ahem... the original GBA can emulate a NES just fine;-)
It's all about table lookup decodes. The z80 has all at most 256 instructions. The real tricky part is emulating the MMCs [memory map controllers] and audio/timer hardware in sync.
Actually emulating the cpu isn't so hard.
Tom
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*clap* *clap* *clap*..... and?
I can't honestly say I know anyone who uses or considers running RISCOS...
Why not post the number of Firefox users on the original Mac Classic? I've got an Atari 2600 that could use some lovin!
This is a very niche OS that few people care to use.
Standards compliance. The problem with ECS is they don't have them.
Like many others I've had numerous ASUS boards [on both sides of the Intel/AMD camps] and the most significant problem I've had [outside of things that are my fault] was a BIOS reflashing that failed because the shipping BIOS with my A7V [1004 if you're wondering] was faulty.
ASUS boards rarely if ever have problems with newer tech such as new PCI/AGP cards and often at most a BIOS update is all that is required.
The problem I have with this is VERY LITTLE of previous material is worth thinking about anyways. I mean how many door games were just the product of 15 mins of work? Sure there were the popular/influential ones like LORD or SimBBS [or a dozen others] but a lot of stuff that was available was just pure SHITE.
First off, how much data is actually on tapes [that home computers used] that is worth saving that hasn't already moved to a hard disk or cdrom?
I mean even during the BBS boom you could fill an entire shareware collection [omitting dupes and things that JUST PLAIN SUCK] onto a single DVD with enough room to have a 15 minute music video.
So let's burn the data to media and make copies to be sent around the world.
Agreed. People take the path of least resistance through college then wonder why they find it hard to get/keep a job.
Granted I'm not a stellar example of success but I did manage to find a job straight out of college that pays decently and is fairly interesting. Just happens there aren't many cryptographers in Ottawa;-)
Whatever, you think learning is bad. I can't convince you otherwise.
Should people take computer courses? Hell yes. Welcome to 2005. If you're not retired and plan to work for a living chances are you're gonna touch a computer.
You'll then tell me that many jobs don't use computers [short order clerks, clowns, prostitutes,...].
The problem is no matter how well you design the fort if you leave the gate open you're screwed.
Like you can make Outlook as exploitless as possible. If people just download and run random.exe files emailed to them you're hosed.
You can make a car as safe as possible but if you drive it when it's all rusted out or in disrepair you're gonna put yourself at risk.
The problem is nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions. Let's keep in mind you have to GIVE your password to the phisher. It's not like they read your mind. So yes, it's criminal to use the information for fraud but you're the one who gave it to them.
Similarly, yes you're not at fault when your rustbucket get tboned but it sure is gonna suck when their car goes straight through yours...
Being right and hurt isn't always the best.
The problem is people fill their minds with tons of useless information, like what timonica wore last night on the new real not-fake gilligans island. Hey, read a fucking book instead. Or do a google on how phishing works!
"The parent's point was that you don't need to know the intricate working details of everything in order to be able to effectively use it. That's the whole point of technology, we put enough layers on top of all the nitty-gritty so that what was once a complex task because simple."
If you call knowing how to decode a URL "nitty-gritty"... that's sad.
"You don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to effectively drive a car. Someone purposefully put a lot of effort into making a car simple to drive so that almost anyone could do it without needing to be a mechanical engineer."
That's a sales ploy. Having the average idiot drive a car is not a good thing. Look at all the morons on the road today. You think if they had some knowledge of how their cars worked and a working knowledge of the rules of the road w.r.t. safe driving that we'd see people doing 90mph on the Long Island expressway?
And I never said you have to look over the schematics.
But knowing how to use windows and email [e.g. why not to use HTML, how to decode a URL, etc] can let you make way better use of your tool. Let's not forget that computers are tools.
If you want something to make noise that is easy to use buy a furby.
Yeah granted jobs are going to lower-income economies. Economic-darwinism will win there in the long run in one of two ways.
1. Their quality of life [and therefore pay] will raise
2. The companies they produce software for will faulter as the quality diminishes.
Sadly #2 is less likely as the level of QA expected from the average consumer is zero [e.g. Windows XP].
If you want to secure your future in the comp.sci world make yourself useful. And sadly "knowing ASP" is not useful enough. If you mixed in say DSP, compiler theory or cryptography or something like that you'd stand a chance.
What I said is people who CHOOSE to be ignorant deserve what they get.
If you get ramrodded on some obscure piece of information that a reasonable person who attempted to cover their bases misses... that's another story.
If you're just too lazy to take a semester of "outlook for dummies" at your local state college... then why bother using a computer at all?
By your logic, anyone should be able to hop into a plane and fly around. Afterall, forcing training and knowledge on people is the act of a zealot crazy person.
Hell why stop there, let's give children weapons unsupervised because safety regulations [and knowing of them] is for chumps!
A lot of people simply are wilfully ignorant about how the tools they take for granted actually work.
What the fuck do they spend their time doing? I mean I go out and have fun [and do road trips, etc] yet I still managed to figure out how computers work.
Honestly give a deep look at what you're saying. You're saying people should buy 30,000$ cars without looking into them. They should spend 1000s of dollars on medical treatment without reviewing the facts....
What next, buy a $250K house without first stepping into it?
I think a little knowledge in the respective fields [even if just for the purchase] could be a very GOOD IDEA.
Besides, if you knew how your car works you'd probably get more out of it. For instance, what's the tire pressure of all four tires? What's your current highway mpg? What are your emissions ratings? Are there any dents or damages to the car? etc...
Why would knowing those things be a bad idea?
As for medicine, if you knew how nutrition works you'd probably live longer and better. You wouldn't be at the doctors as often, etc...
So what? Should we all eat bigmacs all day because "knowing things sucks".
As for economies, if you're investing money why not just give it to me. I'll handle it for you. Why bother doing research. Why bother supporting local economies over foreign ones [e.g. walmart], etc, etc, etc.
You're seriously sitting there and saying "knowing things is a bad idea"...
Stupid people give their account information to losers who can't find jobs [whether through their fault or not].
Basically it boils down to people jump on the technology bandwagon but then refuse to actually learn anything about it. Then they get taken advantage of because they are STUPID.
It's funny when people say "but tom, forcing people to learn how computers work before using them is stupid".... and phishing works because?
It's just like the occasional garage or two that will break or "fix" additional things to raise up the bill just because the average car user doesn't know shit about how a car works let alone the current state of their car.
Being ignorant by choice is not intelligent. Sure you can't learn everything there is but honestly how much training does it take to learn how to use a web browser effectively [e.g. learn how to properly login to a website and check a CA cert]....?
shhhh socialism is bad. Capitalism is good. Make those nike shoes slave worker *crack of whip*.
The best part of it all is that America is for all intents and purposes capitalist-socialist, what with their public hospitals, roads, schools, FDA, NIST, etc, etc, etc... Yet the hard core "patriots" are chanting "god bless privatization!".
Really hypocritical.
But whatever, I love visiting the states. It's like an episode of Sliders where everything looks similar [I'm from Canada] but just slightly different. Your rent-a-cops wear cowboy hats, you have school competitions in local centers like shopping malls, and my favourite is being asked for directions from a resident [I was in Syracuse at the time...] because they never drove the 40Miles it is to the next town before...
Suppose you removed the FDA from the picture. Do you think food companies would advise their customers of the potential risks?
Take climatix it's 27% effective and has only caused 18 heart attacks in our 24 case patients!
As for education, it's a big world. The sooner you realize that the better. Global standards in education are not something to be mandated by every school CEO but something that will give you a fighting chance in the real world.
As for "roads". Private companies build the roads already. But do you want to pay a toll for every turn you make on your way to work? That's what private roads means.
As for electricity standards it isn't just what's common but what's mandated. Would you like everything in your home to be vaporized because "there are no standards"? Who's gonna set the standards [not just on the desired results but averages, tolerance, uptime]. Same goes for telecon.
As for banking, who do you whine to when all your money in the world has been leached from a bank account? The bank itself or the FBI?
etc, etc, etc.
The thought that private corporations will act with your wellbeing in mind over their profits is just ludicrous. Look at companies like Walmart and McDonalds [among many others]. Pay their employees crap and sell very low quality goods because for the most part they can get away with it.
You could say "people have a choice" but when you can sell a 1$ meal to someone who isn't smart enough to question it [because why should they, McDonalds is trying to sell a quality meal] the real restaurants lose out.
And that's just the point. People think like you. They think that the clerk is smiling because they want to help you get that low rate mortgage or a fuel efficient car. They don't realize that it's just about a sale. That's the private world for you.
Now granted the government [of pretty much any nation] has and can find ways to mess things up. It doesn't mean we should remove the government from any control. Afterall we elected the government that is supposed to enforce these standards in the first place!!!
You don't need a Vic-20 to read an audio cassette tape... you just need something that can capture the audio stream, some sort of analogue signal converter capable of producing a binary digit stream. Something like an "analogue-to-digital" converter if such said device exists all our problems are saved!.../sarcasm
Yes, retro computing is cool. No, it's not required to read ancient recording formats.
You do realize that the government gives grants and scholarships to students right?
I think you have a very naive view of the role of Government. It's not just to play police but also to make sure the various facets of your daily life go smoothly.
Do you like food that doesn't kill you or drugs that are effective? That's the FDA.
Do you like knowing you won't be defrauded by huge companies [*] or investment scams? That's SEC.
Do you like knowing that your kids can go to a school where there are minimal standards that are required to advance? That's another facet of state government.
Do you like driving on roads with street signs and lights?
Do you like electricity that follows north american standards?
Do you like standard cryptography that can protect [**] your banking and medical transactions?
etc, etc, etc...
The government has a hand in many aspects of your daily life that you either ignore or didn't know about.
Yes, all these things could be ran by the CEO of their respective companies. Schools could have their own curriculum and standards. Water plants could have their own levels of "clean enough". etc, etc, etc...
You vote for your government to represent you on these issues. That's why you have NIST for example.
In the case of a chemical database there is no reason why a publicly funded org can't do it. If it's the will of the people then so be it.
No, and why would it? The original pentium core only went up to around 233Mhz. The other Pentiums that hit the Ghz range are the P3 and PM.
They both have a higher IPC than the P4, so no a 1Ghz P4 is not the same as a 1Ghz P3... [it's slower].
In the AMD world they're not always the same either. A 1Ghz AMD64 would be faster in most cases than a 1Ghz AMD32 [e.g. Barton] because of the extra registers and more decode/execute resources [e.g. larger instruction scheduler, more DirectPath opcodes, etc].
147 NES games on my flashcart... last's me just fine on 10 hour flights over the ocean... and better yet you can listen to your mp3cd player... AND HAVE 200$ in your pocket!!!;-)
But that's my point. I just wanna know the reasoning in their head.
Hey guys, terrorism is bad right? Yeah, ok so let's revoke the 4th admendment! Because clearly this won't affect anyone I know it has no negative consequences!...
They too have to live with the world they create is my point. So wouldn't they be more interested in how to best secure the nation with the least amount of disruption to the normal order of things?
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ahem... the original GBA can emulate a NES just fine ;-)
It's all about table lookup decodes. The z80 has all at most 256 instructions. The real tricky part is emulating the MMCs [memory map controllers] and audio/timer hardware in sync.
Actually emulating the cpu isn't so hard.
Tom
*clap* *clap* *clap*..... and?
I can't honestly say I know anyone who uses or considers running RISCOS...
Why not post the number of Firefox users on the original Mac Classic? I've got an Atari 2600 that could use some lovin!
This is a very niche OS that few people care to use.
Tom
Standards compliance. The problem with ECS is they don't have them.
Like many others I've had numerous ASUS boards [on both sides of the Intel/AMD camps] and the most significant problem I've had [outside of things that are my fault] was a BIOS reflashing that failed because the shipping BIOS with my A7V [1004 if you're wondering] was faulty.
ASUS boards rarely if ever have problems with newer tech such as new PCI/AGP cards and often at most a BIOS update is all that is required.
Tom
The problem I have with this is VERY LITTLE of previous material is worth thinking about anyways. I mean how many door games were just the product of 15 mins of work? Sure there were the popular/influential ones like LORD or SimBBS [or a dozen others] but a lot of stuff that was available was just pure SHITE.
tom
Oh, you're mistaken. Our unemployment is higher because we actually KEEP TRACK of people not working. ;-)
Tom
[I'm just messing around here, no "wanna fight about it" please...]
First off, how much data is actually on tapes [that home computers used] that is worth saving that hasn't already moved to a hard disk or cdrom?
I mean even during the BBS boom you could fill an entire shareware collection [omitting dupes and things that JUST PLAIN SUCK] onto a single DVD with enough room to have a 15 minute music video.
So let's burn the data to media and make copies to be sent around the world.
Tom
Agreed. People take the path of least resistance through college then wonder why they find it hard to get/keep a job.
;-)
Granted I'm not a stellar example of success but I did manage to find a job straight out of college that pays decently and is fairly interesting. Just happens there aren't many cryptographers in Ottawa
Tom
s/clerks/cooks/
Stupid replying to zealots is taking up too much time...
Tom
Whatever, you think learning is bad. I can't convince you otherwise.
...].
Should people take computer courses? Hell yes. Welcome to 2005. If you're not retired and plan to work for a living chances are you're gonna touch a computer.
You'll then tell me that many jobs don't use computers [short order clerks, clowns, prostitutes,
Well, they also don't use math.
Tom
The problem is no matter how well you design the fort if you leave the gate open you're screwed.
.exe files emailed to them you're hosed.
Like you can make Outlook as exploitless as possible. If people just download and run random
You can make a car as safe as possible but if you drive it when it's all rusted out or in disrepair you're gonna put yourself at risk.
The problem is nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions. Let's keep in mind you have to GIVE your password to the phisher. It's not like they read your mind. So yes, it's criminal to use the information for fraud but you're the one who gave it to them.
Similarly, yes you're not at fault when your rustbucket get tboned but it sure is gonna suck when their car goes straight through yours...
Being right and hurt isn't always the best.
The problem is people fill their minds with tons of useless information, like what timonica wore last night on the new real not-fake gilligans island. Hey, read a fucking book instead. Or do a google on how phishing works!
Tom
Canada has 40% unemployment?
/ lfs-en.htm
Do a google search you xenophobic fucking idiot.
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Subjects/Labour/LFS
Wow it's 7% in Canada.
What's it in the USA?
http://www.bls.gov/
It's 5%.
Yeah, we're SOOO WORSE off here in Canada....
Tom
"The parent's point was that you don't need to know the intricate working details of everything in order to be able to effectively use it. That's the whole point of technology, we put enough layers on top of all the nitty-gritty so that what was once a complex task because simple."
... that's sad.
If you call knowing how to decode a URL "nitty-gritty"
"You don't need to know how an internal combustion engine works to effectively drive a car. Someone purposefully put a lot of effort into making a car simple to drive so that almost anyone could do it without needing to be a mechanical engineer."
That's a sales ploy. Having the average idiot drive a car is not a good thing. Look at all the morons on the road today. You think if they had some knowledge of how their cars worked and a working knowledge of the rules of the road w.r.t. safe driving that we'd see people doing 90mph on the Long Island expressway?
And I never said you have to look over the schematics.
But knowing how to use windows and email [e.g. why not to use HTML, how to decode a URL, etc] can let you make way better use of your tool. Let's not forget that computers are tools.
If you want something to make noise that is easy to use buy a furby.
Tom
One more word: Scapegoat
Yeah granted jobs are going to lower-income economies. Economic-darwinism will win there in the long run in one of two ways.
1. Their quality of life [and therefore pay] will raise
2. The companies they produce software for will faulter as the quality diminishes.
Sadly #2 is less likely as the level of QA expected from the average consumer is zero [e.g. Windows XP].
If you want to secure your future in the comp.sci world make yourself useful. And sadly "knowing ASP" is not useful enough. If you mixed in say DSP, compiler theory or cryptography or something like that you'd stand a chance.
Tom
I don't get your post.
... that's another story.
What I said is people who CHOOSE to be ignorant deserve what they get.
If you get ramrodded on some obscure piece of information that a reasonable person who attempted to cover their bases misses
If you're just too lazy to take a semester of "outlook for dummies" at your local state college... then why bother using a computer at all?
By your logic, anyone should be able to hop into a plane and fly around. Afterall, forcing training and knowledge on people is the act of a zealot crazy person.
Hell why stop there, let's give children weapons unsupervised because safety regulations [and knowing of them] is for chumps!
A lot of people simply are wilfully ignorant about how the tools they take for granted actually work.
What the fuck do they spend their time doing? I mean I go out and have fun [and do road trips, etc] yet I still managed to figure out how computers work.
I guess you're right, I must be a geniOUS.
Tom
Are you advocating ignorance?
Honestly give a deep look at what you're saying. You're saying people should buy 30,000$ cars without looking into them. They should spend 1000s of dollars on medical treatment without reviewing the facts....
What next, buy a $250K house without first stepping into it?
I think a little knowledge in the respective fields [even if just for the purchase] could be a very GOOD IDEA.
Besides, if you knew how your car works you'd probably get more out of it. For instance, what's the tire pressure of all four tires? What's your current highway mpg? What are your emissions ratings? Are there any dents or damages to the car? etc...
Why would knowing those things be a bad idea?
As for medicine, if you knew how nutrition works you'd probably live longer and better. You wouldn't be at the doctors as often, etc...
So what? Should we all eat bigmacs all day because "knowing things sucks".
As for economies, if you're investing money why not just give it to me. I'll handle it for you. Why bother doing research. Why bother supporting local economies over foreign ones [e.g. walmart], etc, etc, etc.
You're seriously sitting there and saying "knowing things is a bad idea"...
Tom
What you mean a soldering iron shouldn't work on four AA batteries? You lie!
Getting hooked on crappy TV ad: 29.95$
Going to store to buy four AAA batteries: 10$
Going to store to return AAA and buy AA: 2$
Current draw of average soldering iron: 500mAh.
Average battery capacity: 2100mAh.
Going through 8 AA batteries a day: Priceless.
Tom
Stupid people give their account information to losers who can't find jobs [whether through their fault or not].
... and phishing works because?
Basically it boils down to people jump on the technology bandwagon but then refuse to actually learn anything about it. Then they get taken advantage of because they are STUPID.
It's funny when people say "but tom, forcing people to learn how computers work before using them is stupid".
It's just like the occasional garage or two that will break or "fix" additional things to raise up the bill just because the average car user doesn't know shit about how a car works let alone the current state of their car.
Being ignorant by choice is not intelligent. Sure you can't learn everything there is but honestly how much training does it take to learn how to use a web browser effectively [e.g. learn how to properly login to a website and check a CA cert]....?
Tom
shhhh socialism is bad. Capitalism is good. Make those nike shoes slave worker *crack of whip*.
The best part of it all is that America is for all intents and purposes capitalist-socialist, what with their public hospitals, roads, schools, FDA, NIST, etc, etc, etc... Yet the hard core "patriots" are chanting "god bless privatization!".
Really hypocritical.
But whatever, I love visiting the states. It's like an episode of Sliders where everything looks similar [I'm from Canada] but just slightly different. Your rent-a-cops wear cowboy hats, you have school competitions in local centers like shopping malls, and my favourite is being asked for directions from a resident [I was in Syracuse at the time...] because they never drove the 40Miles it is to the next town before...
hahahaha
Tom
Suppose you removed the FDA from the picture. Do you think food companies would advise their customers of the potential risks?
Take climatix it's 27% effective and has only caused 18 heart attacks in our 24 case patients!
As for education, it's a big world. The sooner you realize that the better. Global standards in education are not something to be mandated by every school CEO but something that will give you a fighting chance in the real world.
As for "roads". Private companies build the roads already. But do you want to pay a toll for every turn you make on your way to work? That's what private roads means.
As for electricity standards it isn't just what's common but what's mandated. Would you like everything in your home to be vaporized because "there are no standards"? Who's gonna set the standards [not just on the desired results but averages, tolerance, uptime]. Same goes for telecon.
As for banking, who do you whine to when all your money in the world has been leached from a bank account? The bank itself or the FBI?
etc, etc, etc.
The thought that private corporations will act with your wellbeing in mind over their profits is just ludicrous. Look at companies like Walmart and McDonalds [among many others]. Pay their employees crap and sell very low quality goods because for the most part they can get away with it.
You could say "people have a choice" but when you can sell a 1$ meal to someone who isn't smart enough to question it [because why should they, McDonalds is trying to sell a quality meal] the real restaurants lose out.
And that's just the point. People think like you. They think that the clerk is smiling because they want to help you get that low rate mortgage or a fuel efficient car. They don't realize that it's just about a sale. That's the private world for you.
Now granted the government [of pretty much any nation] has and can find ways to mess things up. It doesn't mean we should remove the government from any control. Afterall we elected the government that is supposed to enforce these standards in the first place!!!
Tom
You don't need a Vic-20 to read an audio cassette tape... you just need something that can capture the audio stream, some sort of analogue signal converter capable of producing a binary digit stream. Something like an "analogue-to-digital" converter if such said device exists all our problems are saved! ... /sarcasm
Yes, retro computing is cool. No, it's not required to read ancient recording formats.
Tom
Total BS.
You do realize that the government gives grants and scholarships to students right?
I think you have a very naive view of the role of Government. It's not just to play police but also to make sure the various facets of your daily life go smoothly.
Do you like food that doesn't kill you or drugs that are effective? That's the FDA.
Do you like knowing you won't be defrauded by huge companies [*] or investment scams? That's SEC.
Do you like knowing that your kids can go to a school where there are minimal standards that are required to advance? That's another facet of state government.
Do you like driving on roads with street signs and lights?
Do you like electricity that follows north american standards?
Do you like standard cryptography that can protect [**] your banking and medical transactions?
etc, etc, etc...
The government has a hand in many aspects of your daily life that you either ignore or didn't know about.
Yes, all these things could be ran by the CEO of their respective companies. Schools could have their own curriculum and standards. Water plants could have their own levels of "clean enough". etc, etc, etc...
You vote for your government to represent you on these issues. That's why you have NIST for example.
In the case of a chemical database there is no reason why a publicly funded org can't do it. If it's the will of the people then so be it.
Tom
No, and why would it? The original pentium core only went up to around 233Mhz. The other Pentiums that hit the Ghz range are the P3 and PM.
They both have a higher IPC than the P4, so no a 1Ghz P4 is not the same as a 1Ghz P3... [it's slower].
In the AMD world they're not always the same either. A 1Ghz AMD64 would be faster in most cases than a 1Ghz AMD32 [e.g. Barton] because of the extra registers and more decode/execute resources [e.g. larger instruction scheduler, more DirectPath opcodes, etc].
Tom
147 NES games on my flashcart... last's me just fine on 10 hour flights over the ocean... and better yet you can listen to your mp3cd player ... AND HAVE 200$ in your pocket!!! ;-)
Tom
with or without the NES music?
Tom
But that's my point. I just wanna know the reasoning in their head.
...
Hey guys, terrorism is bad right? Yeah, ok so let's revoke the 4th admendment! Because clearly this won't affect anyone I know it has no negative consequences!
They too have to live with the world they create is my point. So wouldn't they be more interested in how to best secure the nation with the least amount of disruption to the normal order of things?
Tom