Two multinational mega-conglomerates walk into a bar. One says to the other "why so glum?" The other replies "People are finding out we're a total scam! We just don't have enough cleaners to take care of the whistle blowers."... Or something like that...
Dunno, my PC is built from parts all-over. None of which are HP, SUN or IBM. Yet I can crunch numbers with the best of them.
Sure if you're making a 1000 processor cluster you need something like IBM but for the average home user... no way.
I dunno, I think half the population of NY should have their licenses revoked. Sick fucks.
It isn't the speed that is the problem, it's the weaving in and out of traffic with 0.025 msec distance between cars that is the problem.
People really just don't pay attention to what they're doing and THAT'S WHY speeding is a problem. I'm sure if they were less self-involved and concerned with the well being of OTHER people it wouldn't be a problem.
I'm not just picking on the US though... it's the same here in Canada and France is no better either.
What you should hold your breath for is for when people realize two simultaneous things
1. Fuel companies are acting like monopolies 2. Big Cars, Speeding => higher fuel consumption => higher demand => higher prices.
Of course nobody would ever speak out against the "totally new 2005 huge-mungo" because if they can't burn as much fuel as a 747 on take-off just by driving to work then they're not in a "free country".
By your logic the radar gun is the accuser in other cases. Your "friend" is full of shit and so are you for repeating the nonsense garbage.
Even if your friend does get off it's ONLY becuase they don't want to pay the engineer who built the system a couple grand to show up in court over a 100$ ticket.
So congrats. You're friend is either a liar or just a plain old jerk [or both]. Stop speeding you self-centered retarded monkey fuck. Then you won't have to worry about this.
It's more a sign that education is not the goal of schools anymore.
I mean a big sign would be the "Introductory Calculus, 10th edition" requirement for your Calc 101 classes...
*10th edition*
How does a competent mathematician make sufficient errors to require TEN REPRINTS of an introductory calculus book? The same applies to chemistry and physics.
You want to learn computer science? Pick up some 30 yr old texts like Algorithms, TAOCP, etc, etc. Then go solve problems [compression, compiling, etc, etc, etc].
Though, all negativity aside I did extract value out of most of my courses. Just that they did try that shit. fortunately I'm smart enough to use google.
I'd be happy if you just got over yourself. Alternatively, you could MAYBE just be LESS [annoying].
You're really new here [to life] then. No matter what, and I mean anything, you do, good or bad, proper intentions or not, no matter what you do, someone will find a fault with it.
You could donate 1000s of hours of work and still someone would troll you, emailing hate mail and posting nonsense shit in [for instance] usenet. All because you accomplished something with your life and they haven't.
Maybe I could do something to make YOU SPECIFICALLY like me more but that wouldn't make everyone like me and in the grand scheme of things it's a trade off.
Why do I talk smack about the business? Because I know how ridiculously easy it is to make something open and interoperable. Seeing all these half-ass corporate attempts at engineering just makes me laugh...
I mean really, if they spent less time commercializing things and more time making the demand for it justifyable you'd end up with products that work and you can rely on.
Ok, I'll pay for you to fly to Ottawa, then we can shop "mr. retail store". You point out to me the cards that are NATIVELY supported in linux and not through ndiswrapper or intersil firmware.
Oh, you mean I can buy BUNDLED LAPTOPS with things like centrino? Well good for fucking them.
If I can't walk into Futureshop and buy a PCMCIA card with a compatible chipset then that's effectively "nothing available".
You're new here. If we had to go through our entire line of thinking each time we shot down a stupid idea that some poster is coming up with the slashdot DB would be a million times larger.
Suffice it to say there are WAY MORE businesses that are lame ducks then good ones.
If you need me to show you evidence of self-serving products then you need to open your fucking eyes.
That makes no sense. Just make it have a register "frequency" and have it reject out of band stuff ON DIE.
E.g. write the Khz you want to a 32-bit register... oh that's out of range... sucker!
I've heard the excuse you gave before but frankly I don't beleive it. It's TRIVIAL to put a switch somewhere in an ASIC to just trip and say "out of range".
And really when it gets down to it we don't need access to the radio, we need to say
read packet to $MEM of size $SIZE.
Write packet from $MEM of size $SIZE
Where "packet" is transmitted verbatim using the 802.11 encodings [QAM, FSK or whatever it is].
That way you can build an encryption/switching stack on top of that and you don't need access to the radio directly.
cat-5 has the added benefit [outside the obvious speed] of not being so supceptible to noise.
Even if there is noise I still maintain ~190Mbit/sec copying files from one RAID-5 to another RAID-1 at home using a 150$ Ge switch. [never really timed mem-to-mem operations which probably get upwards of 300-500Mbit/sec].
Let's see some wireless standard get that;-) [without the microwaving of people action].
It should be JUST the transceive protocol and standards. On top of that you build a crypto stack [like ipsec]. It's when you "re-invent the wheel" that you into trouble.
Of course that type of thinking is dangerous because then people could use it for something else... e.g. ipsec ontop of wimax or UWB or something.... wowswer!!!
My big problem with 802.11 isn't the standard it's the shitty implementations that pass as "compliant" at BestBut or other $RETAILER.
Hahaha, that's cute. You think companies that have differing standards are "innovating".
You must work for Microsoft...
Unfortunately if they could [and they do] they'd change just enough to lock out competitors. It isn't about being better anymore. You think if Intel had standing they'd need exclusive deals? They'd be able to still sell volume to Dell and not lock them in if their product was worth a damn.
Same for many others [Atrac3 anyone?].
Business is not about being fair and open market'ish. It's about making lots of money doing $ANYTHING.
When companies can't even make cards for 802.11 that support open kernels [bsd, linux] because "it's too hard" or whatever,..., what hope have we for new standards?
I mean as it stands most retail wi-fi cards don't work in linux [except for prism54 intersil style which are hit and miss].
The problem isn't the underlying standard [though I'd say it's overtly complicated for such a simple idea] it's the idiots running the decisions.
I mean if a handful of ***amateur radio*** folk can make a 56K link work OVER KILOMETERS of space... why can't "the best and brightest" make a 11Mbps network work in a 100ft area with OSes that are well available and documented?
And it isn't even that you have to write drivers. Make a good card and open the interface up and people will write the drivers FOR YOU.
Um you do realize that they basically make chips by shining light(s) through a mask [think overhead projector] then a lense [or vice versa] onto a PHOTO SENSITIVE chemical that they then wash off right?
Nobody sits there and "places transistors". They're made by the bulk and yes they do have a significant throwaway percentage.
If you walk away with 300 of 540 P4 dies on a 300mm wafer I think they call that a good day [it's probably higher than that I imagine].
That's the first thing I did... google for boot up codes.
NONE of them worked. I even bough a MacOS approved logitech USB keyboard specifically for this box.
The MacMini is just a POS as far as a "general purpose computer" goes. It's a mighty fine web browser... but you don't need a 650$ computer to browse the web...
Perhaps. I dunno, smaller throwaway things [of which I've written a few] are different. but a DNS server for which you stand behind [e.g. brag how unbroken it is] is another.
That and he's a friggin comp.sci professor, you think the user interface/support side of things would come into play.
The problem is if you did know would you believe it?
What if the answer really is that simple. You exist because a random convergence of material formed this solar system and eventually stabalized this planet and human life is the current evolution...
Now... the question of why any of this exists [as you pointed out] is another question... of course then you face the realization that none of this actually exists at the same time as all of this exists.....
Patents, like gasoline are just something kids two generations from now will be talking about in history class.
The end is near! Front row tickets still available!
Tom
Two multinational mega-conglomerates walk into a bar. One says to the other "why so glum?" The other replies "People are finding out we're a total scam! We just don't have enough cleaners to take care of the whistle blowers." ... Or something like that ...
Dunno, my PC is built from parts all-over. None of which are HP, SUN or IBM. Yet I can crunch numbers with the best of them.
Sure if you're making a 1000 processor cluster you need something like IBM but for the average home user... no way.
And that's where the money is at y0.
Tom
Don't let little things like "facts" stand in the way of a good rant. ;-)
Tom
I don't get this one though. I write open source software so people can use it. "leaching" is what they're doing by nature.
;-)]
I mean how many Linux users really contribute back to the Kernel?
People used to be afraid of companies running off and locking people buying HW to a given OS.
Now because most OSS is written by kids [e.g. 25] they're just afraid of being left behind and not noticed.
The actual motives for a GPL or BSD or whatever license rarely has to do with the original goals.
Becase, really, if you want code to be just out there for folk to use you could make it public domain [like I do
Tom
I dunno, I think half the population of NY should have their licenses revoked. Sick fucks.
It isn't the speed that is the problem, it's the weaving in and out of traffic with 0.025 msec distance between cars that is the problem.
People really just don't pay attention to what they're doing and THAT'S WHY speeding is a problem. I'm sure if they were less self-involved and concerned with the well being of OTHER people it wouldn't be a problem.
I'm not just picking on the US though... it's the same here in Canada and France is no better either.
What you should hold your breath for is for when people realize two simultaneous things
1. Fuel companies are acting like monopolies
2. Big Cars, Speeding => higher fuel consumption => higher demand => higher prices.
Of course nobody would ever speak out against the "totally new 2005 huge-mungo" because if they can't burn as much fuel as a 747 on take-off just by driving to work then they're not in a "free country".
Tom
Oh I'm sure.
By your logic the radar gun is the accuser in other cases. Your "friend" is full of shit and so are you for repeating the nonsense garbage.
Even if your friend does get off it's ONLY becuase they don't want to pay the engineer who built the system a couple grand to show up in court over a 100$ ticket.
So congrats. You're friend is either a liar or just a plain old jerk [or both]. Stop speeding you self-centered retarded monkey fuck. Then you won't have to worry about this.
Tom
Resold? That's where new editions come out
...
Though, some math.
Buy book at retail cost, 100%. Sell it to next semester student for half price... 50%...
Or buy this book at 66% cost and then have your friend buy it at 66% cost
Hmm... I wonder which makes more money for them in the end?
GEE I WONDER!!!
Tom
It's more a sign that education is not the goal of schools anymore.
I mean a big sign would be the "Introductory Calculus, 10th edition" requirement for your Calc 101 classes...
*10th edition*
How does a competent mathematician make sufficient errors to require TEN REPRINTS of an introductory calculus book? The same applies to chemistry and physics.
You want to learn computer science? Pick up some 30 yr old texts like Algorithms, TAOCP, etc, etc. Then go solve problems [compression, compiling, etc, etc, etc].
Though, all negativity aside I did extract value out of most of my courses. Just that they did try that shit. fortunately I'm smart enough to use google.
Tom
I'd be happy if you just got over yourself. Alternatively, you could MAYBE just be LESS [annoying].
You're really new here [to life] then. No matter what, and I mean anything, you do, good or bad, proper intentions or not, no matter what you do, someone will find a fault with it.
You could donate 1000s of hours of work and still someone would troll you, emailing hate mail and posting nonsense shit in [for instance] usenet. All because you accomplished something with your life and they haven't.
Maybe I could do something to make YOU SPECIFICALLY like me more but that wouldn't make everyone like me and in the grand scheme of things it's a trade off.
Why do I talk smack about the business? Because I know how ridiculously easy it is to make something open and interoperable. Seeing all these half-ass corporate attempts at engineering just makes me laugh...
I mean really, if they spent less time commercializing things and more time making the demand for it justifyable you'd end up with products that work and you can rely on.
Tom
.... flame posted as AC...
Wow imagine that.
Tom
Um, first off, 802.11 is essentially universal. I've used my laptop in Europe without trouble.
Second, how hard is it to make a run of North American, run of Asian, etc chips? This really sounds like a "non problem".
Tom
Ok, I'll pay for you to fly to Ottawa, then we can shop "mr. retail store". You point out to me the cards that are NATIVELY supported in linux and not through ndiswrapper or intersil firmware.
Oh, you mean I can buy BUNDLED LAPTOPS with things like centrino? Well good for fucking them.
If I can't walk into Futureshop and buy a PCMCIA card with a compatible chipset then that's effectively "nothing available".
Tom
You're new here. If we had to go through our entire line of thinking each time we shot down a stupid idea that some poster is coming up with the slashdot DB would be a million times larger.
Suffice it to say there are WAY MORE businesses that are lame ducks then good ones.
If you need me to show you evidence of self-serving products then you need to open your fucking eyes.
Tom
That makes no sense. Just make it have a register "frequency" and have it reject out of band stuff ON DIE.
... oh that's out of range... sucker!
E.g. write the Khz you want to a 32-bit register
I've heard the excuse you gave before but frankly I don't beleive it. It's TRIVIAL to put a switch somewhere in an ASIC to just trip and say "out of range".
And really when it gets down to it we don't need access to the radio, we need to say
read packet to $MEM of size $SIZE.
Write packet from $MEM of size $SIZE
Where "packet" is transmitted verbatim using the 802.11 encodings [QAM, FSK or whatever it is].
That way you can build an encryption/switching stack on top of that and you don't need access to the radio directly.
cat-5 has the added benefit [outside the obvious speed] of not being so supceptible to noise.
;-) [without the microwaving of people action].
Even if there is noise I still maintain ~190Mbit/sec copying files from one RAID-5 to another RAID-1 at home using a 150$ Ge switch. [never really timed mem-to-mem operations which probably get upwards of 300-500Mbit/sec].
Let's see some wireless standard get that
Tom
People have to think of things like filters.
802.11 should NEVER have had crypto in there.
It should be JUST the transceive protocol and standards. On top of that you build a crypto stack [like ipsec]. It's when you "re-invent the wheel" that you into trouble.
Of course that type of thinking is dangerous because then people could use it for something else... e.g. ipsec ontop of wimax or UWB or something.... wowswer!!!
My big problem with 802.11 isn't the standard it's the shitty implementations that pass as "compliant" at BestBut or other $RETAILER.
Tom
Hahaha, that's cute. You think companies that have differing standards are "innovating".
You must work for Microsoft...
Unfortunately if they could [and they do] they'd change just enough to lock out competitors. It isn't about being better anymore. You think if Intel had standing they'd need exclusive deals? They'd be able to still sell volume to Dell and not lock them in if their product was worth a damn.
Same for many others [Atrac3 anyone?].
Business is not about being fair and open market'ish. It's about making lots of money doing $ANYTHING.
Tom
When companies can't even make cards for 802.11 that support open kernels [bsd, linux] because "it's too hard" or whatever, ..., what hope have we for new standards?
I mean as it stands most retail wi-fi cards don't work in linux [except for prism54 intersil style which are hit and miss].
The problem isn't the underlying standard [though I'd say it's overtly complicated for such a simple idea] it's the idiots running the decisions.
I mean if a handful of ***amateur radio*** folk can make a 56K link work OVER KILOMETERS of space... why can't "the best and brightest" make a 11Mbps network work in a 100ft area with OSes that are well available and documented?
And it isn't even that you have to write drivers. Make a good card and open the interface up and people will write the drivers FOR YOU.
Tom
Fuck, I bought my own computer when I was 16. My parents had a family computer for me to use before that...
But seriously, if your high school aged kid can't hold down a job to buy a computer that costs 400$ then they're not deserving of a laptop anyways.
Like your kid won't explode if they don't have a computer. And maybe "saving up to buy a computer" will help make your kids goal oriented.
Tom
I don't see the difference, you're relying on the coating to be smooth and uniform for the die to work now...
This is basically going backwards. Provided your coating is even you should get the tubes in ever "nook and cranny".
Tom
Windows is NOT easy to use *correctly*.
This "ease of use" includes people running as Admin with all the services running and basically wide open to the universe. That's "ease of use".
I won't pretend that Linux or BSD is any easier but I really don't think this "ease of use" label is meaningful.
"Chainsaws are easy to use!" -- Said the current reigning king of the one armed people.
Tom
Um you do realize that they basically make chips by shining light(s) through a mask [think overhead projector] then a lense [or vice versa] onto a PHOTO SENSITIVE chemical that they then wash off right?
Nobody sits there and "places transistors". They're made by the bulk and yes they do have a significant throwaway percentage.
If you walk away with 300 of 540 P4 dies on a 300mm wafer I think they call that a good day [it's probably higher than that I imagine].
Tom
That's the first thing I did ... google for boot up codes.
NONE of them worked. I even bough a MacOS approved logitech USB keyboard specifically for this box.
The MacMini is just a POS as far as a "general purpose computer" goes. It's a mighty fine web browser... but you don't need a 650$ computer to browse the web...
Tom
Perhaps. I dunno, smaller throwaway things [of which I've written a few] are different. but a DNS server for which you stand behind [e.g. brag how unbroken it is] is another.
That and he's a friggin comp.sci professor, you think the user interface/support side of things would come into play.
Tom
The problem is if you did know would you believe it?
....
What if the answer really is that simple. You exist because a random convergence of material formed this solar system and eventually stabalized this planet and human life is the current evolution...
Now... the question of why any of this exists [as you pointed out] is another question... of course then you face the realization that none of this actually exists at the same time as all of this exists.
uh my brain hurts...
tom