Prove it. "news" corporations are not acceptable as sources.
You clearly don't understand how logic works, and this is a requirement for a rational discussion.
No, you don't. I have seen and read what he has said. It's not what the Media is saying.
I've already said it has nothing to do with "the media" (do you notice how it's always some vague undefined enemy with these dictator types?) Yet you continue with this talking point as if saying it enough times will make it true.
He has them, I don't see yours that would qualify you to speak as an authority to what amounts to a 'successful' fortune.
Well let's use an independent benchmark, the stock market. Had Donald Trump simply invested the monetary gifts and inheritance from his dad across the stock market in a standard index fund, he would have more money than he house now. That means his managing of his gifted wealth has resulted in a worse net outcome than if he simply did nothing.
None of this is relevant to the actual discussion that he is a jerk though. Being rich, or the president does not and should not make you immune to accountability.
This has been true starting with Kennedy's successor.
I don't recall any other leader throwing their own citizens (government, judges, military, media etc) under the bus while simultaneously praising a foreign enemy government. That behaviour is bordering on treason.
All joking aside, the media has portrayed him as such.
This is the standard defence, and it's what Trump wants you to believe. But I, nor most others are relying in the media, we have a pretty clear picture based purely on the words out of his own mouth.
You don't amass billions or get elected to the highest office in the world despite running against one of the most expensive campaigns in history and WIN by accident.
Never said it was. And I'm struggling to see how this is relevant to the discussion..
If you believe everything the media feeds you you're not as smart as you think you are.
See above. You really need to stop blindly regurgitating the official talking points if you are interested in an actual discussion.
Have you ever seen/used Oracle ERP? SAP is wonderful compared to Oracle.
I was at a place that rolled out a new Web application on Oracle. It looked like it was written in the 70's. The fonts were terrible, the forms and field data didn't line up, it didn't scale for different screen sizes, the menus made no sense and the search never found anything useful. And this was only few years ago for a public company with millions of customers. Fair enough if this was your teenage kid's first go an app and he did it for free, but these solutions cost millions of dollars, I simply don't get how it can be done so wrong.
The best answer is always ECONOMIC. Stay away from the USA and travel elsewhere. If they notice a huge decline in tourism and the associated revenue they will be forced to rethink TRUMP and his policies.
Already doing this. We planned a trip there a couple of years ago but decided the authoritarian entry requirements were not something I can support with a conscience. So we went to Europe and spent our money there instead. I have friends planning a trip to the US later this year and invited us but declined for the same reasons. We're going to Indonesia instead, where despite having an autocratic pro-Muslim government, it is still more open than the US.
Worth noting this isn't a Trump thing. It started with Bush, and was continued by Obama and now Trump too.
As soon as the customs officer sees your phone is set to factory defaults, he's going to want you to log into your accounts. That's no different from providing the password for your device.
What accounts?
I have about 10 different accounts already that I use for different purposes, configuring a reset phone with one that has no useful info in it is straight forward.
Yeesh, calm down will ya. Just be cause I don't want to visit your country due to the protracted, draconian and at times even humiliating process I'd have to subject myself to in order to get a Visa, that does not mean that I hate Americans.
This is an important point which is often overlooked in diplomatic relations. When you hear leaders speak, they'll say Russia this, or America that, or Japan this or China that etc, but what they really mean is the current administration, not the country or its people. If I was the boss of my country I'd come out and say we love Americans, the people are great, the countryside is great, it's just the current head of state is a fuckwit with so we choose not to engage for the next 4 years. We look forward to dealing with the American people again whe they choose a competent leader. Regards.
This would prevent this from using it as a wedge to boost patriotic support, because the attack is purely on the person only, and not the country.
But Hillary "The Hildabeast" Clinton can run a private email server distributing classified information. She can funnel favors and access for "donations" (e.g. Bribes/Payoffs!) to the Clinton Foundation. The liberals can be as CORRUPT as they want to be but OMG! let anyone else do something similar and it's the worst thing in the world.
Er, Hillary wasn't allowed to do those things either, as demonstrated by the numerous investigations into her behaviour.
And even if Hillary was actually Satan, it's not a strong position to say the current president should be able to do whatever he likes because satan is worse.
Take off your political googles, Trump's behaviour as POTUS is not acceptable. Just as we demand better behaviour from Bush and Obama, we should also expect something better from the current office holder.
Wouldn't you want to know if his personal phone was compromised and he was carrying it around all over the place?
I don't know why you bother arguing with AC's who are most likely paid political commentators. If you read any story about Trump anywhere, there is always an army of comments all using the same childish language. In here they are all AC's and follow the same pattern. Slashdot editors need to crack down on this, and us logged-in users need more discipline in not biting.
There are so many other proven alternatives that are built better and has a UI that was not built by raving lunatics...
Hah, I've never understood the SAP value proposition, maybe the backend is good, but UI is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. I just don't get how it is possible for a top tier company to get it so wrong.
I have talked to dozens of SAP customers, and I always ask them "Are you happy that you decided to go with SAP?". So far, this is that number that have answered affirmatively: 0.
I'm not claiming to be an expert in this area, but having been a bit player in some large projects involving the likes of SAP, Oracle, IBM, Deloitte, KPMG etc I've never understood where the value in these big dollar solutions. An example is an Oracle project looking to cost >$10million for a suite of products and solutions I could get from newer, smaller, more dynamic vendors for half the price.
Good luck getting that through the heads of the libertarians who will stand in the way of building out the initial automation that would free us.
I'm not sure you understand what the word libertarian means. The clue is in the title, libertarians believe in liberty for all, the freedom to do what you want, including building robots, if you so choose. The likely voice of dissent against automation will be conservatives, who seem to support whatever it is that keeps existing big business in power. They prefer centralised power and control, which automation is going to dismantle.
I sincerely believe that future historians will consider this a second Dark Age dominated by economic power, just one with much better tech toys than the first one dominated by religious authority. Just because the masters profess a different doctrine and the priesthood wears tailored suits instead of collars doesn't make it much different, in the end.
We can't read the future, but the general pattern is that society improves over time. So it follows that future generations will look back at us with some disdain.
Popular opinion might think things were better in 'the good old days', but the data says otherwise, and so this will continue.
I really do believe that if these UFOs really are alien spacecraft, it's no mystery they don't openly land. They'd monitor our telecommunications and observe us, and they would all agree on one thing: "They're clearly not ready - all they care about is controlling each other. How primitive they are."
The idea that an advanced species would have to get within a few hundred metres of the earth's surface to monitor it is completely absurd. Also being advanced they would already be very familiar with animal behaviour so can't imagine anything would be a surprise. Nothing humans do is any different to any other species, just like a lab rat, if the intellectual gap is too great then we would serve no purpose to another species other than to experiment on.
I know some people like to think humans are somehow different, or special in the universe, but in the grand scheme on things all life is the same, doing whatever we have to to survive.
Don't tax it, own it. Humans8 should invest in robot companies and live off the revenue thereof.
If you take automation to the logical conclusion, there is no need for ownership or tax. These things only exist under a resource scarce environment. You only need money to pay for things, but automation could free us of this, since full automation means every step of the process from material creation/extraction to end product or service costs nothing. The robots make themselves and service themselves, so there is no cost to anything. If there is no cost, then everything is free, therefore accessible to all. The age of real, ubiquitous freedom is upon us.
The only thing that is inevitable is prophets of doom every time a technology article is released.
Had you explained life in 2017 to someone from 1840, it would be unbelievable. And a person from 1840 might not be able to live in 2017 successfully doesn't mean that there aren't still billions of humans doing just that today.
So to analyse the prophet of doom a bit further, what you really mean is, a person with a brought up in 2017 would probably find life in 2087 a gap too far to bridge. But that doesn't mean humans in 2087 won't find whatever world they're living in as normal (and likely enjoying a higher standard of living)
You are severely underestimating what modern face recognition algorithms can do.
I can't speak for the GP, but face recognition should only be able to be called face recognition when it works like nature. ie Humans can recognise a familiar face under all sorts of weird circumstances. But 'modern' facial recognition algorithms still only work under specific circumstances and then only sometimes. How many times has a friend or family member come up to you to say hello and you've responded, "I'm sorry I do not regonise you, please try again?
We have these AI conversations in here all the time, and how impressive it is, but it's only impressive from technology development point of view (ie it's come a long way in only a few years). From a compete-with-nature point of view it, it is still absolute crap.
China is really leading the way here, on track for near 100% EV bus sales by 2020.
That doesn't sound right. I've been to China, a large chunk of it is still poor farmers who can't afford brand new electric buses. Much of the countryside is filled with those old shitbox minibuses that drive hundreds of kms each journey. Sure there may be some penetration in the urban city market, but it would be a long way form 100% of all buses in China.
Yeah, King County Metro buying a bunch of electric busses doesn't "indicate there's a shift", since Metro has been running a significant number of electric busses for decades.
Are they the same types of buses though? From reading the comments, the old buses required connectivity to an overhead electrical rail fed off the grid, whereas TFA is about battery power. If that is the case then it is in fact a massive shift, a tipping point in fact where a battery fed EV is now more economical and practical than diesel (installing overhead wires are not practical in most cities). Economically it means we could see a rapid decline in diesel powered city buses within just a few years.
I ride with everyone from poor moms with 2 kids in strollers and homeless folks to guys in 3 piece suits with $500 pairs of shoes. In between are everyone else from high school kids to college kids, and the breadth of the middle and upper-middle class workforce.
Generally I've found the people who complain most about public transport are the ones brought up in towns/suburbs designed around the car, and hence the public transport options do suck. I lived in Singapore for a couple of years and hardly anyone owns a car because there is no point. Public transport is faster, cleaner, safer, cheaper and more reliable than any other option. And it is the only transport option that scales in larger denser population centres.
Why would a bus driver need to return to the same bus after eating lunch?
I'm pretty sure there aren't hundreds of empty buses sitting around waiting for all the drivers who've just finished their lunch.
And if you are assuming rotating shifts, I can only assume you haven't really thought out the demand pattern for bus activity and driver shifts.
As stated, the most logistically simple option if for a bus and driver to be taken out of circulation during a break.
Which doesn't necessarily mean the bus has to take a break too. Another driver could take over.
Could. But the logistics of having a network of substitute drivers all over the city to take over just for everyone else's lunch break, then having to return it back it the original driver, is a lot harder to solve than just taking the bus out of circulation for 30-60mins.
What tactic is that, quoting your own words back to you?
...the issue isn't how many people I switched over, But it is however, that the people I swittched over had the shitz of Windows and now have almost zero issues with Linux Mint. You appear to be incapable of understanding that,
Oh dear cognitive dissident, it is you that seems to have missed the point, which is generally how cognitive dissonance plays out. You are so tied up defending your religion you failed to see the science
... and have become wrapped around the axle of numbers
Not numbers fool, use cases. You struggle to understand why people use Windows at the same time as failing to grasp the concept of different types of use cases. I even tried to spell it out and you still missed it.
It matters not, no amount of angry Linux fanboys will change the fact that Windows is more popular on the desktop because it is better at the fitting the requirements of most users most of the time.
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Prove it. "news" corporations are not acceptable as sources.
You clearly don't understand how logic works, and this is a requirement for a rational discussion.
No, you don't. I have seen and read what he has said. It's not what the Media is saying.
I've already said it has nothing to do with "the media" (do you notice how it's always some vague undefined enemy with these dictator types?) Yet you continue with this talking point as if saying it enough times will make it true.
A few tweets do not justify the vitriol that's been projected towards our President. Any intelligent individual can see this and you know it.
No true Scotsman eh. You're going to have to try harder than that.
I am saying you cannot argue with results.
He has them, I don't see yours that would qualify you to speak as an authority to what amounts to a 'successful' fortune.
Well let's use an independent benchmark, the stock market. Had Donald Trump simply invested the monetary gifts and inheritance from his dad across the stock market in a standard index fund, he would have more money than he house now. That means his managing of his gifted wealth has resulted in a worse net outcome than if he simply did nothing.
None of this is relevant to the actual discussion that he is a jerk though. Being rich, or the president does not and should not make you immune to accountability.
This has been true starting with Kennedy's successor.
I don't recall any other leader throwing their own citizens (government, judges, military, media etc) under the bus while simultaneously praising a foreign enemy government. That behaviour is bordering on treason.
All joking aside, the media has portrayed him as such.
This is the standard defence, and it's what Trump wants you to believe. But I, nor most others are relying in the media, we have a pretty clear picture based purely on the words out of his own mouth.
You don't amass billions or get elected to the highest office in the world despite running against one of the most expensive campaigns in history and WIN by accident.
Never said it was. And I'm struggling to see how this is relevant to the discussion..
If you believe everything the media feeds you you're not as smart as you think you are.
See above. You really need to stop blindly regurgitating the official talking points if you are interested in an actual discussion.
Have you ever seen/used Oracle ERP? SAP is wonderful compared to Oracle.
I was at a place that rolled out a new Web application on Oracle. It looked like it was written in the 70's. The fonts were terrible, the forms and field data didn't line up, it didn't scale for different screen sizes, the menus made no sense and the search never found anything useful. And this was only few years ago for a public company with millions of customers. Fair enough if this was your teenage kid's first go an app and he did it for free, but these solutions cost millions of dollars, I simply don't get how it can be done so wrong.
The best answer is always ECONOMIC. Stay away from the USA and travel elsewhere. If they notice a huge decline in tourism and the associated revenue they will be forced to rethink TRUMP and his policies.
Already doing this. We planned a trip there a couple of years ago but decided the authoritarian entry requirements were not something I can support with a conscience. So we went to Europe and spent our money there instead. I have friends planning a trip to the US later this year and invited us but declined for the same reasons. We're going to Indonesia instead, where despite having an autocratic pro-Muslim government, it is still more open than the US.
Worth noting this isn't a Trump thing. It started with Bush, and was continued by Obama and now Trump too.
As soon as the customs officer sees your phone is set to factory defaults, he's going to want you to log into your accounts. That's no different from providing the password for your device.
What accounts?
I have about 10 different accounts already that I use for different purposes, configuring a reset phone with one that has no useful info in it is straight forward.
Or your 'phone' might simply send out 200,000 volts of power through the connection frying boarder patrol's expensive equipment.
Sounds like a good plot for a thriller spy movie...
And it's all possible.
And all easily preventable. Or do you think the smart people that create such machines haven't thought about that?
Yeesh, calm down will ya. Just be cause I don't want to visit your country due to the protracted, draconian and at times even humiliating process I'd have to subject myself to in order to get a Visa, that does not mean that I hate Americans.
This is an important point which is often overlooked in diplomatic relations. When you hear leaders speak, they'll say Russia this, or America that, or Japan this or China that etc, but what they really mean is the current administration, not the country or its people. If I was the boss of my country I'd come out and say we love Americans, the people are great, the countryside is great, it's just the current head of state is a fuckwit with so we choose not to engage for the next 4 years. We look forward to dealing with the American people again whe they choose a competent leader. Regards.
This would prevent this from using it as a wedge to boost patriotic support, because the attack is purely on the person only, and not the country.
But Hillary "The Hildabeast" Clinton can run a private email server distributing classified information. She can funnel favors and access for "donations" (e.g. Bribes/Payoffs!) to the Clinton Foundation. The liberals can be as CORRUPT as they want to be but OMG! let anyone else do something similar and it's the worst thing in the world.
Er, Hillary wasn't allowed to do those things either, as demonstrated by the numerous investigations into her behaviour.
And even if Hillary was actually Satan, it's not a strong position to say the current president should be able to do whatever he likes because satan is worse.
Take off your political googles, Trump's behaviour as POTUS is not acceptable. Just as we demand better behaviour from Bush and Obama, we should also expect something better from the current office holder.
Wouldn't you want to know if his personal phone was compromised and he was carrying it around all over the place?
I don't know why you bother arguing with AC's who are most likely paid political commentators. If you read any story about Trump anywhere, there is always an army of comments all using the same childish language. In here they are all AC's and follow the same pattern. Slashdot editors need to crack down on this, and us logged-in users need more discipline in not biting.
There are so many other proven alternatives that are built better and has a UI that was not built by raving lunatics...
Hah, I've never understood the SAP value proposition, maybe the backend is good, but UI is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. I just don't get how it is possible for a top tier company to get it so wrong.
I have talked to dozens of SAP customers, and I always ask them "Are you happy that you decided to go with SAP?". So far, this is that number that have answered affirmatively: 0.
I'm not claiming to be an expert in this area, but having been a bit player in some large projects involving the likes of SAP, Oracle, IBM, Deloitte, KPMG etc I've never understood where the value in these big dollar solutions. An example is an Oracle project looking to cost >$10million for a suite of products and solutions I could get from newer, smaller, more dynamic vendors for half the price.
Good luck getting that through the heads of the libertarians who will stand in the way of building out the initial automation that would free us.
I'm not sure you understand what the word libertarian means. The clue is in the title, libertarians believe in liberty for all, the freedom to do what you want, including building robots, if you so choose. The likely voice of dissent against automation will be conservatives, who seem to support whatever it is that keeps existing big business in power. They prefer centralised power and control, which automation is going to dismantle.
I sincerely believe that future historians will consider this a second Dark Age dominated by economic power, just one with much better tech toys than the first one dominated by religious authority. Just because the masters profess a different doctrine and the priesthood wears tailored suits instead of collars doesn't make it much different, in the end.
We can't read the future, but the general pattern is that society improves over time. So it follows that future generations will look back at us with some disdain.
Popular opinion might think things were better in 'the good old days', but the data says otherwise, and so this will continue.
I really do believe that if these UFOs really are alien spacecraft, it's no mystery they don't openly land. They'd monitor our telecommunications and observe us, and they would all agree on one thing: "They're clearly not ready - all they care about is controlling each other. How primitive they are."
The idea that an advanced species would have to get within a few hundred metres of the earth's surface to monitor it is completely absurd. Also being advanced they would already be very familiar with animal behaviour so can't imagine anything would be a surprise. Nothing humans do is any different to any other species, just like a lab rat, if the intellectual gap is too great then we would serve no purpose to another species other than to experiment on.
I know some people like to think humans are somehow different, or special in the universe, but in the grand scheme on things all life is the same, doing whatever we have to to survive.
Don't tax it, own it. Humans8 should invest in robot companies and live off the revenue thereof.
If you take automation to the logical conclusion, there is no need for ownership or tax. These things only exist under a resource scarce environment. You only need money to pay for things, but automation could free us of this, since full automation means every step of the process from material creation/extraction to end product or service costs nothing. The robots make themselves and service themselves, so there is no cost to anything. If there is no cost, then everything is free, therefore accessible to all. The age of real, ubiquitous freedom is upon us.
only death is left for humans in the inevitable.
The only thing that is inevitable is prophets of doom every time a technology article is released.
Had you explained life in 2017 to someone from 1840, it would be unbelievable. And a person from 1840 might not be able to live in 2017 successfully doesn't mean that there aren't still billions of humans doing just that today. So to analyse the prophet of doom a bit further, what you really mean is, a person with a brought up in 2017 would probably find life in 2087 a gap too far to bridge. But that doesn't mean humans in 2087 won't find whatever world they're living in as normal (and likely enjoying a higher standard of living)
You are severely underestimating what modern face recognition algorithms can do.
I can't speak for the GP, but face recognition should only be able to be called face recognition when it works like nature. ie Humans can recognise a familiar face under all sorts of weird circumstances. But 'modern' facial recognition algorithms still only work under specific circumstances and then only sometimes. How many times has a friend or family member come up to you to say hello and you've responded, "I'm sorry I do not regonise you, please try again?
We have these AI conversations in here all the time, and how impressive it is, but it's only impressive from technology development point of view (ie it's come a long way in only a few years). From a compete-with-nature point of view it, it is still absolute crap.
China is really leading the way here, on track for near 100% EV bus sales by 2020.
That doesn't sound right. I've been to China, a large chunk of it is still poor farmers who can't afford brand new electric buses. Much of the countryside is filled with those old shitbox minibuses that drive hundreds of kms each journey. Sure there may be some penetration in the urban city market, but it would be a long way form 100% of all buses in China.
Yeah, King County Metro buying a bunch of electric busses doesn't "indicate there's a shift", since Metro has been running a significant number of electric busses for decades.
Are they the same types of buses though? From reading the comments, the old buses required connectivity to an overhead electrical rail fed off the grid, whereas TFA is about battery power. If that is the case then it is in fact a massive shift, a tipping point in fact where a battery fed EV is now more economical and practical than diesel (installing overhead wires are not practical in most cities). Economically it means we could see a rapid decline in diesel powered city buses within just a few years.
I ride with everyone from poor moms with 2 kids in strollers and homeless folks to guys in 3 piece suits with $500 pairs of shoes. In between are everyone else from high school kids to college kids, and the breadth of the middle and upper-middle class workforce.
Generally I've found the people who complain most about public transport are the ones brought up in towns/suburbs designed around the car, and hence the public transport options do suck. I lived in Singapore for a couple of years and hardly anyone owns a car because there is no point. Public transport is faster, cleaner, safer, cheaper and more reliable than any other option. And it is the only transport option that scales in larger denser population centres.
Why would a bus driver need to return to the same bus after eating lunch?
I'm pretty sure there aren't hundreds of empty buses sitting around waiting for all the drivers who've just finished their lunch.
And if you are assuming rotating shifts, I can only assume you haven't really thought out the demand pattern for bus activity and driver shifts.
As stated, the most logistically simple option if for a bus and driver to be taken out of circulation during a break.
Is it okay to call a vegan chowing down on a steak "not a real vegan?"
Sure. Now if you can explain what the qualification is to be a "true" right wing conservative then you might not sound so stupid...
Which doesn't necessarily mean the bus has to take a break too. Another driver could take over.
Could. But the logistics of having a network of substitute drivers all over the city to take over just for everyone else's lunch break, then having to return it back it the original driver, is a lot harder to solve than just taking the bus out of circulation for 30-60mins.
And if you use this argument tactic,
What tactic is that, quoting your own words back to you?
Oh dear cognitive dissident, it is you that seems to have missed the point, which is generally how cognitive dissonance plays out. You are so tied up defending your religion you failed to see the science
... and have become wrapped around the axle of numbers
Not numbers fool, use cases. You struggle to understand why people use Windows at the same time as failing to grasp the concept of different types of use cases. I even tried to spell it out and you still missed it.
It matters not, no amount of angry Linux fanboys will change the fact that Windows is more popular on the desktop because it is better at the fitting the requirements of most users most of the time.