I for one DO NOT welcome my new trusted computing overlords.
I will not buy a computer that limits my fair use rights, not from Apple, not from Intel, not from Microsoft. I suppose soon I will be quarenteened off the Internet and forced to use only circa 2005 equipment. So be it.
OK You wear nano-pants.. Do they REALLY have itsy bitsy tiny robots in them to throw off stains? After all I thought that the whole idea was that the cloth had tiny hairs attached to it and that repelled liquids.
Or are these protesters just using the name "nano" as an excuse to protest?
Hey Protesters! If your gonna protest nanotechnology find som real grey goo making nanotech to protest.
Keep your old machine, perhaps uucp will return to favor when the rest of us find out the Internet won't let us on anymore (because we are not running a "trusted" OS)
Why be paid at all in that case, you go to your job, you get one computer a year, 10 sets of clothes, 20 sets of underware, A new car every 5 years, and 3 meals a day in the cafe.
you however get no cash.
So what if your clothes look like everyone else's. Your new card is a Yugo. Your computer is a 386 (2ghz 386)
And the 3 meals a day... Breakfast: gruel, Lunch: some random meat sandwich, chips and a pepsi (no coke!), Dinner: Hearty soup and rustic bread. Every day! yum.
There are differences in pay because there are differences in ability and effort. Pay is to reward thos who work harder or better.
Fair is: The person who works longer, or harder, or better gets more (and more stuff) than the person who does not.
One place I worked, we moved from one building to another. The part of the new building we were moving to was warehouse space before... One of the Project Lead/Lower Boss type people came up with a study that showed that programmers loose 15 minutes or more when interupted with a simple "Hi Bob" (or whatever the programmer's name is). -- We **all** got walled offices with doors. And control of our own lights (both on, both off, one on...) Many of us went for the "cave like" no lights on to glare on our screens.
(If you think you are a co-worker this was in Sunnyvale CA, near the "Big Blue Cube")
The other idea, If the Hijacker's goal is to blow up the plane, he dosn't need to bring anything on with him, All he has to do is act badly enough to trigger the "Hijacker Wins!" option
A previous post mentioned makeing the cockpit a separate place accessible only from the outside, this is a good idea except you will have to make communication only one way, or the hijacker can threaten the pilot. The only cabin to cockpit comm should be a light that says "somthing has happend bad enough to make an emergency landing at the nearest airport" The crew can trigger it if someone has a heart attack or something in flight.
Not that I 'like' the MPAA, and yes copyright violation is wrong... I wonder if the copyrights holders associations would have less of a problem with Peer to Peer networking if the source and destination of the files (and who placed the files in the p2p network in the first place) were clearly recorded.
After all, If you "only read Playboy for the articles", you should not object to getting a copy with all of the pictures removed.
If you want to protect BitTorrent and other kinds of P2P, Make them be responsible citizens.
Not only is there the disk space, and the speed, there is the actual reliability of the email system.
One place where I worked used CC:Mail in-house (yes this was years ago) and they never did the maintenance or deleted old email messages. They were told "It's just like a big file cabinet", After I started the mail servers would crash and take a full day and a night to repair, usually with some loss of email.
It was like pulling chicken teeth (ie very hard) politically to get management to go for weekly (on saturdays) maintenance to keep the post offices up during the week, and even harder to institute a 6 month deletion policy.
We Had to _sell_ the 6 month policy, then a 3 month policy, finally we got down to a 1 month deletion policy before we switched to Lotus Notes.
Email is a database, It needs to be maintained. Usually that includes pointer repair of some sort and empty space reclamation. Hopefully it also includes old message deletion.
(The Saturday thing wasn't bad, I usually got Mondays off so I still had a two day weekend, Tuesdays off if Monday was a holiday)
They don't have to, emails as normally sent and received would be the same as an email without a bond. If you are not in my white list, I don't see your email unless I go looking in the spam folder. All my friends and family would be in my whitelist.
(x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
Nope, see above.
(x) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
If I do business with you I'll put you in my whitelist. Besides who are these nebulous "many"?
(X) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
You don't pay anything if you are just mailing people who have you in their whitelist.
(x) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
I suppose faking a bond would be like counterfeiting a stamp, illegal.
(x) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
For me, even though I am on dialup, the problem is not electronic bandwidth. It's my bandwidth. I hate spending the time to even glance at these stupid \/ia.gra spams, You've won! a bogus lottery in spain, or 419 scams from Nigeria. Not to mention all the phishing expeditions.
(X) Blacklists suck (X) Whitelists suck
Tell me reasons. Just saying they suck proves nothing. I would spend the moment to train my whitelist. I a proper client it would just be a matter of visiting the spam bucket and clicking a button for each mail that is not spam.
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
(You didn't mark this one but I will comment anyway) Sure and all the other junk too. Just put your favorite internet pharmacy in you whitelist.
(x) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
These do, for each person who uses a spam-free client, there is one less target for spam, it all gets returned, or ignored.
(X) Sending email should be free
Why? It takes money to put the servers up, it takes electricity to run them, it takes people's time to get and filter through the junk. Why should a spammer be able to appropriate those resources? In the mean time, you can send email for free, even with the client, most of the people you send to will have you in their whitelist. And if not, and you are not spamming them with something annoying then you get you bond back.
(X) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
Client based. Not Server based.
(x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
Sorry dude, I think it WILL work, and even so, it's better than what we are doing now, nothing.
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I for one DO NOT welcome my new trusted computing overlords.
I will not buy a computer that limits my fair use rights, not from Apple, not from Intel, not from Microsoft. I suppose soon I will be quarenteened off the Internet and forced to use only circa 2005 equipment. So be it.
Perhaps his ice maker is out in the garage, so the garage is getting hotter, but the house is getting cooler..
Here is a link to neoOffice, Open office for OS X
http://www.neooffice.org/
No! No! Bolt them onto the heads of the friggin sharks!
I stand corrected I should have said
Grey goo capable nanotech
OK You wear nano-pants.. Do they REALLY have itsy bitsy tiny robots in them to throw off stains? After all I thought that the whole idea was that the cloth had tiny hairs attached to it and that repelled liquids.
Or are these protesters just using the name "nano" as an excuse to protest?
Hey Protesters! If your gonna protest nanotechnology find som real grey goo making nanotech to protest.
been playing with your Travesty generator too long?
Keep your old machine, perhaps uucp will return to favor when the rest of us find out the Internet won't let us on anymore (because we are not running a "trusted" OS)
Isn't "The Thing"(tm) about Linux that you get the source code and can change the source code if you like and re-compile?
Once you make changes and re-compile you executable is no longer signed.
You cant make Linux TCPA compliant and have it still be "linux"
Sure, you could google for your keys and it would tell you the last place it saw them...
"Your keys are at the safeway on Main street"
And live without the Internet. :^(
I don't think the space elevator is quite as ambitious as the tower of Babble, After all the space elevator only goes to orbit, not to Heaven.
Why be paid at all in that case, you go to your job, you get one computer a year, 10 sets of clothes, 20 sets of underware, A new car every 5 years, and 3 meals a day in the cafe.
you however get no cash.
So what if your clothes look like everyone else's. Your new card is a Yugo. Your computer is a 386 (2ghz 386)
And the 3 meals a day... Breakfast: gruel, Lunch: some random meat sandwich, chips and a pepsi (no coke!), Dinner: Hearty soup and rustic bread. Every day! yum.
There are differences in pay because there are differences in ability and effort. Pay is to reward thos who work harder or better.
Fair is: The person who works longer, or harder, or better gets more (and more stuff) than the person who does not.
One place I worked, we moved from one building to another. The part of the new building we were moving to was warehouse space before... One of the Project Lead/Lower Boss type people came up with a study that showed that programmers loose 15 minutes or more when interupted with a simple "Hi Bob" (or whatever the programmer's name is).
--
We **all** got walled offices with doors. And control of our own lights (both on, both off, one on...) Many of us went for the "cave like" no lights on to glare on our screens.
(If you think you are a co-worker this was in Sunnyvale CA, near the "Big Blue Cube")
The knock out gas is ok, if it works instantly.
The other idea, If the Hijacker's goal is to blow up the plane, he dosn't need to bring anything on with him, All he has to do is act badly enough to trigger the "Hijacker Wins!" option
A previous post mentioned makeing the cockpit a separate place accessible only from the outside, this is a good idea except you will have to make communication only one way, or the hijacker can threaten the pilot. The only cabin to cockpit comm should be a light that says "somthing has happend bad enough to make an emergency landing at the nearest airport" The crew can trigger it if someone has a heart attack or something in flight.
Each of us shoud create a file with 10,000 lines of "I told you this was an inocent file" and encrypt it an just keep it laying around our hard disk.
A simple command to fix this? try
"restore backup"
Is my desktop computer "protected"? or do I have to run something like Palledium before it's "protected"?
Indeed,
Perhaps the email-related product should change to
d-spam. According to the qoute above, that should
clear them with Hormel.
They might even be able to get away with "Dspam".
Not that I 'like' the MPAA, and yes copyright violation is wrong... I wonder if the copyrights holders associations would have less of a problem with Peer to Peer networking if the source and destination of the files (and who placed the files in the p2p network in the first place) were clearly recorded.
After all, If you "only read Playboy for the articles", you should not object to getting a copy with all of the pictures removed.
If you want to protect BitTorrent and other kinds of P2P, Make them be responsible citizens.
Not only is there the disk space, and the speed, there is the actual reliability of the email system.
One place where I worked used CC:Mail in-house (yes this was years ago) and they never did the maintenance or deleted old email messages. They were told "It's just like a big file cabinet", After I started the mail servers would crash and take a full day and a night to repair, usually with some loss of email.
It was like pulling chicken teeth (ie very hard) politically to get management to go for weekly (on saturdays) maintenance to keep the post offices up during the week, and even harder to institute a 6 month deletion policy.
We Had to _sell_ the 6 month policy, then a 3 month policy, finally we got down to a 1 month deletion policy before we switched to Lotus Notes.
Email is a database, It needs to be maintained. Usually that includes pointer repair of some sort and empty space reclamation. Hopefully it also includes old message deletion.
(The Saturday thing wasn't bad, I usually got Mondays off so I still had a two day weekend, Tuesdays off if Monday was a holiday)
It's due to the "Pircard Maneuver" being done.
(change of orbit + very slow camera)
Dosn't first sale apply to DVDs? With this I will have to sell my "Biometric Data" with the DVD if I ever sell it.
Ok, AC it's easy to just cut and paste a smart-a** answer, but let me answer each of your points.
Your post advocates a
(x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
True Enough.
(X) Users of email will not put up with it
They don't have to, emails as normally sent and received would be the same as an email without a bond. If you are not in my white list, I don't see your email unless I go looking in the spam folder. All my friends and family would
be in my whitelist.
(x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
Nope, see above.
(x) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
If I do business with you I'll put you in my whitelist. Besides who are these nebulous "many"?
(X) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
You don't pay anything if you are just mailing people who have you in their whitelist.
(x) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
I suppose faking a bond would be like counterfeiting a stamp, illegal.
(x) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
For me, even though I am on dialup, the problem is not electronic bandwidth. It's my bandwidth. I hate spending the time to even glance at these stupid
\/ia.gra spams, You've won! a bogus lottery in spain, or 419 scams from Nigeria. Not to mention all the phishing expeditions.
(X) Blacklists suck
(X) Whitelists suck
Tell me reasons. Just saying they suck proves nothing. I would spend the
moment to train my whitelist. I a proper client it would just be a matter
of visiting the spam bucket and clicking a button for each mail that is not
spam.
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
(You didn't mark this one but I will comment anyway) Sure and all the
other junk too. Just put your favorite internet pharmacy in you whitelist.
(x) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
These do, for each person who uses a spam-free client, there is one less target for spam, it all gets returned, or ignored.
(X) Sending email should be free
Why? It takes money to put the servers up, it takes electricity to run them,
it takes people's time to get and filter through the junk. Why should a spammer be able to appropriate those resources? In the mean time, you can send email for free, even with the client, most of the people you send to will have you in their whitelist. And if not, and you are not spamming them with something annoying then you get you bond back.
(X) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
Client based. Not Server based.
(x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
Sorry dude, I think it WILL work, and even so, it's better than what we are doing now, nothing.
It's like this Mr. CEO, the money, is paid by the sender BEFORE they send the email, it comes with the email. We don't have to find them at all.
Sure we can have someone filter the executive email, but we'd have to *read* it all, and we want the spam bond money.