due to regular statistical inevitability. why? because of intent, oh great swami
oh but not you, right?
to people who actually think, human intent means something, something profound that you cannot grasp: were those same morons who blew up bombs in bali get their hands on something more serious, they would use it against australians, they would use it against the balinese, they would use it against americans, they would use it against thai, they would use it against timorese, they would use it against javanese who were not adequately religious. they would kill anyone outside their little bubble of religious bigotry. because they are religious bigots. who kill anyone who is subhuman. whewre subhuman = not a raging fundamentalist like them. do you dispute that? or are people who blow up resorts reasonable and kind in your determination?
why do these people concern me? is this fear motivating my words? you really think i am motivated by fear? ok, i'm hiding in my closet, quaking in fear. omg! terrorists! this is really me? or a cartoon in your mind?
what is really motivating my words is i understand some concepts, you don't even seem to be able to recognize: intent, determination, imagination, perseverance, passion. these guys have that, and they are only getting started. it took one ultranationalist with a gun on a sarajevo streetcorner in 1914 to start world war i. in which how many australians and kiwis died, by the way, if you are so concerned with nothing more than quantity of death? see, to someone who thinks, they recognize in the actions of terorrists a rationale, a desire, and a continuing effort to kill as many as possible. i don't see drunk drivers organizing in chat rooms to take out a maximum number of nondrunks, do you? so i concern myself with terrorists rather than drunks. this is fear? sounds like brains to me!
and you worry more about statistical inevitable electric accidents and car accidents. incredible! you are a blind fool. because you think quantity of death is more important than the intent that formed the death. because you mistake fear for dead reckoning. someone who appreciates exactly what is behind an intent, and gives it the respect it deserves, and appreciates the urgency to to fight and destroy that threat. a threat, that if unopposed will, through determination, will of force, take over, for example, pakistan. nuclear pakistan. which of course doesn't bother or concern you at all, right?
pffft. blind ignorant provincial hick
like i said, it must be nice off in yonder ivory tower in australia, far from the real threats in the world, happy to criticize, because no one really cares to fight over the antipodes, and bask in your feeling of superiority, a false sense, simply because you have nothing to gain or lose in the fight. you curl your lip in a sneer, peer out your ivory tower, and thinjk less of those struggling in the mud because they are muddy, struggling. you aren't sturggling at all. you are jus tlooking for a reason to feel superior
should subside by now, and we should all be sobered by the fact that yes, there's water on mars, but only in the same way that yes, there's gold on earth: its rare and fleeting
you want more capable computer programmers
ok, fine
but you don't paint a picture of what a "capable" computer programmer is like
what you paint a picture of is a frustrated fragile mess. if you were truly CAPABLE, you would be able to HANDLE the messes you encounter. your definition of capability excludes an extremely important skillset you obviously are woefully substandard on
when you are a programmer, you have to work on a team. the programming is difficult enough. you also have to successfully navigate the various bullshit you get from your fellow programmers without creating more problems with a poor attitude, or even worse, getting so full of anger you become a ticking time bomb of impotent rage
furthermore, encountering substandard bullshit is not your personal cross to bear. everyone, EVERYONE in their life encounters mediocrity, in every field. they are able to deal with the bullshit of mediocrity. why not you? is the proper response to scream and moan like a toddler who doesn't get their toy when you see a mess? that's you, asswipe, a toddler: a child unable to deal with their environment as an adult. THAT'S YOU. you fail. you are a substandard programmer on that measure
personal mental hygiene is valuable skillset for a programmer. you have none. you are just as substandard as the programmers whose technical failures you despise, and just as toxic to getting things done. your a terror to work with. a passive aggressive festering bunghole who everyone must avoid, not an asset, a fount of wisdom people feel glad to turn to for advice
the ones who stay at the top, as opposed to the ones who burn out, bitter, disappointed, and despised, are the ones who can keep it in perspective, and understand that this horrible you mess you see is not some sort of temporary situation, but a standard one, across all professions, in all time periods, and going forward, forever. mediocrity is a huge part of the human condition. learn to accept that, or know nothing about your life and your profession
get USED to it. deal with it. learn so it doesn't get to you SO FUCKING EASILY
you obviously are not someone who is going to stay at the top. you're a burn out waiting to happen. go, program like a hermit, don't leave your basement, refrain from social contact. that is your fate, because your mental hygiene is zero. you've allowed yourself to become a festering bunghole of rage
you are solely responsible for how rotten and miserable your life is, because your attitude sucks. you can derive pleasure from being someone people go to for help. rather than a fixer who cleans up messes in a blind rage. it's how you appraoch what is rewarding in your field. currently, you simply apply pleasure from being a fucking know-it-all, damn the others around you. ok, you're so fucking smart. so if you're so fucking smart, how come you're such a mess? not so smart after all. your attitude is not the responsibility of the rejects you have encountered and their rotten code. it is YOUR failure
fix yourself, asswipe. you are worse than 10 of the pathetic programmers you describe. i really, sincerely mean that. your attitude is more toxic to the health of a project than their poor programming skills
i want to be able to call my girlfriend and well, give her a buzz
i mean this thing is called android afer all, right?
we must preserve computer science as a bastion of holier-than-thou ego junkies who fill the void in their lives with a constant need to primp their supposed technical superiority
dude: the only thing worse than an incompetent programmer is a competent programmer who thinks sunlight shines out of his ass. your attitude sucks
i'd much rather deal with a humble computer idiot on my team than a preening egomaniac like yourself, no matter how good you can program
adjust your ego, please. it makes you suck worse than the "tards" you look down on, jackass
when i look both ways before crossing the street i'm a fear addled twit
when i lock my car doors at night i'm a hysterical fruitcake
when i do anything prudent and obvious to protect myself or my children, i'm a fool
clearly, i must be hit by a car, how else will i learn? nobody ever has their gps stolen, what kind of fearmonger am i? and my children should be raped by a 40 year old excon, how will they be able to stand against rape themselves without first experiencing it? and even so, nobody ever takes advantage of children sexually, it's the same chance as getting hit by meteor
its a two pronged fight. even if you somehow convinced me, philosophically, that fighting only supply was the way to go, i would get right back at you by saying that destroying the demand is an effective tactic to use in fighting the supply. besides, its also a good way of finding the supply
any effort that focuses only on the supply, or only on the demand, is hamstrung
but i need to put the porn somewhere, so i buy a hard drive. the amount of pron i have now, would have cost me $5,000 in hard drives 10 years ago. today? $50
because the technology gets better and better
10 years ago, i used ethernet. now i use giganet. 10 years ago i was dial up. now i am cable modem. the technology gets better and better. capacity increases as a natural factor of better technology and economies of scale
korea, japan, other countries: they have plenty of capacity, more than the usa, and i don't see them crying for limits on the type of network traffic they must support. and so, if the usa does throttle traffic, the next killer apps, the next centers of technological innovation, will move overseas
stop believing and selling the lie that the only solution to increasing traffic is to push back at the type of traffic clients are using. you have the technology, you have the money. spend it, and build it, and shut the fuck up
push back on your customers, and you are simply creating a desire that your competitor will fulfill instead of you. that is if you haven't throttled your competitors by buying the legislators and making competition burdensome, thereby punishing the entire nation with technological backwardness for your own tightwad lack of foresight
the future of the internet is higher and higher capacity, for better and more advanced products, and if you don't fucking build it, someone else will
and if you pervert the business environment with cronyism legislation, so there is no competition, then it will be built in other countries, and the usa will become technologically backwards because of YOU
so shut the fuck up, take the money we pay you, AND BUILD IT
so let's make believe you could separate all boxes in the internet as either server or client
you still need to allow something upstream (filling out forms, emailing)
then its just a matter of p2p traffic masquerading as allowed two-way protocols
sure the network providers can put more complicated filters in, but its a simple arms race, and p2p developers will merely obfuscate better
you can throttle upstream taffic, sure. so i'll get my bootleg movie in 8 days, not 8 hours
what else? outlaw encryption? so no one can use their bank online anymore?
network providers: you will spend more money enforcing a p2p ban than if you just did your fucking job: provide your customers with access to something you don't control, and never can, due to the nature of the web, and shut the fuck up
is there some horrible scarcity of fibre? is the network clogged?
then take some of the money we fucking pay you, and lay some more fibre, assholes
(pun intended)
i don't think you are going to find much support for this textbook on slashdot
however, what you will find is a lot "hear, hear" and then... nothing. or worse, cynicism
there's a lot of issues in this world where all you can do is whine and bitch and moan, and are otherwise helpless to effect change. this is not one of those issues
ALL of these creationist initiatives are happening on state and local levels. you CAN do something about it if you live in one of these areas
if you do live in an area creationists are making headway, do something about it, please. if for nothing than else than simple civic pride, that the residents of your {state/ town} are not all ignorant buffoons, that some of you actually understand the value of a critical mind, and even more importantly, understand the value of an involved electorate and citizens active for causes they believe in
how is it possible that such idiots can get creationism in our schools? because THEY GET INVOLVED
there are too many voices here on slashdot that will speak loudly about right and wrong, and never actually get involved to make sure their government stands up for that
please, do not feed me the standard psychological lines of learned helplessness that convinces you you can effect no change on this issue or that issue. on creationism, on a state and local level, you CAN do something about this. you SHOULD do something about this. DO IT
if not you, who?
that the belgians defeated the german blitzkrieg in world war ii with waffles
the feared waffen-ss was helpless before the onslaught of delicious belgian waffles. yes, you heard me right, waffling defeated wafflen
it is so like you neocon warmongering americans to deny that Pastry Promulgates Peace(tm)
the ability to go anywhere, and have 50 men lined up at your front door within a week waiting to have sex with an underage child
this is not sufficient evidence for you to allow that parents attempting to protect their children from online predators is meing realist and prudent. no , they have to be hysteircal overprotective twits to want to do that, right?
hey you got me: being overprotective is bad for kids. rape is good for children, it teaches them about the real world
(smacks forehead)
being diplomatic has never been my strong suit: you sir, are a grade AAA fucking moron
of my fellow workers here on the farm collective lean monarchist theocrat, while my former unit in military intelligence leaned green anarchist. but hey, that could just be me
anecdotes, shmanecdotes
for writing something that suggests the "think of the children" meme to you under a story entitled... drumroll... "Good Email For Kids?" (rolls eyes)
as for the prevalence rate of child predators, my name is chris hansen, and why don't you have a seat right over there
you can also underprotect
the balance is a gray area that a lot of people have a lot of different opinions on. but there are some clear and obvious areas of society you do not want your kids exposed to
especially with regards to sex, because there are adults out there who will prey on children for sex
this is not overprotectionism, this is not hysteria, this is not fear. this is a real and valid concern: predators who will sexually abuse children. they exist, and they are not rare
and if you in any way belittle or doubt that concern, you are simply out of touch with reality
what a great name for a porn site, a site named after lube
or, alternately, it's a great starting point for a kentucy tourism campaign: "there's a little ky in you"
this will give more time to sit around in front of the computer at home, playing video games
what's the over/ under on how many days before kentucky reverses itself?
and what site should i go to to get a piece of that action?
"As an example, I'd suggest the sad situation that Americans are completely unaware of having over 700 military bases on foreign soil, and an extensive geopolitical campaign involving economic foul play and trade strongarming, two overt foreign wars and multiple covert ops, all the while proclaiming patriotically the banner of democracy, and denying vehemently any accusations of empire."
plenty of americans are completely aware of all of that, and see no dissonance at all with the notion of democracy or not being an empire. they would assert you need to militaristically extend democracy, and all of what you observe is done with the enthusaistic approval of the foreign powers where the military is based. which is not empire, but cooperation, they would say
these people are called neocons
of course there are examples where the usa has snuffed out democracy in the name of fighting the ussr they would say. short term necessary strategic set back they would say
these are the true believers. every ideology has true believers. and these are the people you need to defeat, not the propagandized or the blind, whom you seem to be describing. entirely different set of people, for whom ideology means something entirely different
ideology is partisan kneejerk reaction for some, yes. but it also religious zealous fervor for another
for example, there are kids who have suicide bombed for osama bin laden that if you took them aside, were to somehow able to win their trust, and explain where bin laden has lied about the world they live in, they would reject the man and his ideology, and not suicide bomb
but then there is osama bin laden himself, whom if you explained the same things you explained to his follower, would not shudder in shock and ask for forgiveness and become a secular humanist. no, he would simply smile, and have an answer right back for you, explaining it all away, already aware of that which you think they are not aware of
that's not a blind spot. that's a true believer
i will assume you don't think democracy can be extended militaristically. am i to say that this ideology of yours is due to a blind spot? no, you have a rationale for that
plenty of americans will acknowledge every single criticism and factual historical item and present day status quo that you can fling at them, and they will still completely and utterly support the american behavior you despise, because these people are not blind or propagandized, but they are true believers who have already been exposed to those facts, and have already rationalized and incorporated them into their world view
defeating ideology you dislike lies not in a litany of facts or revealing of myserious blind spots. no, you defeat the ideology you dislike in the world by meeting their beliefs head on, and directly disputing their take on the world and the way it should be
for defeating true believers, its not about where we are, its about what we are moving to. dismantle their dream for the world: pandemocracy through empire. or islamic caliphate through jihad. don't throw lists of facts at them. true believers wil be completely unimpressed. they alrerady know what you think they don't
but i would reply to you, and that post, by saying: yes, 100% true
but if in reaction to that post you are filled with a dread and a burning urge to "do something about it", you don't get it
that post describes an unchanging reality of the human condition, and your job is to simply accept it and make peace with the observation. because any "cure" you could EVER dream up is worse than the problem
"Why do I need to be afraid of the great grim spectre of Terrorism."
just make believe, for a moment, that what is motivating my words is not fear. just reach into the limits of your imagination and make beleive there is someone who can say what i am saying, and yet they are not actually afraid of anything
can you do that twatstain?
good, then you can begin to actually address what i am actually fucking saying, for the first fucking time
"The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand (did you even know his name) was the catalyst not the cause, a spark in a room full of petrol, it was bound to happen"
oh, ok and bombing the wtc led to the invasion of iraq. there's your spark in a room full of petrol, moron (smacks forehead). you realize this one sentence of yours completely nullifies everything you said before that, right? and by saying that, you've completely validated what i am saying, right?
you understand exactly the threat terrorists pose. you articulate the threat in your own words. you understand exactly what i was getting at when i brought up the allegory of sarajevo 1914. benzair bhutto. waziristan. the bombing of the islamabad marriot last week. none of this concerns you? none of this smells like sparks, in a room full of petrol. nuclear pakistan? doesn't concern you at all? you have to be a sweat-dripping ball of fear to even concern yourself with this situation? you can't simply be intelligent and care about the world you live in?
try to close the loop in your mind, between your own ball of contradictions in your own words, and get back to me, oh great swami
"Death is only important to the living. Once I am dead it doesnt matter how I got there, its not like I get to go back if I've done it correctly now is it? ... It doesn't matter what I die from, it matters what I do when I am alive, you preach of intent, is not my intent more important to those I love or to me?"
oh man, thanks for the laugh, i love this kind of shit: "nothing matters, there's no point in caring about this... but i need to talk about it passionately"
LOL
nothing matters? ok. therefore, logically, you should shut the fuck up, and never even reply to me, right? it DOESN'T MATTER what some asshole in new york city spews on the web, right? i can sit here and say "bomb australia". i can commandeer the fifth fleet and sail to darwin and start shelling. doesn't matter, right? NOTHING MATTERS. no reason to intervene, to reply, to get involved, to lift a finger, right?
but wait a second
i didn't reply to you, you replied to me
in a whole shitstorm of mumbling contradictions. meaning what? YOU DO FUCKING CARE. so it DOES matter to you. another contradiction in your own words
here's some irony: a guy screaming at the top of his lungs he doesn't care (snicker)
so a bit of advice from me to you in order that you might grasp the rarified air of logical coherence for once in your moronic life: either 1. prove you don't care, and shut the fuck up. 2. admit you care, and keep talking. but replying to me in long winded passionate paragraphs proclaiming how much you don't care is the very definition of blind ignorance
"'blind ignorant provincial hick'
Now youre projecting. You want to see these qualities in me because they are the only way your arguments can hold merit. To the external observer this is not the case so you need to point them out and then attempt to draw attention to it, once again buy picking a label which is completely inappropriate you have only served to demonstrate your lack of understanding and alienate your audience (I doubt many others are reading this)."
no, it's because you are a blind ignorant provincial hick. no really, you are the genuine article
google could redefine a cucumber as a small nocturnal mammal, and the whole world would fall in line. google search is all of our collective recall. it's the 800 pound gorilla of the web. it can make any word mean anything they want it to
call it a "google mind trick"
World: Let us see Gmail move out of beta.
Google: [with a small tweak of the spider] You don't need to see Gmail move out of beta.
World: We don't need to Gmail move out of beta.
Google: Beta does not have the meaning you think it has.
World: Beta does not have the meaning I think it has.
Google: You believe beta has a different meaning when applied to applications on the Web.
World: I believe beta has a different meaning when applied to applications on the Web.
Gmail: Move along.
World: Move along... move along.
ideology trumps facts. ok. so what?
1. this observation is ideologically neutral. that is, it evens out in every ideological direction, such that no particular ideology is favored
2. this observation applies to everyone. this observation applies most of all to those of you who think you are immune to prejudice. that's you, reading these words. yes, you are guilty of this. how passionately you dispute the notion that you have prejudices is directly proportional to how prejudiced you are, blindly. meanwhile, if you start with the assumption that you prejudiced, you are better able to identify your prejudices in your thought processes, and work around them
3. this observation applies to all societies, in all cultures, in all time periods, including the future. in other words, make peace with the concept that ideology trumps facts. nothing you do will ever change that, it is a simple aspect of human nature. unless you seek to disrespect democracy and free will, and somehow "reeducate" people. which makes the cure worse than the disease
we are all prejudiced. individually, and as societies. so it is better to recognize your weaknesses and work around them than somehow fantasize it is possible to have no prejudices at all. the story summary is nothing more than the sound of someone shockingly realizing a truth about their world, and trying to come to grips with it
two scenarios
1. guy falls asleep behind wheel of a truck, plows into schoolbus, kills 10 kids, feels absolutely terrible about it
2. guy watches school bus route for months, carefully planning when to kill as many kids as possible, plows into schoolbus, only kills 5, wishes he killed more
you seem to be proposing that scenario 1 is worse than scenario 2, simple because more lives were taken, this is what you are angling for when you talk about electrical accidents and drunk drivers as being worse than terrorists. according to most, no all, codes of morality in this world, situation 2 is worse, because of a magic concept called intent. do you understand what "intent" means?
even far off exotic australia understands the difference between manslaughter and murder in their legal code. why don't you? so why do blather on about drunk drivers and electric switches? people concern themselves with the death of 10, if on purpose, rather than the death of 10,000 due to regular statistical inevitability. why? because of intent, oh great swami
oh but not you, right?
to people who actually think, human intent means something, something profound that you cannot grasp: were those same morons who blew up bombs in bali get their hands on something more serious, they would use it against australians, they would use it against the balinese, they would use it against americans, they would use it against thai, they would use it against timorese, they would use it against javanese who were not adequately religious. they would kill anyone outside their little bubble of religious bigotry. because they are religious bigots. who kill anyone who is subhuman. whewre subhuman = not a raging fundamentalist like them. do you dispute that? or are people who blow up resorts reasonable and kind in your determination?
why do these people concern me? is this fear motivating my words? you really think i am motivated by fear? ok, i'm hiding in my closet, quaking in fear. omg! terrorists! this is really me? or a cartoon in your mind?
what is really motivating my words is i understand some concepts, you don't even seem to be able to recognize: intent, determination, imagination, perseverance, passion. these guys have that, and they are only getting started. it took one ultranationalist with a gun on a sarajevo streetcorner in 1914 to start world war i. in which how many australians and kiwis died, by the way, if you are so concerned with nothing more than quantity of death? see, to someone who thinks, they recognize in the actions of terorrists a rationale, a desire, and a continuing effort to kill as many as possible. i don't see drunk drivers organizing in chat rooms to take out a maximum number of nondrunks, do you? so i concern myself with terrorists rather than drunks. this is fear? sounds like brains to me!
and you worry more about statistical inevitable electric accidents and car accidents. incredible! you are a blind fool. because you think quantity of death is more important than the intent that formed the death. because you mistake fear for dead reckoning. someone who appreciates exactly what is behind an intent, and gives it the respect it deserves, and appreciates the urgency to to fight and destroy that threat. a threat, that if unopposed will, through determination, will of force, take over, for example, pakistan. nuclear pakistan. which of course doesn't bother or concern you at all, right?
pffft. blind ignorant provincial hick
like i said, it must be nice off in yonder ivory tower in australia, far from the real threats in the world, happy to criticize, because no one really cares to fight over the antipodes, and bask in your feeling of superiority, a false sense, simply because you have nothing to gain or lose in the fight. you curl your lip in a sneer, peer out your ivory tower, and thinjk less of those struggling in the mud because they are muddy, struggling. you aren't sturggling at all. you are jus tlooking for a reason to feel superior
so why don't you go out in th
far form the heat of the situation, eager to criticize and take potshots
without actually risking anything yourself
oh, and enjoy your vacation in bali, because Evil Terrorists(tm) are obviously just a hollywood invention
(snicker)
Phobos Deimos would be a better rap name