I googled, found another gentoo user with the same chipset [possibly the one good thing from Intdell] and set a modeline in X. Admitedly without the other user I wouldn't have figured it out on my own but that goes to show.
With the 915GM chipset you have to use the vesa driver for now with a specific modeline and then use the 915resolution to remap mode "45" to 1280x800 [if you're in 16bpp mode].
Why so defensive? I find something easy to use and I must be a zealot.
All I'm saying is dealing with dependencies is easy in Gentoo. Hence the comment about "building from source" being a problem can be mitigated with the right choice of distro. If ubuntu or Debian can do this as well, all the power to them.
From my experience Gentoo is a lot easier to configure [e.g. try installing The GIMP with tiff support in Debian...] than other distros and it isn't hard at all to work with. If that makes me a "zealot" or "idiot 11 yr old" then so be it.
It also makes me a happy Gentoo user who accomplishes productive work because my distro provides me with the tools and configurations I need to do the said work.
I've installed it dozens of times and now I don't even use the f'ing manual.
Basics
1. make sure hardware modules loaded 2. fdisk 3. format 4. mount 5. unpack stage1 and snapshot [or just make/usr/portage 6. emerge sync 7. make make.conf [or copy from other boxes] 8. bootstrap 9. emerge -U system 10. install lilo, syslog-ng, dcron, hotplug, coldplug 11. download and unpack kernel 12. Configure, make and install 13. set root passwd 14. reboot
15. setup hostname, network, etc 16. install world packages [e.g. gnome, mozilla, gaim, cvs, tetex, whatever] 17. Clean up distfiles 18. tarball your filesystem 19. burn to DVD and call it "my stage 4 install" 20. enjoy.
Wow, complicated.
Basically after you've installed gentoo once it's simple every other time. It also gets you to learn the tools [e.g. how to fdisk/format/mount partitions without using a walkthrough] and configure a linux box.
I recently gentoo'ed my new Dell laptop [inspiron 630m which rocks btw as it supports linux very well] and the "world build" took 6 hours which I did overnight. I built about 380 packages from a command line that specified about 15 packages, e.g.
After tweaking the video [to get 1280x800 working which took me all of two hours] I tarballed the drive [730MB bz2 file] and sent it to my RAID-1 for archiving.
Now if my HD dies I can get it replaced [under the dell warranty] and just untar. Boom, linux running in all of 5 mins.
Do you honestly want to see the fuckers on the other end of an IM? I've met quite a few IMers in meatspace and they're not lookers.
Unless you got IM-hos on your list I can't see this being a deal breaker.
That and it's a stupid use of bandwidth. Downloading porn is better. It promotes an economy and is better to jerk off to than a fellow male from scotland or something otherwise equally perverted.
I pity all the folks who run windows by design or choice... as for me, I run gentoo linux.
My two copies of windows I have live came in the form of
1. my new Dell laptop [which dual boots with gentoo linux as well, split my 100GB drive as 15GB for winxp and rest for gentoo]
2. My desktop where someone else bought me a copy of windows so I could do some crypto work for them.
I may hate microsoft but I keep a partition or two around just in case I get stuck with a windows job. [Though I wouldn't let windows touch any of my dual-core 64-bit boxes].
Um no. A typical razor broadhead is 100 grains. A typical.30 is 180 grains and a.223 is 70.
At best it's twice as heavy. Except the bullet is going 10x the velocity....
I'm no physics major but a compact car hitting you at 100km/h will do more damage than a midsize at 10km/h even though the midsize has more mass [which is the word you should be using in this discussion]
Think about it, he spends 365 days a year trying to screw people into using his companies inferior products, makes billions then spreads it around. I'm glad he's doing that at least, I'd be happier if he wasn't screwing multiple generations of humans with the shit products though.
I guess when I become a software tyrant and all around jackass I too can afford to spread some money and look all innocent.
I'm not disagreeing that most indian call centres are useless [well actually most call centres period]. Point is though you don't have to look that far to see disappointing employees.
Having recently [well a year ago] been through the college circuit I can safely say most of my peers are not really working comp.sci jobs at the moment.
I call bullshit. An arrow moves an order of magnitude slower than a.30 round [e.g. comparing 100s of fps to say 2 to 3 thousand fps].
When an.30 round hits the wall it has far more energy than an arrow head. Unless you have some form of supped up compound this is total bullshit.... my brother was an armor car driver. I've seen the trucks. They're rated to stop.223 and other small arms fire [though they have problems which usually hinder it, like the locks getting stuck in the winter]
Carbon fibre is also "stronger than steel" but pull it in the wrong way and it'll break like glass [which admitedly is usually the point]. What size/weight/type of projectile at what velocity will be stopped. That's useful.
Nice to know your vest will stop a handgun but if a.223 can go right through it, it won't be to useful against a properly armed adversary.
They're b-rated filler crap. Like "Storm Warning" on discovery channel [in Canada] or "Reno 911" on Comedy Central in the US [or anything with Lou Dobbs on CNN]. Most of what the discovery channel shows in Canada is totally retarded like "Extreme Machines" where they show the same five machines over and over and of course the occasional "super natural" show.
They use crap like that to fill up the day because the real shows you'd find interesting cost money. And they're not in the business of doing actual work.
Oh and I swear to god if I hear or see another "cocks" er. sorry "cox" commercial I'll hurt someone. It's just a dumb name and hearing "cocks" 20 times an hour is annoying [I was recently in hotels a lot with nothing more to do then watch TV and read...]
When I first read the sumary I thought it was an inline device but this actually requires the car to slow down, climb up [e.g. use engine inefficiently] and then depress.
What's so special? The "10kW" of power comes from the car engine burning fossil fuels.
I mean what next, "the alternator: a new free source of electricity!"
No matter where you come from, where you were educated, if you don't have the two brain cells rubbin together to form innovative solutions to REAL problems people have, you won't get/hold a solid job.
Simple as that.
I don't care how many degrees from whatever school you have. If you can't see past the quick buck to real problems and their solutions you're just a tool in my eyes. People look down on Indians and Chinese because they're a dime a dozen [literally and figuratively] but what makes you think your neighbours in your comp.sci classes are any more competent to do productive work?
I'm all for making money but only off things of value. Otherwise you waste a lot of time trying to sell [re: market] things of substantially lower value [re: intel processors] just to make sure you can stay in business [re: partner with Dell].
You clearly don't get it. As the elite they're entitled to their taxation of our society. Buy more "fitty sent" albums. Represent!
Is it just me or are the bulk of hip/hop rap style music entirely aimed at people with IQs in the 40s with only base instincts to guide them? Like I like video-hos like the next guy but bling, cash, cigar smoking and video-hos can only be the theme of rap videos for so long before people realize YOU AIN'T SIGNING REAL WORDS!
Oh, and can someone please just invite lohan, spears, simpson [both of them] and timberlake to a nevada test range or something?
I'm just tired of reading about this bullshit hero worship.
Think about it. There are probably a half dozen stories a year that somehow find their way to referencing dvd jon.
Now imagine they put the spotlight on some OSS developer or project instead? It encourages them to keep going [because everyone loves at least a little attention once in a while] and is more diverse for the audience.
There are a lot more people to hero-worship me thinks.
1. Name 5 kernel developers not including tree maintainers
2. Name 3 people who test GCC
3. Who wrote Nautilus?
4. Who wrote XMMS?
etc...
My point is he did a cool hack. Congrats. Stop playing him up like this all time champ for the OSS world. I'd say the people writing the tools [e.g. GCC] he used to compile it are also important.
Lot more work goes into making GCC capable for professional work than hacking decss together [keep in mind most incarnations of decss tools were CRAP for the longest while at first].
You can in certain fields. Though for the typical software windows idiots buy [e.g. text editors, IM clients, media players, etc] no.
But I would pay money for optizing compilers. As a matter of my profession having access to those tools is beneficial. GCC is great but ICC can smoke it in some circumstances [for instance]. I imagine studios would pay money for art tools [e.g. photoshop] over the free Gimp, etc.
Though yeah you're right in general most software that traditionally sold for money in the last decade is now being replaced by stuff in the OSS world. If people stopped clutching to old world business models we wouldn't need "anti-piracy" task forces.
Chances are it's just too expensive to produce, sales are not there and finally common sense won a battle.
When people are still buying 6600/6800 cards as their "desired choice" it's not hard to see the 7800 as a failed product in terms of making the company money.
It's along the lines of the AMD FX-57 which most stores don't carry and it can take a week or more to order in. Just isn't much sales for a 1300$ processor:-)
hehehe I wouldn't know. I went to a public school...:-)
Point is Americans live good not entirely because of hard work on their part. If they're really worried about immigrants stealing jobs they'd stop enjoying slave labour [e.g. nike and all other clothing shops basically] and pay fair wages for work.
You think if some person in a Nike shop was making [say] $14USD/hr they would need to immigrate?...
What's more useful? A billion dollars to immigrate the poor or a billion dollars to educate the poor?
You can give them all the food in the world but if you don't educate them what's te point?
You know "give a man a fish, feed for a day, teach a man to fish..." which is odd because the USA is the largest pro-jesus country in the world and they totally ignore the positive teachings. They're all cool with frying people on an electric chair. I mean that's justice. But teach some wetback how to add or multiply and you're just a socialist commie freak and should be smited...
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I googled, found another gentoo user with the same chipset [possibly the one good thing from Intdell] and set a modeline in X. Admitedly without the other user I wouldn't have figured it out on my own but that goes to show.
With the 915GM chipset you have to use the vesa driver for now with a specific modeline and then use the 915resolution to remap mode "45" to 1280x800 [if you're in 16bpp mode].
Tom
Your comment about cflags shows your newbieness.
... ... ...
The power of Gentoo doesn't come from the cflags it comes from the USE flags.
e.g.
emerge gimp
no tiff support
USE=tiff emerge gimp
with tiff support.
See the difference?
apt-get install gimp
no tiff support
USE=tiff apt-get install gimp
no tiff support
PLEASE_USE=tiff apt-get install gimp
no tiff support
See the difference?
Tom
Why so defensive? I find something easy to use and I must be a zealot.
All I'm saying is dealing with dependencies is easy in Gentoo. Hence the comment about "building from source" being a problem can be mitigated with the right choice of distro. If ubuntu or Debian can do this as well, all the power to them.
From my experience Gentoo is a lot easier to configure [e.g. try installing The GIMP with tiff support in Debian...] than other distros and it isn't hard at all to work with. If that makes me a "zealot" or "idiot 11 yr old" then so be it.
It also makes me a happy Gentoo user who accomplishes productive work because my distro provides me with the tools and configurations I need to do the said work.
Tom
Gentoo is not hard to install.
/usr/portage
....
I've installed it dozens of times and now I don't even use the f'ing manual.
Basics
1. make sure hardware modules loaded
2. fdisk
3. format
4. mount
5. unpack stage1 and snapshot [or just make
6. emerge sync
7. make make.conf [or copy from other boxes]
8. bootstrap
9. emerge -U system
10. install lilo, syslog-ng, dcron, hotplug, coldplug
11. download and unpack kernel
12. Configure, make and install
13. set root passwd
14. reboot
15. setup hostname, network, etc
16. install world packages [e.g. gnome, mozilla, gaim, cvs, tetex, whatever]
17. Clean up distfiles
18. tarball your filesystem
19. burn to DVD and call it "my stage 4 install"
20. enjoy.
Wow, complicated.
Basically after you've installed gentoo once it's simple every other time. It also gets you to learn the tools [e.g. how to fdisk/format/mount partitions without using a walkthrough] and configure a linux box.
I recently gentoo'ed my new Dell laptop [inspiron 630m which rocks btw as it supports linux very well] and the "world build" took 6 hours which I did overnight. I built about 380 packages from a command line that specified about 15 packages, e.g.
emerge -UD gnome mozilla openoffice-bin mplayer xmms tetex ggv cvs rcs gaim
After tweaking the video [to get 1280x800 working which took me all of two hours] I tarballed the drive [730MB bz2 file] and sent it to my RAID-1 for archiving.
Now if my HD dies I can get it replaced [under the dell warranty] and just untar. Boom, linux running in all of 5 mins.
Tom
It is if you use a real distro.
emerge gaim
Wow hard.
Tom
Do you honestly want to see the fuckers on the other end of an IM? I've met quite a few IMers in meatspace and they're not lookers.
Unless you got IM-hos on your list I can't see this being a deal breaker.
That and it's a stupid use of bandwidth. Downloading porn is better. It promotes an economy and is better to jerk off to than a fellow male from scotland or something otherwise equally perverted.
Tom
emerge gaim?
...
...newbs...
"all my time"
it takes 3 minutes to build at most [probably less]. How precious is your time that you can't background a build of gaim while doing work?
Tom
I pity all the folks who run windows by design or choice ... as for me, I run gentoo linux.
My two copies of windows I have live came in the form of
1. my new Dell laptop [which dual boots with gentoo linux as well, split my 100GB drive as 15GB for winxp and rest for gentoo]
2. My desktop where someone else bought me a copy of windows so I could do some crypto work for them.
I may hate microsoft but I keep a partition or two around just in case I get stuck with a windows job. [Though I wouldn't let windows touch any of my dual-core 64-bit boxes].
Tom
Um no. A typical razor broadhead is 100 grains. A typical .30 is 180 grains and a .223 is 70.
...
At best it's twice as heavy. Except the bullet is going 10x the velocity.
I'm no physics major but a compact car hitting you at 100km/h will do more damage than a midsize at 10km/h even though the midsize has more mass [which is the word you should be using in this discussion]
Tom
Think about it, he spends 365 days a year trying to screw people into using his companies inferior products, makes billions then spreads it around. I'm glad he's doing that at least, I'd be happier if he wasn't screwing multiple generations of humans with the shit products though.
I guess when I become a software tyrant and all around jackass I too can afford to spread some money and look all innocent.
Tom
hehehehe interesting story.
I'm not disagreeing that most indian call centres are useless [well actually most call centres period]. Point is though you don't have to look that far to see disappointing employees.
Having recently [well a year ago] been through the college circuit I can safely say most of my peers are not really working comp.sci jobs at the moment.
Tom
I call bullshit. An arrow moves an order of magnitude slower than a .30 round [e.g. comparing 100s of fps to say 2 to 3 thousand fps].
.30 round hits the wall it has far more energy than an arrow head. Unless you have some form of supped up compound this is total bullshit. ... my brother was an armor car driver. I've seen the trucks. They're rated to stop .223 and other small arms fire [though they have problems which usually hinder it, like the locks getting stuck in the winter]
When an
Tom
useless metric.
.223 can go right through it, it won't be to useful against a properly armed adversary.
Carbon fibre is also "stronger than steel" but pull it in the wrong way and it'll break like glass [which admitedly is usually the point]. What size/weight/type of projectile at what velocity will be stopped. That's useful.
Nice to know your vest will stop a handgun but if a
Tom
They're b-rated filler crap. Like "Storm Warning" on discovery channel [in Canada] or "Reno 911" on Comedy Central in the US [or anything with Lou Dobbs on CNN]. Most of what the discovery channel shows in Canada is totally retarded like "Extreme Machines" where they show the same five machines over and over and of course the occasional "super natural" show.
They use crap like that to fill up the day because the real shows you'd find interesting cost money. And they're not in the business of doing actual work.
Oh and I swear to god if I hear or see another "cocks" er. sorry "cox" commercial I'll hurt someone. It's just a dumb name and hearing "cocks" 20 times an hour is annoying [I was recently in hotels a lot with nothing more to do then watch TV and read...]
Tom
When I first read the sumary I thought it was an inline device but this actually requires the car to slow down, climb up [e.g. use engine inefficiently] and then depress.
What's so special? The "10kW" of power comes from the car engine burning fossil fuels.
I mean what next, "the alternator: a new free source of electricity!"
Tom
No matter where you come from, where you were educated, if you don't have the two brain cells rubbin together to form innovative solutions to REAL problems people have, you won't get/hold a solid job.
Simple as that.
I don't care how many degrees from whatever school you have. If you can't see past the quick buck to real problems and their solutions you're just a tool in my eyes. People look down on Indians and Chinese because they're a dime a dozen [literally and figuratively] but what makes you think your neighbours in your comp.sci classes are any more competent to do productive work?
I'm all for making money but only off things of value. Otherwise you waste a lot of time trying to sell [re: market] things of substantially lower value [re: intel processors] just to make sure you can stay in business [re: partner with Dell].
Tom
You clearly don't get it. As the elite they're entitled to their taxation of our society. Buy more "fitty sent" albums. Represent!
Is it just me or are the bulk of hip/hop rap style music entirely aimed at people with IQs in the 40s with only base instincts to guide them? Like I like video-hos like the next guy but bling, cash, cigar smoking and video-hos can only be the theme of rap videos for so long before people realize YOU AIN'T SIGNING REAL WORDS!
Oh, and can someone please just invite lohan, spears, simpson [both of them] and timberlake to a nevada test range or something?
Tom
I'm just tired of reading about this bullshit hero worship.
Think about it. There are probably a half dozen stories a year that somehow find their way to referencing dvd jon.
Now imagine they put the spotlight on some OSS developer or project instead? It encourages them to keep going [because everyone loves at least a little attention once in a while] and is more diverse for the audience.
Tom
No he didn't, nor did he figure out the algorithm. He's just the slap happy front end for the work.
That aside, there are way more important projects that don't get press like they should.
There are a lot more people to hero-worship me thinks.
1. Name 5 kernel developers not including tree maintainers
2. Name 3 people who test GCC
3. Who wrote Nautilus?
4. Who wrote XMMS?
etc...
My point is he did a cool hack. Congrats. Stop playing him up like this all time champ for the OSS world. I'd say the people writing the tools [e.g. GCC] he used to compile it are also important.
Lot more work goes into making GCC capable for professional work than hacking decss together [keep in mind most incarnations of decss tools were CRAP for the longest while at first].
Tom
How is this any different from "DVD Jon" or the earlier Mitnick bullshit?
Hackerextraordinaire indeed.
Tom
You can in certain fields. Though for the typical software windows idiots buy [e.g. text editors, IM clients, media players, etc] no.
But I would pay money for optizing compilers. As a matter of my profession having access to those tools is beneficial. GCC is great but ICC can smoke it in some circumstances [for instance]. I imagine studios would pay money for art tools [e.g. photoshop] over the free Gimp, etc.
Though yeah you're right in general most software that traditionally sold for money in the last decade is now being replaced by stuff in the OSS world. If people stopped clutching to old world business models we wouldn't need "anti-piracy" task forces.
Tom
Chances are it's just too expensive to produce, sales are not there and finally common sense won a battle.
:-)
:-)]
When people are still buying 6600/6800 cards as their "desired choice" it's not hard to see the 7800 as a failed product in terms of making the company money.
It's along the lines of the AMD FX-57 which most stores don't carry and it can take a week or more to order in. Just isn't much sales for a 1300$ processor
[though I'd get one if I weren't so poor
Tom
hehehe I wouldn't know. I went to a public school... :-)
...
Point is Americans live good not entirely because of hard work on their part. If they're really worried about immigrants stealing jobs they'd stop enjoying slave labour [e.g. nike and all other clothing shops basically] and pay fair wages for work.
You think if some person in a Nike shop was making [say] $14USD/hr they would need to immigrate?
Tom
What's more useful? A billion dollars to immigrate the poor or a billion dollars to educate the poor?
You can give them all the food in the world but if you don't educate them what's te point?
You know "give a man a fish, feed for a day, teach a man to fish..." which is odd because the USA is the largest pro-jesus country in the world and they totally ignore the positive teachings. They're all cool with frying people on an electric chair. I mean that's justice. But teach some wetback how to add or multiply and you're just a socialist commie freak and should be smited...
Tom