We're trying to figure out how to extort money without enraging the OSS/GPL/EFF/Linux masses - both personal and corporate
Let's not forget that small names like IBM and Oracle have a pretty significant state in Linux. This could go VERY badly for SCO if they push it. Quite honestly, the bad press they've recieved thus far is probably fairly damaging...
I was under the impression that while FreeBSD may not effectively utilize as MANY processors as Linux, it was more efficient with the ones it DID utilize.
i.e. BSD doesn't really work well with more than 4 processors, but it has more efficient utilization of the additional processors (~%83 I think) than would Linux (~%75 I think)
I wish I had a link to this doc, it was on another/. discussion a while back...
Bah! You're MISSING the bigger point. Now we'll no more free doubles, or extra booze in our drinks! No longer can I use my natural wit, charm and good looks to get free drinks!
I keep hearing that this is NOT just about DRM but for all applications. Really? What software vendor is going to implement any of the TPCA features EXCEPT for the media industry?
Is Oracle, BEA, IBM or any of the OSS projects going to do this? For what? What value is brought by wasting time and money implementing a strategy that has little or no benefit to the customer?
Bah, this is a scarcely concealed attempt to appease the media giants (the people who FUND RIAA). Lack of customer interest will likely cause this to fail.
Companies implement TPCA at cost $X
Customers don't want / use
Competitor undercuts companies implementing TPCA because they don't waste their $$$ on it
TPCA meets it appropriate fate
But what do I know? My company (who's in a "budget crunch") burns enough cash to single-handedly cause global warming, and we're profitable. Whatever, I'm going back to Oz where things make sense...
Commercial vendor support. Oracle, IBM, Sun, etc support Linux. BSD support is IMPROVING, but not near the support Linux recieves.
Let's face it, Linux IS easier. I use Slackware and so I'm in the configs (as opposed to wizards), but Linux still is easier for me. Do I just need to get off my @ss and learn BSD? Probably
Better java support in Linux. I know the "j" word is dirty around here. Even so...
This is going to sound TOTALLY dumb - Commercial vendor support. If my company can't buy support, the world will certianly end due to lack of it. Whatever...
That being said, I'm proposing FreeBSD for our web servers as a replacement for (are you ready for this?) Apache on Windows. The fall back is actually Linux/Apache, but I think from a security standpoint, BSD is probably the way to go.
It DOES mildly annoy me to see the original parent post. BSD folks seem usually mild-mannered towards others. But every now and then some jackass...
I wouldn't call it easy, but Denver has been it hard. Having 3+ years and knowing what the f*ck you're talking about in an interview does help out.
I point out the latter as I've interviewed a LOT of people and I've seen lots of great resumes with Java exp and owners of those resumes who look at you blankly when you ask any degree of difficult question...
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No, no, no. As you get going in Java you'll be the logic in it. As a novice programmer, it SHOULD take you a lot longer to use a tool like struts than use (whatever). You're still getting used to the syntax, flow and appropriate use of Java.
As you get going, there becomes a more elegant technique to using teh language. Tools like struts fill the need.
Learn what you can now and don't worry about it, the usefullness of struts will become evident as you progress.
No, I think they're just stupid people managing these things. Example:
To drive south on Grant past the captital you need to drive a brisk 55-60 mph (roughly 2X the legal limit) to BARELY hit the lights. You'll see lots of yellows, but you'll make it. I'm personally under no illusion that our city has the sophistication you describe. Just look at our mayor...
I agree with you. Look, all SPAM^h^h^h^h e-mail from Asia may NOT be SPAM, but we need some way to protect our networks from this flood of crap...
May I be rejecting legitimate e-mail if I block China.com? Absolutely. As a matter of fact I hope I do, I hope I block a whole bunch of them. Further, I'll tell them why.
"The network you're using sends an unacceptable amount of SPAM, there is a plethora of open relays and nothing is being done about it."
China.com admins may not give a rat's ass if I bitch and complain. But if their customer base goes ballistic because their service is unusable for this reason, then something may happen. The best solution? No, the best solution is to drag out and kill:
Spammers
Every idiot who's purchased herbal penis enlargement and HGH
What you mean like poor timing, waiting until you're 20 feet away and jumping to red with a.0003 second yellow cycle, being timed specifically so that unless you can get your car from 0 to warp 7 in 3 seconds you have no prayer of making the next light or randomly switching between normal and blinking operation?
Denver has that already! Bastards! They must have been testing out their diabolical schemes here!
Oh yeah, and before I get a load of mindless "I live in Denver and don't have..." responses, try driving around Uptown for a while. Let me know how that works out for 'ya
I think this sounds very good. Even if a spmmer were to multi-thread across open relays &| multiple IPs, the latency on the "RCTP TO:" would cause serious issues for these folks sending millions of e-mails a day.
Ironic, isn't it? It seems that something as simple as this will do more then micropayments, filtering, or some of the other ideas floating about.
BTW, your link didn't work, I did a search and found this: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-sp amf.html
The exec says and you believe it!. I don't believe this. He is simply lying.
And you shouldn't, I was being sarcastic. The exec may or may not be lying. This idiot may really believe he's doing a service! Otherwise, how does he look at himself in the morning and not see a complete leech on society?
BTW, I didn't know about that statement (to be added into prefs.js with Mozilla). I haven't had a pop-up though, so that's probably why I didn't notice... Thanks!
I think the parent was on the right track. The basis for most of the viable ideas is to raise the barrier of doing business for a spammer. Now how do we do that? So far, these lower life forms do business since they can do it VERY cheaply and can jump from provider to provider and in cases have used litigation to prevent them from being shut down and blocked by providers
So, as much as I loathe turning to gov't for solutions, here's what (I think) we need:
Make it illegal to falsify headers.
Make it explicity LEGAL to block IPs (spammers have gotten blocks removed through lawsuits, which they may have eventually lost, but which was expensive for the blocker)
Establish criteria for making claims based on damages from SPAM. This so that it doesn't take a major ISP (AOL) to go after a spammer for damage to their systems
The trick is to have laws which allow ISPs to protect themselves without making them so heavy handed as to hurt online commerce. The first and third mean that you have to say who you are and you'll get sued for doing damage (which is now legally defined). That may push spammers overseas, but then the second means you can block IPs without fear of legal retribution.
May that affect legit users? Maybe, but enough of an ISPs customers complain ("We can't send e-mail to the U.S.A./Europe/???! Why?") and they'll eventually do something about it. Which means they'll close their &*$% e-mail relays and kick off spammers. Perfect? No. I don't care about that as much as I care about reducing the background noise to what it was even a YEAR ago...
"The enormous success for Orbitz is directly related to these pop-unders," said Mark Rattin, creative director for Chicago-based Otherwise. "There's an enormous segment of the population that are appreciating these ads."
So you're not appreciating these ads? You're clearly in the minority. Further, Orbitz is dependent on these kinds of ads so it can stay in business. I hope you support business, what are you, some kind of communist?
The problem is that these companies (Orbitz, not the advertiser) don't get that people HATE that crap and they risk alienating their potential customer base. The advertisers are irrelevant since they are a lower life form to begin with and would sell their mother, wife AND daughter if they could make a buck.
From the statement of the advertising exec, people who don't like this form of advertising are in the minority, and possibly some kind of social deviant. We'll see an increase in this garbage until it becomes economically ineffective (lawsuits, customer non-response, ANYTHING). The other solution is technology, such as browsers that prevent this kind of thing (Mozilla, or my fav - Phoenix), that filter it out. I block unrequested pop-ups and won't install Flash.
I may sound heartless here, but when people bitch about these ads, I feel little sympathy. There are other browsers (and products in general) out there that actually are built to protect the user. Yet people won't try anything new. Those who act like sheep shouldn't be suprised when they're lead to slaughter
What are you talking about? Windows may need to read file info when the file is SELECTED, NOT when the directory is opened.
Further, you know an AWFUL lot re: windows for someone "Running Linux since '96", and then you BLAST people who criticize Windows, and you reply primarily insults and technical points of dubious validity, and...
WAIT A MINUTE! You're a - a - a Troll in penguin's clothing!. Nice touch though, I especially like the sig...
You beat me to it. I whole-heartedly agree with your point.
Another example is the latter signed by many "entertainers" urging President Bush to use diplomacy with Saddam. Diplomacy will work no better now than it has in the past. At some point we have to stand up.
There is a very hard and short limit to the effectiveness of pacifism...
Bah! USWorst, errr, I mean Qworst/Qwest pulled this same stunt trying assimilate people to MSN. They tried to make it look like if you get DSL from Qwest, you have to get MSN. You _could_ switch providers, but it wasn't evident.
I personally wussed out and am paying an extra $20/month for "corporate" access which means I still have my regular service and don't have to use that POS MSN. Customer response was so positive to their new service that Qwest has a link on the order page that allows you to use a non-MSN ISP.
If SBC is smart, they'll learn from Qwest. IMHO, the only thing worthwhile about Qwest was their DSL. These guys have managed to alienate their customers from one of their only decent services.
What I was told by the HP folks was different. They said that very little of the existing Intannium I will be evident in the new chip set. To what level of depth this meant, I don't know.
It was made to sound that the only real similarity will be in name. This says somethign drastic to me, I could be mistaken
You got me. This was told to me by HP/Compaq sales folks at a presentation. They're trying to get into the company where I work and we're talking about their migration plans. I'll look and see if I have any soft docs...
Itannium I is dead. Intel knows it, developers know it, there have been several stories on this - both business and tech. Support has nothing to do with it. Speed tests show it barely keeping up with (and sometimes not even) with existing 32-bit architectures. I think that's what the parent was saying. Now we go to Itannium II, which is about as close to Itannium I as Netscape 6 is to the latest Phoenix release.
The next chips out of Intel IA2 (or whatever) will be largely based on the Alpha chip from DEC-now-Compaq-now-HP. The Alpha is pretty good product victimized by absurdly stupid management/marketing/pick-what-you-like. So it's a worthy question. Why support a POS architecture when the successor, due out in another year (GA), is vastly different? It may be a lot of work that won't translate over well.
I don't think it's all that funny. So far RIAA has made the most blatant attempts against privacy and any kind of personal freedom on the net. They have attacked ISPs and driven through bills which support HUGE prison sentences for Copyright Infringement.
Then they tried to get permission to hack into personal computers looking for "unapproved" MP3s? These guys are dangerous. Period. No question about it...
We had a company in Denver who was pretty good as far as selection and price went, BUT they demanded your home address and phone number. If you refused a manager had to OK the sale. The manager then wanted to know you didn't want to give out this info and tried to convince you to cough it up.
All in all, it added 20 minutes for me. The store has great prices so we compromised. I gave them my ex-girlfriends phone number and home address.
I'm sure that spiced up dinner conversation when her husband finds my mail in his box!
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No. It's not silent, it's "white noise". You hear what sounds like a data CD being played through an audio CD player at low volume.
We're trying to figure out how to extort money without enraging the OSS/GPL/EFF/Linux masses - both personal and corporate
Let's not forget that small names like IBM and Oracle have a pretty significant state in Linux. This could go VERY badly for SCO if they push it. Quite honestly, the bad press they've recieved thus far is probably fairly damaging...
i.e. BSD doesn't really work well with more than 4 processors, but it has more efficient utilization of the additional processors (~%83 I think) than would Linux (~%75 I think)
I wish I had a link to this doc, it was on another /. discussion a while back...
Oh wait, uuuhh, nevermind...
Is Oracle, BEA, IBM or any of the OSS projects going to do this? For what? What value is brought by wasting time and money implementing a strategy that has little or no benefit to the customer?
Bah, this is a scarcely concealed attempt to appease the media giants (the people who FUND RIAA). Lack of customer interest will likely cause this to fail.
But what do I know? My company (who's in a "budget crunch") burns enough cash to single-handedly cause global warming, and we're profitable. Whatever, I'm going back to Oz where things make sense...
- SMP Support, FreeBSD is the ONLY one who has it
- Commercial vendor support. Oracle, IBM, Sun, etc support Linux. BSD support is IMPROVING, but not near the support Linux recieves.
- Let's face it, Linux IS easier. I use Slackware and so I'm in the configs (as opposed to wizards), but Linux still is easier for me. Do I just need to get off my @ss and learn BSD? Probably
- Better java support in Linux. I know the "j" word is dirty around here. Even so...
- This is going to sound TOTALLY dumb - Commercial vendor support. If my company can't buy support, the world will certianly end due to lack of it. Whatever...
That being said, I'm proposing FreeBSD for our web servers as a replacement for (are you ready for this?) Apache on Windows. The fall back is actually Linux/Apache, but I think from a security standpoint, BSD is probably the way to go.It DOES mildly annoy me to see the original parent post. BSD folks seem usually mild-mannered towards others. But every now and then some jackass...
Mmmm, kool-aid...
I point out the latter as I've interviewed a LOT of people and I've seen lots of great resumes with Java exp and owners of those resumes who look at you blankly when you ask any degree of difficult question...
As you get going, there becomes a more elegant technique to using teh language. Tools like struts fill the need.
Learn what you can now and don't worry about it, the usefullness of struts will become evident as you progress.
To drive south on Grant past the captital you need to drive a brisk 55-60 mph (roughly 2X the legal limit) to BARELY hit the lights. You'll see lots of yellows, but you'll make it. I'm personally under no illusion that our city has the sophistication you describe. Just look at our mayor...
May I be rejecting legitimate e-mail if I block China.com? Absolutely. As a matter of fact I hope I do, I hope I block a whole bunch of them. Further, I'll tell them why.
"The network you're using sends an unacceptable amount of SPAM, there is a plethora of open relays and nothing is being done about it."
China.com admins may not give a rat's ass if I bitch and complain. But if their customer base goes ballistic because their service is unusable for this reason, then something may happen. The best solution? No, the best solution is to drag out and kill:
- Spammers
- Every idiot who's purchased herbal penis enlargement and HGH
IMHODenver has that already! Bastards! They must have been testing out their diabolical schemes here!
Oh yeah, and before I get a load of mindless "I live in Denver and don't have..." responses, try driving around Uptown for a while. Let me know how that works out for 'ya
Ironic, isn't it? It seems that something as simple as this will do more then micropayments, filtering, or some of the other ideas floating about.
BTW, your link didn't work, I did a search and found this: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-sp amf.html
Is that the article?
And you shouldn't, I was being sarcastic. The exec may or may not be lying. This idiot may really believe he's doing a service! Otherwise, how does he look at himself in the morning and not see a complete leech on society?
BTW, I didn't know about that statement (to be added into prefs.js with Mozilla). I haven't had a pop-up though, so that's probably why I didn't notice... Thanks!
So, as much as I loathe turning to gov't for solutions, here's what (I think) we need:
- Make it illegal to falsify headers.
- Make it explicity LEGAL to block IPs (spammers have gotten blocks removed through lawsuits, which they may have eventually lost, but which was expensive for the blocker)
- Establish criteria for making claims based on damages from SPAM. This so that it doesn't take a major ISP (AOL) to go after a spammer for damage to their systems
The trick is to have laws which allow ISPs to protect themselves without making them so heavy handed as to hurt online commerce. The first and third mean that you have to say who you are and you'll get sued for doing damage (which is now legally defined). That may push spammers overseas, but then the second means you can block IPs without fear of legal retribution.May that affect legit users? Maybe, but enough of an ISPs customers complain ("We can't send e-mail to the U.S.A./Europe/???! Why?") and they'll eventually do something about it. Which means they'll close their &*$% e-mail relays and kick off spammers. Perfect? No. I don't care about that as much as I care about reducing the background noise to what it was even a YEAR ago...
"The enormous success for Orbitz is directly related to these pop-unders," said Mark Rattin, creative director for Chicago-based Otherwise. "There's an enormous segment of the population that are appreciating these ads."
So you're not appreciating these ads? You're clearly in the minority. Further, Orbitz is dependent on these kinds of ads so it can stay in business. I hope you support business, what are you, some kind of communist?
The problem is that these companies (Orbitz, not the advertiser) don't get that people HATE that crap and they risk alienating their potential customer base. The advertisers are irrelevant since they are a lower life form to begin with and would sell their mother, wife AND daughter if they could make a buck.
From the statement of the advertising exec, people who don't like this form of advertising are in the minority, and possibly some kind of social deviant. We'll see an increase in this garbage until it becomes economically ineffective (lawsuits, customer non-response, ANYTHING). The other solution is technology, such as browsers that prevent this kind of thing (Mozilla, or my fav - Phoenix), that filter it out. I block unrequested pop-ups and won't install Flash.
I may sound heartless here, but when people bitch about these ads, I feel little sympathy. There are other browsers (and products in general) out there that actually are built to protect the user. Yet people won't try anything new. Those who act like sheep shouldn't be suprised when they're lead to slaughter
Further, you know an AWFUL lot re: windows for someone "Running Linux since '96", and then you BLAST people who criticize Windows, and you reply primarily insults and technical points of dubious validity, and...
WAIT A MINUTE! You're a - a - a Troll in penguin's clothing!. Nice touch though, I especially like the sig...
Another example is the latter signed by many "entertainers" urging President Bush to use diplomacy with Saddam. Diplomacy will work no better now than it has in the past. At some point we have to stand up.
There is a very hard and short limit to the effectiveness of pacifism...
I personally wussed out and am paying an extra $20/month for "corporate" access which means I still have my regular service and don't have to use that POS MSN. Customer response was so positive to their new service that Qwest has a link on the order page that allows you to use a non-MSN ISP.
If SBC is smart, they'll learn from Qwest. IMHO, the only thing worthwhile about Qwest was their DSL. These guys have managed to alienate their customers from one of their only decent services.
It was made to sound that the only real similarity will be in name. This says somethign drastic to me, I could be mistaken
You got me. This was told to me by HP/Compaq sales folks at a presentation. They're trying to get into the company where I work and we're talking about their migration plans. I'll look and see if I have any soft docs...
The next chips out of Intel IA2 (or whatever) will be largely based on the Alpha chip from DEC-now-Compaq-now-HP. The Alpha is pretty good product victimized by absurdly stupid management/marketing/pick-what-you-like. So it's a worthy question. Why support a POS architecture when the successor, due out in another year (GA), is vastly different? It may be a lot of work that won't translate over well.
Then they tried to get permission to hack into personal computers looking for "unapproved" MP3s? These guys are dangerous. Period. No question about it...
Brilliant, but what else should I expect from another "The Tick" fan?
All in all, it added 20 minutes for me. The store has great prices so we compromised. I gave them my ex-girlfriends phone number and home address.
I'm sure that spiced up dinner conversation when her husband finds my mail in his box!