That would have had a meaning, if GNOME was chosen based on technical merits
I strongly disagree.
Gnome was what "saved me" to be using WindowMaker or GNUStep until now.:-)
QT is nice, but KDE is, to my tastes - let's make it clear - just horrible. I would stick with Windows if I want a Windows look and feel, bullocks!
Gnome Desktop 2 was also sleek, eating few memory and processor cycles than KDE - what's a good thing when you have some VMs running (simulating the production environment while testing).
Of course Gnome Desktop 2 had it's flaws, but they're not so numerous (or critical) to make it unworthily.
What can be done to put Gnome back to his tracks? I recognize Gnome Desktop 2 had its flaws, but it's still the best environment I used on a development box to this day.
I'm not. Sadly, this is precisely what happens when non technicians do technical decisions on a tech Foundation.
Gnome Desktop 2 was one of the main reason I jumped ship from Windows and spend 2 excelent years developing on a Linux box. Almost everything just works, and the few that didn't, I managed to tweak it into production with little effort - I'm a tech guy, after all.
And then came Gnome Desktop 3. And I decided that the migration efforts would be better spent on MacOS X - that I'm using since that days. No regrets.
I think the time for a MATE Foundation has come.:-)
This is a screaming message to every Open Source Foundation around (yes, Mozilla, I'm talking to you): do what your users *NEED* you to do, not what your non techies "advisors" *want* you to do.
There's no space on a tech industry for "politically correct" tech solutions that doesn't cut it!
You can easily setup a cheap server or media center with tools you already knows, using a 2 or perhaps 4TB Hard disk and put the thing *INSIDE* the HD case.
One size doesn't fits all!
(and that 2GB RAM with dual core sounds yet more interesting)
I don't live in USA. I don't even speak English with naturality (as you probably had noticed). I can only search for information I already knows that exist.
For example, I would easily find a page stating Obama's opposition to gay marriage without realizing that he changed his position on the matter after. ShangaiBill probably saved me from a gafe, as I was going to repeat that (misguided) initial information on a public discussion on a local site.
yeah... this is kind of a typing tic I'm trying to overcome.
For some reason, I type the following "is" after the "what's" - curiously, it appears only after the "what's" - I don't do it after "where's", for example.
Thanks for pointing that. This can help to overcome that @#$%@%@$$ twitch.
Being Kay a Red Hat paid developer, perhaps it's not his entirely fault what's happening. But it's his name on the table, so it's his responsability nevertheless.
Seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I agree. Being that the reason I put that "perhaps" word in the phrase - didn't you noticed it?
Of course, the good that came out of this was Git, so I'd say Andrew Tridgell did the world a favor. Not sure how Linus feels about that incident now though.
This is a very good question to ask Linus on an interview, don't you think?
Remember that Obama was also opposed to gay marriage when Eich was.
Do you have some links to back your words? For us, that live outside USA, these facts are not easily verifiable - we lack the context you have while trying to separate what's is real news from what's is pure propaganda.
Kay - one more time: you caused the problem, you need to fix it. None of this "I can do whatever I want, others have to clean up after me" crap.
Being Kay a Red Hat paid developer, perhaps it's not his entirely fault what's happening. But it's his name on the table, so it's his responsability nevertheless.
Companies are run by humans. Most humans don't think that way. We have been conditioned by pop-culture and the media to believe that all corporations are evil. I think our perceptions are probably wrong.
Kickstarter is not an investment website, its a donation website. Not really sure how they got ripped off other than you don't like Facebook (me either!)
Yes and no. People does donate with something in mind. And they want this state of mind enforced.
You don't donate money to homeless if they're going to buy booze, do you? Most of us don't donate money to them even if we're sure they're going to buy food. Why?
With Kickstart it's the same thing. The guys can be right under the Law, but they have to face the public opinion about the matter. Kickstarters are feeling ripped off, and since they were the very simple reason Oculus managed to get a 2 Billion USD company, it's God Damned Good to spend a good fraction of this money trying to explain themselves - and perhaps, giving something interesting back to these guys.
Oculus served their purpose; there will be good competition now. I suppose the donors got their "money's worth" in that regard.
BULLSHIT
The kickstarters were ripped off. Simple like that.
They take the risks by using their money funding an idea. Now Facebook buys for themselves a successful product, and the kickstarters aren't getting any reward from that. Not a single one had agreed on a "Facebook Oculus".
90% of all hand multimeter's looks like the sketch in that damned trademark. Almost half of the multimeters I see on stores around here (Brazil) looks like a Fluke. Almost half of the multimeters I saw on sale when I was a teenager (hell way before 2000) looks like a Fluke device.
It's just the best design for the job.
Thank you, Fluke. Now I have one more reason to avoid north-american products (that use to be pretty good, but not so good it can't be replaced).,=
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That would have had a meaning, if GNOME was chosen based on technical merits
I strongly disagree.
Gnome was what "saved me" to be using WindowMaker or GNUStep until now. :-)
QT is nice, but KDE is, to my tastes - let's make it clear - just horrible. I would stick with Windows if I want a Windows look and feel, bullocks!
Gnome Desktop 2 was also sleek, eating few memory and processor cycles than KDE - what's a good thing when you have some VMs running (simulating the production environment while testing).
Of course Gnome Desktop 2 had it's flaws, but they're not so numerous (or critical) to make it unworthily.
My respects to you! :-)
What can be done to put Gnome back to his tracks? I recognize Gnome Desktop 2 had its flaws, but it's still the best environment I used on a development box to this day.
Because, mind you, they're ignoring the Earth's past.
Did you know that Antarctica was, once, a tropical island? And that almost all North America was, once, a huge iceland?
Guess what: the Antarctica freezing and N.A.'s defreezing was not ou fault, we didn't ever existed.
Earth as a LOT warmer in the past, and also a LOT colder.
Of course it's plausible that THIS TIME we're guilt, but one can't infer that looking *JUST* 500 years in the past.
I'm not. Sadly, this is precisely what happens when non technicians do technical decisions on a tech Foundation.
Gnome Desktop 2 was one of the main reason I jumped ship from Windows and spend 2 excelent years developing on a Linux box. Almost everything just works, and the few that didn't, I managed to tweak it into production with little effort - I'm a tech guy, after all.
And then came Gnome Desktop 3. And I decided that the migration efforts would be better spent on MacOS X - that I'm using since that days. No regrets.
I think the time for a MATE Foundation has come. :-)
This is a screaming message to every Open Source Foundation around (yes, Mozilla, I'm talking to you): do what your users *NEED* you to do, not what your non techies "advisors" *want* you to do.
There's no space on a tech industry for "politically correct" tech solutions that doesn't cut it!
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p...
Pay some respect to those who went before and the work they did.
I would gladly do that, if I managed to find them. Obviously, such people is not working for Gnome Foundation anymore.
I'm not.
Regardless of who is to "blame", nothing excuses Linus's childish behaviour. This could have been dealt with in a far more professional manner
Every single Linux user is a excuse for Linus's behaviour, being it childish or not.
I agree with you that working to Linus can be a harsh, very harsh way of earn your living. But yet, no one is forced to do so.
Are you pissed off with Linus? Walk away.
Don't condone Linus behaviour? Use FreeBSD on your box or IOS/WP on your phone.
Or fork the Kernel and do the job yourself. :-)
I don't see any evidence of him being a dick.
I see him saying this is not a bug and asking people to move the discussion elsewhere.
I suggest Redmond. I think he will be fine around there. :-)
1GB RAM, SATA interface and a 1.5GHz x64 core.
You can easily setup a cheap server or media center with tools you already knows, using a 2 or perhaps 4TB Hard disk and put the thing *INSIDE* the HD case.
One size doesn't fits all!
(and that 2GB RAM with dual core sounds yet more interesting)
Google is your friend.
But it's not a good teacher.
I don't live in USA. I don't even speak English with naturality (as you probably had noticed). I can only search for information I already knows that exist.
For example, I would easily find a page stating Obama's opposition to gay marriage without realizing that he changed his position on the matter after. ShangaiBill probably saved me from a gafe, as I was going to repeat that (misguided) initial information on a public discussion on a local site.
yeah... this is kind of a typing tic I'm trying to overcome.
For some reason, I type the following "is" after the "what's" - curiously, it appears only after the "what's" - I don't do it after "where's", for example.
Thanks for pointing that. This can help to overcome that @#$%@%@$$ twitch.
Being Kay a Red Hat paid developer, perhaps it's not his entirely fault what's happening. But it's his name on the table, so it's his responsability nevertheless.
Seriously, you have no idea what you are talking about.
I agree. Being that the reason I put that "perhaps" word in the phrase - didn't you noticed it?
Of course, the good that came out of this was Git, so I'd say Andrew Tridgell did the world a favor. Not sure how Linus feels about that incident now though.
This is a very good question to ask Linus on an interview, don't you think?
Remember that Obama was also opposed to gay marriage when Eich was.
Do you have some links to back your words? For us, that live outside USA, these facts are not easily verifiable - we lack the context you have while trying to separate what's is real news from what's is pure propaganda.
And this is good.
Quote from the Linus email:
Kay - one more time: you caused the problem, you need to fix it. None of this "I can do whatever I want, others have to clean up after me" crap.
Being Kay a Red Hat paid developer, perhaps it's not his entirely fault what's happening. But it's his name on the table, so it's his responsability nevertheless.
Companies are run by humans. Most humans don't think that way. We have been conditioned by pop-culture and the media to believe that all corporations are evil. I think our perceptions are probably wrong.
Unfortunately, thet aren't.
But you didn't get ripped off and thats not what happened.
Did the original kick starters get what they paid for? (Dev units I expect?) If so, how did they get ripped off?
It's not what they're saying.
But some others agrees with you, namelly Nicholas Negroponte.
Let's see what time has to say about it.
Kickstarter is not an investment website, its a donation website. Not really sure how they got ripped off other than you don't like Facebook (me either!)
Yes and no. People does donate with something in mind. And they want this state of mind enforced.
You don't donate money to homeless if they're going to buy booze, do you? Most of us don't donate money to them even if we're sure they're going to buy food. Why?
With Kickstart it's the same thing. The guys can be right under the Law, but they have to face the public opinion about the matter. Kickstarters are feeling ripped off, and since they were the very simple reason Oculus managed to get a 2 Billion USD company, it's God Damned Good to spend a good fraction of this money trying to explain themselves - and perhaps, giving something interesting back to these guys.
Bad P/R can be good just to politicians.
uh, the kickstarters didn't buy stock, they donated money. they got exactly what they payed for.
It's not what they're saying.
And exactly how much is the kickstarter's share on these fabulous USD 2 Billions?
Because, you know, was the kickstarter's money that funded the company until now. What's on this for them?
Oculus served their purpose; there will be good competition now. I suppose the donors got their "money's worth" in that regard.
BULLSHIT
The kickstarters were ripped off. Simple like that.
They take the risks by using their money funding an idea. Now Facebook buys for themselves a successful product, and the kickstarters aren't getting any reward from that. Not a single one had agreed on a "Facebook Oculus".
I don't think the problem is the "social", but the way Facebook does "social".
Why one would use Facebook (and pay him a share of his incoming) to allow his users to play his games?
Facebook just hasn't thrown enough money at him yet.
When they do...then we'll see.
The day Mr. Zuck decides to throw money in Minecraft, it will be the day that the present owner will not risk HIS money on Facebook.
Until there, I think Mr. Notch is right. Let Zuckerberg risk his own money on Facebook games.
Why not just shutdown the site? I would hurt less, and the results will be exactly the same.
Even if this could be ethic, what I seriously doubt, what about the side effects of being drug for so long time?
If this is the kind of justice we are pursuing, why not just killing the criminals? Cheaper.
I read the paper, I checked in the Fluke site.
90% of all hand multimeter's looks like the sketch in that damned trademark. Almost half of the multimeters I see on stores around here (Brazil) looks like a Fluke. Almost half of the multimeters I saw on sale when I was a teenager (hell way before 2000) looks like a Fluke device.
It's just the best design for the job.
Thank you, Fluke. Now I have one more reason to avoid north-american products (that use to be pretty good, but not so good it can't be replaced).,=