I'm not sure about NetBSD, but in FreeBSD you can remove Sendmail entirely. Add "NO_SENDMAIL=true" to make.conf. During your next buildworld sendmail (and related stuff) will not be built. After installworld, do a search for old files - particularly/usr/libexec/sendmail I think is the location. Then install another MTA from ports if you need one.
A case is also important if you want a quiet computer. Getting cheap thin cases that reverberate fan vibration can make a computer much more noisy. Stupid front engine fan aside, the Aerocool has my attention. I've been saying for YEARS that instead of small cheap noisy small fans blowing super fast, they need to put a HUGE freaking fan on the side of the machine. The page says "250mm fans are the latest trend" which could be a quiet PC modders dream come true. I can only hope some of the more high end machines start incorperating this design. The Aerocool unfortunatly looks like it fits into the "cheap shit" category, so I doubt I'd waste my time on it.
Judging by the current overflow of prisons, jail isn't much of a deterrent either. The punishment should fit the crime. I think a fine would be the best option. If you REALLY want to punish them, then jack up the fine.
Not just third world countries. I could see this being a good material for use in regular pole barns, and possibly replaceing corrugated metal in other cheap structures. If this stuff isn't as conductive of heat, it would be ideal for the arid US southwest.
I'll tell you what happened to Via; cheap shit that crashed all the time. I refuse to by ANYTHING with Via in it. Personal bias aside, VIA did actually get left behind in the cheap category where they used to dominate. As AMD started to push into the high performance market with more expensive CPUs, people opted for more expensive boards with them which left VIAs biggest market in AMD chipsets sort of out in the cold. VIA also has higher end stuff, but it was Nvidia chipsets that were first to really shine in the performance area. ATI then competes with Nvidia, and again VIA is sort of the odd ball.
... there is still software around that won't function properly if it's not run that way.... maybe it will lessen the amount of crap software that's designed with the assumption that it's going to be run that way.
That sort of contradicts itself. Wheither MS runs as admin or not has absolutly nothing to do with third party developers requireing their software to do so? Is MS going to tell third party developers not to write registry keys in HKLM (for regular usage)? If developers do it NOW it's because they're freaking lazy or idiots, and that isn't going to change. One peice of software I was told by a vendor required Administrator privleges to run. Turns out it didn't, it just wrote temp files to %windir%/temp instead of a more logical place like whatever %temp% happened to be - stupidity like that has little to do with what MS dictates.
And as you say the legacy is going to be a big hold up anyway, so I doubt anyone will listen to MS telling people to not use old apps - especially if some of them are proprietary apps with no upgrade solutions.
It's also amazing that Sony still hasn't learned it's lesson. But there's a reason for that. This is a case of left hand vs right hand. The hardware engineers make various stuff, but continually have their hands tied behind their backs by the "content" people, or someone else at Sony with another agenda. Each time it is the hardware division that pays the price for everyone meddling in their affairs.
Sony is a company with a good hardware division that implement rather innovative products. I'm sure when they drew the PS3 up they said a Bluray player was fine but as it came to crunch time they wanted to dump it. Yet I'm willing to bet it's the 'content' people who wanted to force BluRay down everyones throat and forced them to put it in and jack the price up WAY too high. The content people are DEMANDING their DRM, and again this is going to fuck over the hardware division of Sony.
At this point the best thing this company could do is split. Cut out the cancer that is Sony records/film and let the hardware people make products that WORK without being crippled. Personally I feel this works to my benefit because with BluRay fighting HD-DVD it's likely that neither will win and DVD will stay; which is exactly the result I want. Go Sony!
Actually I'd like to know where they are going to get these PC's that are not made in China. And why stop at China anyway? Ban all foreign PCs (which isn't going to make much of a difference since they're all made in China anway). Oh, the U.S. doesn't make any anymore? Guess that's too bad for us. Most companies don't even bother hiding where it comes from. My iBook shipped directly from China to my address.
Exactly. I think the price is a bit outragous myself but keep in mind that Sony is going to release this for CHRISTMAS. Even if the fanboys don't get them all the holiday shoppers will. Sounds insane, but kids get insanely priced stuff these days. Even if they priced them at $1000 they'd probably still sell all the consoles available on release date.
There will be a lot of consoles floating around this holiday season. None of them will clearly be shown to pull ahead until around the middle of next year.
The mini has used almost the same components as the ibook since it was introduced. Using the integrated graphics in the mini, I would only assume they would do the same in the macbook. If the graphics are a 'deal killer' for you now, then I doubt you were planning on buying one of the old ibooks either. I bought an ibook last year and it has the exact same low in ati chip that my last ibook had 3 years before! Everyone bad mouths the integrated graphics, but I have yet to have anyone actually prove how bad the graphics were when compaired to the ibook ati chips. Ibooks aren't meant for gamers, they're the lower end laptops.
As far as the black goes, Apple can take that and stick it where the sun aint shining. I like white =)
Actually what would be better is malware that gets "MS anti-malware" to identify itself as malware. Then it just removes itself. Or remove other stuff like windowsupdate.
This is typical Microsoft bandaid the problem. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but MS does this all over the place. Take the start menu. Any idiot in 95 could have seen that anyone who added more than 20 programs in that list would make things hard to find. Eventually Microsoft works around the problem by making the list scroll. Then they go to hideing stuff you don't use. Eventually they just stuffed the start menu for programs away with XP and give you the option of putting more programs up front. If they had given it 10 minutes worth of thought they would have come up with a simple heirarchy like KDE does. Same with the taskbar among many other problems Microsoft invents for itself because of lack of forthought.
Well with only the CPU fan it's just a matter of how much you want to tinker and spend vs how much noise you're willing to deal with. I think you could in theory eliminate the last fan and also go with passive cooling with a fancy no-fan cpu cooler, but I think you'd have to eliminate the case alltogether. In open air you may get enough heat dissipation provided your room is cool enough, but as I've never seen a hard drive as quiet as you require, you'd probably have to isolate that in some way.
Or you could run a special thin client linux/bsd box, use remote desktop to your "real PC" somewhere else. I've been trying to figure out if I could set the soekris net4801 this way with a PCI card, CF card for a hard drive - that actually would be totally silent.
Are you using the VIA or Nforce chipsets? The Nforce series has allowed you to undervolt for at least 3 years now. Where I work it isn't about noise, but more about reliability - quietness often comes as an added bonus. It's a bummer that the K8N2 series got phased out with socket A because I've had good experiences with them.
The absolute most CRITICLE thing when getting a mainboard is getting one without a fan. Those shitty 2 cent chinese peices of garbage often make way more noise then the rest of my machine combined! Right now I've standardized on the MSI Geforce 6150 Micro ATX. It has onboard video, but you can beef it up a bit with a PCI express card with no fan as well. Best quality CPU fans I've gotten are from arctic cooling - very quiet too. Add in a power supply with no fan and there isn't much to generate noise. SATA drive with fluid dynamic bearings helps. Right now this setup runs like $350 - but assuming a standard case with a standard PSU. A good case will also help, but that's something I don't discuss since I advocate rather expensive cases =)
Heh, sucks to be you Taco. I got a whole year before I'm an old fart at 30. Yep feelin pretty spry... 'sept for my back of course. Dammit, those kids are on my lawn again, I'll have to cut this short to go yell at them.
I was sort of elaborating, but yeah I tend to have a lot of sympathy for Fortran programmers having done some myself. However if you look at the limitation of what they were facing, they had the answer, just no practical way to do it. Parallel computing is a bit different however, because you have to change the way you program, there's just no way to get around that there's no definite answer.
I did threaded programming in college and it seems to be about the same today, and was the same as many years before it. Threading isn't getting easier because of the nature of the problem. I think WilliamSChips (post above) has an interesting point though. Maybe we're over-complicating things by our approach of the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if this eventually leads to a new programming model.
The early days of Fortran were before the 70's. Given the extremly tight ram constraints you'd probably have to implement a non-recursive iterative form which is FAR more complex. And this is Fortran we're talking about, not known for being the cutest language out there - and if we're referring to pre fortran66 then you're only branching construct is the 3way arithmatic IF statment. Now given that and considering your only method of debugging is taking a heap dump and looking through punch cards... I'd say yeah, it probably was too hard to implement.
It's pretty easy to say that your typical "oops I forgot a semicolon so I'll recompile" CS student with pretty much no ram constraints for the problem can do it as a homework project. Have him do the iterative form with nothing but if and goto, plus each mistake making him looking through a core dump and waiting until not only the problem is solved, but (s)he could schedule a time when they could try to run their program again? I think that's beyond most CS students.
I recall reading somewhere that you will be able to hook up a traditional controler to the Wii as well. I'm assuming it will be on par with the GC controller, but will need to be purchased as an extra obviously.
I was going to suggest that... but until dragonfly gets their package distribution replacement for ports in line I wouldn't recommend it. Pkgsrc just doesn't cut it for me.
6.0 has been very stable for me, and I now run it in production. To tell you the truth I never had much luck with 4x and it was usually a bitch for me to get running for some reason. I really liked the way 5.x did a lot of things but of course there were the stability issues.
6x is a good branch (so far so good anyway) and MUCH better than 5. Performance is okay, not as good as Linux in some scenarios but not bad either. On my Sokris 4801 (233Mhz pentium class) it seems rather slow, but Freebsd 4x on my 133Mhz Pentium seems to be about the same - so I'd say not a big difference. If you need the most out of older hardware that is already running 4x I'd probably stick with it.
Hopefully I'll be able to figure this new bridging scheme out and be able to better evaluate performance.
Nintendo keeping secrets seems to have worked this time (more or less). The PS3 controller will be more or less like the PS2 with a gyro. If THAT doesn't sound awkward to use, then I donno what is. Aside from that it's just a gyro that detects pitch, it does not track relative position. I don't see how just tilting a PS2 controller around is going to make a difference in sales. This is a last minute half assed hack and it shows.
When your core business is high end and you push products through lots of R&D then have your market sapped by commodity products, its easy to overstep your budget and not adjust the business quickly enough. Even worse of course if the people in charge don't see the train comming down the tracks for a long time, which is what often happens in bigger businesses. SGI is also in a more vulnerable position than say Sun because Sun can deploy a server that is expected to stay put (and need support) for many years - hell even SCO is hanging on this way! The graphics industry is constantly in the push of new and faster, so we're seeing a "Unix" company demise in accelerated time.
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I'm not sure about NetBSD, but in FreeBSD you can remove Sendmail entirely. Add "NO_SENDMAIL=true" to make.conf. During your next buildworld sendmail (and related stuff) will not be built. After installworld, do a search for old files - particularly /usr/libexec/sendmail I think is the location. Then install another MTA from ports if you need one.
A case is also important if you want a quiet computer. Getting cheap thin cases that reverberate fan vibration can make a computer much more noisy. Stupid front engine fan aside, the Aerocool has my attention. I've been saying for YEARS that instead of small cheap noisy small fans blowing super fast, they need to put a HUGE freaking fan on the side of the machine. The page says "250mm fans are the latest trend" which could be a quiet PC modders dream come true. I can only hope some of the more high end machines start incorperating this design. The Aerocool unfortunatly looks like it fits into the "cheap shit" category, so I doubt I'd waste my time on it.
Judging by the current overflow of prisons, jail isn't much of a deterrent either. The punishment should fit the crime. I think a fine would be the best option. If you REALLY want to punish them, then jack up the fine.
You seem to be confused. This is the government we're talking about, and you're talking about efficency :)
Fuck, don't tell him. He'll probably declare someone a terrorist and start it again!
Not just third world countries. I could see this being a good material for use in regular pole barns, and possibly replaceing corrugated metal in other cheap structures. If this stuff isn't as conductive of heat, it would be ideal for the arid US southwest.
I'll tell you what happened to Via; cheap shit that crashed all the time. I refuse to by ANYTHING with Via in it. Personal bias aside, VIA did actually get left behind in the cheap category where they used to dominate. As AMD started to push into the high performance market with more expensive CPUs, people opted for more expensive boards with them which left VIAs biggest market in AMD chipsets sort of out in the cold. VIA also has higher end stuff, but it was Nvidia chipsets that were first to really shine in the performance area. ATI then competes with Nvidia, and again VIA is sort of the odd ball.
... there is still software around that won't function properly if it's not run that way. ... maybe it will lessen the amount of crap software that's designed with the assumption that it's going to be run that way.
That sort of contradicts itself. Wheither MS runs as admin or not has absolutly nothing to do with third party developers requireing their software to do so? Is MS going to tell third party developers not to write registry keys in HKLM (for regular usage)? If developers do it NOW it's because they're freaking lazy or idiots, and that isn't going to change. One peice of software I was told by a vendor required Administrator privleges to run. Turns out it didn't, it just wrote temp files to %windir%/temp instead of a more logical place like whatever %temp% happened to be - stupidity like that has little to do with what MS dictates.
And as you say the legacy is going to be a big hold up anyway, so I doubt anyone will listen to MS telling people to not use old apps - especially if some of them are proprietary apps with no upgrade solutions.
It's also amazing that Sony still hasn't learned it's lesson. But there's a reason for that. This is a case of left hand vs right hand. The hardware engineers make various stuff, but continually have their hands tied behind their backs by the "content" people, or someone else at Sony with another agenda. Each time it is the hardware division that pays the price for everyone meddling in their affairs.
Sony is a company with a good hardware division that implement rather innovative products. I'm sure when they drew the PS3 up they said a Bluray player was fine but as it came to crunch time they wanted to dump it. Yet I'm willing to bet it's the 'content' people who wanted to force BluRay down everyones throat and forced them to put it in and jack the price up WAY too high. The content people are DEMANDING their DRM, and again this is going to fuck over the hardware division of Sony.
At this point the best thing this company could do is split. Cut out the cancer that is Sony records/film and let the hardware people make products that WORK without being crippled. Personally I feel this works to my benefit because with BluRay fighting HD-DVD it's likely that neither will win and DVD will stay; which is exactly the result I want. Go Sony!
Actually I'd like to know where they are going to get these PC's that are not made in China. And why stop at China anyway? Ban all foreign PCs (which isn't going to make much of a difference since they're all made in China anway). Oh, the U.S. doesn't make any anymore? Guess that's too bad for us. Most companies don't even bother hiding where it comes from. My iBook shipped directly from China to my address.
Exactly. I think the price is a bit outragous myself but keep in mind that Sony is going to release this for CHRISTMAS. Even if the fanboys don't get them all the holiday shoppers will. Sounds insane, but kids get insanely priced stuff these days. Even if they priced them at $1000 they'd probably still sell all the consoles available on release date.
There will be a lot of consoles floating around this holiday season. None of them will clearly be shown to pull ahead until around the middle of next year.
The mini has used almost the same components as the ibook since it was introduced. Using the integrated graphics in the mini, I would only assume they would do the same in the macbook. If the graphics are a 'deal killer' for you now, then I doubt you were planning on buying one of the old ibooks either. I bought an ibook last year and it has the exact same low in ati chip that my last ibook had 3 years before! Everyone bad mouths the integrated graphics, but I have yet to have anyone actually prove how bad the graphics were when compaired to the ibook ati chips. Ibooks aren't meant for gamers, they're the lower end laptops.
As far as the black goes, Apple can take that and stick it where the sun aint shining. I like white =)
Actually what would be better is malware that gets "MS anti-malware" to identify itself as malware. Then it just removes itself. Or remove other stuff like windowsupdate.
This is typical Microsoft bandaid the problem. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but MS does this all over the place. Take the start menu. Any idiot in 95 could have seen that anyone who added more than 20 programs in that list would make things hard to find. Eventually Microsoft works around the problem by making the list scroll. Then they go to hideing stuff you don't use. Eventually they just stuffed the start menu for programs away with XP and give you the option of putting more programs up front. If they had given it 10 minutes worth of thought they would have come up with a simple heirarchy like KDE does. Same with the taskbar among many other problems Microsoft invents for itself because of lack of forthought.
Well with only the CPU fan it's just a matter of how much you want to tinker and spend vs how much noise you're willing to deal with. I think you could in theory eliminate the last fan and also go with passive cooling with a fancy no-fan cpu cooler, but I think you'd have to eliminate the case alltogether. In open air you may get enough heat dissipation provided your room is cool enough, but as I've never seen a hard drive as quiet as you require, you'd probably have to isolate that in some way.
Or you could run a special thin client linux/bsd box, use remote desktop to your "real PC" somewhere else. I've been trying to figure out if I could set the soekris net4801 this way with a PCI card, CF card for a hard drive - that actually would be totally silent.
Are you using the VIA or Nforce chipsets? The Nforce series has allowed you to undervolt for at least 3 years now. Where I work it isn't about noise, but more about reliability - quietness often comes as an added bonus. It's a bummer that the K8N2 series got phased out with socket A because I've had good experiences with them.
The absolute most CRITICLE thing when getting a mainboard is getting one without a fan. Those shitty 2 cent chinese peices of garbage often make way more noise then the rest of my machine combined! Right now I've standardized on the MSI Geforce 6150 Micro ATX. It has onboard video, but you can beef it up a bit with a PCI express card with no fan as well. Best quality CPU fans I've gotten are from arctic cooling - very quiet too. Add in a power supply with no fan and there isn't much to generate noise. SATA drive with fluid dynamic bearings helps. Right now this setup runs like $350 - but assuming a standard case with a standard PSU. A good case will also help, but that's something I don't discuss since I advocate rather expensive cases =)
Heh, sucks to be you Taco. I got a whole year before I'm an old fart at 30. Yep feelin pretty spry... 'sept for my back of course. Dammit, those kids are on my lawn again, I'll have to cut this short to go yell at them.
I was sort of elaborating, but yeah I tend to have a lot of sympathy for Fortran programmers having done some myself. However if you look at the limitation of what they were facing, they had the answer, just no practical way to do it. Parallel computing is a bit different however, because you have to change the way you program, there's just no way to get around that there's no definite answer.
I did threaded programming in college and it seems to be about the same today, and was the same as many years before it. Threading isn't getting easier because of the nature of the problem. I think WilliamSChips (post above) has an interesting point though. Maybe we're over-complicating things by our approach of the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if this eventually leads to a new programming model.
This reminds me of the story..
The early days of Fortran were before the 70's. Given the extremly tight ram constraints you'd probably have to implement a non-recursive iterative form which is FAR more complex. And this is Fortran we're talking about, not known for being the cutest language out there - and if we're referring to pre fortran66 then you're only branching construct is the 3way arithmatic IF statment. Now given that and considering your only method of debugging is taking a heap dump and looking through punch cards... I'd say yeah, it probably was too hard to implement.
It's pretty easy to say that your typical "oops I forgot a semicolon so I'll recompile" CS student with pretty much no ram constraints for the problem can do it as a homework project. Have him do the iterative form with nothing but if and goto, plus each mistake making him looking through a core dump and waiting until not only the problem is solved, but (s)he could schedule a time when they could try to run their program again? I think that's beyond most CS students.
I recall reading somewhere that you will be able to hook up a traditional controler to the Wii as well. I'm assuming it will be on par with the GC controller, but will need to be purchased as an extra obviously.
I was going to suggest that... but until dragonfly gets their package distribution replacement for ports in line I wouldn't recommend it. Pkgsrc just doesn't cut it for me.
6.0 has been very stable for me, and I now run it in production. To tell you the truth I never had much luck with 4x and it was usually a bitch for me to get running for some reason. I really liked the way 5.x did a lot of things but of course there were the stability issues.
6x is a good branch (so far so good anyway) and MUCH better than 5. Performance is okay, not as good as Linux in some scenarios but not bad either. On my Sokris 4801 (233Mhz pentium class) it seems rather slow, but Freebsd 4x on my 133Mhz Pentium seems to be about the same - so I'd say not a big difference. If you need the most out of older hardware that is already running 4x I'd probably stick with it.
Hopefully I'll be able to figure this new bridging scheme out and be able to better evaluate performance.
Nintendo keeping secrets seems to have worked this time (more or less). The PS3 controller will be more or less like the PS2 with a gyro. If THAT doesn't sound awkward to use, then I donno what is. Aside from that it's just a gyro that detects pitch, it does not track relative position. I don't see how just tilting a PS2 controller around is going to make a difference in sales. This is a last minute half assed hack and it shows.
I wonder if dongles will come back?
Yeah, we're going to get a big one called a "computer monitor" =P
When your core business is high end and you push products through lots of R&D then have your market sapped by commodity products, its easy to overstep your budget and not adjust the business quickly enough. Even worse of course if the people in charge don't see the train comming down the tracks for a long time, which is what often happens in bigger businesses. SGI is also in a more vulnerable position than say Sun because Sun can deploy a server that is expected to stay put (and need support) for many years - hell even SCO is hanging on this way! The graphics industry is constantly in the push of new and faster, so we're seeing a "Unix" company demise in accelerated time.