Spying implies doing it in secret and generally for a nefarious reason.
Microsoft is very open about what data is collected and why the collect it. For instance, that "keylogger" every was up in arms about? The first one was for the Insider's only, and they put that warning right on the download page, meaning everyone who downloaded it was told it was happening. The newest one is that Cortana sends what's typed into the search bar to Microsoft. No shit...that's how the service works. This is the same as google.com sending what was typed into the search bar to the Google servers.
The "data snooping" that was talked about? That's allowing them to ensure what's in your OneDrive is nothing illegal. These are the same provisions held by Dropbox, Google (for Google Drive), iCloud, etc. That's how the service works.
I could keep going on with these, but if you look at what services are baked into 10 by default, and then read the privacy statement/ToS/EULA, you'll see that everything has a reason to be there, and it's for the services provided. It's not a giant data collector, it's a service provider.
Perhaps then you can explain why opening Notepad will result in Windows 10 contacting 107 different domains, including watson.live.com and m.adnxs.com?
Perhaps you can provide a credible source on this? Sounds like that CheesusCrust post on Voat that was debunked earlier this year: http://www.zdnet.com/article/w...
Spying implies doing so without your knowledge, as well as nefarious purposes. Microsoft is open with what they're doing, and the data collecting it does do is to improve the services that they provide.
Cortana only logs what is necessary to do her job. Want to be reminded of calendar events? Well, then you'll have to give Cortana access to your calendar. Want to have package tracking automatically from e-mails? Well, then Cortana will need access to your email account.
People want features but bitch about the data necessary to drive these features. It's funny how that works.
Why should Google waste their legal department's time getting apps taken off the Windows Store? As much as I love Android, I'm forced to use Windows Phone for work. After seeing how Google plays nice with Apple, but not Microsoft, I'm not even sure I can support Google anymore...
If they don't want 3rd party apps out there for their services, they should be taking it down on all 3 platforms, not just Windows Mobile. If they don't want to make 1st party apps for a platform, that's their prerogative, but if they claim to have an open API, they need to allow apps to be made, even if they don't like the platform they're being made for.
Apparently tripleevenfall didn't read the entire article, especially where it says:
"The good news is the end of Messaging Everywhere will not affect Cortana’s SMS integration that lets you send and receive text messages from your PC."
do your research and make sure you disable all the keyloggers
There are no keyloggers in Windows...
make sure you're ok with having an operating system that will basically constantly advertise at you, trying to steer you towards the MS store.
Just like Android and iOS. The masses have been pushing for a unified OS, and now they have one, and now they hate it. Funny how things work out for them...
Over, and over, and over, every time Windows 10 comes up in Slashdot stories, there are multiple, +5 Insightful posts pointing out that Windows 10 comes loaded with telemetry. Just LOADED with it.
Telemetry is not inherently evil, and what Microsoft has released in their policies does not speak of evil, either.
Also, you can't infinitely defer reboots after updates are applied. You are going to be forced to reboot at some point that is not of your choosing, and that's a legitimate problem for many people. (Like, the ones who use computers as productivity tools.)
Windows 10 wrests control away from the user in ways that are unacceptable. I cannot compromise on these things. I will not use Windows 10.
And you shouldn't indefinitely defer updates. They're there for a reason and should be applied as soon as you are able. I use my 3 Windows 10 computers and have never had an issue with it rebooting when I didn't want it to because I'm actually paying attention to the updates. It warns you before it reboots to prepare you, but so many people ignore the warnings and then bitch when it happens.
Windows 10 takes away the control from the power users, yes, because it wasn't built for them. It was built for the people who view computers on the same level as an appliance, not a tool. They don't want to perform maintenance on it, but they want to just have it work with no vulnerabilities. They want a car that doesn't need gas or an oil change.
When I have been asked by "average persons" about the upgrade, I explain the data harvesting that Microsoft will be doing to them and their family.
And depending on how you ask this question, the answer will be what YOU want it to be. The "data harvesting" is well documented and is on the same level as Facebook, Google, DuckDuckGo, etc.
This telemetry has been common place in software since XP (at least). Any "user experience" reporting, crash feedback, or online knowledge base/help system is gathering the same data that Windows 10 is.
In this case, it was #4. A passenger in the car wanted the "Go 100MPH" achievement that Snapchat gives you, so the driver accelerated to 113 MPH to help her friend get the trophy.
No, it was the driver that was trying to get the trophy.
Passengers in McGee's vehicle have said she was trying to take a picture of herself while traveling over 100 mph when she hit Maynard./quote
> I just sent off an email with my resume to the first person who wanted to interview me in months," one user posted in a Google Help forum. " I clicked the wrong button and sent it with the mic drop.
This isn't about people getting fired over sending out a "mic-drop", this is about people who don't have jobs or don't use their current employers e-mail service as their personal e-mail service missing out on potential employment because of a joke.
That has been the goal, the issue is that the goal posts are constantly moving. As soon as one hole is patched, at least one more is found elsewhere.
No system is 100% secure, and never will be. There will always be exploits and ways in. Think of the bogus "Microsoft Support" phone calls that are out there. These are people initiating a connection to a remote "hacker". How do you secure against that at the OS level?
This was also covered about a week ago on HackADay: http://hackaday.com/2016/02/22...
"Most of the uploaded CAD models on Thingiverse are done under the Creative Commons license, which is pretty clear in its assertion that anyone can profit from the work. This would seem to put the eBay store owner in the clear for selling the work, but it should be noted that he’s not properly attributing the work to the original creator. "
The only part that he's violating is that there's no attribution.
Windows 10 does send information back to Microsoft, but nothing personal aside from anonymous telemetry data. It's not stealing documents, it's not stealing photos, it's doing the same thing OS X does, it's doing the same thing Android does, it's doing the same thing Ubuntu did.
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Spying implies doing it in secret and generally for a nefarious reason. Microsoft is very open about what data is collected and why the collect it. For instance, that "keylogger" every was up in arms about? The first one was for the Insider's only, and they put that warning right on the download page, meaning everyone who downloaded it was told it was happening. The newest one is that Cortana sends what's typed into the search bar to Microsoft. No shit...that's how the service works. This is the same as google.com sending what was typed into the search bar to the Google servers. The "data snooping" that was talked about? That's allowing them to ensure what's in your OneDrive is nothing illegal. These are the same provisions held by Dropbox, Google (for Google Drive), iCloud, etc. That's how the service works. I could keep going on with these, but if you look at what services are baked into 10 by default, and then read the privacy statement/ToS/EULA, you'll see that everything has a reason to be there, and it's for the services provided. It's not a giant data collector, it's a service provider.
Perhaps then you can explain why opening Notepad will result in Windows 10 contacting 107 different domains, including watson.live.com and m.adnxs.com?
Perhaps you can provide a credible source on this? Sounds like that CheesusCrust post on Voat that was debunked earlier this year: http://www.zdnet.com/article/w...
Spying implies doing so without your knowledge, as well as nefarious purposes. Microsoft is open with what they're doing, and the data collecting it does do is to improve the services that they provide.
Windows 10 doesn't spy on you.
Cortana only logs what is necessary to do her job. Want to be reminded of calendar events? Well, then you'll have to give Cortana access to your calendar. Want to have package tracking automatically from e-mails? Well, then Cortana will need access to your email account. People want features but bitch about the data necessary to drive these features. It's funny how that works.
And tech support weeps.
Why should Google waste their legal department's time getting apps taken off the Windows Store? As much as I love Android, I'm forced to use Windows Phone for work. After seeing how Google plays nice with Apple, but not Microsoft, I'm not even sure I can support Google anymore... If they don't want 3rd party apps out there for their services, they should be taking it down on all 3 platforms, not just Windows Mobile. If they don't want to make 1st party apps for a platform, that's their prerogative, but if they claim to have an open API, they need to allow apps to be made, even if they don't like the platform they're being made for.
Apparently tripleevenfall didn't read the entire article, especially where it says:
"The good news is the end of Messaging Everywhere will not affect Cortana’s SMS integration that lets you send and receive text messages from your PC."
More like Google not bringing their apps to Windows Mobile, and killing off third-party apps that attempt to use their open API.
do your research and make sure you disable all the keyloggers
There are no keyloggers in Windows...
make sure you're ok with having an operating system that will basically constantly advertise at you, trying to steer you towards the MS store.
Just like Android and iOS. The masses have been pushing for a unified OS, and now they have one, and now they hate it. Funny how things work out for them...
Does the submitter even read Slashdot?
Over, and over, and over, every time Windows 10 comes up in Slashdot stories, there are multiple, +5 Insightful posts pointing out that Windows 10 comes loaded with telemetry. Just LOADED with it.
Telemetry is not inherently evil, and what Microsoft has released in their policies does not speak of evil, either.
Also, you can't infinitely defer reboots after updates are applied. You are going to be forced to reboot at some point that is not of your choosing, and that's a legitimate problem for many people. (Like, the ones who use computers as productivity tools.)
Windows 10 wrests control away from the user in ways that are unacceptable. I cannot compromise on these things. I will not use Windows 10.
And you shouldn't indefinitely defer updates. They're there for a reason and should be applied as soon as you are able. I use my 3 Windows 10 computers and have never had an issue with it rebooting when I didn't want it to because I'm actually paying attention to the updates. It warns you before it reboots to prepare you, but so many people ignore the warnings and then bitch when it happens. Windows 10 takes away the control from the power users, yes, because it wasn't built for them. It was built for the people who view computers on the same level as an appliance, not a tool. They don't want to perform maintenance on it, but they want to just have it work with no vulnerabilities. They want a car that doesn't need gas or an oil change.
When I have been asked by "average persons" about the upgrade, I explain the data harvesting that Microsoft will be doing to them and their family.
And depending on how you ask this question, the answer will be what YOU want it to be. The "data harvesting" is well documented and is on the same level as Facebook, Google, DuckDuckGo, etc. This telemetry has been common place in software since XP (at least). Any "user experience" reporting, crash feedback, or online knowledge base/help system is gathering the same data that Windows 10 is.
Unless their actions involve encouraging dangerous behavior, in which case you seem to think they deserve a free pass.
Sounds like SnapChat says "Hey, dipshit, don't drive and use our app!" when you first open that feature.
A warning when users first open the speed filter feature urges them not to use it while driving.
In this case, it was #4. A passenger in the car wanted the "Go 100MPH" achievement that Snapchat gives you, so the driver accelerated to 113 MPH to help her friend get the trophy.
No, it was the driver that was trying to get the trophy.
Passengers in McGee's vehicle have said she was trying to take a picture of herself while traveling over 100 mph when she hit Maynard./quote
Unless their actions involve encouraging dangerous behavior, in which case you seem to think they deserve a free pass.
Sounds like SnapChat says "Hey, dipshit, don't drive and use our app!" when you first open that feature.
> I just sent off an email with my resume to the first person who wanted to interview me in months," one user posted in a Google Help forum. " I clicked the wrong button and sent it with the mic drop. This isn't about people getting fired over sending out a "mic-drop", this is about people who don't have jobs or don't use their current employers e-mail service as their personal e-mail service missing out on potential employment because of a joke.
That has been the goal, the issue is that the goal posts are constantly moving. As soon as one hole is patched, at least one more is found elsewhere. No system is 100% secure, and never will be. There will always be exploits and ways in. Think of the bogus "Microsoft Support" phone calls that are out there. These are people initiating a connection to a remote "hacker". How do you secure against that at the OS level?
Similar to Microsoft's Kinect. Are you bitching about that too?
This was also covered about a week ago on HackADay: http://hackaday.com/2016/02/22... "Most of the uploaded CAD models on Thingiverse are done under the Creative Commons license, which is pretty clear in its assertion that anyone can profit from the work. This would seem to put the eBay store owner in the clear for selling the work, but it should be noted that he’s not properly attributing the work to the original creator. " The only part that he's violating is that there's no attribution.
Windows 10 does send information back to Microsoft, but nothing personal aside from anonymous telemetry data. It's not stealing documents, it's not stealing photos, it's doing the same thing OS X does, it's doing the same thing Android does, it's doing the same thing Ubuntu did.
First off, Bill hasn't been involved with Windows for quite some time. Secondly, it does back anything up that you don't tell it to...
"Not long after Apple unveiled its Siri personal assistant to the world." Right, Apple bought Siri. Everything it did, it did before Apple bought it.