Same exact thing happened during the most recent stock market and real estate bubbles.
Is this the same stock market and real estate market that are at records highs right now? I'm not sure your definition of bubble is being correctly applied...
The very same characteristics are displayed by bitcoin. The most important one is increasing artificial scarcity fuelled by late comers
When is late and when is early? I find BTC is still in the expert/enthusiast stage of market penetration. If it goes truly mainstream, as in my mum wants to buy some, then we'll know we're approaching the peak. Based on this benchmark then we're not even halfway up the hype curve.
When cryptocurrency ultimately gains traction, it'll be because some major institution or government decides to implement it on scale.
You mean like how major banks already use Blockchain for inter-bank transactions? And Govts are already working Blockchain for identity?
People on the outside see cryptocurrency as one part hobby, one part religion, one part social experiment, one part speculation, and one part black market. Frankly, they're right--and they're right not to touch it with a ten-foot pole.
By people you mean people who don't understand how technology works. Because for people in the Fintech sector this stuff is the future. BTC might or might not be overvalued, but I can assure you that Blockchain type technology is here for a while.
China isn't a person. Even if the Chinese govt cracked down the value would drop temporarily until others took up the slack (there's queues of non Chinese residents lining up for cloud mining services not in China)
Given my fuzzing audits on several exchanges - you're better off with a bank.
Ever heard of a wallet? Based on the other gibberish you wrote probably not...
I was hoping there would be one of the many many "this bubble will go forever because it's totally not a bubble!" folk in here. Thank you for not disappointing.:)
You quoted something that no-one said to make yourself feel better. Is it a bubble? Maybe maybe not, only time will tell. We're still hearing how real estate is a bubble 20 years on. Some clowns are still bitching about fiat currency being a bubble. Bring back the Gold Standard!
BTC could last 5 more minutes, 5 months or 50 years who's to say? I can't but what I have seen is that the technology is sound, and there is limited supply and increasing demand. If BTC does reach $70k what will your position be then?
If it takes three or four trips to the store to carry a week's worth of groceries with the scooter, which the car could have carried in one trip, then that means several times the emissions.
In that one example of which there are literally thousands you haven't mentioned.
Not every trip will be like that, of course, but it's common enough
The most common journey is commuting to and from work. If every person driving to work rode a modern scooter CO2 would be halved overnight and congestion would disappear.
Not claiming this is practical, just making the point.
and later discover that you need the car, any gains you might have otherwise made are more than offset by the extra trip to switch vehicles.
What? I have a car and a bike. 99% of my journeys are on the bike, the small time I need to take more than one passenger, or pickup big things then I take the car. There is no going back to get the car, I know what I'm doing before I leave home.
That isn't even considering the safety factor, or the risk of inclement weather. Better, IMHO, to have a single reasonably efficient (30+ MPG) enclosed passenger+cargo vehicle that can handle 99% of all trips.
And contributes to most pollution, congestion and accidents. Again I'm not claiming scooters are for everyone, but most of the traffic/pollution/parking issues would disappear overnight if people could get past the FUD.
You'll be happy to know the GP was wrong. Scooters are far worse than cars per commuter mile too.
Depends on the car and scooter and what you define as pollution doesn't it?
I know my bike uses less fuel, less road space, causes less damage to the road so requires less maintenance and things it hits if I crash suffer less damage needing less repair etc etc I don't know if this means less net pollution but I'd be cautious about throwing around such claims without some numbers. I found this as a starter: https://rideapart.com/articles...
Not sure why this is rated funny, it should be informative.
Expected behaviour is a thing. I noticed something just today as I was driving, a woman and child ran quickly across a busy street with a trajectory straight in front of my fast moving car. I saw them, they saw me and I knew that their intention was to stop on the small median island between lanes so carried on at full speed. The event resulted as expected, they stopped on the island, I kept going uninterrupted.
With AI how does it know they intend to stop? A robot car relying on sensors would have to assume they are gone to continue running in front of the car and act to avoid collision. Multiply this by millions of such events everyday and you end up with completely unexpected behaviour everywhere.
I can't see how this can work without being really slow and annoying for robot car passengers because exactly that, the algorithms are mostly incompatible.
Whether you agree with what he says or not, that takes a lot of balls and is to be respected. He doesn't spout conservative bullshit either, contrary to popular lore.
I respect that he says what he thinks, it's refreshing to cut through the shit for once. But I don't respect that he lies blatantly about pretty much everything, and has a pattern of stabbing his associates in the back as soon as they disagree with him. We should be embracing those who ask questions, not shun them. That is straight from the establishment playbook.
This behaviour never ends well. Has there ever been a case where an egotistic, narcissistic liar has succeeded at public office?
Wouldn't this strengthen the population that carries the viruses by eliminating the weaker carries, i.e. breeding out the weak and re-enforcing the stronger ones? I'm not a biologist or geneticist
Only if they survive. For millions of already extinct species this didn't happen, so don't bet the house on 'life always finds a way' bullshit.
Quote: "And, since the treatment they receive sterilizes them,..."
Are you sure? I mean, are you SCIENTIFICALLY sure about that point?
I'm not sure, but what I am confident of is that the scientists who do this work for a living know more about it than you or I. And even if they go off half-cocked there are layers and layers of scrutiny and regulations to pull them up.
So yeah, the place to ask these questions is not here.
We've learned a lot about pest control, and have gone far beyond early and clumsy efforts. While so many Slashdotters are still stuck in the 1960's Andromeda Strain world, we've been using these highly focused controls for many years. might as well rail on about vaccines.
Oh man, I thoroughly enjoyed that post. Good work!
I'm still kicking myself for not buying Bitcoins when I first heard about them right here on Slashdot.
Aren't we all. After much cynicism I bit the bullet earlier this year and have already made a couple of grand. A mate which jumped in least year is up a couple of hundred grand. Oh the benefits of hindsight...
The objective is to repeat the lie more often than it is repudiated. For many people, hearing something said frequently by multiple sources is how they judge whether it's true or not, and then they tack on a value judgement of the sources based on their affiliation.
Well to be fair that technique does actually work. The human brain is flawed, but part of being a developed, mature adult is to learn what those flaws are and try and protect yourself from them. eg In the above example the appropriate action to to remove yourself from the constant bombardment of messages that are designed to corrupt your thought processes.
So while I think Trump is completely unfit to hold public office, quite possibly the most incompetent and immature leader in generations, his message of fake news is an important one. But it would carry more weight if if didn't associate himself with the fakiest of fake news organisations and publicly shun independent research and intelligent data in favour of fake news as his source of truth.
Sorry I didn't see what the concrete promises were vs the vague promises? What are the US proposing that is better/worse/more concrete/less vague than others?
Still don't understand the difference in mission or capabilities between helicopters and STOVL stealth jets junior?
Oh right, so after all that now you want to come back and play with the big kids?
If you want to back the original topic at hand, then answer the original question. Why do you think a STOVL Jet is useful today? Because they need them doesn't qualify an answer.
The fake news was them reporting about the koi pool.
Are you replying to the right thread? My response was to the claim that no-one who rejected the Paris accord was advocating that AGW is false. I sourced a quote that says otherwise directly from the man himself. No news fake or real is involved.
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Fuel, road space, and maintenance have nothing to do with pollution.
Um ok. So fuel use creates no pollution? Building and maintaining roads creates zero pollution?
On all metrics a car is better than a scooter, ranging from a bit better (CO2 emissions),
I think you mean CO. CO2 is directly proportional to fuel burnt, and there's no way a 2 ton vehicles burns less fuel than a 120kg vehicle.
If you're curious then google it.
I did and posted a link. You obviously didn't even read it.
Same exact thing happened during the most recent stock market and real estate bubbles.
Is this the same stock market and real estate market that are at records highs right now? I'm not sure your definition of bubble is being correctly applied...
The very same characteristics are displayed by bitcoin. The most important one is increasing artificial scarcity fuelled by late comers
When is late and when is early? I find BTC is still in the expert/enthusiast stage of market penetration. If it goes truly mainstream, as in my mum wants to buy some, then we'll know we're approaching the peak. Based on this benchmark then we're not even halfway up the hype curve.
When cryptocurrency ultimately gains traction, it'll be because some major institution or government decides to implement it on scale.
You mean like how major banks already use Blockchain for inter-bank transactions? And Govts are already working Blockchain for identity?
People on the outside see cryptocurrency as one part hobby, one part religion, one part social experiment, one part speculation, and one part black market. Frankly, they're right--and they're right not to touch it with a ten-foot pole.
By people you mean people who don't understand how technology works. Because for people in the Fintech sector this stuff is the future. BTC might or might not be overvalued, but I can assure you that Blockchain type technology is here for a while.
Real Estate never really loses value
So you've never been to Detroit?
Literally every other bubble has the same evangelists spouting off the various reasons why it's not a bubble and why this time it's different.
Like Real Estate and the Tech Boom etc. Oh wait...
BTC may be a bubble, it may not. But just wishing it to be one doesn't make it so...
Wrong! China holds most.
China isn't a person. Even if the Chinese govt cracked down the value would drop temporarily until others took up the slack (there's queues of non Chinese residents lining up for cloud mining services not in China)
Given my fuzzing audits on several exchanges - you're better off with a bank.
Ever heard of a wallet? Based on the other gibberish you wrote probably not...
I was hoping there would be one of the many many "this bubble will go forever because it's totally not a bubble!" folk in here. Thank you for not disappointing. :)
You quoted something that no-one said to make yourself feel better. Is it a bubble? Maybe maybe not, only time will tell. We're still hearing how real estate is a bubble 20 years on. Some clowns are still bitching about fiat currency being a bubble. Bring back the Gold Standard!
BTC could last 5 more minutes, 5 months or 50 years who's to say? I can't but what I have seen is that the technology is sound, and there is limited supply and increasing demand. If BTC does reach $70k what will your position be then?
It becomes a speculation, and by now it's tulip time.
Like Apple shares circa 2001? Man I'm glad I sold those when I did....
If it takes three or four trips to the store to carry a week's worth of groceries with the scooter, which the car could have carried in one trip, then that means several times the emissions.
In that one example of which there are literally thousands you haven't mentioned.
Not every trip will be like that, of course, but it's common enough
The most common journey is commuting to and from work. If every person driving to work rode a modern scooter CO2 would be halved overnight and congestion would disappear.
Not claiming this is practical, just making the point.
and later discover that you need the car, any gains you might have otherwise made are more than offset by the extra trip to switch vehicles.
What? I have a car and a bike. 99% of my journeys are on the bike, the small time I need to take more than one passenger, or pickup big things then I take the car. There is no going back to get the car, I know what I'm doing before I leave home.
That isn't even considering the safety factor, or the risk of inclement weather. Better, IMHO, to have a single reasonably efficient (30+ MPG) enclosed passenger+cargo vehicle that can handle 99% of all trips.
And contributes to most pollution, congestion and accidents. Again I'm not claiming scooters are for everyone, but most of the traffic/pollution/parking issues would disappear overnight if people could get past the FUD.
You'll be happy to know the GP was wrong. Scooters are far worse than cars per commuter mile too.
Depends on the car and scooter and what you define as pollution doesn't it?
I know my bike uses less fuel, less road space, causes less damage to the road so requires less maintenance and things it hits if I crash suffer less damage needing less repair etc etc I don't know if this means less net pollution but I'd be cautious about throwing around such claims without some numbers. I found this as a starter: https://rideapart.com/articles...
Did you know pound per pound your scooter probably pollutes more than my car does?
I did but I don't ride 2000kg of scooters every day...
Why should my tax dollars subsidize your hobby? If you want to drive, do it on a private track.
Er, robot cars will still drive on publicly funded roads won't they? So why should my tax dollars subsidize your hobby?
Not sure why this is rated funny, it should be informative.
Expected behaviour is a thing. I noticed something just today as I was driving, a woman and child ran quickly across a busy street with a trajectory straight in front of my fast moving car. I saw them, they saw me and I knew that their intention was to stop on the small median island between lanes so carried on at full speed. The event resulted as expected, they stopped on the island, I kept going uninterrupted.
With AI how does it know they intend to stop? A robot car relying on sensors would have to assume they are gone to continue running in front of the car and act to avoid collision. Multiply this by millions of such events everyday and you end up with completely unexpected behaviour everywhere.
I can't see how this can work without being really slow and annoying for robot car passengers because exactly that, the algorithms are mostly incompatible.
Whether you agree with what he says or not, that takes a lot of balls and is to be respected. He doesn't spout conservative bullshit either, contrary to popular lore.
I respect that he says what he thinks, it's refreshing to cut through the shit for once. But I don't respect that he lies blatantly about pretty much everything, and has a pattern of stabbing his associates in the back as soon as they disagree with him. We should be embracing those who ask questions, not shun them. That is straight from the establishment playbook.
This behaviour never ends well. Has there ever been a case where an egotistic, narcissistic liar has succeeded at public office?
It's possible he doesn't believe that anymore.
Anything is possible, but we can judge people on what they say and do not what we try and guess.
Wouldn't this strengthen the population that carries the viruses by eliminating the weaker carries, i.e. breeding out the weak and re-enforcing the stronger ones? I'm not a biologist or geneticist
Only if they survive. For millions of already extinct species this didn't happen, so don't bet the house on 'life always finds a way' bullshit.
Quote: "And, since the treatment they receive sterilizes them, ..."
Are you sure? I mean, are you SCIENTIFICALLY sure about that point?
I'm not sure, but what I am confident of is that the scientists who do this work for a living know more about it than you or I. And even if they go off half-cocked there are layers and layers of scrutiny and regulations to pull them up.
So yeah, the place to ask these questions is not here.
We've learned a lot about pest control, and have gone far beyond early and clumsy efforts. While so many Slashdotters are still stuck in the 1960's Andromeda Strain world, we've been using these highly focused controls for many years. might as well rail on about vaccines.
Oh man, I thoroughly enjoyed that post. Good work!
I'm still kicking myself for not buying Bitcoins when I first heard about them right here on Slashdot.
Aren't we all. After much cynicism I bit the bullet earlier this year and have already made a couple of grand. A mate which jumped in least year is up a couple of hundred grand. Oh the benefits of hindsight...
The objective is to repeat the lie more often than it is repudiated. For many people, hearing something said frequently by multiple sources is how they judge whether it's true or not, and then they tack on a value judgement of the sources based on their affiliation.
Well to be fair that technique does actually work. The human brain is flawed, but part of being a developed, mature adult is to learn what those flaws are and try and protect yourself from them. eg In the above example the appropriate action to to remove yourself from the constant bombardment of messages that are designed to corrupt your thought processes.
So while I think Trump is completely unfit to hold public office, quite possibly the most incompetent and immature leader in generations, his message of fake news is an important one. But it would carry more weight if if didn't associate himself with the fakiest of fake news organisations and publicly shun independent research and intelligent data in favour of fake news as his source of truth.
https://www.theguardian.com/en... Of course it's easier here in Sweden were we supposedly didn't promised anything.
Sorry I didn't see what the concrete promises were vs the vague promises? What are the US proposing that is better/worse/more concrete/less vague than others?
Still don't understand the difference in mission or capabilities between helicopters and STOVL stealth jets junior?
Oh right, so after all that now you want to come back and play with the big kids?
If you want to back the original topic at hand, then answer the original question. Why do you think a STOVL Jet is useful today? Because they need them doesn't qualify an answer.
The fake news was them reporting about the koi pool.
Are you replying to the right thread? My response was to the claim that no-one who rejected the Paris accord was advocating that AGW is false. I sourced a quote that says otherwise directly from the man himself. No news fake or real is involved.
To be fair who else is a white person to vote for?
There was more than two choices. Until people start voting for someone else, the cycle will continue...