Ah yes. so transactions certainly don't belong in a database. Nor do constraints. And definately no sorting! Or reporting. We must remove all aggregation functions because that's logic and not data!
Please. There is always logic that applies to data specifically. If there wasn't, there would be no real reason to have a seperate database.
** Martin
this has been known about CWRU since every dorm room had 10Mb to the rooms back in the very early 90s and before. This is almost entirely due to the Cleveland Freenet/CWRUNet, which many might remember as the first and biggest internet accessible BBS that spawn a series of other Freenets, including Cincinnati and Detroit area ones.
There's not enough business in the software industry to support the existing industry, otherwise those who were in it before wouldn't be unemployed, and you propose another company?
the answer is obviously: previous art. . .
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Yes. All we Open Source people have to do is keep our innovations ahead of the people that will patent it. Then, if they try, we claim previous art and nullify the patent. Eventually patents become useless because everything is done in Open Source first!
I once heard a song by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie called Every OS Sucks, where Linux users were described as 'elitist nerdy shmucks'. Sadly this is true for much of the 'community'. Too many consider themselves better than the rest of the world because they run Linux. Can you believe that? It's just a computer operating system, but somehow they think that it makes them better than those people who run systems such as Microsoft Windows! Elitism drives people away, as does saying "RTFM" or belittling people who choose a different distro from yourself.
Now, he says this as one of his reasons for dumping Linux. I would have to say that those of us who put in the time and effort it takes to run Linux can't help but take an inflated view of ourselves. I mean, if it really is "just a computer operating system", then certainly he could and would still run it. No, it's more than that. It's a badge of honor, a sign of someone who is willing to put in some extra time and effort to work with something they love. Don't put us down for making an effort to learn how to use it.
That said, I do more than my share of helping users. I co-founded a LUG in my home town 5 years ago. I taught linux courses at a local training center. I've installed linux boxes at local non profits. Certainly, I understand that newbies need help. ..but, it's only right to help those who help themselves.
If someone asks us a question to which we can find an answer on google in 30 seconds, they clearly have not made an effort to help themselves. Linux gurus are not a linux help charity. If that's what you want, pay some to be there for you whenever you want it. . .
Next time you want to say that elitist Linux gurus are causing a problem, remember that in order to become a guru, we all had to start from scratch too. . .
Perhaps Microsoft believes that the public will consider them the final authority on viruses. After all, their programs, such as outlook and word, are very well known to be very effective transmitters of virii.
Java is possibly one of the best tools for teaching programming. Note that programming is radically different from "computer internals". That's the kind of stuff you should cover in other classes spanning much more time than one or two classes.
First off, I spent a lot of time in college working in the computer labs and helping other students debug programs. Some of the biggest problems these students had was with pointers. Java, of course, doesn't have them. This is ideal for learning how algorithms work. See, students shouldn't care about internal pointers and stuff. Debugging and run time errors in Java are great! By default, the JVM will tell you where your error is at run time.
But if I own dvd playing software I can download encrypted dvds and play them just as easily as decrypted ones! So there's nothing "easier" the only thing that changed is the state of the data.
Ok. Let's assume for a minute that the programs are not expressive and therefore A) not protected by the 1st amendment, and 2) not able to be copyrighted.
What effect would this have on the programs that are used by the industry to encrypt and decrypt the movies? Suddenly the programs are no longer under the protection of the DMCA, which means that it's perfectly legal to do things like reverse engineer them! Hey. ..neat. . .
. ..even worse, clearly the/. moderators haven't either. Otherwise, they wouldn't even bother wasting our time with such a stupid question. Oh wait, "rememeber children, there's not such thing as stupid answers, only stupid people"
The first lesson I believe you should offer is the concept of "right tool for the job".
For instance, when you have a database that's supposed to be receiving many inserts (as say, one that accepts lots of comments for posts or changes to user profiles) it's a very bad idea to use database software which does full table locks.
There's also a HUGE difference between "a quarter inch cubed" and the articles statement of "a quarter of a cubic inch". The robots are really about 1/2" by 1/2" by 1/2", and not 1/4" by 1/4" by 1/4". This is off by a factor of 8!
Search engines are different for one big reason. Any website can opt out by use of the robots.txt file. Just cuz no one knows about it or uses it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. register.com can't opt out of verio's robot.
no kidding. same here. what a great TV! the worst part is that you can actually see the mpeg artifacts on my direcTV and dvds! it's almost too good! If that's possible.
when you start a car you hear all sorts of grinding and clicking sounds as the starter engages, yet you don't think "i can't do this". If it's something you don't understand, ignore it. Surely it will be usefull for someone else.
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Ah yes. so transactions certainly don't belong in a database. Nor do constraints. And definately no sorting! Or reporting. We must remove all aggregation functions because that's logic and not data!
Please. There is always logic that applies to data specifically. If there wasn't, there would be no real reason to have a seperate database. ** Martin
No room here though, so read it here.
** Heller
this has been known about CWRU since every dorm room had 10Mb to the rooms back in the very early 90s and before. This is almost entirely due to the Cleveland Freenet/CWRUNet, which many might remember as the first and biggest internet accessible BBS that spawn a series of other Freenets, including Cincinnati and Detroit area ones.
There's not enough business in the software industry to support the existing industry, otherwise those who were in it before wouldn't be unemployed, and you propose another company?
Yes. All we Open Source people have to do is keep our innovations ahead of the people that will patent it. Then, if they try, we claim previous art and nullify the patent. Eventually patents become useless because everything is done in Open Source first!
** Heller
** Heller
gandalf. . .only. . .common. . .character?
holy crap you're stupid.
** Heller
I once heard a song by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie called Every OS Sucks, where Linux users were described as 'elitist nerdy shmucks'. Sadly this is true for much of the 'community'. Too many consider themselves better than the rest of the world because they run Linux. Can you believe that? It's just a computer operating system, but somehow they think that it makes them better than those people who run systems such as Microsoft Windows! Elitism drives people away, as does saying "RTFM" or belittling people who choose a different distro from yourself.
Now, he says this as one of his reasons for dumping Linux. I would have to say that those of us who put in the time and effort it takes to run Linux can't help but take an inflated view of ourselves. I mean, if it really is "just a computer operating system", then certainly he could and would still run it. No, it's more than that. It's a badge of honor, a sign of someone who is willing to put in some extra time and effort to work with something they love. Don't put us down for making an effort to learn how to use it.
That said, I do more than my share of helping users. I co-founded a LUG in my home town 5 years ago. I taught linux courses at a local training center. I've installed linux boxes at local non profits. Certainly, I understand that newbies need help. . .but, it's only right to help those who help themselves.
If someone asks us a question to which we can find an answer on google in 30 seconds, they clearly have not made an effort to help themselves. Linux gurus are not a linux help charity. If that's what you want, pay some to be there for you whenever you want it. . .
Next time you want to say that elitist Linux gurus are causing a problem, remember that in order to become a guru, we all had to start from scratch too. . .
** Martin
Perhaps Microsoft believes that the public will consider them the final authority on viruses. After all, their programs, such as outlook and word, are very well known to be very effective transmitters of virii.
** Martin
Java is possibly one of the best tools for teaching programming. Note that programming is radically different from "computer internals". That's the kind of stuff you should cover in other classes spanning much more time than one or two classes.
First off, I spent a lot of time in college working in the computer labs and helping other students debug programs. Some of the biggest problems these students had was with pointers. Java, of course, doesn't have them. This is ideal for learning how algorithms work. See, students shouldn't care about internal pointers and stuff. Debugging and run time errors in Java are great! By default, the JVM will tell you where your error is at run time.
** Martin
But if I own dvd playing software I can download encrypted dvds and play them just as easily as decrypted ones! So there's nothing "easier" the only thing that changed is the state of the data.
** Martin
Ok. Let's assume for a minute that the programs are not expressive and therefore A) not protected by the 1st amendment, and 2) not able to be copyrighted.
.neat. . .
What effect would this have on the programs that are used by the industry to encrypt and decrypt the movies? Suddenly the programs are no longer under the protection of the DMCA, which means that it's perfectly legal to do things like reverse engineer them! Hey. .
** Martin
Professor Peter Junger of the Case Western Reserve University Law School has already taken this point to court.
see: http://samsara.law.cwru.edu/
The US sixth Circuit court of appeals holds that as computers programs are indeed expressive and protected by the First Amendment.
** Martin
And you still feel like encryption is worth something? I thought the book did a fine job of pointing out the futility of using crypto.
** Martin
. . .even worse, clearly the /. moderators haven't either. Otherwise, they wouldn't even bother wasting our time with such a stupid question. Oh wait, "rememeber children, there's not such thing as stupid answers, only stupid people"
** Martin
The first lesson I believe you should offer is the concept of "right tool for the job".
For instance, when you have a database that's supposed to be receiving many inserts (as say, one that accepts lots of comments for posts or changes to user profiles) it's a very bad idea to use database software which does full table locks.
Right tool for the job.
** Martin
Dude. those are sun sparc versions. says so right in the top line. The size on linux systems are a completely different story.
sheesh
** Martin
. . that's only cuz once it's loaded there's no resources left for any other editor! ;->
** Martin
There's also a HUGE difference between "a quarter inch cubed" and the articles statement of "a quarter of a cubic inch". The robots are really about 1/2" by 1/2" by 1/2", and not 1/4" by 1/4" by 1/4". This is off by a factor of 8!
** Martin
OH GOD I HATE THIS STATEMENT!
Proving that lots of crimes are committed by drunks does *NOT* prove that lots of drunks commit crimes! PERIOD!
I mean hell: 100% of crimes are caused by humans. therefore, all humans are criminals. right?
** Martin
Search engines are different for one big reason. Any website can opt out by use of the robots.txt file. Just cuz no one knows about it or uses it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. register.com can't opt out of verio's robot.
** Martin
no kidding. same here. what a great TV! the worst part is that you can actually see the mpeg artifacts on my direcTV and dvds! it's almost too good! If that's possible.
** Martin
does this mean that the bread companies will be able to make toasters that will only toast their brand of bread?
.image what this can do to the sex toy industry!
Or, Ford garage door openners, the door only opens for a Ford?
Or Vidal Sassoon hair dryers. They'll only dry hair that's been washed with Vidal Sassoon hair?
Wow. .
** Martin
when you start a car you hear all sorts of grinding and clicking sounds as the starter engages, yet you don't think "i can't do this". If it's something you don't understand, ignore it. Surely it will be usefull for someone else.
** Martin
What about kwanzaa? that's in here somewhere, isn't it?
** Me