like the geneva convention stopped atrocities in war? please
human rights watch writing a code of conduct won't convince china of anything. it won't change its ways. if american companies didn't help them, they'd get someone else to help them, or do it themselves
what's more important to you? helping human rights in china? or shaming american companies? the shaming of american companies should be put aside in pursuit of the larger more noble goal: getting free imformation to chinese citizens
how do you do that? writing a code of conduct? preventing china from using your expertise to build their firewall?
no and no
you defeat the great firewall of china with better guerilla apps. anyone who care about this issue should forget about shaming codes of conduct or shushing american companies that helped the technocrats in beijing
instead what you do is you build proxy servers, ip obfuscators, p2p web traffic redirectors, content caching, etc., etc.: you wage war with the great firewall with china, you smuggle content around it, you render all of the technocrat's efforts to screen what chinese citizens see fruitless and pointless and a joke
that's where you put your effort
shaming colluding american companies or writing well-intentioned but pointless codes of conduct means nothing. results mean something
get to writing those guerilla apps if you really care about this issue. shaming american companies or writing ivory tower codes of conduct is pointless if you really want to help regular chinese escape their hermetically sealed tomb of sanitized braindead propaganda
where "us" is your average american, the beneficiary of the spying, and "them" is your average islamofascist, the target of the spying
as long as that perception holds, your average american will support domestic spying
but of course, there is something called mission creep. much as we still pay tolls for bridges that were already paid for 10x over 50 years ago, once somethign is in place that benefits the goverment, it's not moving unless a really big push comes to shove
so unless stories come out about abuses of spying laws (and no, your average american does not view abuse as something that hurts someone seen as sympathetic to radical islam), where "us" versus "them" shifts in meaning to "us"=the agenda of someone in the government, and "them"=any average joe blow, these spying laws will be in place for a long time
that may take decades
as long as the government uses these powers shrewdly, and uses them only against those who most obviously have no interest in a tolerant society and the rights that should be used to protect them in the first place, your average american simply won't care. but what will happen is the government will not use these powers shrewdly, a scandal will happen where these powers are flagrantly abused, and the domestic spying laws will be reversed
so start looking for that scandal. it may take awhile
this is bottom up. if msnbc suddenly reports more on science in more amounts of time your average slashdotter finds acceptable, msnbc's ratings go down. believe me, if they went up, you'd see 20 minutes every hour of the day devoted to science on cnn, msnbc, and even fox
the real issue here then is that your average joe blow just doesn't care that much about science, not some sort of weird pact by cable news shows to keep everyone stupid
and to go further than that, many will see failure in society, in politics, because joe blow isn't so interested in things your average slashdotter is. well, that's your vanity speaking, not your intelligence. why is your science-centric viewpoint superior than the viewpoint of joe blow? what is your objective reason for believing that?
where is the objective measure that says someone massively interested in science would make a better citizen? many people here are certain of that idea, but plenty of people are also prejudiced to their own particular worldview and agenda. that's you i'm speaking to, you who sees little interest in science as a sort of travesty. it's not. it simply isn't. get over yourself
the truth is, just not that many people are interested in science, were interested science, or ever will be interested in science. in any time period, in any country. get used to it. the world does not revolve around your biases towards a lot of interest in science, so this idea that few people are interested in science is not in any way a bad thing, it's just the way it is, and you would be doing yourself a favor by simply accepting that and moving on, rather than crying into your milk about some sort of travesty that isn't really a travesty at all
did anyone else catch the blog in the new york times about the fenton photographs?
apparently this guy took some photos of some cannonballs in the crimean war that became famous as a poetic commentary on war. this documentary filmmaker, errol morris, has gone completely unhinged obsessive compulsive over whether or not the photos are fake and/ or manipulated. it's utterly fascinating, and a little weird, to see so much time and effort devoted to these photos. specifically, cannons and shadows. utterly esoteric and thorough. he also expands into the larger topic of the history of manipulated politically sensitive photos. makes for a good read, especially if you are interested in pre-photoshop image manipulation
Considered a pest in most of the United States, smut feeds off the corn plant and decreases the yield. Usually smut-infected crops are destroyed. However, in Mexico corn smut is called huitlacoche (IPA: [witakote], sometimes spelled cuitlacoche), a Nahuatl word reportedly meaning raven's excrement [1]. It is considered a delicacy, even being preserved and sold for a higher price than corn. For culinary use, the galls are harvested while still immature -- fully mature galls are dry and almost entirely spore-filled. The immature galls, gathered two to three weeks after an ear of corn is infected, still retain moisture and, when cooked, have a flavor described as mushroom-like, sweet, savory, woody, and earthy. Flavor compounds include sotolon and vanillin, as well as the sugar glucose.
Ergotism is the name for sometimes severe pathological syndromes affecting humans or animals that have ingested ergot alkaloid-containing plant material, such as ergot-contaminated grains. The common name for ergotism is "St. Anthony's fire", in reference to the symptoms, such as severe burning sensations in the limbs.[3] These are caused by effects of ergot alkaloids on the vascular system due to vasoconstriction of blood vessels, sometimes leading to gangrene and loss of limbs due to severely restricted blood circulation. The neurotropic activities of the ergot alkaloids may also cause hallucinations and attendant irrational behaviour, convulsions, and even death.[1][2] Other symptoms include strong uterine contractions, nausea, seizures, and unconsciousness. Historically, controlled doses of ergot were used to induce abortions and to stop maternal bleeding after childbirth. Ergot alkaloids are also used in products such as Cafergot (containing caffeine and ergotamine or ergoline) to treat migraine headaches. Simple ergot extract is no longer used as a pharmaceutical preparation.[citation needed] Monks of the order of St. Anthony the Great specialized in treating ergotism victims with balms containing tranquilizing and circulation-stimulating plant extracts; they were also skilled in amputations.[citation needed]
in terms of morality is like talking about faith in terms of science
neither have anything to do with one another
sure, this remark of mine will invite obfuscating semantic gymanastics in an attempt to talk about faith in terms of science, or espionage in terms of morality. but when you come right down to it, the former are pretty much defined as exceptions to latter
-quantifying the mouthfeel of whale flesh on a scale of carnivorous appeal -how to use less fossil fuels in the preparation of whale meat to abide by the kyoto protocol -classifying whale meat's umami taste factor -topological descriptions of various folding models in the preparation of whale meat sushi
most of the scientific papers associated with this vastly important field of scientific research have concluded some amazing scientific findings, samples of the papers' conclusions:
i don't see those with firearms as protecting me from fascists and criminals. i see those who crave guns as the spirit of the will to power via force that is the genesis of criminality and fascism. what part of your mind do guns appeal to? not your noble part, that's for sure
the very people that guns are supposed to protect us from crave these tools. they appeal to those who wish to undermine civil society, not be a part of it, or protect it
if one uses a gun, one does so with great sober reserve, as a last resort. not as a first line. that is why i view with great suspicion those who champion guns in civil life. these people are the soldiers of fascism and crime, not our saviors from it. carry around a gun, have a gun in your house, and a gun replaces dialog in moments of confusion and passion, moments that no one, no one is immune from. a gun in your house does not promote peace, it promotes tragedy
and i see in those running to and embracing and worshipping guns in their lives the same genesis of fascist thinking and criminal thinking: "i must make my point via force of arms, rather than via my force of thought." people with such a fetish therefore undermine civil society, not protect it
for every act of crime that guns save us from, another 9 situations occur where the gun is the creator of the crime
guns are a dimwit's and a fool's and an evil man's tool. not the protector of civil society. an underminer of it
when i encounter someone who evangelicises the positive role of guns in their lives, i see a fascist, and i see a criminal. a real noble man goes to deadly force with great reserve and sober and grim last resort. they don't put a smile on their face and show it around as their public face to the world. this betrays a lack of character
to depend upon deadly force, rather than the force of your mind and your word, is the sign of an evil man, a dumb man, and an insecure man
that some of those who see firearms as a tried-and-true aspect of their daily life will wake up and realize what many of us early adapters to contemporary civil society have discovered: there is no need for such throwbacks to cowboy era justice
i forget the name, slashdot had an story abouth it here awhile back. that site that kept track of snitches and federal witnesses that also got shut down
that site and this ratemycop site is not in any way an empowerment of the common man, it is an empowerment of the kind of constantly cranky loser you find in every small town, and it gives voice to the criminal element too: tracking cops, slandering cops, etc. it is not a control method over bad cops, it is a tool for slander and unfound rumor. it's a way fo rinternet trolls to spread lies
the truth is, you have control over your cops: via your government. yes, there are those alientated from their government. for many reasons. many of those reason being the crank's own bad ideas and bad social skills. but if a cop is genuinely bad, the government will get rid of him or her eventually, through regular channels, as regular people sound off about any mistreatment the cop makes
not through this site
so yes, close the site down. sure you can say godaddy may not have closed the site down in the most proper procedue, but the site should definitely be closed down, if you have any understanding of ethics
you can talk about modern malays showing somewhat smaller size due to the island rule, and the earlier remant negrito populations throughout southeast asia representing an earlier wave of migration, showing an even greater island rule effect
then there is no reason to postulate an even earlier wave, or waves, of homo sapiens or earlier human relatives, showing an extreme island rule effect in terms of their body size, now all since extinct. perhaps one can say that southeast asian islands represent the last toehold of pre-homo sapien relatives. perhaps about the same time we were slaughtering the last mammoth in siberia, an early melanesian homo sapien was arriving on an island and slaughtering the last of the our non homo sapien relatives somewhere in a southeast asia. or maybe he just sneezed on him and killed off our last non homo sapien relative thataways
but, as you admit, changing overall body size is such an easy and quick genetic trick, it's really hard to tell who was what and when. i really do hope they find some remnant dna
island flora and fauna undergo size changes to either gigantic sizes not seen on the continent (for example, the komodo dragon), or to diminuitive sizes (the pygmy rhino, for example). it's called the island rule
there's no reason then to be surprised that this effect works on human beings as well. as it is, modern malay and austronesian peoples living on southeast asian islands are generally a little smaller than people from the mainland (generally... the dayak people of borneo are quite tall). and their migrational wave is very recent in human history. so this size change tirck is very easy and quick to pull off
many people who find news of these hobbit sized archeological fossils in flores and now in palau (just a quick jump from mindanao in the philippines) will be even more suprised to find out that tiny ancient remnant people are very much alive in the philippines: the aeta
in the big islands of the philippines and other big southeast asian islands there are remnants of melanesian peoples like you see on papua new guinea, deep in the mountains, in tiny, nearly extinct groups that fiercely resist contact and integration into modern society. these people were there long before the austronesian people overwhelmed the coast and eventually everywhere else except the isolated mountains where they cling to existence
Very similar groups of Black people in Asia reside in relative small numbers in the Andaman Islands in the Bay of Bengal in the Indian Ocean north of the Indonesian island of Sumatra, and in northern Malaysia and southern Thailand in Southeast Asia. In Thailand they are commonly called Sakai. In Malaysia they have been called Orang Asli (Original Man). Pejoratively they are known as Semang, with the connotation of savage. It is very unfortunate that the contributions of these small Black people to monumental high-cultures characterized by urbanization, metallurgy, agricultural science and scripts remain essentially unexamined.
The presence of diminutive Africoids (whom Chinese historians called "Black Dwarfs") in early southern China during the period of the Three Kingdoms (ca. 250 C.E.) is recorded in the book of the Official of the Liang Dynasty (502-556 C.E.). In Taiwan there are recollections of a group of people now said to be extinct called "Little Black Man."
"They were described as short, dark-skinned people with short curly hair....These people, presumably Negritos, disappeared about 100 years ago. Their existence was mentioned in many Chinese documents of the Ching Dynasty concerning Taiwan."
Similar groups of Black people have been identified in Japan, Vietnam, Cambodia and Indonesia, and it seems almost certain that at one time a belt of Black populations of this type covered much of Asia.
so if one were to extrapolate to even smaller islands, to even further back in time, it is not surprising at all to imagine entire islands of hobbit sized people on islands all over southeast asia. really not surprising at all. all since wiped out though, a long time ago. if one studies the history of the haast eagle or the moa on new zealand (island giants) after the maori arrived, one gains an appreciation for how fragile island ecosystems are that most every zoologist possesses. and, by extension, how fragile island peoples are, culturally and genetically (disease and such) when contact with the wider world is established
however, this whole notion of separate species is rather doubtful. they probably were entirely homo sapiens. if one understands that smallness in size is not a very hard trick to pull off genetically for any creature to evolve quite quickly and comprise very little genetic change, then one can see tiny island people in man's recent past is not very strange at all
because the city already sounds like a futuristic sci fi japanese anime city, or a place in a videogame, so why not have everything mapped that way too?
furthermore, "google maps nanaimo" is exactly the kind of nonsensical phrase from the future no one would have predicted in 1978
and they receive $y money, where $y money is more than $x
what exactly is wrong with that?
as for advertisers influence on wikipedia: i am glad you are joining me in the boycott of pbs and npr due to their corporate sponsors, right?
oh right, we can get rid of the influence of money by having no advertisers... oh no wait, some guy donated $1 million to wikipedia. therefore, he has a horrible corrupting tainted influence
pffft
dude, welcome to your reality: the money has to come from SOMEWHERE. and ANY source of money can be painted as a horrible corrupting influence
which means what exactly? every source of information in your world has a subtle bias?
well, actually, yes
you have a mind, and you must weigh the overt and subvert bias in every piece of info presented to you, forever. because yes, every single piece of media in this world has a subtle bias, whether the money they get is from advertising, or donors, or corporate sponsors, or government sponsors, or whatever
1. you need money to run the damn media. 2. the money has to come from some damn source. 3. there is therefore an influence and a "bias" introduced
there is absolutely no way around any of these 3 facts in the world you live in. forever. welcome to reality. deal with it?
if you can deal with reality, then you will see advertising on wikipedia really is no big deal and really won't skew bias. or, if you can't deal with the idea of bias everywhere, and your precious snowflake idealism is horribly crushed, then go lock yourself in your basement and cover your ears and never read or listen to another piece of media in your life. to free yourself of taint and corruption of course
Slashdot Mirror
like the geneva convention stopped atrocities in war? please
human rights watch writing a code of conduct won't convince china of anything. it won't change its ways. if american companies didn't help them, they'd get someone else to help them, or do it themselves
what's more important to you? helping human rights in china? or shaming american companies? the shaming of american companies should be put aside in pursuit of the larger more noble goal: getting free imformation to chinese citizens
how do you do that? writing a code of conduct? preventing china from using your expertise to build their firewall?
no and no
you defeat the great firewall of china with better guerilla apps. anyone who care about this issue should forget about shaming codes of conduct or shushing american companies that helped the technocrats in beijing
instead what you do is you build proxy servers, ip obfuscators, p2p web traffic redirectors, content caching, etc., etc.: you wage war with the great firewall with china, you smuggle content around it, you render all of the technocrat's efforts to screen what chinese citizens see fruitless and pointless and a joke
that's where you put your effort
shaming colluding american companies or writing well-intentioned but pointless codes of conduct means nothing. results mean something
get to writing those guerilla apps if you really care about this issue. shaming american companies or writing ivory tower codes of conduct is pointless if you really want to help regular chinese escape their hermetically sealed tomb of sanitized braindead propaganda
an "us" versus "them"
where "us" is your average american, the beneficiary of the spying, and "them" is your average islamofascist, the target of the spying
as long as that perception holds, your average american will support domestic spying
but of course, there is something called mission creep. much as we still pay tolls for bridges that were already paid for 10x over 50 years ago, once somethign is in place that benefits the goverment, it's not moving unless a really big push comes to shove
so unless stories come out about abuses of spying laws (and no, your average american does not view abuse as something that hurts someone seen as sympathetic to radical islam), where "us" versus "them" shifts in meaning to "us"=the agenda of someone in the government, and "them"=any average joe blow, these spying laws will be in place for a long time
that may take decades
as long as the government uses these powers shrewdly, and uses them only against those who most obviously have no interest in a tolerant society and the rights that should be used to protect them in the first place, your average american simply won't care. but what will happen is the government will not use these powers shrewdly, a scandal will happen where these powers are flagrantly abused, and the domestic spying laws will be reversed
so start looking for that scandal. it may take awhile
this is bottom up. if msnbc suddenly reports more on science in more amounts of time your average slashdotter finds acceptable, msnbc's ratings go down. believe me, if they went up, you'd see 20 minutes every hour of the day devoted to science on cnn, msnbc, and even fox
the real issue here then is that your average joe blow just doesn't care that much about science, not some sort of weird pact by cable news shows to keep everyone stupid
and to go further than that, many will see failure in society, in politics, because joe blow isn't so interested in things your average slashdotter is. well, that's your vanity speaking, not your intelligence. why is your science-centric viewpoint superior than the viewpoint of joe blow? what is your objective reason for believing that?
where is the objective measure that says someone massively interested in science would make a better citizen? many people here are certain of that idea, but plenty of people are also prejudiced to their own particular worldview and agenda. that's you i'm speaking to, you who sees little interest in science as a sort of travesty. it's not. it simply isn't. get over yourself
the truth is, just not that many people are interested in science, were interested science, or ever will be interested in science. in any time period, in any country. get used to it. the world does not revolve around your biases towards a lot of interest in science, so this idea that few people are interested in science is not in any way a bad thing, it's just the way it is, and you would be doing yourself a favor by simply accepting that and moving on, rather than crying into your milk about some sort of travesty that isn't really a travesty at all
send your work to errol morris. he is sure to use the data and give you a shout out
did anyone else catch the blog in the new york times about the fenton photographs?
apparently this guy took some photos of some cannonballs in the crimean war that became famous as a poetic commentary on war. this documentary filmmaker, errol morris, has gone completely unhinged obsessive compulsive over whether or not the photos are fake and/ or manipulated. it's utterly fascinating, and a little weird, to see so much time and effort devoted to these photos. specifically, cannons and shadows. utterly esoteric and thorough. he also expands into the larger topic of the history of manipulated politically sensitive photos. makes for a good read, especially if you are interested in pre-photoshop image manipulation
check it out, talk about thorough
it was like eating gravel
hopefully american food processors can turn it into a sweet mushy goo, like most of the food i'm comfortable with
i don't get it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_smut
uh... never mind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergot
now even hackers are releasing vaporware?
what an irrational holiday
for nuclear reactors. they're building them to ENSLAVE WHALES
maybe the japanese are trying to NUKE THE WHALES?
first fake scientific research, now this?
will the japanese stop at nothing to satisfy their insatiable whale flesh thirst?
You are likely to be eaten by a script kiddie.
in terms of morality is like talking about faith in terms of science
neither have anything to do with one another
sure, this remark of mine will invite obfuscating semantic gymanastics in an attempt to talk about faith in terms of science, or espionage in terms of morality. but when you come right down to it, the former are pretty much defined as exceptions to latter
-quantifying the mouthfeel of whale flesh on a scale of carnivorous appeal
-how to use less fossil fuels in the preparation of whale meat to abide by the kyoto protocol
-classifying whale meat's umami taste factor
-topological descriptions of various folding models in the preparation of whale meat sushi
most of the scientific papers associated with this vastly important field of scientific research have concluded some amazing scientific findings, samples of the papers' conclusions:
"om nom nom nom nom nom..."
"BURP"
"pass the sapporo, onegai shimasu"
people who don't play fair don't like rules about fairness and equality?
i can't believe it
so do fascists
i don't see those with firearms as protecting me from fascists and criminals. i see those who crave guns as the spirit of the will to power via force that is the genesis of criminality and fascism. what part of your mind do guns appeal to? not your noble part, that's for sure
the very people that guns are supposed to protect us from crave these tools. they appeal to those who wish to undermine civil society, not be a part of it, or protect it
if one uses a gun, one does so with great sober reserve, as a last resort. not as a first line. that is why i view with great suspicion those who champion guns in civil life. these people are the soldiers of fascism and crime, not our saviors from it. carry around a gun, have a gun in your house, and a gun replaces dialog in moments of confusion and passion, moments that no one, no one is immune from. a gun in your house does not promote peace, it promotes tragedy
and i see in those running to and embracing and worshipping guns in their lives the same genesis of fascist thinking and criminal thinking: "i must make my point via force of arms, rather than via my force of thought." people with such a fetish therefore undermine civil society, not protect it
for every act of crime that guns save us from, another 9 situations occur where the gun is the creator of the crime
guns are a dimwit's and a fool's and an evil man's tool. not the protector of civil society. an underminer of it
when i encounter someone who evangelicises the positive role of guns in their lives, i see a fascist, and i see a criminal. a real noble man goes to deadly force with great reserve and sober and grim last resort. they don't put a smile on their face and show it around as their public face to the world. this betrays a lack of character
to depend upon deadly force, rather than the force of your mind and your word, is the sign of an evil man, a dumb man, and an insecure man
that some of those who see firearms as a tried-and-true aspect of their daily life will wake up and realize what many of us early adapters to contemporary civil society have discovered: there is no need for such throwbacks to cowboy era justice
a whole house full ;-)
there are more sikhs in the world than jews, but no one argues about them
personally, i don't like jews, i don't hate jews. i just don't care about jews, for or against
and that makes me a small minority in the world
who's a rat? site
i forget the name, slashdot had an story abouth it here awhile back. that site that kept track of snitches and federal witnesses that also got shut down
that site and this ratemycop site is not in any way an empowerment of the common man, it is an empowerment of the kind of constantly cranky loser you find in every small town, and it gives voice to the criminal element too: tracking cops, slandering cops, etc. it is not a control method over bad cops, it is a tool for slander and unfound rumor. it's a way fo rinternet trolls to spread lies
the truth is, you have control over your cops: via your government. yes, there are those alientated from their government. for many reasons. many of those reason being the crank's own bad ideas and bad social skills. but if a cop is genuinely bad, the government will get rid of him or her eventually, through regular channels, as regular people sound off about any mistreatment the cop makes
not through this site
so yes, close the site down. sure you can say godaddy may not have closed the site down in the most proper procedue, but the site should definitely be closed down, if you have any understanding of ethics
you can talk about modern malays showing somewhat smaller size due to the island rule, and the earlier remant negrito populations throughout southeast asia representing an earlier wave of migration, showing an even greater island rule effect
then there is no reason to postulate an even earlier wave, or waves, of homo sapiens or earlier human relatives, showing an extreme island rule effect in terms of their body size, now all since extinct. perhaps one can say that southeast asian islands represent the last toehold of pre-homo sapien relatives. perhaps about the same time we were slaughtering the last mammoth in siberia, an early melanesian homo sapien was arriving on an island and slaughtering the last of the our non homo sapien relatives somewhere in a southeast asia. or maybe he just sneezed on him and killed off our last non homo sapien relative thataways
but, as you admit, changing overall body size is such an easy and quick genetic trick, it's really hard to tell who was what and when. i really do hope they find some remnant dna
there's no reason then to be surprised that this effect works on human beings as well. as it is, modern malay and austronesian peoples living on southeast asian islands are generally a little smaller than people from the mainland (generally... the dayak people of borneo are quite tall). and their migrational wave is very recent in human history. so this size change tirck is very easy and quick to pull off
many people who find news of these hobbit sized archeological fossils in flores and now in palau (just a quick jump from mindanao in the philippines) will be even more suprised to find out that tiny ancient remnant people are very much alive in the philippines: the aeta
in the big islands of the philippines and other big southeast asian islands there are remnants of melanesian peoples like you see on papua new guinea, deep in the mountains, in tiny, nearly extinct groups that fiercely resist contact and integration into modern society. these people were there long before the austronesian people overwhelmed the coast and eventually everywhere else except the isolated mountains where they cling to existence
the aeta on luzon. these people are quite tiny
and yes, you can find still living remnants and historical recollections of these ancient tiny dwarf peoples even on japan, taiwan, thailand, and mainland china
so if one were to extrapolate to even smaller islands, to even further back in time, it is not surprising at all to imagine entire islands of hobbit sized people on islands all over southeast asia. really not surprising at all. all since wiped out though, a long time ago. if one studies the history of the haast eagle or the moa on new zealand (island giants) after the maori arrived, one gains an appreciation for how fragile island ecosystems are that most every zoologist possesses. and, by extension, how fragile island peoples are, culturally and genetically (disease and such) when contact with the wider world is established
however, this whole notion of separate species is rather doubtful. they probably were entirely homo sapiens. if one understands that smallness in size is not a very hard trick to pull off genetically for any creature to evolve quite quickly and comprise very little genetic change, then one can see tiny island people in man's recent past is not very strange at all
after a meal of poutine, do you have a heart attack in 12 hours or 24 hours?
you canadians must need a lot of body fat for your 9 month hibernation season i suppose
because the city already sounds like a futuristic sci fi japanese anime city, or a place in a videogame, so why not have everything mapped that way too?
furthermore, "google maps nanaimo" is exactly the kind of nonsensical phrase from the future no one would have predicted in 1978
and they receive $y money, where $y money is more than $x
what exactly is wrong with that?
as for advertisers influence on wikipedia: i am glad you are joining me in the boycott of pbs and npr due to their corporate sponsors, right?
oh right, we can get rid of the influence of money by having no advertisers... oh no wait, some guy donated $1 million to wikipedia. therefore, he has a horrible corrupting tainted influence
pffft
dude, welcome to your reality: the money has to come from SOMEWHERE. and ANY source of money can be painted as a horrible corrupting influence
which means what exactly? every source of information in your world has a subtle bias?
well, actually, yes
you have a mind, and you must weigh the overt and subvert bias in every piece of info presented to you, forever. because yes, every single piece of media in this world has a subtle bias, whether the money they get is from advertising, or donors, or corporate sponsors, or government sponsors, or whatever
1. you need money to run the damn media.
2. the money has to come from some damn source.
3. there is therefore an influence and a "bias" introduced
there is absolutely no way around any of these 3 facts in the world you live in. forever. welcome to reality. deal with it?
if you can deal with reality, then you will see advertising on wikipedia really is no big deal and really won't skew bias. or, if you can't deal with the idea of bias everywhere, and your precious snowflake idealism is horribly crushed, then go lock yourself in your basement and cover your ears and never read or listen to another piece of media in your life. to free yourself of taint and corruption of course