Thats why their are laws for copyright infringemnt, thats why we don't call it theft. Becuase well it's not theft, it's copyright infrigment. Like you said.
The only reason that Disney does this is to extend profits over time Umm yeah, that's what I was talking about. The put a movie on moratorium and when they re-release it again people will buy it because they don't know when it will be avalible again. That's their business model, so they could argue that people selling bootleg copies when it is on moratorium would impact future earnings.
They could get around this need if they'd just start PRODUCING decent products again,
Why does it have to have anything to do with quality of new versus old, that's more of a "the past is always better attitude"
IMHO, kids today like the current disney movies as much as our generation did when we were their age.
You're certainly not damaging their ability to "leverage their assets" since they aren't doing anything to leverage them, and if they'd just sell you a copy, you'd be quite happy to buy it.
Disney does this or rather did do this with it's movies, they would go on moratorium for a while and you couldn't buy it. Snow White, sleeping beauty etc. I only know this from my experience with working at a video rental store, If someone left the tape in the back of their car in sunny Fl it would get all melted/warped and we needed to replace it.
Not that I am defending the copyright holders or anything I'm just playing devils advocate. I know you said this falls in to the realm of laughable when you talk about physical products, but that's what books are right and you also mentioned silent films.
Again I'm not defending the copyright thing here, but giving you a counter argument.
Where is the +5 paranoid moderation. I'm just wonder do a group of posters just sit around and try to figure out how to turn any topic in to a potential privacy issue?
But with the technology infrastructure in place, what happens if congress decides to relax court order requirements in the future 'in their fight against criminals, terrorists and spies?'
Every time a stroy likes this gets posted we don't complain about the facts we get cought up in "what if's"
for some reason this thread reminded me of Futurama Don't quote regulations to me, I was on the commitee of the board to discuss the colour of the book the regulations were in! We kept it grey.
Well thats the problem then isn't it. If their ecopnomy is only 3.7% ag then doesnt that means the import most of their food? All the more reason to inspect whats coming in. You also have to check for illigal good coming in to teh country too.
i was thinkin the same thing. I'm torn between the following two. Is it vapour ware becuase it still impossible to do well or is it vaopurware becuase their just really isn't a demand for it?
Also, piracy is counterproductive for true fans. If Firefly 2.0 gets on SciFi and 80% of you bootleg it, don't expect a third season. I'll never understand the people here who complain about lack of good content yet have 3000 songs from Limewire.
They do, and then some people on/. say we should thank them and actually blame the software vendor, in most cases that usually mean blaming MS. I'm not going to say everyone here but a certain amount gets all upset when they sentence a minor for doing exactly what you suggest.
Regardless of whether one agrees with the banning of sales to minors or not, I think it is somewhat one-sided to only look at the relatively clear alcohol laws. I agree and as we learned in my courts class laws are often times written very vague and are allowed to be defined more clearly by case law.
For me, the fact that police are involved in all 3 of these nonviolent actions is the real crime. In the case of that runaway bride, I think they got involved when she was rpeorted missing and thenthings got even worse when she said she had been kidnapped.
The free cheese whets my appetite and makes me more inclined to buy a half pound of the stuff for later. How is downloading and watching the showes whetting your appitie? It seems that your getting your fill for free.
Or maybe a better form of protest would be not to have any otf tehir content at all. Think civil rights bus strike. Your post sounds more like justification for an actions more than it does of protest.
I'll give you that, but they aren't saying you cant assamble thay are saying you can't assamble and discuss breaking copyrights, I don't think that violates Article 20 IMHO. You may have an argument about Article 19, but I don't think this right or pretty much any right hsould be limitless. Again thats just my oppinion. And I still think it's petty for people to whine about DRM's and try to relate this to a violation of human rights. Maybe I just don't get it.
Not that I agree with Finland's action, what human rights could you use as an argument to being able to bypass DRM's? Doesn't this just come back to if you don't like it don't buy it? When I think Human Right's I think of "The United Nations Agreements on Human Rights". When you have conventions like protection against torture, whining about DRM's just seems so (for lack of a better word) petty.
I'm not saying the UN is worse that the US. I'm asking if tehy are no better or worse than the US what is teh motivation of the US to give the UN control of the root DNS?
make a new network that is owned and operated exsclusively by USA Yeah and we could name it DARPAnet. Oh wait the US already did that. Maybe you just don't want to remember the past but the US was in fact the country that created what is now called the Internet. The system with the US in control of the DNS servers is working quite well. If it's working right now, which it is because you and I are posting to a forum via the internet, why change it? If you can start providing good reasons then I'll listen but to say it's wrong just because were in control of the DNS servers is not very good reasoning IMHO. You have to be able to prove not only will it work equally well if control is relinquished but that it will in fact work better and I don't see that happening esp giving to the UN which has it's own problems. Responsiveness in Rwanda genocide, putting Libya in charge of human rights, lack of action concerning the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile etc etc.
Gimp has skew/stretch distor thing that is pretty nice. It renders a grid in real time over the layer so you can see what it will look like. I don't know, photoshop probably does the same thing but I can't find it.
How does the OnStar addition change this from any normal recall? I know the manufacture has a responcibilty to inform you if your car has a fault and needs to be recalled but doesn the consumer also have a civic responcibility to at leats try and keep up with this information. If it's published I'd want to know if the vehicle I'm driving is safe. I have a lot riding on it. In it.
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Thats why their are laws for copyright infringemnt, thats why we don't call it theft. Becuase well it's not theft, it's copyright infrigment. Like you said.
The only reason that Disney does this is to extend profits over time
Umm yeah, that's what I was talking about. The put a movie on moratorium and when they re-release it again people will buy it because they don't know when it will be avalible again. That's their business model, so they could argue that people selling bootleg copies when it is on moratorium would impact future earnings.
They could get around this need if they'd just start PRODUCING decent products again,
Why does it have to have anything to do with quality of new versus old, that's more of a "the past is always better attitude"
IMHO, kids today like the current disney movies as much as our generation did when we were their age.
You're certainly not damaging their ability to "leverage their assets" since they aren't doing anything to leverage them, and if they'd just sell you a copy, you'd be quite happy to buy it.
Disney does this or rather did do this with it's movies, they would go on moratorium for a while and you couldn't buy it. Snow White, sleeping beauty etc. I only know this from my experience with working at a video rental store, If someone left the tape in the back of their car in sunny Fl it would get all melted/warped and we needed to replace it.
Not that I am defending the copyright holders or anything I'm just playing devils advocate. I know you said this falls in to the realm of laughable when you talk about physical products, but that's what books are right and you also mentioned silent films.
Again I'm not defending the copyright thing here, but giving you a counter argument.
Only on /. would this be modded insightful.
Where is the +5 paranoid moderation. I'm just wonder do a group of posters just sit around and try to figure out how to turn any topic in to a potential privacy issue?
But with the technology infrastructure in place, what happens if congress decides to relax court order requirements in the future 'in their fight against criminals, terrorists and spies?'
Every time a stroy likes this gets posted we don't complain about the facts we get cought up in "what if's"
for some reason this thread reminded me of Futurama
Don't quote regulations to me, I was on the commitee of the board to discuss the colour of the book the regulations were in! We kept it grey.
Well thats the problem then isn't it. If their ecopnomy is only 3.7% ag then doesnt that means the import most of their food? All the more reason to inspect whats coming in. You also have to check for illigal good coming in to teh country too.
Not that I know anything at all about this.
i was thinkin the same thing. I'm torn between the following two. Is it vapour ware becuase it still impossible to do well or is it vaopurware becuase their just really isn't a demand for it?
Also, piracy is counterproductive for true fans. If Firefly 2.0 gets on SciFi and 80% of you bootleg it, don't expect a third season. I'll never understand the people here who complain about lack of good content yet have 3000 songs from Limewire.
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OMG an actual voice of reason here on
Wait a second, everyone is using it you say. BRB I have to go set up my profile.
They do, and then some people on /. say we should thank them and actually blame the software vendor, in most cases that usually mean blaming MS. I'm not going to say everyone here but a certain amount gets all upset when they sentence a minor for doing exactly what you suggest.
Regardless of whether one agrees with the banning of sales to minors or not, I think it is somewhat one-sided to only look at the relatively clear alcohol laws.
I agree and as we learned in my courts class laws are often times written very vague and are allowed to be defined more clearly by case law.
For me, the fact that police are involved in all 3 of these nonviolent actions is the real crime.
In the case of that runaway bride, I think they got involved when she was rpeorted missing and thenthings got even worse when she said she had been kidnapped.
Your PC "buffers" the stream. RIAA made a case saying the buffering is a recording and therefore they need to be paid.
/ducks
Does that mean you have to pay more when uses RealPlayer?
The free cheese whets my appetite and makes me more inclined to buy a half pound of the stuff for later.
How is downloading and watching the showes whetting your appitie? It seems that your getting your fill for free.
Or maybe a better form of protest would be not to have any otf tehir content at all. Think civil rights bus strike. Your post sounds more like justification for an actions more than it does of protest.
I'll give you that, but they aren't saying you cant assamble thay are saying you can't assamble and discuss breaking copyrights, I don't think that violates Article 20 IMHO. You may have an argument about Article 19, but I don't think this right or pretty much any right hsould be limitless. Again thats just my oppinion. And I still think it's petty for people to whine about DRM's and try to relate this to a violation of human rights. Maybe I just don't get it.
various human rights accords?
Not that I agree with Finland's action, what human rights could you use as an argument to being able to bypass DRM's? Doesn't this just come back to if you don't like it don't buy it? When I think Human Right's I think of "The United Nations Agreements on Human Rights". When you have conventions like protection against torture, whining about DRM's just seems so (for lack of a better word) petty.
I'm not saying the UN is worse that the US. I'm asking if tehy are no better or worse than the US what is teh motivation of the US to give the UN control of the root DNS?
I also understand that the Pinochett regigm played the UN like a harp.
I didn't say the US was not at fault. I just stated the UN isn't any better.
We read/talked in my International Human Rights and Crime class at length about this event. So thank but no I'm not unaware.
make a new network that is owned and operated exsclusively by USA
Yeah and we could name it DARPAnet. Oh wait the US already did that. Maybe you just don't want to remember the past but the US was in fact the country that created what is now called the Internet. The system with the US in control of the DNS servers is working quite well. If it's working right now, which it is because you and I are posting to a forum via the internet, why change it? If you can start providing good reasons then I'll listen but to say it's wrong just because were in control of the DNS servers is not very good reasoning IMHO. You have to be able to prove not only will it work equally well if control is relinquished but that it will in fact work better and I don't see that happening esp giving to the UN which has it's own problems. Responsiveness in Rwanda genocide, putting Libya in charge of human rights, lack of action concerning the Pinochet dictatorship in Chile etc etc.
Gimp has skew/stretch distor thing that is pretty nice. It renders a grid in real time over the layer so you can see what it will look like. I don't know, photoshop probably does the same thing but I can't find it.
Is that an unladen M&M?
How does the OnStar addition change this from any normal recall? I know the manufacture has a responcibilty to inform you if your car has a fault and needs to be recalled but doesn the consumer also have a civic responcibility to at leats try and keep up with this information. If it's published I'd want to know if the vehicle I'm driving is safe. I have a lot riding on it. In it.