Unless of Course - the state wants to have an interest. Ask Scott Peterson - He got nailed for murdering the fetus too. The state will absolutely assign rights to the fetus - but only in the states interest, and not the fetus.
For example, my hair is just as much human cells as an embryo - no crime getting it cut.
The example is fatally flawed - the purpose of a hair is not to become a baby, so therefore it's ok to cut - An embroyo on the other hand is a life, and cutting it would be a crime.
Actually, apple suffered damages as a result of the lawsuit - a co-worker was going to order one to try it out - I told them about Job's petulance and the lawsuit, and they decided not to order.
Al gore said it was only solvent until 2050 - And the Democrats savaged bush 4 years ago on it...
I know - Bush is in office so the rules have changed - Like they did when Clinton was happy to point out a Bomber Pilot fighting for our freedom in the skies of Iraq during a SOTU address..
You don't recall correctly - Apple has been playing catchup in the graphic card field since the explosion of pc gaming. Your head design guy dismissed pc gaming in the design of Macs which sealed their fated for a decade.
It's only lately where they are starting to get up to speed.
And again - It's all related to bang for the buck, a 499 headless mac is comparitively expensive when you look for speed, reliability, and value in a platform.
Talk to me next year, when again all you Mac folks are drooling over the "This'll be the year they all switch" (followed by the year after that, and the year after that (rinse, wash, repeat))....
I posted at length about this on my blog after OGG and iPod were mentioned in the same thread a while back. It goes back to the "so few people that they cumulatively round down to zero" point again. No-one, save the militant/obstinate few, gives a shit about OGG, and, moreover, the only reason that Creative, etc. include OGG support is to try to capture some of the statistically minute militant/obstinate market. That's how marginalised they are - like a pack of mangy stray dogs fighting over scraps.
Much like the apple fanatics are about apple products?
Myself? I spent the extra cash for more storage and went for a dell digital Jukebox. All hype aside - what was more important to me was more storage - because in the end - flash and glitz aside - it's just a unit that serves up music.
Same with the Mac Mini. Sure, there'll be a few sales - but all in all there's not enough bang for the buck - and that's what people focus on for low cost items.
Apple should continue to serve up to the "Apple Lovers", If they target for the budget folks - thet're embarking on a losing business model.
No - What I'm saying is at the places they measured , they should of been able to measure a temperature difference of 8 degrees. The point where the india smog was compared to the "pristine" air. That's what's missing from their "proof".
It's not going to fall off right now because it's balances but if we drop the force on one side, it'll fall off. Incidentally, not suggested by him but by me: It can crack where it stands.
But that's not happening - in the transcript they plainly state about the "Pristine" air coming off of antartica. Since the global gasses are world wodi, the "Pristine" air area should be 5 or six degrees warmer than they are. Plainly, they are not.
Unless of course you use PC anywhere for anything and have to switch online to 4 colors and screen scaling. XP then conveniently forgets to switch back to the settings and goes all blue bubble XP again.
I'm running a 3.0 with 512 of ddr 2700 ram - I need to save up and get a gig of ddr 3200 ram to fully utilize the board I bought but until then - nothing has slowed me down.
Modded Interesting? Err - thanks - but I'll be "overrated" soon.
I sat back and thought about doom 3 and the strain it puts on vid cards - I went out and got a fx 5200 to play and can't help thinking what changes are going to be made to the GUI that'll need that power.
I know in the past they were working on a three D "art Hall" representation for a UI - and there was a 3d graphical cube layout some site was designing that I saw in comdex 2001 - What I'm hoping to see is a mix of the two - a 3d multi-sided gui that had the same flexibility as multiple desktops married to a cube that allows me easy access away from the generic start bar.
Course - that means backgrounds would be banished - but maybe replaced by designs from the discovery channel.. LOL
Finally a move into using hardware to speed stuff up.
I know we'll see a bunch of folks protesting bloat and other fud - but it'll be cool to see what they come up with with a home UI that strains a vid card.
Problem with your comparison: The computers come with Windows preinstalled, and Windows, with default settings, is insecure. It's not enough to "not do stupid things", you need to know quite a bit to make Windows even semi-secure in the first place. You had better use a firewall (even in XP SP2, the included one isn't sufficient) an anti-virus, install Firefox, and anti-spyware software. If you don't do this, using your computer in reasonable ways can still get you into trouble.
And the frame comes pre installed in a honda civic too. And I'm guessing if you put a five year old in the driver seat of that civic, without installing the requisite knowledge to start, operate, maintain the civic - You're gonna end up with a fatal accident someday. Contrary to popular belief, Honda Civics are only safe if you know how to correctly use and maintain them - Otherwise they can hijack your life. A very poor design if you ask me...
That's my point. If you think education stops people from being stupid, you're naive.
And if you're thinking switching to Firefox will fix the problem you're a little beyond naive. I'm hoping whereever you work - Someone has set the windows machines in the network to autoupdate without the user intervention. Cause securing a system by switching to firefox is laughable at best.
And yes, I'm using firefox right now because I like the features it includes - However - I don't feel secure using it because - well, Time will show.
Sure, I asked for it, but what about that excuses MS? If I were a mechanic and noticed that Honda Civics engines died if people were a few days late changing the oil, then sure, you could say, "Well, what are you complaining for? It's your job to fix cars!" You could also advise me to tell my customers who owned Civics to make sure they change their oil on time. None of this, however, would let Honda off the hook for making a sub-standard product. If I knew Civics showed this behavior, I would advise people to purchase another model of car. Likewise, I generally advise people to use something other than Windows. Software isn't cars - so flatly the comparison failes. However - if we must use the comparison it's more like "Hi, I have this civic, and I just got a free hydraulic snowplow from this guy down the street, and we bolted it in (or I did, I don't remember) Now my cars front end is sitting on the tires and it won't move - so I want you to fix your defective civic." "Whattya mean it's not a design fault? There were places to bolt it into the frame!"
You're naive. Education paired with locking users down to a secure profile and a proper array of anti-spyware software (and switching to Firefox) has been doing a pretty good job at my company, but education alone? No.
How am I naive? Sounds like your "educated users" are stupid. Again - FUD
Not disagreeing... However, if you have a grandmother who is liable to want the new free weather software no matter what you tell her, isn't it then better to put her on a system where the free weather software, or just visiting the free weather software's web site, isn't likely to cause her harm? I mean, if that's the grandmother you're dealing with, why are you insisting that, no, she *must* be given this insecure system, and any argument to the contrary is FUD? Yes. Because she hasn't been given an "Unsecure system" - It is secure - It works well. If she could learn how to properly use it then you wouldn't have this discussion then. Going back to the car example - I'm shure she had lessons and learned the rules of the road - Like not driving on sidewalks. So yes, we're back to fud.
I wasn't complaining about my job. I was saying that you don't seem to have any idea what it takes to do my job. Maybe not your job, But a similiar one where it's done correctly Part of my job is to make purchasing recommendations based on what technology is going to best help the business run smoothly. Given the current state of things, I advise against Windows (where feasible). It's not FUD, it's experience.
or lack there of... But again, if you can't educate the users - kill their net connection till they get a clue.
Hyping this on Microsoft is where I'm digging my heels in here - The problem lies with the users and the people who want clueless users to fall in their clutches. And when another browser or OS reaches the same market share you'll be seeing the same products written for them as well.
No one pointed a gun to their head to make them buy the system and then not learn to use it.
And if you're doing help desk work - well, you asked for it. You're dealing with the clueless dips. I quit a good paying job as a boxman in a casino because I was dealing with the dregs of humanity. I knew I couldn't rely on the customers to learn my job, or behave properly, or even have an ounce of courtesy - One day I almost lunged over a craps table to beat the crap out a loser that blew cigar smoke dead in my face.
Does that mean all people are fucking assholes that deserve to be beaten? Nope. But I took a pay cut and started working a diferent job in a different field. I started as a data miner and am now happily programming with other folks that understand systems.
Does education stop spyware infestations? Absofuckinglutely. Should Microsoft be held accountable for the predatory practices of others or the stupidity of their users? Nope.
No one is holding a gun to the head of the pron surfer, noone is holding a gun to the head of a warez kiddie. Noone is holding a gun to the head of a grandmother that clicks the new free software for weather - and infecting her system either.
Should Microsoft be held accountable for issues like slammer? If and Only when they don't release a patch before it hits. So far - that hasn't happened.
So again.. FUD
As an aside - I'd really look to get a job where you have a bit more control or a bit more of a future - Help desk shit gets you stressed almost as bad as food service or casino jobs do.
ahh, so surfing to my website is going to hijack the browsewr and blow up your hard drive? Wait - I get it, CNN is really out to pound you with trojans - No wait - Heck Slashdot is there to kill off all x86 systems and will cause your power supply to suddenly leap forth and strangle you with its power cord? Ohh, and my e-mail has been relatively spam free too. My dad stopped going to the flash/joke sites, and learned to say no. Like my grandfather did, and my brother did, and damn near anyone I bother to take five minutes to explain the net do.
It IS easy - tell them where not to go, tell them to watch what they do, and above all stay on top of updates.
I know it's pretty difficult to do - I figure it takes a bit more than the brain power of a lemur. A smart lemur - but a lemur none the less.
To me it's the User that's at fault - not the system. Tell your users to avoid Kazaa, Bonzai Buddy, stop surfing porn sitres , and pay for the software instead of using warez and cracks.
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Unless of Course - the state wants to have an interest. Ask Scott Peterson - He got nailed for murdering the fetus too. The state will absolutely assign rights to the fetus - but only in the states interest, and not the fetus.
I'll try - but I think they live in your alternate reality.
Now - Back to the embroyo...
Fine, for the "Nit Pickers" I'll change the word "Life" for "Human Life".
Next?
Hi strawman, lovely to see you again.
Really have to go tho - I'm having a discussion about embroyos and don't have a taste for red herring today...
ta Ta..
For example, my hair is just as much human cells as an embryo - no crime getting it cut.
The example is fatally flawed - the purpose of a hair is not to become a baby, so therefore it's ok to cut - An embroyo on the other hand is a life, and cutting it would be a crime.
Actually, apple suffered damages as a result of the lawsuit - a co-worker was going to order one to try it out - I told them about Job's petulance and the lawsuit, and they decided not to order.
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MMORPG's and Burnout and FPS's??? That's all we're left with?
Darn it - I want a new x-com or MOO or MOO2 (and not that abortion MOO3 either)
There is no SS crisis.
Al gore said it was only solvent until 2050 - And the Democrats savaged bush 4 years ago on it...
I know - Bush is in office so the rules have changed - Like they did when Clinton was happy to point out a Bomber Pilot fighting for our freedom in the skies of Iraq during a SOTU address..
err - that was a mirror you were talking to - I'm the guy over here, laughing at your projecting.
See you next year - You know - when apple will "Really, Really, Really dominate the market this time"...
You don't recall correctly - Apple has been playing catchup in the graphic card field since the explosion of pc gaming. Your head design guy dismissed pc gaming in the design of Macs which sealed their fated for a decade.
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It's only lately where they are starting to get up to speed.
And again - It's all related to bang for the buck, a 499 headless mac is comparitively expensive when you look for speed, reliability, and value in a platform.
Talk to me next year, when again all you Mac folks are drooling over the "This'll be the year they all switch" (followed by the year after that, and the year after that (rinse, wash, repeat))
You might submit it, but it ain't gonna fly.
:)
a 500 86 platform will have more bang for the buck than a mac mini.
and when you go after the "budget folks" like myself well, I'll take the PC over the mini mac. And yes - I owned an apple 2 and a mac se.
I still have the se - It's propping up a stack of books in my closet
I posted at length about this on my blog after OGG and iPod were mentioned in the same thread a while back. It goes back to the "so few people that they cumulatively round down to zero" point again. No-one, save the militant/obstinate few, gives a shit about OGG, and, moreover, the only reason that Creative, etc. include OGG support is to try to capture some of the statistically minute militant/obstinate market. That's how marginalised they are - like a pack of mangy stray dogs fighting over scraps.
Much like the apple fanatics are about apple products?
Myself? I spent the extra cash for more storage and went for a dell digital Jukebox. All hype aside - what was more important to me was more storage - because in the end - flash and glitz aside - it's just a unit that serves up music.
Same with the Mac Mini. Sure, there'll be a few sales - but all in all there's not enough bang for the buck - and that's what people focus on for low cost items.
Apple should continue to serve up to the "Apple Lovers", If they target for the budget folks - thet're embarking on a losing business model.
No - What I'm saying is at the places they measured , they should of been able to measure a temperature difference of 8 degrees. The point where the india smog was compared to the "pristine" air. That's what's missing from their "proof".
It's not going to fall off right now because it's balances but if we drop the force on one side, it'll fall off. Incidentally, not suggested by him but by me: It can crack where it stands.
But that's not happening - in the transcript they plainly state about the "Pristine" air coming off of antartica. Since the global gasses are world wodi, the "Pristine" air area should be 5 or six degrees warmer than they are. Plainly, they are not.
FUD
Unless of course you use PC anywhere for anything and have to switch online to 4 colors and screen scaling. XP then conveniently forgets to switch back to the settings and goes all blue bubble XP again.
Agreed - this buttony - cartoony look they added to xp blows.
//starts to cower
Further thinking this - they could really blow the oppotunity and add a beefed up paperclip UI.
runs fine on the 5200.
I'm running a 3.0 with 512 of ddr 2700 ram - I need to save up and get a gig of ddr 3200 ram to fully utilize the board I bought but until then - nothing has slowed me down.
Modded Interesting? Err - thanks - but I'll be "overrated" soon.
I sat back and thought about doom 3 and the strain it puts on vid cards - I went out and got a fx 5200 to play and can't help thinking what changes are going to be made to the GUI that'll need that power.
I know in the past they were working on a three D "art Hall" representation for a UI - and there was a 3d graphical cube layout some site was designing that I saw in comdex 2001 - What I'm hoping to see is a mix of the two - a 3d multi-sided gui that had the same flexibility as multiple desktops married to a cube that allows me easy access away from the generic start bar.
Course - that means backgrounds would be banished - but maybe replaced by designs from the discovery channel.. LOL
Finally a move into using hardware to speed stuff up.
I know we'll see a bunch of folks protesting bloat and other fud - but it'll be cool to see what they come up with with a home UI that strains a vid card.
Problem with your comparison: The computers come with Windows preinstalled, and Windows, with default settings, is insecure. It's not enough to "not do stupid things", you need to know quite a bit to make Windows even semi-secure in the first place. You had better use a firewall (even in XP SP2, the included one isn't sufficient) an anti-virus, install Firefox, and anti-spyware software. If you don't do this, using your computer in reasonable ways can still get you into trouble.
And the frame comes pre installed in a honda civic too. And I'm guessing if you put a five year old in the driver seat of that civic, without installing the requisite knowledge to start, operate, maintain the civic - You're gonna end up with a fatal accident someday. Contrary to popular belief, Honda Civics are only safe if you know how to correctly use and maintain them - Otherwise they can hijack your life. A very poor design if you ask me...
That's my point. If you think education stops people from being stupid, you're naive.
And if you're thinking switching to Firefox will fix the problem you're a little beyond naive. I'm hoping whereever you work - Someone has set the windows machines in the network to autoupdate without the user intervention. Cause securing a system by switching to firefox is laughable at best.
And yes, I'm using firefox right now because I like the features it includes - However - I don't feel secure using it because - well, Time will show.
Sure, I asked for it, but what about that excuses MS? If I were a mechanic and noticed that Honda Civics engines died if people were a few days late changing the oil, then sure, you could say, "Well, what are you complaining for? It's your job to fix cars!" You could also advise me to tell my customers who owned Civics to make sure they change their oil on time. None of this, however, would let Honda off the hook for making a sub-standard product. If I knew Civics showed this behavior, I would advise people to purchase another model of car. Likewise, I generally advise people to use something other than Windows.
Software isn't cars - so flatly the comparison failes. However - if we must use the comparison it's more like "Hi, I have this civic, and I just got a free hydraulic snowplow from this guy down the street, and we bolted it in (or I did, I don't remember) Now my cars front end is sitting on the tires and it won't move - so I want you to fix your defective civic." "Whattya mean it's not a design fault? There were places to bolt it into the frame!"
You're naive. Education paired with locking users down to a secure profile and a proper array of anti-spyware software (and switching to Firefox) has been doing a pretty good job at my company, but education alone? No.
How am I naive? Sounds like your "educated users" are stupid. Again - FUD
Not disagreeing... However, if you have a grandmother who is liable to want the new free weather software no matter what you tell her, isn't it then better to put her on a system where the free weather software, or just visiting the free weather software's web site, isn't likely to cause her harm? I mean, if that's the grandmother you're dealing with, why are you insisting that, no, she *must* be given this insecure system, and any argument to the contrary is FUD?
Yes. Because she hasn't been given an "Unsecure system" - It is secure - It works well. If she could learn how to properly use it then you wouldn't have this discussion then. Going back to the car example - I'm shure she had lessons and learned the rules of the road - Like not driving on sidewalks. So yes, we're back to fud.
I wasn't complaining about my job. I was saying that you don't seem to have any idea what it takes to do my job.
Maybe not your job, But a similiar one where it's done correctly
Part of my job is to make purchasing recommendations based on what technology is going to best help the business run smoothly. Given the current state of things, I advise against Windows (where feasible). It's not FUD, it's experience.
or lack there of... But again, if you can't educate the users - kill their net connection till they get a clue.
Hyping this on Microsoft is where I'm digging my heels in here - The problem lies with the users and the people who want clueless users to fall in their clutches. And when another browser or OS reaches the same market share you'll be seeing the same products written for them as well.
No one pointed a gun to their head to make them buy the system and then not learn to use it.
And if you're doing help desk work - well, you asked for it. You're dealing with the clueless dips. I quit a good paying job as a boxman in a casino because I was dealing with the dregs of humanity. I knew I couldn't rely on the customers to learn my job, or behave properly, or even have an ounce of courtesy - One day I almost lunged over a craps table to beat the crap out a loser that blew cigar smoke dead in my face.
Does that mean all people are fucking assholes that deserve to be beaten? Nope. But I took a pay cut and started working a diferent job in a different field. I started as a data miner and am now happily programming with other folks that understand systems.
Does education stop spyware infestations? Absofuckinglutely. Should Microsoft be held accountable for the predatory practices of others or the stupidity of their users? Nope.
No one is holding a gun to the head of the pron surfer, noone is holding a gun to the head of a warez kiddie. Noone is holding a gun to the head of a grandmother that clicks the new free software for weather - and infecting her system either.
Should Microsoft be held accountable for issues like slammer? If and Only when they don't release a patch before it hits. So far - that hasn't happened.
So again.. FUD
As an aside - I'd really look to get a job where you have a bit more control or a bit more of a future - Help desk shit gets you stressed almost as bad as food service or casino jobs do.
ahh, so surfing to my website is going to hijack the browsewr and blow up your hard drive? Wait - I get it, CNN is really out to pound you with trojans - No wait - Heck Slashdot is there to kill off all x86 systems and will cause your power supply to suddenly leap forth and strangle you with its power cord? Ohh, and my e-mail has been relatively spam free too. My dad stopped going to the flash/joke sites, and learned to say no. Like my grandfather did, and my brother did, and damn near anyone I bother to take five minutes to explain the net do.
It IS easy - tell them where not to go, tell them to watch what they do, and above all stay on top of updates.
I know it's pretty difficult to do - I figure it takes a bit more than the brain power of a lemur. A smart lemur - but a lemur none the less.
To me it's the User that's at fault - not the system. Tell your users to avoid Kazaa, Bonzai Buddy, stop surfing porn sitres , and pay for the software instead of using warez and cracks.
So yes - It's a lot of FUD.