If you replace "breathing" with "illegally copying a movie" I think you will see the laws in the same light they do.
DeCSS wasn't about free speech, it was about how to decode a DVD so you can copy the contents. The quicker you zealots realize that the better the world will become.
Here's a tip. Don't break the law and they won't sue you.
I'm sorry but the only reason for DeCSS is to copy DVDs. I seriously doubt many people actually have to decrypt some nice pics of LaraCrofts round lush breasts for a school project.
DeCSS was in clear violation of the DMCA and there is no way around that. whether you support the DMCA or not is not the issue. The DeCSS program violated the rules set forth in the DMCA guidelines. Namely undermining a copyright protection system [CSS].
DMCA law has nothing todo with whether this is fair or not. The application of DMCA is an issue for the courts to overturn however.
Actually no, you're a complete fuck-nut and don't understand the DMCA at all.
The DMCA makes it illegal to reverse engineer something for the purposes of violating a copyright law. I.e breaking CSS.
Tampering with your bios is not a DMCA issue unless in the process of debugging your bios your reverse engineer something that protects an IBM copyright.
Why is everyone amazed that you can write applications for linux? I mean seriously who gives a damn?
What perhaps is neat is that there is an autonomous robot. Being controlled by a linux app is about as amazing as my 80C32 MCU board running code I plug into its memory... Wow....
I'm not saying I don't play video games. I'm just saying why make a big deal of it? Often design practices are only to make money. For instance, when the N64 came out the technology involved was already 10 years old. Now they are releasing a gamecube, wanna take bets on how long before GameCube II is released which fortunately doesn't run GameCub games?
They're just distractions, nothing more. And again, the fact that they run Linux doesn't make them any more interesting. I don't like Linux on my PC, I probably won't like it on my N64 or GBC.
My school does the same thing. Its a big waste IMHO. Often at work/school you want to install a messenger program, perhaps a game or two. Just to provide a 10 min distraction every so often.
Employers have to realize that employees are humans. 8 to 10 hours of pure "work" is just plain wrong.
I agree that MS bundles too much and they make the entry too high for users.
Let's forget that all for a second. Do you mean to tell me that Linux is a fair replacement for Windows? Ignore the drivers for a moment too. Lets assume that you have a linux box with working drivers and all is well. Do you mean to tell me that the average joe-user will be able to sit in front of a Linux box and make just as much use of it as they could from a windows box?
Hell no. Linux is not even a fair comparison to windows. Windows is vastly easier to setup, use, generally learn. That's not to say on the "techy" level windows is better. Hell no. It's not the most stable or fastest kernel in the world, from time to time there are security holes, etc...
But you have to realize that the average joe user doesn't care that pipes are 29% faster in linux compared to windows. They don't care that linux has a 0.009% higher uptime, or that the task-swaper works 200% faster. They don't care that linux is open source and they don't care that linux uses a more modern filesystem than windows.
They care about pretty buttons and shinny gui's that let them get work done.
Quite frankly the average OSS developer does not know how to compete against MS, so they bitch and whine about how unfair it is.
I fully agree competing against MS is difficult if not impossible. I fully agree that the packaging of media player and MSN with windows is wrong.
But I still contend that the best way to hurt MS is to steal their user base.
If linux were more user friendly those "don't care features" would turn into "added synergetic bonuses". Companies like Dell and Compaq would probably sell a few more Linux boxes, probably not a huge swing, but as time progresses who knows.
The bottom line is, if you want to win you have to identify with your customer. Quite frankly the OSS community in general doesn't do that.
1. Make MS illegal.
2. Force people to use crappy non-competitive OSS.
3. Isn't the world free now?
Face it, since most of OSS is non-copetitive it sucks. Linux is not user friendly, there are too many linux distributions too, often they aren't even made with the end-users in mind, Mozilla is "just another browser", etc.
GCC is by far the only "awesome" OSS project. It is a very competive product. On the x86 platform it meets or beats many commercial compilers like Watcom, Borland and MSVC, unfortunately 98% of all of MS's evil money comes from "point-and-click cute gui" OS'es not MSVC.
I say it again, if you want to seriously hurt MS start releasing competitive programs the "dumb" user will want to use.
You can't quite expect to make a living targetting the smallest population? Its all about saturation nowadays.
.... of people trying to kill MS. Not by selling better products, but just plain calling "no fair".
Seriously people. If you want to hurt MS, stop pissing around with them. Start releasing products that are in fact better than MS products and you will hurt MS alot more.
Let's see. MS makes an OS. So why not write a free OS? Linux/*BSD are a good start but they seriously suck in the new_user/non-sysop department. They are hard to setup and often support far less hardware than MS winblows does.
Free media player? Winamp is good for mp3s and other esoteric sound files but sucks for video and other popular forms. There are no good competitors to Windows Media Player [well that I know of]
Free browser? Mozilla and Netscape are good competitors but often strive simply for MS compatiblity. I don't know what is so great about Moz 0.9.5[I'm using it right now] compared to MS IE 6 for instance. Mozilla just doesn't have enough features and stability to seriously take away from the big user base.
I know you're all going to flame me, but remember that 99% of the user pool for PCs don't know or care what OSS is. They don't care about fair process or anything like you zealots do.
If you want to hurt companies like MS you have to play their game. Release competitive products and actually market to the customer base that MS holds. Don't market your OSS project just to unix-gurus or OSS zealots. Try to make it a project that as many people can use as possible. Often that means pretty buttons and long user manuals, but thats what you have todo to win.
This court crap with MS won't really go anywhere. They will just appeal and appeal and appeal until 2135...
I not give a rats ass about a VIDEO GAME console. The fact that it runs linux is no more interesting at all. The sole purpose [the only purpose] of a video game console is to distract you from reality by letting you blow up **fake** people instead of real people.
-- Slashdots new motto "Thought, not just a good idea!"
Maybe you don't know how to setup a computer? I have an Athlon 1.2ghz and it has yet to break down at all. Sure it runs hot but I have a nice heatsink + fan + fan + fan + fan.
Of course it is. Also if you read the news article it refers to this as "new". it's been tried about 1000 times before. Each time a failure... I wonder why?
There should be clone research done. It is the next branch of genetic science. Why does everyone think your clone will be *you*.
Should we outlaw twins now? They are technically clones!
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If you replace "breathing" with "illegally copying a movie" I think you will see the laws in the same light they do.
DeCSS wasn't about free speech, it was about how to decode a DVD so you can copy the contents. The quicker you zealots realize that the better the world will become.
It couldn't possibly be that Sony wanted to notify the author first. No it must be something sinister.
Seriously bend over and pull the 2' stick out of your ass.
Here's a tip. Don't break the law and they won't sue you.
I'm sorry but the only reason for DeCSS is to copy DVDs. I seriously doubt many people actually have to decrypt some nice pics of LaraCrofts round lush breasts for a school project.
....
DeCSS was in clear violation of the DMCA and there is no way around that. whether you support the DMCA or not is not the issue. The DeCSS program violated the rules set forth in the DMCA guidelines. Namely undermining a copyright protection system [CSS].
DMCA law has nothing todo with whether this is fair or not. The application of DMCA is an issue for the courts to overturn however.
Actually no, you're a complete fuck-nut and don't understand the DMCA at all.
The DMCA makes it illegal to reverse engineer something for the purposes of violating a copyright law. I.e breaking CSS.
Tampering with your bios is not a DMCA issue unless in the process of debugging your bios your reverse engineer something that protects an IBM copyright.
While I disagree with Sony's use of the DMCA to shut down fan websites, I have to say this to the group
GET A LIFE, GO OUT AND BUY A REAL FRIGGIN DOG!
Why is everyone amazed that you can write applications for linux? I mean seriously who gives a damn?
What perhaps is neat is that there is an autonomous robot. Being controlled by a linux app is about as amazing as my 80C32 MCU board running code I plug into its memory... Wow....
I'm not saying I don't play video games. I'm just saying why make a big deal of it? Often design practices are only to make money. For instance, when the N64 came out the technology involved was already 10 years old. Now they are releasing a gamecube, wanna take bets on how long before GameCube II is released which fortunately doesn't run GameCub games?
They're just distractions, nothing more. And again, the fact that they run Linux doesn't make them any more interesting. I don't like Linux on my PC, I probably won't like it on my N64 or GBC.
--Tom
My school does the same thing. Its a big waste IMHO. Often at work/school you want to install a messenger program, perhaps a game or two. Just to provide a 10 min distraction every so often.
Employers have to realize that employees are humans. 8 to 10 hours of pure "work" is just plain wrong.
its funny that
:-)
http://advantage.msn.com/home/home.asp
will load in Mozilla [on win32]
but
http://www.msn.com
won't....
I agree that MS bundles too much and they make the entry too high for users.
Let's forget that all for a second. Do you mean to tell me that Linux is a fair replacement for Windows? Ignore the drivers for a moment too. Lets assume that you have a linux box with working drivers and all is well. Do you mean to tell me that the average joe-user will be able to sit in front of a Linux box and make just as much use of it as they could from a windows box?
Hell no. Linux is not even a fair comparison to windows. Windows is vastly easier to setup, use, generally learn. That's not to say on the "techy" level windows is better. Hell no. It's not the most stable or fastest kernel in the world, from time to time there are security holes, etc...
But you have to realize that the average joe user doesn't care that pipes are 29% faster in linux compared to windows. They don't care that linux has a 0.009% higher uptime, or that the task-swaper works 200% faster. They don't care that linux is open source and they don't care that linux uses a more modern filesystem than windows.
They care about pretty buttons and shinny gui's that let them get work done.
Quite frankly the average OSS developer does not know how to compete against MS, so they bitch and whine about how unfair it is.
I fully agree competing against MS is difficult if not impossible. I fully agree that the packaging of media player and MSN with windows is wrong.
But I still contend that the best way to hurt MS is to steal their user base.
If linux were more user friendly those "don't care features" would turn into "added synergetic bonuses". Companies like Dell and Compaq would probably sell a few more Linux boxes, probably not a huge swing, but as time progresses who knows.
The bottom line is, if you want to win you have to identify with your customer. Quite frankly the OSS community in general doesn't do that.
Tom
Not the solution must be this
1. Make MS illegal.
2. Force people to use crappy non-competitive OSS.
3. Isn't the world free now?
Face it, since most of OSS is non-copetitive it sucks. Linux is not user friendly, there are too many linux distributions too, often they aren't even made with the end-users in mind, Mozilla is "just another browser", etc.
GCC is by far the only "awesome" OSS project. It is a very competive product. On the x86 platform it meets or beats many commercial compilers like Watcom, Borland and MSVC, unfortunately 98% of all of MS's evil money comes from "point-and-click cute gui" OS'es not MSVC.
I say it again, if you want to seriously hurt MS start releasing competitive programs the "dumb" user will want to use.
You can't quite expect to make a living targetting the smallest population? Its all about saturation nowadays.
Tom
.... of people trying to kill MS. Not by selling better products, but just plain calling "no fair".
Seriously people. If you want to hurt MS, stop pissing around with them. Start releasing products that are in fact better than MS products and you will hurt MS alot more.
Let's see. MS makes an OS. So why not write a free OS? Linux/*BSD are a good start but they seriously suck in the new_user/non-sysop department. They are hard to setup and often support far less hardware than MS winblows does.
Free media player? Winamp is good for mp3s and other esoteric sound files but sucks for video and other popular forms. There are no good competitors to Windows Media Player [well that I know of]
Free browser? Mozilla and Netscape are good competitors but often strive simply for MS compatiblity. I don't know what is so great about Moz 0.9.5[I'm using it right now] compared to MS IE 6 for instance. Mozilla just doesn't have enough features and stability to seriously take away from the big user base.
I know you're all going to flame me, but remember that 99% of the user pool for PCs don't know or care what OSS is. They don't care about fair process or anything like you zealots do.
If you want to hurt companies like MS you have to play their game. Release competitive products and actually market to the customer base that MS holds. Don't market your OSS project just to unix-gurus or OSS zealots. Try to make it a project that as many people can use as possible. Often that means pretty buttons and long user manuals, but thats what you have todo to win.
This court crap with MS won't really go anywhere. They will just appeal and appeal and appeal until 2135...
Tom
I not give a rats ass about a VIDEO GAME console. The fact that it runs linux is no more interesting at all. The sole purpose [the only purpose] of a video game console is to distract you from reality by letting you blow up **fake** people instead of real people.
-- Slashdots new motto "Thought, not just a good idea!"
No windows client? How useful. Shazam.
That's not true. If it's a recognized German patent then it's still infringement. The real question is how to patent a database application...
Maybe you don't know how to setup a computer? I have an Athlon 1.2ghz and it has yet to break down at all. Sure it runs hot but I have a nice heatsink + fan + fan + fan + fan.
Of course it is. Also if you read the news article it refers to this as "new". it's been tried about 1000 times before. Each time a failure... I wonder why?
There should be clone research done. It is the next branch of genetic science. Why does everyone think your clone will be *you*. Should we outlaw twins now? They are technically clones!
I agree. US patents are getting out of hand.