No, you obviously don't know what we are talking about.
Press CTRL-R and some letters: the history is searched backwards for that command. Press it again and go back for other occurrences.
doskey... pah!
And we are NOT talking of "addons". Most of the pipe filters are part of the basic binary apps.
Sure, if you are on a Digital Unix 4.0 machine you are pretty much stranded with the oldish and poor userland utilities, but on modern linux CLIs all the things I'm talking about are there FOR SURE.
Installing a *nix app in my book means "windows has a featureless cli".
Oh, and please, try this on windows:
$ for file in 'ls image*.jpg'; do echo "Processing $file..."; mv $file 'date +%d%m%Y'-$file-image.jpg; done
...and this is without checking manpages, and really only a very simple example. (yes, I know about the backticks, but I have no time to search how to post those in slashdot)
Anybody who has used the unix comandline for REAL knows why even experienced admins think that windows lacks a commandline.
No completion, no reverse-search in history, no pipe filters (and no, pipe more does not count), and so on...
Sure, if you install cygwin you get a lot of the stuff you have on *nix, but this simply proves the point: to have decent commandline tools you have to install a POSIX emulation layer.
I guess VB is belittled not because of features, but because of the horrid quality of common vb apps.
And for the poor quality of the language.
And 'cause it tends to change and be incompatible from version to version...and so on...
Will gambas apps be better than vb apps? If they are written by the same monkeys I don't think so.
The release of gambas IS great news, however, simply 'cause now we can reply to the endless "there is no simple RAD solution under linux" rants with "then use gambas, you fool!"
Yes, Windows Server CAN support multiple remote connections, but at what cost?
I'm not simply speaking of TS-CALs (not the same of CALs, they are bought separately), but also Office TS-CALs (yes, they are bought separately), and hardware costs.
I had experience of a TS setup with Windows2000 Server and forty connections where more than enough to bring a fairly quick machine (a proliant with a boatload of RAM) to his knees, and the company had to buy a second one.
Compare this with the famous setup of the city of Largo, California. With a couple of similar machines they support 400 users, of which 200 are concurrent (AFAIR).
VNC on linux is normally implemented with a X-VNC transparent conversion, and I am pretty sure NX CAN compress RFB connections, from what I remember reading. Never tried it, though... If someone has experience in this field, I'll welcome corrections.
Look, I'll try to explain this again: IT DOES NOT MATTER!
At least certainly not to the "wide public". People normally don't even know that you can exclude words (in google with the minus), do you really think they'll learn boolean logic to do complex OR and AND queries?
I'm not saying that AV query language is not wonderful, I'm saying that it does not matter at all to make the top search engine.
It's pretty much unknown tech around here (italy), so I'd be justified in writing a news item like it was a breakthrough in technology!
H3G, known in italy simply as "3" is a UMTS mobile operator and has been selling phones and "datacards" (PCMCIA phones) for I think two years now.
If in a UMTS covered zone (in italy most biggest cities, and expanding) you get bandwitdh similar to ADSL. If you step outside the coverage of the 3G network the connection drops to a fast GPRS roaming with another operator.
Actually, right from the start the technical reviewers have been saying that Videocalling is the least interesting use of UMTS, and preaching for the data connections.
So I reiterate: how a Vodafone UMTS card is news? We've been shipping and configuring those to the agents of a large italian food group in the last months (we do tech support for them)... and vodafone has LESS umts coverage than 3, and just started to offer it.
I don't question the sheer power of the query language (I honestly don't know it at all). But I clearly remember the pre-google days when you'd search the same thing on multiple engines, comparing the results (which lead to meta-engines), and the "your search matched 1,346,789 pages" in Altavista.
If I search for something in google it is normally in the first page (most commonly in the first 3 links), or it does not exist at all.
Do you imply that writing a correct query in altavista would lead to similar results? Why should I? I can write a couple of words in google and press I feel lucky!
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If you did not notice, MS normally uses the services of Akamai to auto-distribute the load of their DNS AND their content servers. The images, media and download files are hosted on (linux) akamai servers, and are auto-mirrored to practically every ISP in the known world(s).
Yeah, right... go ahead and use Windows NT 4.0 for Alpha... I'll just stand by and grin maniacally looking at you struggling with that piece of cr*p.
Oh, and please... go ahead and install 3D hardware acceleration support and your good looking USB mouse, I'll wait here grinning.
Every time someone points out that linux (or BSD, for that matter) has support for a bazillion architectures there is a ms monkey that comes out with NT for Alpha. You compare a stone age OS for a kind of machines that does not exist anymore (and I know, I worked with Alpha1000 machines with Digital Unix 4.0 and we have a couple of Alpha300(?) that even have the Windows logo on it) with bleeding edge linux distros......stop posting this nonsense!
If anything it will be one more anti trust case out of the way. They'll pay their fine and be on their way. "We paid our fine, what else do you want from us".
But I think you missed the meaning of the fine: what the EU decided is that MS is to be fined up to 1 Billion EUR, AND has to split MediaPlayer from Windows, and we'll see what else.
It is not a OR, it's an AND!
And, the fine is only the first step:
You do something wrong
You get fined
You continue on your way
You get fined AGAIN, and for more money
...and so on, until you comply.
What's more to say: Go Monti! (yeah, I'm Italian, it's good to have someone to cheer for just for a change...)
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(dunno what yahoo companion is supposed to do, sorry... but pretty much sure FireFox does that natively or with an extension ^__^ )
Here in Italy every single CD from Virgin, EMI, and I am sure many others is protected by "Copy Control" and has an ugly circular logo on a sticker.
On the back of the cd, in very small print and often only in english there is a notice saying that the media MIGHT refuse to work with car-stereos, personal computers, etc.
Oh, and obviously there is no "Compact Disc" philips logo anywhere to be found on the disc...
I tried every single ripping technology I'm aware of (cdparanoia, cdda2wav, eac, easy cd ripper), and NONE of them can rip the cd. On windows it is even difficult to obtain a full TOC of the audio cd!
The extracted wav contains very very audible clicks and disruptions of the music content.
If you know a method to bypass this (without resorting to analog ripping) please let me know: I'm tired of bringing with me my Blind Guardian double Live album in the car risking every time to break or scratch it.
Did you read past the first 3 lines on the website?
Go read the licenses: what company name do you read there?
On my screen FireFox renders seveal times the word "Intel"... but maybe It's just me.
They are releasing the specs and a semi-working beta to the community. Their developers AND the voluntary ones will improve the driver.
That's EXACTLY what linux users and developers have been asking for ages, i reckon.
It's a win-win situation: Intel gets a fully working and highly optimized driver for free and in a shorter time, and the community gets a GOOD driver for free.
Now tell us: what's wrong with Intel's approach, please.
Uh... I rarely use KDE, even on RedHat, but this sounds weird to me. The ONLY screensavers I know for linux are those in the xscreensaver package (and the RSS_GLX screensavers, of course, but you have to hunt for the rpm if you are not familiar with source installs).
The only difference I can think of is that using xscreensaver from the commandline one often discovers options for the screensavers that are not in the GUIs.
Anyway, It's only a matter of tools: knowing what is available and how to use it.
At the moment I'm not aware of a friendly gui to do this, but still...
prompt$ locate whatever
returns every file path that contains "whatever"
prompt$ rpm -ql PackageName
returns the list of files inside said package.
> Other path problem examples include postgreSQL
Did you install the package taken from YOUR distro or the one from the developers site? If the package is made for your distro, the path will be correct (bugs and errors nonwithstanding; in that case let your distro know it).
>As far as tab-completion is concerned, that's only useful if you know the command or the file name.
First of all, tab-completion normally works only for executables and for files in the current dir, so if you are looking for config files, look elsewhere.
You do not know the name of the command? Then you should look inside the package: all those in.../bin/ and../sbin/ dirs are commands.
To look inside the package "rpm -qpl filename.rpm" or "rpm -ql PackageName" if already installed.
You don't want to use the command line? Well, I have to admit this is often a problem. I seem to recall that in mandrake the package management tool lets you see all info on the packages, including the file list... but on redhat there is nothing like that out of the box.
I should really write one... I'll put this on my to-hack list ^__^
Last thing, if you are looking for config files and such, in 90% of the cases you are talking of rather non-end-user stuff (like Postgres). So I'll give you the best advice: read the FINE manual! ^__^ At the end of man pages usually there is a list of relevant files, and the documentation is generally useful for stuff like install, setup and such.
You write: "For example, do you know where the desktop screensaver is? "
This is one of the biggest gripes of windows users when trying to switch to linux... and one I always find amazing, probably because I'm now more familiar with linux than with windows.
Well, here it comes the Big Revelation: It Doesn't Fscking Matters!
I'm not mad: under linux all the binaries (that is, your programs) are already in your path, unless you are trying some badly packaged app. So you simply type the name of the app (or, more conveniently, the first 2 or 3 letters, then hit TAB), press ENTER and you are done.
From the second time on you can add a launcher to your panels, if the app really is NOT in your menus...
As for the screensavers... how difficult is to click Menu->Preferences->Screensaver (redhat example)?
What is really missing (in redhat, at least) is a good package management gui that lets you run searches (rpm -q[if]) and gives the package descriptions and list of files and such, which would be useful for example to answer those questions such "where are my screensavers?" or "this/usr/share/foo/bar/baz.so belongs to what package?"... maybe ad add-on to synaptic? (sort of a heir to gnorpm)
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No, you obviously don't know what we are talking about.
Press CTRL-R and some letters: the history is searched backwards for that command. Press it again and go back for other occurrences.
doskey... pah!
And we are NOT talking of "addons". Most of the pipe filters are part of the basic binary apps.
Sure, if you are on a Digital Unix 4.0 machine you are pretty much stranded with the oldish and poor userland utilities, but on modern linux CLIs all the things I'm talking about are there FOR SURE.
Installing a *nix app in my book means "windows has a featureless cli".
Oh, and please, try this on windows:
(yes, I know about the backticks, but I have no time to search how to post those in slashdot)
Anybody who has used the unix comandline for REAL knows why even experienced admins think that windows lacks a commandline.
No completion, no reverse-search in history, no pipe filters (and no, pipe more does not count), and so on...
Sure, if you install cygwin you get a lot of the stuff you have on *nix, but this simply proves the point: to have decent commandline tools you have to install a POSIX emulation layer.
I know perfectly well.
...don't know, i program in vim only (even on win, obviously)
I use python to develop even on windows.
But people are normally whining for an integrated suite with drag and drop UI building...
I guess VB is belittled not because of features, but because of the horrid quality of common vb apps.
...and so on...
And for the poor quality of the language.
And 'cause it tends to change and be incompatible from version to version
Will gambas apps be better than vb apps? If they are written by the same monkeys I don't think so.
The release of gambas IS great news, however, simply 'cause now we can reply to the endless "there is no simple RAD solution under linux" rants with "then use gambas, you fool!"
Your friend could not set "LBA" for his HD in the BIOS?
He would have recovered all his data.
Yes, Windows Server CAN support multiple remote connections, but at what cost?
I'm not simply speaking of TS-CALs (not the same of CALs, they are bought separately), but also Office TS-CALs (yes, they are bought separately), and hardware costs.
I had experience of a TS setup with Windows2000 Server and forty connections where more than enough to bring a fairly quick machine (a proliant with a boatload of RAM) to his knees, and the company had to buy a second one.
Compare this with the famous setup of the city of Largo, California. With a couple of similar machines they support 400 users, of which 200 are concurrent (AFAIR).
VNC on linux is normally implemented with a X-VNC transparent conversion, and I am pretty sure NX CAN compress RFB connections, from what I remember reading. Never tried it, though... If someone has experience in this field, I'll welcome corrections.
No, they don't.
FC3 has gnome 2.8, which includes by default "Vino", a vnc server that serves the
I hope in the future vino and vncserver will use the NX (nomachine) compression like in freeNX. That would be a definite speedup...
You mean... the KERNEL bug that was fixed simply setting the HD to LBA in the Bios and rebooting?
Yeah, that was hard. NOT!
Look, I'll try to explain this again: IT DOES NOT MATTER!
At least certainly not to the "wide public". People normally don't even know that you can exclude words (in google with the minus), do you really think they'll learn boolean logic to do complex OR and AND queries?
I'm not saying that AV query language is not wonderful, I'm saying that it does not matter at all to make the top search engine.
What next, a news item on Gigabit Ethernet?
It's pretty much unknown tech around here (italy), so I'd be justified in writing a news item like it was a breakthrough in technology!
H3G, known in italy simply as "3" is a UMTS mobile operator and has been selling phones and "datacards" (PCMCIA phones) for I think two years now.
If in a UMTS covered zone (in italy most biggest cities, and expanding) you get bandwitdh similar to ADSL. If you step outside the coverage of the 3G network the connection drops to a fast GPRS roaming with another operator.
Actually, right from the start the technical reviewers have been saying that Videocalling is the least interesting use of UMTS, and preaching for the data connections.
So I reiterate: how a Vodafone UMTS card is news?
We've been shipping and configuring those to the agents of a large italian food group in the last months (we do tech support for them)... and vodafone has LESS umts coverage than 3, and just started to offer it.
I don't question the sheer power of the query language (I honestly don't know it at all). But I clearly remember the pre-google days when you'd search the same thing on multiple engines, comparing the results (which lead to meta-engines), and the "your search matched 1,346,789 pages" in Altavista.
If I search for something in google it is normally in the first page (most commonly in the first 3 links), or it does not exist at all.
Do you imply that writing a correct query in altavista would lead to similar results? Why should I? I can write a couple of words in google and press I feel lucky!
Yeah, right, like the marketshare of FF and Safari made google what it is today.
Don't be silly, please.
Google was already the best search engine out there, and outshining Altavista (previous top-dog), before the toolbars/searchboxes even existed.
And new prices!
(you silly!)
If you did not notice, MS normally uses the services of Akamai to auto-distribute the load of their DNS AND their content servers. The images, media and download files are hosted on (linux) akamai servers, and are auto-mirrored to practically every ISP in the known world(s).
So the bandwith excuse is not an option...
Yeah, right... go ahead and use Windows NT 4.0 for Alpha... I'll just stand by and grin maniacally looking at you struggling with that piece of cr*p.
...stop posting this nonsense!
Oh, and please... go ahead and install 3D hardware acceleration support and your good looking USB mouse, I'll wait here grinning.
Every time someone points out that linux (or BSD, for that matter) has support for a bazillion architectures there is a ms monkey that comes out with NT for Alpha. You compare a stone age OS for a kind of machines that does not exist anymore (and I know, I worked with Alpha1000 machines with Digital Unix 4.0 and we have a couple of Alpha300(?) that even have the Windows logo on it) with bleeding edge linux distros...
Hehe... somehow, I think the Asimov's Foundadion reference was not widely caught...
^____^
(and, btw, you spoiled the final surprise of a multi book story without propre spoiler warning! )
NoMachine had opensourced the NX products, so anybody has the legal right of forking and renaming it.
Nothing particularly new: firms will continue to give money to NoMachine for support and administration tools.
Have fun...
Don't be silly: the whole case started at the request of American companies (Real and SUN Microsystem).
And the EU has fined european companies many times, and for huge amounts of money.
Bye, and enjoy your little american world!
But I think you missed the meaning of the fine: what the EU decided is that MS is to be fined up to 1 Billion EUR, AND has to split MediaPlayer from Windows, and we'll see what else.
It is not a OR, it's an AND!
And, the fine is only the first step:
What's more to say: Go Monti!
(yeah, I'm Italian, it's good to have someone to cheer for just for a change...)
GoogleBar for Mozilla
Enjoy!
(dunno what yahoo companion is supposed to do, sorry... but pretty much sure FireFox does that natively or with an extension ^__^ )
Here in Italy every single CD from Virgin, EMI, and I am sure many others is protected by "Copy Control" and has an ugly circular logo on a sticker.
On the back of the cd, in very small print and often only in english there is a notice saying that the media MIGHT refuse to work with car-stereos, personal computers, etc.
Oh, and obviously there is no "Compact Disc" philips logo anywhere to be found on the disc...
I tried every single ripping technology I'm aware of (cdparanoia, cdda2wav, eac, easy cd ripper), and NONE of them can rip the cd. On windows it is even difficult to obtain a full TOC of the audio cd!
The extracted wav contains very very audible clicks and disruptions of the music content.
If you know a method to bypass this (without resorting to analog ripping) please let me know: I'm tired of bringing with me my Blind Guardian double Live album in the car risking every time to break or scratch it.
Bye, Renato
Did you read past the first 3 lines on the website?
Go read the licenses: what company name do you read there?
On my screen FireFox renders seveal times the word "Intel"... but maybe It's just me.
They are releasing the specs and a semi-working beta to the community. Their developers AND the voluntary ones will improve the driver.
That's EXACTLY what linux users and developers have been asking for ages, i reckon.
It's a win-win situation: Intel gets a fully working and highly optimized driver for free and in a shorter time, and the community gets a GOOD driver for free.
Now tell us: what's wrong with Intel's approach, please.
>KDE and Xscreensaver don't use the same stuff.
.../bin/ and ../sbin/ dirs are commands.
Uh... I rarely use KDE, even on RedHat, but this sounds weird to me. The ONLY screensavers I know for linux are those in the xscreensaver package (and the RSS_GLX screensavers, of course, but you have to hunt for the rpm if you are not familiar with source installs).
The only difference I can think of is that using xscreensaver from the commandline one often discovers options for the screensavers that are not in the GUIs.
Anyway, It's only a matter of tools: knowing what is available and how to use it.
At the moment I'm not aware of a friendly gui to do this, but still...
prompt$ locate whatever
returns every file path that contains "whatever"
prompt$ rpm -ql PackageName
returns the list of files inside said package.
> Other path problem examples include postgreSQL
Did you install the package taken from YOUR distro or the one from the developers site? If the package is made for your distro, the path will be correct (bugs and errors nonwithstanding; in that case let your distro know it).
>As far as tab-completion is concerned, that's only useful if you know the command or the file name.
First of all, tab-completion normally works only for executables and for files in the current dir, so if you are looking for config files, look elsewhere.
You do not know the name of the command? Then you should look inside the package: all those in
To look inside the package "rpm -qpl filename.rpm" or "rpm -ql PackageName" if already installed.
You don't want to use the command line? Well, I have to admit this is often a problem. I seem to recall that in mandrake the package management tool lets you see all info on the packages, including the file list... but on redhat there is nothing like that out of the box.
I should really write one... I'll put this on my to-hack list ^__^
Last thing, if you are looking for config files and such, in 90% of the cases you are talking of rather non-end-user stuff (like Postgres). So I'll give you the best advice: read the FINE manual! ^__^
At the end of man pages usually there is a list of relevant files, and the documentation is generally useful for stuff like install, setup and such.
Have Fun!
You write: "For example, do you know where the desktop screensaver is? "
/usr/share/foo/bar/baz.so belongs to what package?" ... maybe ad add-on to synaptic? (sort of a heir to gnorpm)
This is one of the biggest gripes of windows users when trying to switch to linux... and one I always find amazing, probably because I'm now more familiar with linux than with windows.
Well, here it comes the Big Revelation: It Doesn't Fscking Matters!
I'm not mad: under linux all the binaries (that is, your programs) are already in your path, unless you are trying some badly packaged app. So you simply type the name of the app (or, more conveniently, the first 2 or 3 letters, then hit TAB), press ENTER and you are done.
From the second time on you can add a launcher to your panels, if the app really is NOT in your menus...
As for the screensavers... how difficult is to click Menu->Preferences->Screensaver (redhat example)?
What is really missing (in redhat, at least) is a good package management gui that lets you run searches (rpm -q[if]) and gives the package descriptions and list of files and such, which would be useful for example to answer those questions such "where are my screensavers?" or "this
Have fun!