The sad thing is that most people will accept whatever restrictions they're slapped with, as long as they are allowed to suckle at the electronic teat. The rest of us are an inconsequential minority that the MPAA isn't trying to please.
And if they offered this for free, as part of the OS or not, you would be crying the blues about how M$ is being anticompetetive with the likes of McAffe and Symantec.
"How does entering another license into the fray solve the problem with there being too many?"
First of all, that statement assumes that "too many" lisences is a "problem". I bet that many here would disagree (The great thing about lisences is that there are so many to choose from!).
And second, a new lisence is created to meet requirements that existing lisences do not. That's the only problem that all new lisences solve.
Ya know, I can't help but wonder if it's silly little pissing contests like this that, at least in some way, prevents OSS from reaching its full potential.
Here we have several very adept programmers slapping at one another over how their respective web browsers work. Am I the only one out there that finds this kind of bickering trivial and unproductive?
Yes, people will have disagreements, and people will have different ways of doing things. Fine. But why not harness those different perspectives and create something better?
As long as OSS projects are afflicted by this kind of petty squabbling, developers' attention will be diverted from creating quality software. Now knock it off!
"If the open source community can simply overcome the stereotypes of Linux as having no support at all, then I think we'll see Linux begin to totally take over MS's marketshare."
Well there's that, and then there's the matter of getting hardware manufacturers to open up and let Linux developers start coding some drivers.
And then there's also the matter of getting software companies to start producing Linux versions of their software.
Neither will happen until Linux becomes a worthwhile expenditure of resources. Chicken, meet Egg.
Arrangements with schools to get kids hooked on M$ applications
De-facto standard desktop OS
Games, games, games
Not that I wouldn't mind seeing something better come along, but right now, Microsoft works best for most people, and I don't see that changing particularly soon.
I'd love to see Linux prosper as a desktop OS, but sadly developers are not getting adequate cooperation from hardware manufacturers.
Now I know that Groklaw is considered a Good Guy(tm) here at Slashdot (and I am therefore risking my karma), but what makes you think that Groklaw is any more trustworthy than the "mainstream media"?
Bravo for standing up and saying what (I'm sure) so many here are thinking, but won't say because it's now chic to bash George Lucas.
The first two weren't THAT bad! Yes, Jar-Jar got on a lot of peoples' nerves, and the puppy-love scenes in EP2 might have been a little overdone. But overall, I thought they were generally very enjoyable!
But let's face it; most people here weren't old enough to be movie critics when the original trilogy came out, so they don't really have much perspective. Now that it's fashionable to be jaded, they just can't bring themselves to admit that they actually liked TPM and AotC.
I for one look forward to seeing RotS, and won't be here sounding off about how George Lucas robbed my life of several hours.
Well, with O'Gara's recent vile attack on Pamela Jones (which I won't give any more free publicity by linking to)
I haven't been following this particular soap opera. Since the submitter is unwilling to share O'Gara's article with us, could somebody else post a link?
I'd like to read both sides of the story and decide for myself what/who is right or wrong, thank you very much.
"So why didn't you buy her (or have her buy) a Linux friendly printer?"
That's funny, I was under the impression that Linux was supposed to save money. Using a 'free' operating system but having to shell out $200 on compatible hardware doesn't really fit that bill, IMHO.
Thats one way to reduce the chances of your government-issued ID card of being "abused".
That's also one way to get arrested for posessing a fake ID card. If an officer's equipment can't read the card, what is he/she supposed to think of its authenticity?
Damn capitalist pigs and their oppressive subscription model! Someone needs to free the ENTIRE article... because... erm, I don't feel like paying for it.
"continuing investigation that uses observation, hypothesis testing, measurement, experimentation, logical argument and theory building to lead to more adequate explanations of natural phenomena."
Maybe I need to check my eyes, but what about that definition even suggests a "supreme being"?
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Not "exactly"; not even close.
With shareware, people are typically free to download a crippled version of the full program.
If they like what they see in the shareware version, they are encouraged to pay for the full version. They are not simply entitled to it.
In fact, I'd say thge shareware model largely fizzled out because of the freeloaders who weren't willing to pay for a product they obviously wanted.
In other words, what happened to shareware is a perfect example of what piracy can do to innovation.
Not only that, but we're talking about software that is 100% free to download.
Simply put, Opera, Mozilla, and Firefox are not cutting into Microsoft's revenue.
Now show me some evidence that (for example) OpenOffice.org is taking a measurable chunk out of the MS Office market, and then I'll be impressed.
If posessing 90% of a market denotes an "almost dead" product, I'm glad you're not MY boss! Sheesh!
Maybe when IE has less than 10%, you can start calling it "almost dead".
The sad thing is that most people will accept whatever restrictions they're slapped with, as long as they are allowed to suckle at the electronic teat. The rest of us are an inconsequential minority that the MPAA isn't trying to please.
And if they offered this for free, as part of the OS or not, you would be crying the blues about how M$ is being anticompetetive with the likes of McAffe and Symantec.
First of all, that statement assumes that "too many" lisences is a "problem". I bet that many here would disagree (The great thing about lisences is that there are so many to choose from!).
And second, a new lisence is created to meet requirements that existing lisences do not. That's the only problem that all new lisences solve.
Are these discussions carried out in public? Do your co-workers snipe at one another in a public forum?
I suspect the answer to both questions is 'no', because involving people that have nothing to do with the project is pointless.
Publishing this dispute on a public blog seems to be less about coming up with a soultion, and more about convincing people that they are 'right'.
Ya know, I can't help but wonder if it's silly little pissing contests like this that, at least in some way, prevents OSS from reaching its full potential.
Here we have several very adept programmers slapping at one another over how their respective web browsers work. Am I the only one out there that finds this kind of bickering trivial and unproductive?
Yes, people will have disagreements, and people will have different ways of doing things. Fine. But why not harness those different perspectives and create something better?
As long as OSS projects are afflicted by this kind of petty squabbling, developers' attention will be diverted from creating quality software. Now knock it off!
Well there's that, and then there's the matter of getting hardware manufacturers to open up and let Linux developers start coding some drivers.
And then there's also the matter of getting software companies to start producing Linux versions of their software.
Neither will happen until Linux becomes a worthwhile expenditure of resources. Chicken, meet Egg.
Take your pick:
Arrangements with schools to get kids hooked on M$ applications
De-facto standard desktop OS
Games, games, games
Not that I wouldn't mind seeing something better come along, but right now, Microsoft works best for most people, and I don't see that changing particularly soon.
I'd love to see Linux prosper as a desktop OS, but sadly developers are not getting adequate cooperation from hardware manufacturers.
How many stories have I read here stating that "Microsoft is scared!" or "Microsoft is in trouble!"? How long has this been going on?
I'll start believing it when large retailers like Dell start refusing to ship units with a Microsoft OS pre-installed.
Until then, I'm going to regard stories like this as nothing more than wishful thinking.
Now I know that Groklaw is considered a Good Guy(tm) here at Slashdot (and I am therefore risking my karma), but what makes you think that Groklaw is any more trustworthy than the "mainstream media"?
Grow up.
Bravo for standing up and saying what (I'm sure) so many here are thinking, but won't say because it's now chic to bash George Lucas.
The first two weren't THAT bad! Yes, Jar-Jar got on a lot of peoples' nerves, and the puppy-love scenes in EP2 might have been a little overdone. But overall, I thought they were generally very enjoyable!
But let's face it; most people here weren't old enough to be movie critics when the original trilogy came out, so they don't really have much perspective. Now that it's fashionable to be jaded, they just can't bring themselves to admit that they actually liked TPM and AotC.
I for one look forward to seeing RotS, and won't be here sounding off about how George Lucas robbed my life of several hours.
When was this vulnerability first introduced? How long did/has it gone unpatched? Inquiring minds want to know.
*yawn*
I concur.
If I were the hiring type, I'd certainly be less inclined to hire somebody that drags personal internal squabbles into a public cat fight.
While O'Gara's 'article' was very wanting of professionalism, this public griping isn't much better.
I haven't been following this particular soap opera. Since the submitter is unwilling to share O'Gara's article with us, could somebody else post a link?
I'd like to read both sides of the story and decide for myself what/who is right or wrong, thank you very much.
That's funny, I was under the impression that Linux was supposed to save money. Using a 'free' operating system but having to shell out $200 on compatible hardware doesn't really fit that bill, IMHO.
That's also one way to get arrested for posessing a fake ID card. If an officer's equipment can't read the card, what is he/she supposed to think of its authenticity?
Sheesh, and it's not like there's really anything on TV that's worth watching once, let alone recard to watch again and again!
Just turn the damn thing off. You'll save $50 to $125 per month, find interesting new hobbies, and maybe shed a few pounds in the process!
Why get all upset over silly things like broadcast flags and DRM when there are so many other, better ways you could be spending your time!
Damn capitalist pigs and their oppressive subscription model! Someone needs to free the ENTIRE article... because... erm, I don't feel like paying for it.
Maybe I need to check my eyes, but what about that definition even suggests a "supreme being"?
More like nobody. You can't have people that both do and do not work for a company; they either do or they don't.
Nonetheless, you are correct in that it was an idiotic statement.
Ahh yes, good ol' Znet... our favorite Marxist, anti-Semitic rag.