I googled "Renminbi", all I got was links to currency fixing.
No, I can't say we'd miss monopoly money that someone else pretends is currency.
Who is this we you keep going on about? Have you forgotten to take your meds?
'You' might think such thoughts, buy that says more about 'you' than the people who know how the international economies work.
When there are no jobs to go off and do, it tends to eradicate the motivation for higher education.
Fortunately we already have real world examples to compare. The many examples of elite societies throughout history who do not need to work but choose to educate and entertain themselves make the claim a little shaky
As someone who doesn't need to work, I prefer this life to the alternative, and I think most others would too.
Like in the military, schools, medicine, roads, rail, fire brigade, garbage collection, national parks etc you mean?
Pretty much all western nations (incl the US) are socialist to some extent. This may not gel with your ideology, but all of these things are socialist.
Military yes, medicine no, roads maybe, rail (mostly) no, and I specifically mentioned garbage.
Honestly if you would have just read past the first sentence you quoted you would have saved yourself some embarrassment.
Ok you missed the point, but if that make you feel better fill your boots...
Unless human development is going to somehow change the pure unadulterated Greed that the 1% demands, the only thing the masses will transition to is Welfare 2.0 on a global scale.
You don't seem to be grasping the concept. The 1%, the greed, and most of the economics are based around a resource scarce model that has existed since time began. All the things you want, food, clothes, a house, toys, all require effort and time to acquire, hence a supply demand force creates greed. In a fully automated society, with free production of everything you need to live, there is no mechanism for greed to wield any power.
Costs will not decrease relative to a 20-hour workweek because of Greed, so don't think for a second you'll be afforded a living wage any better than the "gig" economy is providing.
Why would I need a wage in a fully automated society? If machines grow food, make clothes, build toys, what purpose is there for money?
If you want an example of how this might play out, play GTA5 and enable god mode. Once you have unlimited stuff that costs zero to produce, everyone ends up with everything they want or need. Money no longer serves any purpose. Greedy people have the same power as everyone else because there is no scarcity to the things that everyone needs.
Currently the death rate is already largely random
No it isn't. There is some random elements, but it you're familiar with crash statistics, you'll know that once you take out the common factors such as alcohol, drugs, mobile phone use, fatigue, bad weather, speeding, faulty vehicle, health issues etc, the chances of death on the road drop dramatically.
In 2015 over 35,000 people died in auto accidents and that's doesn't include those that are maimed, some never to walk again. I think autonomous vehicles could bring that number way down.
The difference with robot cars is that the lower number will be purely random.
I'm not sure that sits well with many people.
Of course you can drive stoned. It will impair your reaction time a bit, but to be fair... It's probably still better than most older drivers can manage.
This is the cold hard truth the authorities will never admit. The eligibility for driving should be purely based on merit and that's it. If you can pass the test stoned, drunk or asleep then it's still a pass. If you don't like that then make the test tougher.
These countries (nor the ones GP listed) aren't socialist. Socialism is when the government owns the means of production.
Like in the military, schools, medicine, roads, rail, fire brigade, garbage collection, national parks etc you mean?
Pretty much all western nations (incl the US) are socialist to some extent. This may not gel with your ideology, but all of these things are socialist.
...see this as exactly what it is: an opportunity for businesses to return to a model where they make greater profits and don't have any obligations to their workers beyond today.
This is backwards thinking. I've been a contractor for years, an employer is not my mother. I get paid to do a job then when it's done I find another job. I think you'll find technology is allowing work to shift back to a needs based model, rather than filling the office floor with dead weight who only turn up for their benefits.
The idea of a permanent job is outdated, the world is moving onwards and upwards and those that adapt quickest will do the best out of it.
The "gig" economy is a bullshit attempt to glamorize and hide the real issue, which is a population outpacing the availability stable employment that provides necessary benefits.
That's one way to look at it.
Another way is that automation will make lots of things cheaper and more widely available, so people won't need to work 40hours a week just to eat and put a roof over their head. The 'gig economy' could just a small bump during the transition to what could be the next great epoch in human development.
The flub that Trump appeared to make was describing an incident that happened "last night", when what he appeared to want to describe was an incident that was covered in a show he watched last night. That's similar to Obama's flub, as far as I can see.
I could give you that if it was a one off, or rare flub, like most people make. We're all human after all. But Trump has only been in office one month and already made more errors than Obama did in 8 years. Even GWB, the most flubbingest POTUS ever probably never made as many in his 8 years.
A key skill of a leader is to communicate and bring as many people on the journey as possible. Trump is an absolute failure at this on all levels. His only experience at this level has been as a owner of a private business, which is closer to a dictatorship. As an owner you can be a jerk and and lie through your teeth and employees just have to suck it up. Democracies don't work the same way.
And none of those cyclists are affected by what happens in the tournament. Whereas in gaming, cheaters are playing in your matches which directly impacts you.
I can only assume you know nothing about any sports ever. Go down to any sports field, court, track on any weekend and you will find millions of people who have paid for the privilege of competing. Further up the chain some of those people get a small reward for their efforts, and right at the top a small few get paid a lot. But at all levels, in all types of events, people cheat. This is nothing new just because the chosen 'sport' takes place on a computer.
The US economy doesn't quiver the slightest without your euros, rand, pesos, or whatever.
Renminbi? You might want to Google it.
Protectionism doesn't work. We know that. If you want to live in your little bubble and believe the Emperor does in fact have a fine new coat, then fill your boots.
What makes you think the Trump friendly media like Breitbart and Fox would not spin any such statement into foreign leaders threatening USA?
Who cares. The few million red neck Americans who follow that shit are a lost cause, but the 7 billion other people in the world who don't listen to trash alt-right American media will understand the difference.
It's trespassing, it's harassment, it's denial of service, but it is not theft. This is basically the copyright infringement vs. theft argument all over again.
No it isn't. I said it was illegal, which it is. You brought up the theft thing just now to somehow discredit my argument, but it has nothing to do with me.
You are speaking for yourself. Many people enjoy the technology, and the person driving the car is merely there because it it unavoidable, not because it is a core part of the spectacle. F1 fans are not all Nascar fans.
And you are speaking for yourself. We don't have to guess about this, robots already exist, how many people turn up to watch them race today?
I'm not American so car racing to me and everyone I know is Touring Cars and F1. F1 is attractive because there's cool rock star guy getting paid millions of dollars to risk their lives traveling the word racing cars, party, and fuck beautiful women. Take all that away and it'll be exactly like a Linux convention. Good luck getting TV coverage of that.
Well, in gaming the people giving you money are directly impacted. In cycling the riders are not giving the money rather taking it.
Um, cyclists all around the world pay money for bikes, clothes, accessories, competition entry etc. The few pros at the top get freebies and win cash, but the bottom 99.9% pay to play. It is exactly the same concept
I see a lot of people assert that, but I wonder how many of them are racing fans.
I've been to a few races in my time, the danger element is the the most attractive part. No danger means no interest.
Personally I'd rather see robots - the race could be a lot more aggressive with nobody's life on the line.
Just load up demo mode on Gran Turismo and fill your boots. People respond to the emotional connection, the idea that person could die at any moment. No-one really gives a fuck about cars driving around in circles.
Although I don't play CS:GO, I have heard it has a major cheating problem. The worst part about this is that it doesn't only occur on random online servers, this occurs at major tournaments with prize pools of thousands.
As the hacker mentions, Valve makes some major cash from CS:GO, being one of their most popular games. They should be doing a lot more to prevent it.
Using an exploit to highlight the exploit and lack of support, is not exactly the same as robbing a bank.
Yes it is. If I figure out that a certain sequence of events gets me into the vault and out again with as much money as I like, then I can choose to notify the bank, or publish it in the interest of customers. Those are the ethical and legal options. I have no right then to rob then bank if because they ignored me. It is still illegal regardless of how cool you think it is.
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I googled "Renminbi", all I got was links to currency fixing.
No, I can't say we'd miss monopoly money that someone else pretends is currency.
Who is this we you keep going on about? Have you forgotten to take your meds?
'You' might think such thoughts, buy that says more about 'you' than the people who know how the international economies work.
When there are no jobs to go off and do, it tends to eradicate the motivation for higher education.
Fortunately we already have real world examples to compare. The many examples of elite societies throughout history who do not need to work but choose to educate and entertain themselves make the claim a little shaky
As someone who doesn't need to work, I prefer this life to the alternative, and I think most others would too.
Like in the military, schools, medicine, roads, rail, fire brigade, garbage collection, national parks etc you mean? Pretty much all western nations (incl the US) are socialist to some extent. This may not gel with your ideology, but all of these things are socialist.
Military yes, medicine no, roads maybe, rail (mostly) no, and I specifically mentioned garbage.
Honestly if you would have just read past the first sentence you quoted you would have saved yourself some embarrassment.
Ok you missed the point, but if that make you feel better fill your boots...
Unless human development is going to somehow change the pure unadulterated Greed that the 1% demands, the only thing the masses will transition to is Welfare 2.0 on a global scale.
You don't seem to be grasping the concept. The 1%, the greed, and most of the economics are based around a resource scarce model that has existed since time began. All the things you want, food, clothes, a house, toys, all require effort and time to acquire, hence a supply demand force creates greed. In a fully automated society, with free production of everything you need to live, there is no mechanism for greed to wield any power.
Costs will not decrease relative to a 20-hour workweek because of Greed, so don't think for a second you'll be afforded a living wage any better than the "gig" economy is providing.
Why would I need a wage in a fully automated society? If machines grow food, make clothes, build toys, what purpose is there for money?
If you want an example of how this might play out, play GTA5 and enable god mode. Once you have unlimited stuff that costs zero to produce, everyone ends up with everything they want or need. Money no longer serves any purpose. Greedy people have the same power as everyone else because there is no scarcity to the things that everyone needs.
Currently the death rate is already largely random
No it isn't. There is some random elements, but it you're familiar with crash statistics, you'll know that once you take out the common factors such as alcohol, drugs, mobile phone use, fatigue, bad weather, speeding, faulty vehicle, health issues etc, the chances of death on the road drop dramatically.
In 2015 over 35,000 people died in auto accidents and that's doesn't include those that are maimed, some never to walk again. I think autonomous vehicles could bring that number way down.
The difference with robot cars is that the lower number will be purely random.
I'm not sure that sits well with many people.
Of course you can drive stoned. It will impair your reaction time a bit, but to be fair... It's probably still better than most older drivers can manage.
This is the cold hard truth the authorities will never admit. The eligibility for driving should be purely based on merit and that's it. If you can pass the test stoned, drunk or asleep then it's still a pass. If you don't like that then make the test tougher.
These countries (nor the ones GP listed) aren't socialist. Socialism is when the government owns the means of production.
Like in the military, schools, medicine, roads, rail, fire brigade, garbage collection, national parks etc you mean?
Pretty much all western nations (incl the US) are socialist to some extent. This may not gel with your ideology, but all of these things are socialist.
...see this as exactly what it is: an opportunity for businesses to return to a model where they make greater profits and don't have any obligations to their workers beyond today.
This is backwards thinking. I've been a contractor for years, an employer is not my mother. I get paid to do a job then when it's done I find another job. I think you'll find technology is allowing work to shift back to a needs based model, rather than filling the office floor with dead weight who only turn up for their benefits.
The idea of a permanent job is outdated, the world is moving onwards and upwards and those that adapt quickest will do the best out of it.
The "gig" economy is a bullshit attempt to glamorize and hide the real issue, which is a population outpacing the availability stable employment that provides necessary benefits.
That's one way to look at it.
Another way is that automation will make lots of things cheaper and more widely available, so people won't need to work 40hours a week just to eat and put a roof over their head. The 'gig economy' could just a small bump during the transition to what could be the next great epoch in human development.
The flub that Trump appeared to make was describing an incident that happened "last night", when what he appeared to want to describe was an incident that was covered in a show he watched last night. That's similar to Obama's flub, as far as I can see.
I could give you that if it was a one off, or rare flub, like most people make. We're all human after all. But Trump has only been in office one month and already made more errors than Obama did in 8 years. Even GWB, the most flubbingest POTUS ever probably never made as many in his 8 years.
A key skill of a leader is to communicate and bring as many people on the journey as possible. Trump is an absolute failure at this on all levels. His only experience at this level has been as a owner of a private business, which is closer to a dictatorship. As an owner you can be a jerk and and lie through your teeth and employees just have to suck it up. Democracies don't work the same way.
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And none of those cyclists are affected by what happens in the tournament. Whereas in gaming, cheaters are playing in your matches which directly impacts you.
I can only assume you know nothing about any sports ever. Go down to any sports field, court, track on any weekend and you will find millions of people who have paid for the privilege of competing. Further up the chain some of those people get a small reward for their efforts, and right at the top a small few get paid a lot. But at all levels, in all types of events, people cheat. This is nothing new just because the chosen 'sport' takes place on a computer.
What do you think "rob" means?
What do you think illegal means?
The US economy doesn't quiver the slightest without your euros, rand, pesos, or whatever.
Renminbi? You might want to Google it.
Protectionism doesn't work. We know that. If you want to live in your little bubble and believe the Emperor does in fact have a fine new coat, then fill your boots.
What makes you think the Trump friendly media like Breitbart and Fox would not spin any such statement into foreign leaders threatening USA?
Who cares. The few million red neck Americans who follow that shit are a lost cause, but the 7 billion other people in the world who don't listen to trash alt-right American media will understand the difference.
It's trespassing, it's harassment, it's denial of service, but it is not theft. This is basically the copyright infringement vs. theft argument all over again.
No it isn't. I said it was illegal, which it is. You brought up the theft thing just now to somehow discredit my argument, but it has nothing to do with me.
I agree. It's more like
"Hey your house is unlocked, so we decided to have a party - sorry you can't use it now."
Which is equally illegal...
You are speaking for yourself. Many people enjoy the technology, and the person driving the car is merely there because it it unavoidable, not because it is a core part of the spectacle. F1 fans are not all Nascar fans.
And you are speaking for yourself. We don't have to guess about this, robots already exist, how many people turn up to watch them race today?
I'm not American so car racing to me and everyone I know is Touring Cars and F1. F1 is attractive because there's cool rock star guy getting paid millions of dollars to risk their lives traveling the word racing cars, party, and fuck beautiful women. Take all that away and it'll be exactly like a Linux convention. Good luck getting TV coverage of that.
Well, in gaming the people giving you money are directly impacted. In cycling the riders are not giving the money rather taking it.
Um, cyclists all around the world pay money for bikes, clothes, accessories, competition entry etc. The few pros at the top get freebies and win cash, but the bottom 99.9% pay to play. It is exactly the same concept
I see a lot of people assert that, but I wonder how many of them are racing fans.
I've been to a few races in my time, the danger element is the the most attractive part. No danger means no interest.
Personally I'd rather see robots - the race could be a lot more aggressive with nobody's life on the line.
Just load up demo mode on Gran Turismo and fill your boots. People respond to the emotional connection, the idea that person could die at any moment. No-one really gives a fuck about cars driving around in circles.
No, the worst part about this is that there are professional tournaments with prizes ranging in the thousands and millions for a computer game.
Games of skill played for cash prizes are a surprise to you? Have you just woken from a coma out of the 19th century?
Although I don't play CS:GO, I have heard it has a major cheating problem. The worst part about this is that it doesn't only occur on random online servers, this occurs at major tournaments with prize pools of thousands.
As the hacker mentions, Valve makes some major cash from CS:GO, being one of their most popular games. They should be doing a lot more to prevent it.
So how is this different from say cycling?
Using an exploit to highlight the exploit and lack of support, is not exactly the same as robbing a bank.
Yes it is. If I figure out that a certain sequence of events gets me into the vault and out again with as much money as I like, then I can choose to notify the bank, or publish it in the interest of customers. Those are the ethical and legal options. I have no right then to rob then bank if because they ignored me. It is still illegal regardless of how cool you think it is.
As an American, I can say honestly: we're perfectly fine that you go somewhere else.
Sweet, less money for you. But I bet that won't stop you complaining like a bitch when you can't figure out why your economy ends up in the toilet...
The screaming / crying liberals are driving nail after nail into the coffin of their own regressive movement. Keep it up!
I'm not liberal, but don't let facts get in the way of your rant...