as opposed to Apple's iPod only being able to play iTunes music
If you mean that you have to uses iTunes to put songs on your iPod, that would be correct. If your assertion is that iPod only will play music that is bought from iTunes music store, I have to tell you, as one of the millions of iPod owners, a miniscule amount of my 30GB of music comes from the iTMS.
iPod also plays WAV, AIFF, Audible, MP3 and Apple Lossless in adition to AAC (protected or not).
OR choose to directly compete with Microsoft and let Dell, Lenovo and HP sell Apple designed/approved "built for MacOS/X" laptops and PCs
in the 90's Apple ported Mac OS 7.5 to the 486. They approached Michael Dell (when Dell was maybe 4th or 5th in the market and not 1) and basically Michael Dell said the only way they would put Mac OS on their PCs is if Apple gave it to them for free because whether they put Windows on a box or not, they had to pay a license fee to MS.
See also: why Be went belly up.
Apple may be able to sell their OS to anyone who wants to run it on x86 but support is CRUCIAL. Do you think when you call Dell for Windows support you are talking to someone at Microsoft?
It will be too easy for files to get lost. Say you don't label something properly, or you change the label, or you forget the name, or the name is unmemorable - what will happen to the file? Just sit there on your disk taking up space, never to be seen again?
Have you NO idea how indexing works???
Right now on a Macintosh running Tiger all you have to do is remember what was INSIDE the file to be able to find it. If I am looking for am image I took with my digital camera but I had not named it anything useful (as most digital cameras do not) I just have to remember the date I TOOK the photo and what resolution, or even just the resolution. If I have a Word document or PDF that was about Montana all I have to do is search for Montana,
Tha AMAZING thing about Spotlight is all the metadata attached to files now, and that INCLUDES the actual data INSIDE the file.
Kudos to your NeXT development team who's made this possible.
The NeXT developers had almost NOTHING to do with this. The search/index technology was called VTwin before it was called Spotlight and it has been part of Mac OS since Mac OS 8. The integration into the file system was done by one of BeOS's engineers (I don't remember his name) who now works for Apple.
The NeXT team was interesting but don't kid yourself about what they have brought and continue to bring to the table.
I see this more akin to General Motors stating that next year's Sunfires and Cavaliers would be using chassis x instead of chassis y.
Except if you buy car with chassis x now, you won't be able to drive on any of the roads in the future.
You clearly know nothing of what 68k users went through with the switch to PowerPC. NO MORE optimisations when the 68040 could have been MUCH better supported. Apple burned a lot of users with the switch from 68k to Intel and a lot of them went to Windows.
Apple has made it clear that the future is not PowerPC, why bother to develop for it? Every sane developer that plans on continuing development will completely abandon Altivec. Great, there goes the whole point of my G4 and G5.
No wonder Tiger runs about 33% faster on G3s, that's what teh emulation targets, just like the 68k emulator targets a 68020.
According to Apple's Universal Binary Programming Guidelines, their machines will not run OpenFirmware.
There's no mention of what Apple will be using to boot their computers, just that as a programmer, you should not make assumptions. Apple has been preaching that for DECADES.
given the fact that we have Apple on record saying that they will do nothing to stop people from running Windows on their new macs, I think that they're going to stake their Different-ness more on the speed and quality of their engineering.
Of course they're not going to stop people from running Windows on their machines, Apple makes their money on hardware. If nothing else, this opens another stream of revenue from PC users. If there's a market for the ridiculousness that is Alienware, certainly there will be Windows users that will want to buy an Apple machine to run it.
Then how can anyone predict this will hurt the platform?
Because now the Macintosh will just be a PC with a ROM. Once someone figures out how to run Mac OS X on a whitebox (and they will) there will be no compelling reason to buy Apple hardware.
In fact, I can't think of any hardware other than the case that is now different between a PC and an Apple.
The ROM for starters. Macintoshes do not use the crufty BIOS scheme. Lots of Apple ASICS as well, which may change with the switch to Intel but you can bet the farm that there will always be a ROM in a Macintosh.
It makes PC game conversion simpler and less expensive. No more big vs little endian problems or re-writing X86 assembler.
It makes conversions easier for companies like ID and the games based on their engines. The biggest hurdle in game conversions from Windows to anything is DirectX.
It allows for cheaper hardware, meaning the pros can buy a cheap intel Mac to play around on to see if the transition will hurt them or not before they all change over in 2007.
It may allow for cheaper consumer Macs but high-end PCs with the newest processors are on par with or more expensive than (when equipped with extras like FireWire and SATA) professional PowerMacs.
It gives Apple choice. If Intel continues to lose out to AMD, Apple can switch without losing compatability.
This is different than the Freescale/IBM situation how?
This would let "switchers" use both until they can transition to the Mac OS
Yep, that was a great plan that IBM tried with OS/2.
The only advantage this gives anyone is to multi-platform developers. Now there will be no question about whether Photoshop is faster on a Mac or on Windows.
Oh, and don't kid yourself about cheap Macs coming down the line, the 68k processor was just as cheap as Intel's processors were in the 80's and we weren't seeing cheap Macs.
The pc market has *never* been a "wait six months then buy," market. Everything changes too fast. Why would people deny themselves the tools they want (or need) waiting for the upgrades?
In the PC world, you don't need to "wait and see". If something better comes out in 6 months you can just drop it into your current PC. New video card? New drive controller? New processor?
In the Macintosh world there are very limited upgrade options. Macs are not cobbled together third party hardware. Apple uses dozens of ASICS and Mac-specific hardware ROMs.
If you buy a PC now and a new motherboard comes out in 6 months, you can transfer all your hardware to the new motherboard. That's not the case with Macs.
Is apple going to sell prototypes of Apple Intel systems to any developer who wants to test their app?
Yes, you should have read all the keynote transcripts. They did the same thing when the PowerPC came out, developers were given prototype 6100s as part of their developer kit.
I feel cheated. I love Apple, I love Macs. I bought a G5 1.5 years ago and I will get a lot of use out of it for the forseeable future but I will not be upgrading to anything until the new Macs come out and I decide if they look at all worthwhile.
the way I see it, there's no reason for anyone to buy a planned obsolete Mac at all. No more minis, no more iMacs, no more G5s. Why waste your money? Apple has announced it will be dead in a year or two.
I went through the last architecture change and was consistently left out when Apple chose to only makie updates and enhancements available for PowerPC when an 040 could run them just fine in theory. The same thing will happen. To get users to buy new Intel Macs they will stop developing for PPC. They did the same thing with Classic to OSX. iTunes and most of the iLife suite are Carbon apps and Apple started artificially locking out customers who may have bought new G4s but didn't want to run OSX for whatever reason.
I hate Windows so I will not be going there, but once I am ready to upgrade my dual G5 I will be making a serious choice about whether it will be Linux or another BSD derivative. I seriously don't know if it will be a Mac OS based computer for the first time.
I think games like WarioWare, Animal Crossing and Pikmin are good examples of new types of games and gameplay. Oh, you mean PC games aren't doing anything new. Yeah, everyone knows that already.
when are they going to come out with the MMORPG where I can play as the dragon, or the inn keeper, or the weapon master? The real future of gaming is to elliminate the NPGs ion favour of humans.
The concept of creatingf software for a small market doesn't seem to affect Microsoft, Adobe, (the now bought out) Macromedia, ID, should I go on?
You'd also have to look at the demographics of those two markets. Statistically are Windows users more likely to pirate software than Macintosh users? I think Windows activation seems to indicate Microsoft believes that. You don't even enter a serial number for a Mac OS install.
You know, if you buy a PC from a store, you're a Windows user statistically. There's a license the vendor payed for whther you use it or not. Market share is measured by how many copies of an OS are SHIPPED, not purchased.
Just so you young whippersnappers remember, AOL was the reason there's a consumer internet AT ALL! The existence of AOL and its massive userbase was the impetus for improving the usability of things like WWW, Usenet and e-mail.
Did you think you could always point and click your way across the internet?
They've been selling mouses for consoles since Genesis/SNES, it's just that it's an extremely risky business plan to write a game that requires hardware that is not part of the system default (which is why there's basically online games for PS2 or Gamecube).
All the ID games I've played on consoles will use a mouse if you have one. I'd look for consoles to have trackballs/trackpads built into controllers before any come with a mouse.
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If you mean that you have to uses iTunes to put songs on your iPod, that would be correct. If your assertion is that iPod only will play music that is bought from iTunes music store, I have to tell you, as one of the millions of iPod owners, a miniscule amount of my 30GB of music comes from the iTMS.
iPod also plays WAV, AIFF, Audible, MP3 and Apple Lossless in adition to AAC (protected or not).
BTW, in this arena, Apple is the gorilla.
Only old people read Crigely in Korea.
in the 90's Apple ported Mac OS 7.5 to the 486. They approached Michael Dell (when Dell was maybe 4th or 5th in the market and not 1) and basically Michael Dell said the only way they would put Mac OS on their PCs is if Apple gave it to them for free because whether they put Windows on a box or not, they had to pay a license fee to MS.
See also: why Be went belly up.
Apple may be able to sell their OS to anyone who wants to run it on x86 but support is CRUCIAL. Do you think when you call Dell for Windows support you are talking to someone at Microsoft?
Have you NO idea how indexing works???
Right now on a Macintosh running Tiger all you have to do is remember what was INSIDE the file to be able to find it. If I am looking for am image I took with my digital camera but I had not named it anything useful (as most digital cameras do not) I just have to remember the date I TOOK the photo and what resolution, or even just the resolution. If I have a Word document or PDF that was about Montana all I have to do is search for Montana,
Tha AMAZING thing about Spotlight is all the metadata attached to files now, and that INCLUDES the actual data INSIDE the file.
They're called Smart Folders in Mac os X Tiger.
The NeXT developers had almost NOTHING to do with this. The search/index technology was called VTwin before it was called Spotlight and it has been part of Mac OS since Mac OS 8. The integration into the file system was done by one of BeOS's engineers (I don't remember his name) who now works for Apple.
The NeXT team was interesting but don't kid yourself about what they have brought and continue to bring to the table.
I for one welcome our animated overlords.
One being that there will be people who will want to buy a MacIntel to run Windows.
Except if you buy car with chassis x now, you won't be able to drive on any of the roads in the future.
You clearly know nothing of what 68k users went through with the switch to PowerPC. NO MORE optimisations when the 68040 could have been MUCH better supported. Apple burned a lot of users with the switch from 68k to Intel and a lot of them went to Windows.
Apple has made it clear that the future is not PowerPC, why bother to develop for it? Every sane developer that plans on continuing development will completely abandon Altivec. Great, there goes the whole point of my G4 and G5.
No wonder Tiger runs about 33% faster on G3s, that's what teh emulation targets, just like the 68k emulator targets a 68020.
personally that sounds more like Ballmer's thing. Haven't you read his book "Grapefruit Sodomy and Crack Whores, That Sort of Thing Is My Bag, Baby"?
There's no mention of what Apple will be using to boot their computers, just that as a programmer, you should not make assumptions. Apple has been preaching that for DECADES.
Of course they're not going to stop people from running Windows on their machines, Apple makes their money on hardware. If nothing else, this opens another stream of revenue from PC users. If there's a market for the ridiculousness that is Alienware, certainly there will be Windows users that will want to buy an Apple machine to run it.
Because now the Macintosh will just be a PC with a ROM. Once someone figures out how to run Mac OS X on a whitebox (and they will) there will be no compelling reason to buy Apple hardware.
The ROM for starters. Macintoshes do not use the crufty BIOS scheme. Lots of Apple ASICS as well, which may change with the switch to Intel but you can bet the farm that there will always be a ROM in a Macintosh.
It makes conversions easier for companies like ID and the games based on their engines. The biggest hurdle in game conversions from Windows to anything is DirectX.
It may allow for cheaper consumer Macs but high-end PCs with the newest processors are on par with or more expensive than (when equipped with extras like FireWire and SATA) professional PowerMacs.
This is different than the Freescale/IBM situation how?
Yep, that was a great plan that IBM tried with OS/2.
The only advantage this gives anyone is to multi-platform developers. Now there will be no question about whether Photoshop is faster on a Mac or on Windows.
Oh, and don't kid yourself about cheap Macs coming down the line, the 68k processor was just as cheap as Intel's processors were in the 80's and we weren't seeing cheap Macs.
In the PC world, you don't need to "wait and see". If something better comes out in 6 months you can just drop it into your current PC. New video card? New drive controller? New processor?
In the Macintosh world there are very limited upgrade options. Macs are not cobbled together third party hardware. Apple uses dozens of ASICS and Mac-specific hardware ROMs.
If you buy a PC now and a new motherboard comes out in 6 months, you can transfer all your hardware to the new motherboard. That's not the case with Macs.
Yes, you should have read all the keynote transcripts. They did the same thing when the PowerPC came out, developers were given prototype 6100s as part of their developer kit.
the way I see it, there's no reason for anyone to buy a planned obsolete Mac at all. No more minis, no more iMacs, no more G5s. Why waste your money? Apple has announced it will be dead in a year or two.
I went through the last architecture change and was consistently left out when Apple chose to only makie updates and enhancements available for PowerPC when an 040 could run them just fine in theory. The same thing will happen. To get users to buy new Intel Macs they will stop developing for PPC. They did the same thing with Classic to OSX. iTunes and most of the iLife suite are Carbon apps and Apple started artificially locking out customers who may have bought new G4s but didn't want to run OSX for whatever reason.
I hate Windows so I will not be going there, but once I am ready to upgrade my dual G5 I will be making a serious choice about whether it will be Linux or another BSD derivative. I seriously don't know if it will be a Mac OS based computer for the first time.
Yeah, but I heard some guy already came out with an editorbot hack that totally ruins it for everyone else.
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I think games like WarioWare, Animal Crossing and Pikmin are good examples of new types of games and gameplay. Oh, you mean PC games aren't doing anything new. Yeah, everyone knows that already.
when are they going to come out with the MMORPG where I can play as the dragon, or the inn keeper, or the weapon master? The real future of gaming is to elliminate the NPGs ion favour of humans.
It was the shizzle for rizzle ma nizzle!
You do realise that Mac OS 7.5 was 10 years ago...
How did you get modded informative?
Exactly what is your website?
You'd also have to look at the demographics of those two markets. Statistically are Windows users more likely to pirate software than Macintosh users? I think Windows activation seems to indicate Microsoft believes that. You don't even enter a serial number for a Mac OS install.
You know, if you buy a PC from a store, you're a Windows user statistically. There's a license the vendor payed for whther you use it or not. Market share is measured by how many copies of an OS are SHIPPED, not purchased.
Did you think you could always point and click your way across the internet?
All the ID games I've played on consoles will use a mouse if you have one. I'd look for consoles to have trackballs/trackpads built into controllers before any come with a mouse.