I'll take it you don't sing, act, play an instrument, or write scripts/scores. If copyright is what is required for society to reward "art" than so be it.
Do you get paid for your work? Why can't your employer just force you to work for free? Because you want to sell your services? How is this any different? Where I draw the line is the DMCA since it takes away the ability of society to freely [and appropriately] build upon existing culture.
As for the various regions of things, you can always buy the media in the other nation. I can buy discs from Amazon.co.uk. Why can't you?
You can buy it from the uk [or wherever] then decss it to play it locally.
How is that post interesting? You're basically saying "we should be violating the copyright using a more attractive source so we won't get caught."
As much as I hate the douchebags in the maffia [and well actors/singers in general] I respect their right to make a living by selling their productions. If whatever you're pirating is actually worth it to you, find a way to acquire it such that the people who made it still get paid. Otherwise, your "wonderful" solution involves artists [who are at the bottom of the money foodchain] not getting paid.
Why not get a job and just by whatever media you like.
It's worse than that, most EULAs are only visible AFTER you bought the software which pretty much renders them invalid.
It'd be like signing the lease for a new car, then 5 mins when you get into the car you find a notice in the glove box saying "you also can't sue us when you realize this is a lemon."
EULAs are not part of the purchase agreement and are therefore not binding.
Sarcasm aside, progress is made by doing something. Say, restricting the type of patents you can get for starters. We won't jump into an ideal society [if ever] overnight.
You identified another problem, the length of the patents. Shorter patent cycles of say 3-5 years would allow competitors to enter the market more rapidly.
Actually I order the parts and have them build it. I figure if I'm buying a $1000 PC I can splurge and have them build it [and warranty it]. It's a local shop so if it doesn't work I can just drive it back
I suppose I could unplug the light but I'm lazy and putting tape over it is easier.
Before Antec made cases I would buy whatever random case they had [e.g. for $30] and throw an antec PSU in it. I tried a variety of other PSUs back in the day and most of them sucked. Out of spec, didn't last long, etc. Antec PSUs are very good. When they started making case+PSU bundles for $130 [or so] I got them instead. A standalone PSU costs about $100 anyways, might as well get both.
Only thing I hate about them is the stupid blue light under the power button. I usually put tape over it.
Step 1. Choose the case. "beige" is a figure of speech. i mostly use Antec cases because they come with a PSU and are very sturdy [not to mention not too costly].
I can get beige custom boxes for cheaper than both Dell and Mac, especially when not shopping for CeleronD based boxes [which are probably sold at a loss to get the foot in the door].
Maybe not laptops, but who cares. Been my experience though that Dell laptops of decent spec [but not high end] are cheaper than Macs.
My point is in a free market, patents don't exist. If you're not *free* to make a product (that is otherwise legal, e.g. not dangerous) then it's not a free market. And look how patents are used to bully smaller companies out of existence. And the justification for filing the patents aren't always noble. Oh, you added "on the internet," patent that!
I agree with trademark law oddly enough, but only so far as it applies to brand names and logos, not sayings and other shit. When I go to the store to buy skittles, they better damn well be skittles and not some cheap knock off. Do I care that some competitor makes cheaper "skottles?" Hell no. At least I know they're not skittles.
In a proper free market, expensive R&D would be shared across competitors (or partners) for the benefit of the customer.
Of course this bodes on the fundamental problem that people think they exist to make profit. I'd rather just make ideas and products. If companies did R&D for the sake of advancing the body of knowledge of mankind, it would do well to impress any future alien overlords... wait what? Nah kiddin. But it would be nice for people to exercise a bit of altruism once in a while.
On the plus side, seeing as I won't ever have kids I don't have to concern myself with the future. It makes living so much more fun;-)
Oh who am I kidding again, a good night out for me is grabbing subway and playing classical music. Highlight of my life is playing Wii tennis with my buddies. Woe is me. My life is like a dark abyss....
not being amish I don't know for a fact. But it's my understanding that Amish aren't "against science." They use technology all the time, heck most amish counties even have phones. From what I understand, they're against letting technology dictate how they live their lives. They're about being closer to their environments, etc. Sure they could drive a car to the market, but they'd rather ride a carriage [which I should add is a form of technology].
Of course I could be full of shit as I'm not Amish.
Tolerance doesn't mean you have to support stupidity. I'm all for them having their own "museum," but I'll never set foot in it, nor will I take any of my [future potential] children to it.
People "need" this because they're unhappy with their lives and they think wrapping them up in a big warm fuzzy jesus [or allah or whatever] blanket of ignorance will make it all better. Just go out and socialize, take up an interest, etc.
Yes, but in a "free market" where people can't just hold others back, you'd co-operate with others to spread the cost.
Think about it, at some level competitors have a common subset of shared assets [in terms of ideas]. Why is it more ideal for all of them to independently waste money coming up with them?
For example, what if AMD and Intel collaborated on a clever ALU design? Intel could use it's clout [and advancements] in the lithography side of things to have it's own distinction from AMD, all while not re-inventing the wheel. Ok maybe ALU is too large but there are many smaller components and algorithms that go into it that are very common.
What? Do you think AMD and Intel have completely different processors on all levels? Let's see... multiple issue out of order pipeline, with a L1/L2 cache system, etc, etc, etc. Same could be said for many other techs. For example, a ford car fundamentally works the same way as a Toyota [put quality issues aside please]. Why can't they collaborate on safety or efficiency issues?
Essentially, if you're only value is that you can stop others from making products of equal or higher value than how is that a "free" market?
If your process can be replicated for $100,000 it isn't *worth* 5 million dollars, it *cost* 5 million dollars.
Just like if I drive to the store to buy a carton of milk. To the store the milk is worth $2 or whatever. But it cost me that + gas + wear on car + time. Say a store springs up closer to my house, I spend less time/wear/gas to get there. Did they cheat the first company? Suppose the first company had a patent on "putting a store in a neighbourhood," would that be a violation?
But it's even more complicated than that. It's a "if I had to work on the problem, that's the first thing I would try."
For example, [in recent news...] the Amazon 1-click patent. Since I'm not running a webshop I didn't try to declare that idea as my own. But I think that if I were running a shop I would want to investigate what's the fastest way to get someone to order something and on with their life. I'd probably come up with a 1-click idea too. It just makes sense. The website already knows who you are, where you live, etc. So why would it make sense to fill out a complete order form when you want to buy something?
In this case, because I'm not an "e-shop" owner I didn't think of it. But it would obvious to anyone in the field. I should also like to point out that many people "trade teams" quite often. when I was at AMD it wasn't uncommon to have relatively higher up people from all over shuffle around (e.g. intel to AMD, amd to intel, HP to amd, amd to IBM, etc...). You don't think these people bring ideas in their heads with them?
While I don't know the exact details of the patents, I'd be surprised if they were anything groundbreaking.
Running x86 doesn't automatically make a processor consume more power. How about them out of order execution engines, huge caches, multiple pipelines, etc...
VIA processors are not known for their serious ALU performance. Granted it's cool that it has ram, but the processor sucks. What about flash storage? And there still isn't power, a battery or AC adapter would add to the size don't you think?
I mean my computer is no bigger than an a couple inches square. That is if you disregard the mobo, memory, PSU, case, disk drives, etc...
Where is the power supply? Where is the storage? What is the processor? How much memory... etc... Small computing already exists. What we need is less shitty small computing.
Get a processor in the MIPS rating of say a 500MHz AMD K8 processor on a credit card device, with self-contained power, decent memory [say at least 128M], etc. Then we'll chat.
Until then my Gumstix 400MHz ARM with 64M of ram will do fine for small time computing [albeit slowly...]
Fuck you. Graphical text editors are NOT new. In fact "nedit" is a motif based editor that [iirc] used to ship with SGI boxes.
As for using the terminal to do things it's not exactly complicated when you have a sane OS. If I want to, say, shut down apache.../etc/init.d/apache2 stop
Wow, that's both complicated and unintuitive. I mean, what do they really mean by "stop"?
these people who can't use Linux distros? I've been using Gentoo for a several years now as my primary OS. My desktop only boots it, and my laptop dual boots since some of our customers are lamers in windows.
But when I read summary's like that "Linux is finally ready for the desktop!" it makes me think what fucking rock were they hiding under? I've been using Linux distros to browse the web, develop software, write books, use my PVR hardware, listen to music, play video games, host my websites, etc, etc, etc for years now.
Yeah, sure I hit snags here and there, but I work them out, I don't just throw my hands up in the air and go "oh noes!"
Well given that I work in security as well I question the training. A lot of the fundamentals of secure development (e.g. memory management, use cases, testing, verification) can be taught but that's usually best left to a software engineering course. Sure it's nice that there is a course that teaches what a stack overflow is, but I'd rather have a class that teaches what they are and how to avoid them as a development practice.
And really what we need aren't more security testers than developers, we need developers more than programmers. E.g. less script monkeys who churn out line after line of untested, hard to verify, impossible to parse spaghetti code, and more people willing to take the time to plan out the software, take in requirements and design issues, outline a testing and verification process, etc, etc, etc.
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I'll take it you don't sing, act, play an instrument, or write scripts/scores. If copyright is what is required for society to reward "art" than so be it.
Do you get paid for your work? Why can't your employer just force you to work for free? Because you want to sell your services? How is this any different? Where I draw the line is the DMCA since it takes away the ability of society to freely [and appropriately] build upon existing culture.
As for the various regions of things, you can always buy the media in the other nation. I can buy discs from Amazon.co.uk. Why can't you?
You can buy it from the uk [or wherever] then decss it to play it locally.
OMG I R GENIUS.
How is that post interesting? You're basically saying "we should be violating the copyright using a more attractive source so we won't get caught."
As much as I hate the douchebags in the maffia [and well actors/singers in general] I respect their right to make a living by selling their productions. If whatever you're pirating is actually worth it to you, find a way to acquire it such that the people who made it still get paid. Otherwise, your "wonderful" solution involves artists [who are at the bottom of the money foodchain] not getting paid.
Why not get a job and just by whatever media you like.
Tom
Unless, like most corrupt shops they add "re-stocking fees."
Though for things like Laptops most giant retailers seem to be somewhat decent about returns/exchanges. Try that at the smaller shops though.
Tom
It's worse than that, most EULAs are only visible AFTER you bought the software which pretty much renders them invalid.
It'd be like signing the lease for a new car, then 5 mins when you get into the car you find a notice in the glove box saying "you also can't sue us when you realize this is a lemon."
EULAs are not part of the purchase agreement and are therefore not binding.
Tom
Sarcasm aside, progress is made by doing something. Say, restricting the type of patents you can get for starters. We won't jump into an ideal society [if ever] overnight.
You identified another problem, the length of the patents. Shorter patent cycles of say 3-5 years would allow competitors to enter the market more rapidly.
Tom
Actually I order the parts and have them build it. I figure if I'm buying a $1000 PC I can splurge and have them build it [and warranty it]. It's a local shop so if it doesn't work I can just drive it back
I suppose I could unplug the light but I'm lazy and putting tape over it is easier.
Tom
Before Antec made cases I would buy whatever random case they had [e.g. for $30] and throw an antec PSU in it. I tried a variety of other PSUs back in the day and most of them sucked. Out of spec, didn't last long, etc. Antec PSUs are very good. When they started making case+PSU bundles for $130 [or so] I got them instead. A standalone PSU costs about $100 anyways, might as well get both.
Only thing I hate about them is the stupid blue light under the power button. I usually put tape over it.
Tom
At 1mbps? Um hell no. HDTV is 19mbps for a reason (which of course is probably sent over the wire at ~8mbps or so ... cheap bastards).
Tom
Step 1. Choose the case. "beige" is a figure of speech. i mostly use Antec cases because they come with a PSU and are very sturdy [not to mention not too costly].
I can get beige custom boxes for cheaper than both Dell and Mac, especially when not shopping for CeleronD based boxes [which are probably sold at a loss to get the foot in the door].
Maybe not laptops, but who cares. Been my experience though that Dell laptops of decent spec [but not high end] are cheaper than Macs.
Tom
I'd like to point out that 1680x1050 is huge. For ref, DVDs are encoded ~9000kbps at 720x480. Granted with an inferior codec, but still.
I wouldn't expect many codecs to handle that size frame spectacularly well. That any of them did [h.264 in your case] is amazing.
Tom
My point is in a free market, patents don't exist. If you're not *free* to make a product (that is otherwise legal, e.g. not dangerous) then it's not a free market. And look how patents are used to bully smaller companies out of existence. And the justification for filing the patents aren't always noble. Oh, you added "on the internet," patent that!
I agree with trademark law oddly enough, but only so far as it applies to brand names and logos, not sayings and other shit. When I go to the store to buy skittles, they better damn well be skittles and not some cheap knock off. Do I care that some competitor makes cheaper "skottles?" Hell no. At least I know they're not skittles.
In a proper free market, expensive R&D would be shared across competitors (or partners) for the benefit of the customer.
Of course this bodes on the fundamental problem that people think they exist to make profit. I'd rather just make ideas and products. If companies did R&D for the sake of advancing the body of knowledge of mankind, it would do well to impress any future alien overlords... wait what? Nah kiddin. But it would be nice for people to exercise a bit of altruism once in a while.
Tom
walked into that one. Truth hurts.
;-)
On the plus side, seeing as I won't ever have kids I don't have to concern myself with the future. It makes living so much more fun
Oh who am I kidding again, a good night out for me is grabbing subway and playing classical music. Highlight of my life is playing Wii tennis with my buddies. Woe is me. My life is like a dark abyss....
hehehehe chuckle
Tom
not being amish I don't know for a fact. But it's my understanding that Amish aren't "against science." They use technology all the time, heck most amish counties even have phones. From what I understand, they're against letting technology dictate how they live their lives. They're about being closer to their environments, etc. Sure they could drive a car to the market, but they'd rather ride a carriage [which I should add is a form of technology].
Of course I could be full of shit as I'm not Amish.
Tom
Tolerance doesn't mean you have to support stupidity. I'm all for them having their own "museum," but I'll never set foot in it, nor will I take any of my [future potential] children to it.
People "need" this because they're unhappy with their lives and they think wrapping them up in a big warm fuzzy jesus [or allah or whatever] blanket of ignorance will make it all better. Just go out and socialize, take up an interest, etc.
Tom
Yes, but in a "free market" where people can't just hold others back, you'd co-operate with others to spread the cost.
Think about it, at some level competitors have a common subset of shared assets [in terms of ideas]. Why is it more ideal for all of them to independently waste money coming up with them?
For example, what if AMD and Intel collaborated on a clever ALU design? Intel could use it's clout [and advancements] in the lithography side of things to have it's own distinction from AMD, all while not re-inventing the wheel. Ok maybe ALU is too large but there are many smaller components and algorithms that go into it that are very common.
What? Do you think AMD and Intel have completely different processors on all levels? Let's see... multiple issue out of order pipeline, with a L1/L2 cache system, etc, etc, etc. Same could be said for many other techs. For example, a ford car fundamentally works the same way as a Toyota [put quality issues aside please]. Why can't they collaborate on safety or efficiency issues?
Essentially, if you're only value is that you can stop others from making products of equal or higher value than how is that a "free" market?
Tom
If your process can be replicated for $100,000 it isn't *worth* 5 million dollars, it *cost* 5 million dollars.
Just like if I drive to the store to buy a carton of milk. To the store the milk is worth $2 or whatever. But it cost me that + gas + wear on car + time. Say a store springs up closer to my house, I spend less time/wear/gas to get there. Did they cheat the first company? Suppose the first company had a patent on "putting a store in a neighbourhood," would that be a violation?
Tom
But it's even more complicated than that. It's a "if I had to work on the problem, that's the first thing I would try."
For example, [in recent news...] the Amazon 1-click patent. Since I'm not running a webshop I didn't try to declare that idea as my own. But I think that if I were running a shop I would want to investigate what's the fastest way to get someone to order something and on with their life. I'd probably come up with a 1-click idea too. It just makes sense. The website already knows who you are, where you live, etc. So why would it make sense to fill out a complete order form when you want to buy something?
In this case, because I'm not an "e-shop" owner I didn't think of it. But it would obvious to anyone in the field. I should also like to point out that many people "trade teams" quite often. when I was at AMD it wasn't uncommon to have relatively higher up people from all over shuffle around (e.g. intel to AMD, amd to intel, HP to amd, amd to IBM, etc...). You don't think these people bring ideas in their heads with them?
While I don't know the exact details of the patents, I'd be surprised if they were anything groundbreaking.
Tom
I'd like to point out that a 500MHz AMD K8 is capable of way more MIPS [and FLOPS] than a 1GHz C7 core.
Clockrate != performance or did Intel's P4 escapades not teach you anything?
Tom
Running x86 doesn't automatically make a processor consume more power. How about them out of order execution engines, huge caches, multiple pipelines, etc...
Tom
VIA processors are not known for their serious ALU performance. Granted it's cool that it has ram, but the processor sucks. What about flash storage? And there still isn't power, a battery or AC adapter would add to the size don't you think?
I mean my computer is no bigger than an a couple inches square. That is if you disregard the mobo, memory, PSU, case, disk drives, etc...
Tom
Where is the power supply? Where is the storage? What is the processor? How much memory ... etc... Small computing already exists. What we need is less shitty small computing.
Get a processor in the MIPS rating of say a 500MHz AMD K8 processor on a credit card device, with self-contained power, decent memory [say at least 128M], etc. Then we'll chat.
Until then my Gumstix 400MHz ARM with 64M of ram will do fine for small time computing [albeit slowly...]
Tom
Um try gedit, nedit, kate, gvim, kdevelop, etc...
... /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
Fuck you. Graphical text editors are NOT new. In fact "nedit" is a motif based editor that [iirc] used to ship with SGI boxes.
As for using the terminal to do things it's not exactly complicated when you have a sane OS. If I want to, say, shut down apache
Wow, that's both complicated and unintuitive. I mean, what do they really mean by "stop"?
Tom
these people who can't use Linux distros? I've been using Gentoo for a several years now as my primary OS. My desktop only boots it, and my laptop dual boots since some of our customers are lamers in windows.
But when I read summary's like that "Linux is finally ready for the desktop!" it makes me think what fucking rock were they hiding under? I've been using Linux distros to browse the web, develop software, write books, use my PVR hardware, listen to music, play video games, host my websites, etc, etc, etc for years now.
Yeah, sure I hit snags here and there, but I work them out, I don't just throw my hands up in the air and go "oh noes!"
Tom
Well given that I work in security as well I question the training. A lot of the fundamentals of secure development (e.g. memory management, use cases, testing, verification) can be taught but that's usually best left to a software engineering course. Sure it's nice that there is a course that teaches what a stack overflow is, but I'd rather have a class that teaches what they are and how to avoid them as a development practice.
And really what we need aren't more security testers than developers, we need developers more than programmers. E.g. less script monkeys who churn out line after line of untested, hard to verify, impossible to parse spaghetti code, and more people willing to take the time to plan out the software, take in requirements and design issues, outline a testing and verification process, etc, etc, etc.