With a mixed up storage system that isn't easily moved (not without getting assloads of different folders everywhere) and it now taking 4 mins and 37 seconds to open a message...Outlook still takes the cake. Thunderbird can hook up to Exchange through IMAP. You will be able to keep your mails on the server, and handle them with relative ease. That is, unless you keep your stuff on pst files.
their calendar plug-in is a joke. I fully agree with you there. The Outlook/Exchange combo is far ahead from Thunderbird yet. I haven't tried Evolution. The main problem with these clients is that they do not have a mature enough server to go head to head with Exchange. OpenExchange looks promising, but haven't looked thoroughly into it.
So I'm a SPEWS zealot because I correctly point out that they do not, in fact, block any mail whatsoever? Ahh! the oystrich approach. This argument has already been rebuttled in this same thread, but keep true to the SPEWS spirit and do not take any accountability for your actions.
I take it that only SPEWS zealots speak the truth about SPEWS, and that it's expected that all non-zealots lie? Oh no, only us, liars and crime supporting ISP users.
and it even it does not support your claim that SPEWS will block entire countries.
1st Paragraph, 2nd sentence: "Their blocklist includes entire states...". Gosh man, please tell me honestly, did you even read beyond the title?
In fact, none of the links have direct relevance to the bullet points that you mentioned. Yep body, you keep telling yourself that.
I was right. You are nothing but a shameless liar. don't forget a crime supporting ISP user there!
That would make you a liar.
It seems to be you are a bit of a fanboy and SPEWS zealot. It's ok, you are free to use whatever you want to filter your mail. Hell, man, as far as I am concerned, you might as well redirect everything to/dev/null.
A reference would be nice, though I'm not surprised that you didn't support this claim with evidence. After all, you already established earlier that you are a liar.
I just googled for SPEWS, must of the stuff that came up were real jewels exposing the facts I mentioned above, but if you really insist on having them plastered on your face, let me help you out:
SPEWS will block entire countries, without any consideration to the spam to ham ratio. Their blacklist is poorly maintained, their policies regarding entry and removal from it is a joke and prone to verbal abuse. Even they advise upone their usage as experimental and not reliable enough for production.
Good luck filtering any serious mail servers with these bozos.
You might be able to convince them based on the licensing and service costs. Try making it a business case, exposing how much would it cost to have inhouse support for Debian vs Novell support for Suse. Be realistic, don't be quick at dismissing the costs of inhouse support for Debian. If you can, get some of the folks at IBM to back the feasability of the case, telling that, though unsupported, they dont forsee any trouble.
Depending on how critical the production end of your environment, you might be able to pull it off. Always bear in mind if for any reason the tested scripts will not run on the production end, the excrement will be flying your way. This decision might come to haunt you later if you keep your current employer.
The only way to educate them is to stop replying to the mortgage spam. As long as they can buy leads, they will because it is profitable for them to do so.
That is a sensitive response, but as far as I am concerned it would just take too much money, time and effort to educate every looser out there.
I'd rather the they-sent-me-unsolicited-information, i'll-send-them-unsolicited-information approach. This basically consists on poisoning their data base, with bogus realistic looking data! Try feeling in the forms with random bogus data (please, kids, do not enter data of reputable entities such as Mr. Valennti, good old Darl, Mr Ralsky or any other slime we have all come to love).
Banks and alike buy mortage contacts for 50 bucks a piece (now you know why is there so much spam of this kind). Every fake contact you enter will produce a 50 dollar loss for the scourge who ends buying the database. If enough critial mass is reached (30-40%) of the database, the costs will skyrocket for the scums, and their business will stop being profitable.
An appropriate price, I think, given what they're smoking over at SCO. So, you too think they would be more successful if they switched their business model to that of an FDA test lab?
The following post circulated usenet for a couple of months... it made me laugh until tears rolled:
Q&A: THE PENTIUM FDIV BUG
Q: How many Pentium designers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: 1.99904274017, but that's close enough for non-technical people.
Q: What's another name for the "Intel Inside" sticker they put on
Pentiums?
A: The warning label.
Q: What do you call a series of FDIV instructions on a Pentium?
A: Successive approximations.
Q: Complete the following word analogy: Add is to Subtract as Multiply
is to:
1) Divide
2) ROUND
3) RANDOM
4) On a Pentium, all of the above
A: Number 4.
Q: What algorithm did Intel use in the Pentium's floating point divider?
A: "Life is like a box of chocolates." (Source: F. Gump of Intel)
Q: Why didn't Intel call the Pentium the 586?
A: Because they added 486 and 100 on the first Pentium and got
585.999983605.
Q: According to Intel, the Pentium conforms to the IEEE standards 754
and 854 for floating point arithmetic. If you fly in aircraft
designed using a Pentium, what is the correct pronunciation of
"IEEE"?
A: Aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee]
TOP TEN NEW INTEL SLOGANS FOR THE PENTIUM
9.9999973251 It's a FLAW, Dammit, not a Bug
8.9999163362 It's Close Enough, We Say So
7.9999414610 Nearly 300 Correct Opcodes
6.9999831538 You Don't Need to Know What's Inside
5.9999835137 Redefining the PC -- and Mathematics As Well
4.9999999021 We Fixed It, Really
3.9998245917 Division Considered Harmful
2.9991523619 Why Do You Think They Call It *Floating* Point?
1.9999103517 We're Looking for a Few Good Flaws
0.9999999998 The Errata Inside
For whatever its worth, SCO's Mexico Webpage has been dead since friday (no ping answer). I know, it might be anything, but I still hope I can eventually see the same anwser I get from SCO's Polland exwebpage on the mexican site.
...beating up government officials is always hazardous to one's health, especially in a disarmed society.
You must be a NRA member.... I'll tell you what, why dont you arm these kids and send them off to fight the chinese army. Lets see if arming them does really make a difference.
Excelent points you make in your post, I always had the nit-pick about exactly why Turing was so important when Lady Ada had practically been the first programmer.
Also, lots of memories flashed from my now long gone computer language class. It would have been great assistance to be able to read your post while trying to figure out, exactly why was so important that lambda thingie they tried to teach us.
...And I think it's funny that her Kawasaki probably would have been worth as much as a whole town in that part of the world in 1985.
Ummm... you basically have no idea of the value of things. Your comment is not only insensitive but also rude to anybody who has had to live through an evacuation.
...The DHTML or whatever is used to give the advanced editing features of Exchange 2000 web mail...
OWA (exchange web interface 5.5 SP4) and Mozilla get along just fine, I have never noticed any problem among them. Since firefox is gecko based, I don't forsee any problems. What versions are you using that are causing you conflict?
...I guess it would be interesting to see some pro-guys playing a game which I have tried to master, and figuring out how they think.
You can always download the replays of the latest cybergames for starcraft (others too), it would be interesting to have this commented out by somebody else, but hey, its better than nothing.
Nice way of thinking... I am certain Stalin, Hitler, Musollini, Pinochet, Franco, Castro and even your beloved president Bush will share your way of seeing things. The only diplomacy they ever understood was the way of the guns.
The best kind of spam to response is the one offering to refinance your mortage/credit/whatever. The buyers of the database will pay up to 50 dollars per "lead".
It seems that the bus through which peripherals connected to the C64 had the concept of channels. By some wierd technicality, prg files could only be loaded through the 1 channel (never got to understand why). The printer itself was just another device (on most systems it was device 9).
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With a mixed up storage system that isn't easily moved (not without getting assloads of different folders everywhere) and it now taking 4 mins and 37 seconds to open a message...Outlook still takes the cake.
Thunderbird can hook up to Exchange through IMAP. You will be able to keep your mails on the server, and handle them with relative ease. That is, unless you keep your stuff on pst files.
their calendar plug-in is a joke.
I fully agree with you there. The Outlook/Exchange combo is far ahead from Thunderbird yet. I haven't tried Evolution. The main problem with these clients is that they do not have a mature enough server to go head to head with Exchange. OpenExchange looks promising, but haven't looked thoroughly into it.
So I'm a SPEWS zealot because I correctly point out that they do not, in fact, block any mail whatsoever?
Ahh! the oystrich approach. This argument has already been rebuttled in this same thread, but keep true to the SPEWS spirit and do not take any accountability for your actions.
I take it that only SPEWS zealots speak the truth about SPEWS, and that it's expected that all non-zealots lie?
Oh no, only us, liars and crime supporting ISP users.
and it even it does not support your claim that SPEWS will block entire countries.
1st Paragraph, 2nd sentence: "Their blocklist includes entire states...". Gosh man, please tell me honestly, did you even read beyond the title?
In fact, none of the links have direct relevance to the bullet points that you mentioned.
Yep body, you keep telling yourself that.
I was right. You are nothing but a shameless liar.
don't forget a crime supporting ISP user there!
That would make you a liar. /dev/null.
It seems to be you are a bit of a fanboy and SPEWS zealot. It's ok, you are free to use whatever you want to filter your mail. Hell, man, as far as I am concerned, you might as well redirect everything to
A reference would be nice, though I'm not surprised that you didn't support this claim with evidence. After all, you already established earlier that you are a liar.
I just googled for SPEWS, must of the stuff that came up were real jewels exposing the facts I mentioned above, but if you really insist on having them plastered on your face, let me help you out:
If you have any more requests, please make sure to accompany them with baseless and trollish accusations. I will be more than happy to reply to you.
SPEWS will block entire countries, without any consideration to the spam to ham ratio. Their blacklist is poorly maintained, their policies regarding entry and removal from it is a joke and prone to verbal abuse. Even they advise upone their usage as experimental and not reliable enough for production.
Good luck filtering any serious mail servers with these bozos.
You might be able to convince them based on the licensing and service costs. Try making it a business case, exposing how much would it cost to have inhouse support for Debian vs Novell support for Suse. Be realistic, don't be quick at dismissing the costs of inhouse support for Debian. If you can, get some of the folks at IBM to back the feasability of the case, telling that, though unsupported, they dont forsee any trouble.
Depending on how critical the production end of your environment, you might be able to pull it off. Always bear in mind if for any reason the tested scripts will not run on the production end, the excrement will be flying your way. This decision might come to haunt you later if you keep your current employer.
That is a sensitive response, but as far as I am concerned it would just take too much money, time and effort to educate every looser out there.
I'd rather the they-sent-me-unsolicited-information, i'll-send-them-unsolicited-information approach. This basically consists on poisoning their data base, with bogus realistic looking data! Try feeling in the forms with random bogus data (please, kids, do not enter data of reputable entities such as Mr. Valennti, good old Darl, Mr Ralsky or any other slime we have all come to love).
Banks and alike buy mortage contacts for 50 bucks a piece (now you know why is there so much spam of this kind). Every fake contact you enter will produce a 50 dollar loss for the scourge who ends buying the database. If enough critial mass is reached (30-40%) of the database, the costs will skyrocket for the scums, and their business will stop being profitable.
Is there really any need to have bluetooth turned on all the time?
Only if you live in the UK.
An appropriate price, I think, given what they're smoking over at SCO.
So, you too think they would be more successful if they switched their business model to that of an FDA test lab?
The following post circulated usenet for a couple of months... it made me laugh until tears rolled:
Q&A: THE PENTIUM FDIV BUG
Q: How many Pentium designers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: 1.99904274017, but that's close enough for non-technical people.
Q: What's another name for the "Intel Inside" sticker they put on
Pentiums?
A: The warning label.
Q: What do you call a series of FDIV instructions on a Pentium?
A: Successive approximations.
Q: Complete the following word analogy: Add is to Subtract as Multiply
is to:
1) Divide
2) ROUND
3) RANDOM
4) On a Pentium, all of the above
A: Number 4.
Q: What algorithm did Intel use in the Pentium's floating point divider?
A: "Life is like a box of chocolates." (Source: F. Gump of Intel)
Q: Why didn't Intel call the Pentium the 586?
A: Because they added 486 and 100 on the first Pentium and got
585.999983605.
Q: According to Intel, the Pentium conforms to the IEEE standards 754
and 854 for floating point arithmetic. If you fly in aircraft
designed using a Pentium, what is the correct pronunciation of
"IEEE"?
A: Aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee]
TOP TEN NEW INTEL SLOGANS FOR THE PENTIUM
9.9999973251 It's a FLAW, Dammit, not a Bug
8.9999163362 It's Close Enough, We Say So
7.9999414610 Nearly 300 Correct Opcodes
6.9999831538 You Don't Need to Know What's Inside
5.9999835137 Redefining the PC -- and Mathematics As Well
4.9999999021 We Fixed It, Really
3.9998245917 Division Considered Harmful
2.9991523619 Why Do You Think They Call It *Floating* Point?
1.9999103517 We're Looking for a Few Good Flaws
0.9999999998 The Errata Inside
No, goodness forsake. It might actually compel people to plant mines
For whatever its worth, SCO's Mexico Webpage has been dead since friday (no ping answer). I know, it might be anything, but I still hope I can eventually see the same anwser I get from SCO's Polland exwebpage on the mexican site.
Yep, graveyards are full of such differences. Most likely they would be labeled as terrorrists and shot on sight.
I can assure you that the folks at Tiang Yang Square did make a real difference, and please do note, none of them had guns.
You must be a NRA member.... I'll tell you what, why dont you arm these kids and send them off to fight the chinese army. Lets see if arming them does really make a difference.
Excelent points you make in your post, I always had the nit-pick about exactly why Turing was so important when Lady Ada had practically been the first programmer.
Also, lots of memories flashed from my now long gone computer language class. It would have been great assistance to be able to read your post while trying to figure out, exactly why was so important that lambda thingie they tried to teach us.
The following article is brief on technical details, but it will give you a general idea on how it is done:
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http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=5000031
...And I think it's funny that her Kawasaki probably would have been worth as much as a whole town in that part of the world in 1985.
Ummm... you basically have no idea of the value of things. Your comment is not only insensitive but also rude to anybody who has had to live through an evacuation.
OWA (exchange web interface 5.5 SP4) and Mozilla get along just fine, I have never noticed any problem among them. Since firefox is gecko based, I don't forsee any problems. What versions are you using that are causing you conflict?
Really? I have been browsing through an MS proxy server since 1.4.
You can always download the replays of the latest cybergames for starcraft (others too), it would be interesting to have this commented out by somebody else, but hey, its better than nothing.
Knock yourself out: WCG Starcraft tournament2003 WCG Starcraft finals
Nice way of thinking... I am certain Stalin, Hitler, Musollini, Pinochet, Franco, Castro and even your beloved president Bush will share your way of seeing things. The only diplomacy they ever understood was the way of the guns.
But I am certain a lot of pervies will say you are.
The best kind of spam to response is the one offering to refinance your mortage/credit/whatever. The buyers of the database will pay up to 50 dollars per "lead".
Maybe we should help them out and point them to the goatse guy?
It seems that the bus through which peripherals connected to the C64 had the concept of channels. By some wierd technicality, prg files could only be loaded through the 1 channel (never got to understand why).
The printer itself was just another device (on most systems it was device 9).