Among other things, it gets new releases every 6 months, it's Debian based, recognized my hardware on both powerbooks (G3 and G4), including my 3rd party wireless cards.
Yes, the logo and default desktop's image and sound are weirdly voodoistic and/or sexually disoriented, but hey, so are butterflies.
But the great thing is that it ain't no PPC distro, its actually a PPC/i386/amd64, so you get to have all machines, regardless of their color or religion, running the same SO.
I wanted a conection for my home on the country-side, Embratel has this StarOne service, but when I read the contract, it actually stated as FORBIDEN the use of Linux or Mac machines!! This shows up on the same part that talks about "stolen passwords" and "unauthorized access".
So I called the guy that manages my company's account at Embratel and he goes on explaininng that the software needed for their "accelerated access" was only available for M$. "Can I use a Proxy server and set my Linuxes and Macs behind it?", I tried, but he made it clear that this practice would break the contract and they could have me cut off from the service legally.
After all the hard work I had O/C'g my ibook, there's no way I'm going back to a PC...
I work for a company that wats to kick M$ because of the latest changes to the Enterprise Agreement model, such changes would cost us around US$ 3.000.000,00, and that's per year.
As a workaround, I'm adopting Linux wherever I can, and since my size and partnerships with IBM and Oracle allow it, I'm dealing directly with Chiefs at major " flavors".
Anyhow, I've been with RedHat, Conectiva (Caldera) and Suse. What's the strongest feature they try to sell me? Support from Oracle and IBM ('cause of my farm).
That's something that HAS to cost money, Caldera is apparently absorbing Conectiva so they can get the structure AND provide such homologations to make front against RedHat's investment that start next month targeting Latin America.
Something that comes around over and over is the story about how IBM didn' t go for the PC idea and got stuck in a moment with it's Mainframes in the past, and how microsoft seems to be heading likewise, losing share and scaring big customers by unleashing BSA's dogs of war.
I say trainning and support won't feed a 700 plus workforce sucha as RedHat's. Their partnering agreement gives them control and 40% of any contract they sign for an authorized partner. They receive the total and make the split, they grant themselves the right to audit your work, they won't allow you to use other distros.
The new approach (amazon.com is an eg.) is to show how much money you can save your client and charge a % of it. Call that a win-win situation.
If an alliance is to try and compete with this, I don't see how you can keep everything open. StarOffice looks to me like a good example of what is to come... i always say that if you're gonna sell to a big company, you gotta have certified workforce and some warranty that your product is going to survive the next couple years.
Average garage software won't appeal. You have to pack your merchandise and assume some kind of responsibility. I wouldn't invest money in something I can't control.
Get Degrees, get Certifications, buy books and read them. I did that, got me a skyrocket carrer (in 3 years from support dude to Tech Manager for a major Solution Provider)I get to call the shots and lead a great group solving matters for companies such as Bank Boston and GE.
I can handle M$, Cisco, Linux. Got the papers to show and, above all, my experience.
Funny thing is: Last time my VP called me for a regular chat, he enumerated my qualities topping them with the fact that I make a difference for being an artist.
I have a Bachellor's Degree in Design, Airbrushed everything from Indy car race Helmets to Trucks for years, used to teach Spanish and English, I'm a good mechanic for my bikes and classic cars.
I guess that's what keeps me alive, and still in bussiness! But that doesn't mean I wouldn't drop everything and move to the mountains with my baby girls in a second.
Hi Tech stuff is great ! I'm buying me an iBook just to get to know the system, still, I have to deal with AT&T account managers and Salespeople and Dumb C-whatever-Os twice a week..
Balance things dude, take the final step there, go for the last months of study with a nice lady, or a car restoration, or a house paint running on the side.
And I had a hell of a time having it fixed, it worked fine for a couple months and then started "blinking" on the output, after a few days of this the smell was there again and I had it replaced.
It didn't melt or catch fire anyway.... I sold it and got me a Vaio, whose magnesium is loosing paint.
I see THAT as a major plus, it doesn't only help you get into the linux world BUT it solves one of the biggest poblems with selling corporates a full-linux answer --> CERTIFIED PEOPLE.
Might not mean much in real life, but companies do feel more confident.
I mean, u get a regular linux dude: "I'm gonna b using this and that dists plus those packs plus a little sumthin' I got done last weekend"... linux works like a dream, company saves money, dude leaves company.
Where do they get a guy that knows, and can prove it, all those bits?
Joe - MCSE+I, MCDBA, MCT, Profissional Certificado Conectiva
How about old Laps with good Crystal?
Ive gotten me a couple way old Compaq laptops with B/W LCDs that Id LOVE to hook to my servers, anyone there knows of a source to get PIN info on them?
My girfriends pet cat made a jump on my desktop the other day and busted my Vaios display... Ive turned it into a server for the time beeing and wouldnt mind to use a LCd from a different maker just to get the portability back.....
I mean, I can get a hold on a dell with a burnt down M/B and hack it?
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...try Ubuntu Linux.
Among other things, it gets new releases every 6 months, it's Debian based, recognized my hardware on both powerbooks (G3 and G4), including my 3rd party wireless cards.
Yes, the logo and default desktop's image and sound are weirdly voodoistic and/or sexually disoriented, but hey, so are butterflies.
But the great thing is that it ain't no PPC distro, its actually a PPC/i386/amd64, so you get to have all machines, regardless of their color or religion, running the same SO.
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I wanted a conection for my home on the country-side, Embratel has this StarOne service, but when I read the contract, it actually stated as FORBIDEN the use of Linux or Mac machines!! This shows up on the same part that talks about "stolen passwords" and "unauthorized access" .
So I called the guy that manages my company's account at Embratel and he goes on explaininng that the software needed for their "accelerated access" was only available for M$. "Can I use a Proxy server and set my Linuxes and Macs behind it?", I tried, but he made it clear that this practice would break the contract and they could have me cut off from the service legally.
After all the hard work I had O/C'g my ibook, there's no way I'm going back to a PC...
~/Joe
I work for a company that wats to kick M$ because of the latest changes to the Enterprise Agreement model, such changes would cost us around US$ 3.000.000,00, and that's per year.
As a workaround, I'm adopting Linux wherever I can, and since my size and partnerships with IBM and Oracle allow it, I'm dealing directly with Chiefs at major " flavors".
Anyhow, I've been with RedHat, Conectiva (Caldera) and Suse. What's the strongest feature they try to sell me? Support from Oracle and IBM ('cause of my farm).
That's something that HAS to cost money, Caldera is apparently absorbing Conectiva so they can get the structure AND provide such homologations to make front against RedHat's investment that start next month targeting Latin America.
Something that comes around over and over is the story about how IBM didn' t go for the PC idea and got stuck in a moment with it's Mainframes in the past, and how microsoft seems to be heading likewise, losing share and scaring big customers by unleashing BSA's dogs of war.
I say trainning and support won't feed a 700 plus workforce sucha as RedHat's. Their partnering agreement gives them control and 40% of any contract they sign for an authorized partner. They receive the total and make the split, they grant themselves the right to audit your work, they won't allow you to use other distros.
The new approach (amazon.com is an eg.) is to show how much money you can save your client and charge a % of it. Call that a win-win situation.
If an alliance is to try and compete with this, I don't see how you can keep everything open. StarOffice looks to me like a good example of what is to come... i always say that if you're gonna sell to a big company, you gotta have certified workforce and some warranty that your product is going to survive the next couple years.
Average garage software won't appeal. You have to pack your merchandise and assume some kind of responsibility. I wouldn't invest money in something I can't control.
But that's just me.
~IZZATAFACTNOW?
Motor City Online !
Ride, wreck, crash and burn, make other people mad at you !!!
Operation Flash Point
Same reasons + Sniper Rifles and Grenades...
ABC Warriors For Ever
Get Degrees, get Certifications, buy books and read them. I did that, got me a skyrocket carrer (in 3 years from support dude to Tech Manager for a major Solution Provider)I get to call the shots and lead a great group solving matters for companies such as Bank Boston and GE.
I can handle M$, Cisco, Linux. Got the papers to show and, above all, my experience.
Funny thing is: Last time my VP called me for a regular chat, he enumerated my qualities topping them with the fact that I make a difference for being an artist.
I have a Bachellor's Degree in Design, Airbrushed everything from Indy car race Helmets to Trucks for years, used to teach Spanish and English, I'm a good mechanic for my bikes and classic cars.
I guess that's what keeps me alive, and still in bussiness! But that doesn't mean I wouldn't drop everything and move to the mountains with my baby girls in a second.
Hi Tech stuff is great ! I'm buying me an iBook just to get to know the system, still, I have to deal with AT&T account managers and Salespeople and Dumb C-whatever-Os twice a week..
Balance things dude, take the final step there, go for the last months of study with a nice lady, or a car restoration, or a house paint running on the side.
Keep a foot in the real world.
Thats direct.
There he is ! Right now, live ! I wish theyd get a better translation, any links yet?
And I had a hell of a time having it fixed, it worked fine for a couple months and then started "blinking" on the output, after a few days of this the smell was there again and I had it replaced.
It didn't melt or catch fire anyway.... I sold it and got me a Vaio, whose magnesium is loosing paint.
I wish they'd make things to last.
Joe
...till I can get potatoes to power my e-book?
~Joe
Hope thet helps the artists get to know the REAL numbers of record sales.
Nah, probably that's not part of business policy.
Joe
I see THAT as a major plus, it doesn't only help you get into the linux world BUT it solves one of the biggest poblems with selling corporates a full-linux answer --> CERTIFIED PEOPLE.
Might not mean much in real life, but companies do feel more confident.
I mean, u get a regular linux dude: "I'm gonna b using this and that dists plus those packs plus a little sumthin' I got done last weekend" ... linux works like a dream, company saves money, dude leaves company.
Where do they get a guy that knows, and can prove it, all those bits?
Joe - MCSE+I, MCDBA, MCT, Profissional Certificado Conectiva
How about old Laps with good Crystal? Ive gotten me a couple way old Compaq laptops with B/W LCDs that Id LOVE to hook to my servers, anyone there knows of a source to get PIN info on them? My girfriends pet cat made a jump on my desktop the other day and busted my Vaios display... Ive turned it into a server for the time beeing and wouldnt mind to use a LCd from a different maker just to get the portability back..... I mean, I can get a hold on a dell with a burnt down M/B and hack it? EOF