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Good Games For Christmas?

Since nothing really interesting seems to be happening today (unless you count some lame overpriced scooter) I figured I'd throw this out. We've discussed christmas presents in general, but what about refining the subject to just video games? With Final Fantasy 10 not due out until the day after christmas, what new games are coming out? Please mention systems in your subject line. Personally I just finished Klonoa 2 and enjoyed it, I'm maybe half way through Grand Theft Auto 3 and am absolutely in love, and just picked up Metal Gear Solid 2 but have yet to break the celophane, but can't wait. On the PC side, The Sims Hot Date expansion pack is pretty smooth if your idea of fun is micromanaging an armada of virtual people. I hope a psychiatrist never analyzes my Sims style.

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  1. Wolfenstein by zarathustra93 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oh how I loved this game in the earlt 1990's, and oh how I love it with a modern graphics engine. This one is one not to miss. I literally sweat while playing this game!

    5 fps stars!

    1. Re:Wolfenstein by HMC+CS+Major · · Score: 4, Interesting


      Oh how I loved this game in the earlt 1990's, and oh how I love it with a modern graphics engine. This one is one not to miss. I literally sweat while playing this game!


      While I certainly agree with you in your assertion that Wolfenstein is a great game, I question it's quality in a family setting. I certainly would not want anyone younger than, say, 10 playing this game. Killing Nazis is fine for teenagers, but should probably be avoided for anyone younger than 10.

      A second game for the teenage age that I would certainly recommend is Halflife. Yes, it's been out forever. But, for people who dont have brand new 2.0 ghz p4's or 1900+ Athlon XP's, Halflife offers a game that is easy on older hardware, has an active online multiplayer community, and is really fun to play.

      For those who arent yet teenagers, or who dont enjoy killing people for sport, I'd suggest any of the recent sims. In fact, I'd actually support the purchase of some of the sim clones: they cost less, and, for the most part, are completely up to par with the originals.

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      My opinions arent necessarily the opinions of anyone else, in fact, they're usually wrong.

    2. Re:Wolfenstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I'm on a school computer right now that won't let me log in so I guess I'm an anonymous coward by default here. I'd just like to say that while Return to Castle Wolfenstein is an awesome game I'm really disapointed that they cut out the Nazis yelling in German. That was one of the coolest parts of the original game! I will always remember, "Guten Tag! *ratatatatatat*"

    3. Re:Wolfenstein by slashzero · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can still hear it. It's burned into my nuerons along with the mario brothers theme song.

    4. Re:Wolfenstein by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Wolfenstien 3d was one of the first games I ever played on a PC, and I think I was 7 at the time. I distinctly remember thinking "Wow, this is gory. I should really be affected by this.", but after the game ended, so did that thought.

      Come to think of it, the only game which I've ever been affected by was GTA, and that was just because of the perspective, not the killing.

      Killing in games just isn't realistic enough for me (or specifically, my subconscious) to care. I don't think this will change, even with Doom 3 coming out. My mind knows it's not real, and it always has.

      Now, watching "unsolved mysteries" at 7 is another story. Those T.V shows seem to be specifically designed to invoke a "he might get me next!" type reaction, which is only amplified when seen through naive eyes.

      --
      It's been a long time.
    5. Re:Wolfenstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever I travel to Germany, I'm always tempted to run around yelling "Ausweiss, Bitte!"

    6. Re:Wolfenstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in the day, when 10pm was late to stay up playing games when you hear the Nazi screams and then falling off the chair. Ah the good ol' days.

    7. Re:Wolfenstein by junkgrep · · Score: 3, Funny

      ---Killing Nazis is fine for teenagers, but should probably be avoided for anyone younger than 10.---

      Are you kidding? The only reason Nazis were invented in the first place was so that we would have computer game villians that could be killed without bothering _anyone's- moral conscience.

      The only reason 10 year olds shouldn't buy Wolfenstein 3d is that the Nazis in it speak English for some twisted reason. THAT'LL warp their little minds...

    8. Re:Wolfenstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if you are in school now.... That would make you how old when the original wolfenstein came out?

    9. Re:Wolfenstein by ukyoCE · · Score: 1

      I was in middle school I think. my 486 with a (gasp!) on-chip floating point processor. I didn't have sound though so I missed out on all the nazi speak

    10. Re:Wolfenstein by grammar+fascist · · Score: 2

      A second game for the teenage age that I would certainly recommend is Halflife. Yes, it's been out forever. But, for people who dont have brand new 2.0 ghz p4's or 1900+ Athlon XP's, Halflife offers a game that is easy on older hardware, has an active online multiplayer community, and is really fun to play.

      I second that. Also, as far as community goes, it's not just active, it's HUGE. According to the GameSpy stats page, it's seriously kicking everything else's butt in terms of players. (Think like 10 times more people play it than play Quake III Arena.)

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      I got my Linux laptop at System76.
    11. Re:Wolfenstein by The+Llama+King · · Score: 1


      Hey, you're never too young to kill Nazis. If you're old enough to use a mouse, you're old enough to kill Nazis.

      The family that wastes Nazis together ... stays together.

      --
      C'mon, baby, kiss The King.
    12. Re:Wolfenstein by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
      Oh how I loved this game in the earlt 1990's, and oh how I love it with a modern graphics engine. This one is one not to miss. I literally sweat while playing this game!

      You mean the mid-80s. Heh. I had a conversation with someone about how there was a charm about older games. We talked about Wolfenstein, about how it pushed the graphics, about how the lousy sound was still exciting because they talked.

      Then I mentioned how annoying it was to countdown all the way on a 120 second chest and found out it only contained cannonballs or schnaps, which was even worth than useless because you got drunk.

      Oops - he wasn't talking about Wolfenstein, he was talking about Wolfenstein 3D. Incidently, in the original, I used to sweat when an SS got on my trail - those buggers could only be taken out with a grenade (which had a good chance of blowing you up), and their cry of "SS!" rattled the Apple ][ case - you'd jump out of your seat when one bellowed as he came in the door and ran straight for you.

      As for good games to buy for christmas, try World Tree... we've been playing it for a few months now, and it's yet to get old. Ahem.

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      Evan

      --
      "$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
    13. Re:Wolfenstein by cube00 · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about? They still yell stuff in German in RTCW, "HALT!" or "Ist da jemand?".. I don't know about the retail version.. I dl mine.. :)

    14. Re:Wolfenstein by Shelled · · Score: 1
      Killing Nazis is bad for ten year olds, but killing American troops is good? The second half of Halflife centers on killing domestic troops sent to hush the experiment gone awry. Add in the mods, DOD and Firearms in particular, and it's difficult to see how Halflife is any worse than Wolfenstein in this regard.

      I agree though that it's the best value for the dollar in a FPS, especially for use on older systems.

    15. Re:Wolfenstein by Kablooie!! · · Score: 1

      And don't forget the best $23.00 you can spend: Serious Sam by Croteam.

      It's a lot of fun.

      Grant/Kablooie!!

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      Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart.
  2. Civ 3 by Tuzanor · · Score: 2

    All i want is Civilization 3. I just had my birthday yesterday, and I was given money to but it from a family member with the sincire promise that I won't buy it untill the christmas holidays (2 weeks!!!)

    DAMN!!!

    1. Re:Civ 3 by H1r0Pr0tag0n1st · · Score: 1

      I got to play with it a little at a friends the day after it came out. totally rocks.
      My wife loves these games so that's what she's getting.
      Good thing she dosent read /. tho'...

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      Americans could not be more self absorbed if they were made of equal parts water and paper towel. -Dennis Miller
    2. Re:Civ 3 by Arandir · · Score: 2

      Civ III is cool! It's also addictive as hell. Don't plan to do anything else the first week you have it. I toyed with it a bit just before Thanksgiving vacation, then started a real game last monday. Duh! I haven't done anything else! My bills are backing up, so that I take them in to work so I can do them because once I get home my brain shuts off and I play Civ III until I fall asleep. I expect to finish the game tomorrow night, then I can finally get some real work done :-)

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      A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
    3. Re:Civ 3 by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

      Civ3...gawd Ive been playing it too much...can't sleep, barbarians will eat me.

    4. Re:Civ 3 by cavemanf16 · · Score: 2
      Are you kidding! The minute you finish your first game, you'll realize how stupid you were with certain decisions, you'll have read a few forums with good strategies, and then you'll be chomping at the bit even more to start 'just one more game' so you can do it right on the Warlord level. I can't even imagine how bad it's going to be for me when I am able to move on to the more challenging, and more fun, Prince level (or whatever level 3 is called in Civ3).

      BTW, did I mention what an addictively fun game Civ3 is? The AI politics are so much better than any of its predecessor's political AI. I just wish that that damn Infogrames hadn't made me go find game cracks just so I could circumvent their non-working (on my computer anyways) CD copy-protection scheme just to play the game! *still angry about that*

    5. Re:Civ 3 by Doomdark · · Score: 4, Informative
      I know it's just matter of taste, but I thought Civ 3 was bit of a disappointment (or at least mixed bag). I loved Civ, Civ II, and have been happily playing CivCTP (since I bought a copy on Linux back when it first arrived... with enough patches it's even stable. :-)), but Civ 3 I bought few weeks ago is now collecting dust. It wasn't totally horribly bad, just not quite what I hoped for. Perhaps Sid is getting old or something. :-) (or perhaps I am)

      The biggest problems were its instability (dunno why, perhaps it's not completely Civ3's fault, but Win ME kept on locking up all the time when running Civ 3), crappy gfx (I absolutely hate them compared to, say, Civ 2), non-usable UI (compared to what CivCTP or Civ 2 had... hey, let's make it more user-friendly by removing all "complexity", like menus...), and the fact that there didn't seem to be all that many interesting new features.

      On plus side, it wasn't total rip-off (a la Settlers 3); sphere of influence (or whatever it was called) is a nice idea, movement restrictions are more varied (and interesting) now, diplomacy seems to have been improved, special resources are a nice addition... and perhaps there are more goodies if I do spend more time with it.

      Hmmh. Perhaps I'll need to give Civ 3 a new chance during xmas break, after all. :-)

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      I like paying taxes. With them I buy civilization -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
    6. Re:Civ 3 by attackiko · · Score: 1

      Happy birthay!

    7. Re:Civ 3 by Arandir · · Score: 3, Informative

      non-usable UI (compared to what CivCTP or Civ 2 had... hey, let's make it more user-friendly by removing all "complexity", like menus...)

      I'm not a Windows user, so I thought that was standard :-)

      Seriously, the UI really sucks, and the manual doesn't help much. I talked with a friend who have won two games (where does he get the time!) and he talked about saving the game and then retiring just so he could see what his score was. Then I mentioned the "h" button hidden on the unit display and he went gaga. Then he told me about the capital diplomacy menu having different options than the advisor diplomacy menu (which has different options than the "d" button diplomacy menu hidden on the unit display).

      Just pretend Civ III is Myst III. There's a hidden control panel there somewhere, and you job is to find it.

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      A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
    8. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure I'll play it again. And again and again. But I vow to give it a rest until Christmas vacation when I have the time. My TODO list is growing to fast.

    9. Re:Civ 3 by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 2

      When you click the E button for Espionage, you only get two choices: Investigate City and Steal Technology. If you double click on the little pentagon in the city where you built the Intelligence Agency, you get options to plant spies and do other Espionage stuff. I'm on my third full game and I just figured out what this obscure little pentagon means.

    10. Re:Civ 3 by Misch · · Score: 2

      I think you pointed out another of Civ III's flaws: Incomplete documentation.

      Things that would have been nice to have in ahrdcopy:
      Unit list, resources needed, cost (shields)
      City improvement list, resources needed

      umm... more complete details of commands.

      Who knew that the star with stuff in it, or the pentagon-shaped CIA were really things you could (and should) click on.)

      A better manual sure would have been helpful.

      But that's just my $0.02
      *goes back to Civ III*

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      --You will rephrase your request for me to go to hell. Goto statements are not acceptable programming constructs
    11. Re:Civ 3 by El_Nofx · · Score: 1

      Civ 3 rocks, Every time a new civ release comes out I go right back to the game and abandon all others. I was a CS and UT junkie before Civ 3, now i'm back baby, WOOO HOOO
      Don't get the tin "Deluxe" version, it is a waste of time. Please pay for civ 3, do not pirate it.
      These guys do such a good job that they derserve the money. I have only bought 4 games in my ENTIRE LIFE. Even though I must possess 100 or so. I have only bought 4, Civ 1, Civ 2, UT and Civ3. (Yes the first person shooter craze got to me) but not anymore baby!
      If you don't get it for christmas you being depribed.

      2. second idea.
      I want that cool laser watch on thinkgeek. that thing in neato but so far my Mom, Girlfriend, Dad and Grandparents have all told me they wouldn't get it for me, arrgh..

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      It's not the OS it's the user that sucks. If it's user friendly, you get stupider people. - clinko
    12. Re:Civ 3 by El_Nofx · · Score: 1

      Your problem is not Civ 3, it is WinME
      I run civ 3 on XP and it runs ROCK SOLID

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      It's not the OS it's the user that sucks. If it's user friendly, you get stupider people. - clinko
    13. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was a major, major let down. It is still awfully buggy and the gameplay balance is terrible, as some examples:

      Corruption is totally out of whack- so much so you'll be lucky to make money on many cities.

      Diplomacy is also nerfed. The AI has a muggers mentality and won't do any reasonable kind of deal.

      Resources- one of the "cool" new feautures essentially focres you into a war pose since the AI won't trade strategic resources and you can't really win without them. Sucks to find out you can't build swordsmen since you have no iron. Also a porblem, not every resrouce is on every map. Especially ifyou play tiny or small maps I've had several games end when there was no coal anywhere to be seen.

      The AI still operates on the "build a ton of army units and wonders while neglecting everything else" mentality.

      Cultural boundaries are a nice add but the AI ignores them completely and you'll be constantly warning bad guys ouot of your civ.

      Oh and no scenario editor, no multi-player either.

      It isn't the worst game ever but if you want good historical grand strategy simulations I think Europa Universalis 2 is a much better game.

    14. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got that game and it's kinda lame. Alpha Centauri is way better.

    15. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the pace of Civ 3 was too slow.

      In Civ 2, wars were resolved rather quickly and research progressed steadily.

      In Civ3, it takes 20-30 turns often to wipe an enemy civilization. I get bored turn after turn retaking a single town over and over again. Furthermore, research is always stinted so that you can never progress too far ahead of other players.

      Other than that, all the new features were rather well done. I personally just can't stand the slower pace, so I don't play it that much.

    16. Re:Civ 3 by athakur999 · · Score: 1

      Gotta agree with you. The game itself is great, but the UI is definately a step down from SMAC or even Civ II. First, it's slow (though I admit, my Celeron 450 is no speed demon). Second, I haven't figured out how to find some of the more advanced commands (i.e. the "build a road to...", disband, etc.), I had figure them out by trial and error and dusting off my memory of SMAC.

      The culture system is nice though, definately a good evolution of the sphere of influence from SMAC. The natural resources add an interesting new element to the game. The new diplomacy system is great too. Also, I like how units are no longer supported by one city, but by your civilization as a whole. Unfortunately, losing the concept of "home cities" means you can use the SMAC-style "improve home city..." option for workers, but it's a good trade.

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      "People that quote themselves in their signatures bother me" - athakur999
    17. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course I read slashdot. And you're a jerk. I don't want some stupid geek game, you jerk. I want that necklace we were looking at, at the mall the other weekend.

      You are a jerk. I'm leaving you, you jerk. I'm taking everything, but you can have the computer; you spend all your time staring at it anyway, you jerk. By the way, I always faked it and I've been sleeping with your dad for the last six months. Jerk.

    18. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't try to "Fortify" a unit by right-clicking the unit and choosing "Fortify" from the city screen. This _always_ causes my game to lockup under W2k. Instead exit the city screen and hit the 'F' key when action is required for that unit. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to "Upgrade-All-Units" by clicking on a button?

    19. Re:Civ 3 by trurl3 · · Score: 1

      Don't expect too much. Civ 3 is very disappointing. It's Civ 2, sugarcoated with more bloat, better graphics...and an AI that looks like it was hacked together over one weekend on a broken lisp implementation by a person who never did learn the meaning of "functional programming".
      Civ 1 probably had better AI. It's just prettier, but if you're expecting a major improvement, don't hold your breath. If they put in a fraction of the time they used on graphics to improve actual gameplay, this game might, in some derivative and shadowy way maybe start rising up to the level of Master of Orion...maybe. But I doubt it.
      My advice, don't buy it. You have better things to do with your time.

    20. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I bought Civ3 while it was on sale for $29.99 at Best Buy a few weeks ago. I've been playing it ever since.

      The good:
      - It remains true to the Civ Line
      - Graphics are a bit improved
      - It comes with an editor, so you can change the rules to how you want them.
      - It's addictive and Fun!

      The Bad:
      - It is pretty buggy. (A patch is supposed to come out this week though)
      - Nothing really groundbreaking
      - The A.I. makes more sense than the A.I. in Civ2, but it still doesn't seem to make a lot of sense sometimes.
      - No Multiplayer

      My final thoughts: Its definately worth the $30 I paid for it, but I don't know if it would have been worth $50 (the limited edition definately isn't worth $60).

      on a side note, I think I'm going to wait until after Christmas and see if I can snatch up a couple of these bugs (along with one of my buddies) on clearance or something and bring them in to work. Sounds like they have a lot of possibilities and they're not too expensive...

      http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/review/2 00 1/12/03/spotlight.htm (not the little furby thing, the bugs farther down the page)

    21. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just threw Civ III away yesterday. Locked up all the time (on a PC that never locks up), and was impossible to play.

      Anytime you revolt to get a new government, your neighbors invade.
      Opposing civs seem to automatically get all your civ advances.
      TOTALLY unfair battle model (i.e., enemy Warriors 1/1/1 have no trouble beating your defending, in-a-city, Riflemen (4/6/1)
      Game is virtually unplayable without extensive 3rd-party patches (try civfanatics.com)

      Anyway, I'm sure a lot of people love it. I didn't.

    22. Re:Civ 3 by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 2

      Well its actually worse than that right? If you build the intelligence agency in your capital, you get the star, the dot, and the pentagon superimposed.

    23. Re:Civ 3 by Zatar · · Score: 1

      > Win ME kept on locking up all the time when running Civ 3

      I had that problem and fixed it by installing new reference drivers for my GeForce 2 card.

      -Trevor

    24. Re:Civ 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well personally, i like my Civilization to be free. thats right Y'ALL! FREECIV!!!. Don't know if you have played it yet, but damn let me tell you, i have never played Civ before and i am hooked, its the single most GREAT work time waster EVER! Now if i could just remmeber where i freakin downloaded it from.......

      thx, the memory is in making

    25. Re:Civ 3 by Doomdark · · Score: 1
      Interesting. That's what I actually did a week ago (for my bulk Nvidia TNT2 card), and it seemed to help a bit. However, at that point I wasn't actively playing Civ 3, and couldn't really verify if it did help (ie. remove the prob).

      Hopefully it was the solution, thanks for your comment!

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      I like paying taxes. With them I buy civilization -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
  3. No Question by Dr.+Bent · · Score: 1

    Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Hands down the best game for the holiday season.

    Killing Nazis is fun for for the whole family.

    1. Re:No Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure is, unless you are a NAZI yourself... HAIL!
      j/k if you mods cant tell.

    2. Re:No Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Return to CW was a huge disappointment to me. Nothing new in the first person shooter. For out right FPS fun save 45 bucks and go with the $20 Serious Sam. Yes, it has been out for a while but it completely works as a down right fun complete doom/quake knock off.

      Max Payne is okay but a bit too restrictive compared to standard FPS.

  4. rtcw by kvandivo · · Score: 1

    Gotta be Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

    What's with it costing 60 bucks, though? Sheesh.

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    1. Re:rtcw by SquierStrat · · Score: 1

      Price gouging,and ID is NOT happy! :-|

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      Derek Greene
    2. Re:rtcw by thesolo · · Score: 1

      You just have to know where to look for a deal!

      RTCW is $47 US at Microplay:
      http://www.microplay.com/product.asp?t=c&pid=04787 5311350

      Even after shipping, still cheaper than how much Gamestop wants for it.

  5. civ 3 by alexc · · Score: 1

    civilization III is really good game. extremely addiciting. that would be my suggestion.

  6. PC Jetpack Christmas Edition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't get more appropriate . . .

    1. Re:PC Jetpack Christmas Edition by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      That was a shot of nostolgia! :)

      Jetpack: From the days when men were men and the command line was as user freindly as it got.

      I'm going to break out my old shareware CDs now.

      --
      It's been a long time.
  7. Civilization III by Flounder · · Score: 2

    Note, only buy this for your favorite geek if you wish absolutely no f2f contact with him/her until Groundhog's Day.

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    No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. - Cmdr. Susan Ivanova

  8. Civ III by UberOogie · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is a gimmie. Buy it, and you won't need another game, or TV, or food, for a vera, vera long time.

    --
    "Enough of this wretched, whining monkey life." -- Marcus Aurelius, _Meditations_, Book 9, 37
    1. Re:Civ III by Saxerman · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Although both redundant and late I'd like to make the attempt to advise caution before spending the money on Civ3. I'm reminded of all the god-damn wonderful reviews that helped convince me to buy Black and White, and then being totally disappointed with the game itself.

      As a long time fan of Civ, Civ2, and SMAC I was rather disappointed with Civ3. Especially with all the tiny features that helped build Alpha Centuari into a great game, many of the features I've come to expect in the Civilization line are conspicuously absent.

      The wonder cinemas are gone, keyboard shortcuts feel clunky and missing, the tech tree feels a bit bare as they've cut out a few techs and reduced a few others to mere filler roles, air power is radically changed and feels a bit lite, and the new quirks with Corruption and Culture and the throwback combat system make Civ3 a totally different game than it's predecessors.

      While not a bad game by any means, it doesn't really give me the same feel of quit-my-job-and-leave-my-wife addiction that the originals did. I tried giving myself the time to get used to the new changes, but I'm afraid I just can't get into this version. Maybe I'm just old now. :(

      --

      A steaming cup of soykaf would be real wiz right now.

    2. Re:Civ III by UberOogie · · Score: 5, Informative
      I certainly understand this sentiment. I had been waiting six years for this game. The CTPers were cheap ripoffs with pointlessly snazzy graphics. I bought a copy of Civ III on day one, and promptly got my ass kicked by the computer until I saw the note about starting the game at two levels below what you're used to playing at. I got frustrated and went off and completed Max Payne and Wolf 3D (both in under a week--not long games, but good games), and I came back to Civ III. And then I found the sucking of my soul returned. Some brief reasons why this is a great game:

      Wars: Wars are much more realistic in this go around. They are much more difficult. You have to use actual planning and strategy and concentrate on specific goals (like one city).

      Strategic Resources: There add an entire new element to the game, and give much historically realistic reasons for wars. You might finally find yourself sympathizing with the Japenese in WWII when you're playing the game and another civilzation will just not trade you for an important strategic resource you need that is just outside your borders.

      Culture: This one kicked my ass to there and back and is the biggest change you have to get used to in the game, but the culture in the game accurately reflects the influence it has in the real world. One only has to look at the pervasiveness of American "culture" today to see how it really has an influence on geopolitics.

      In all, it is much more realistic and deep advancement on Civ II. Take a step back and come back to it with fresh eyes. The hype and the wait probably did the same thing to you as it did to me.

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      "Enough of this wretched, whining monkey life." -- Marcus Aurelius, _Meditations_, Book 9, 37
    3. Re:Civ III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bought Civ2. Played Civ2. Bought Civ2Gold. Played Civ2Gold. Bought Civ3. Played Civ3.

      Now playing Civ2Gold.

      Sorry, but Civ3 doesn't give me the same level of satisfaction that Civ2 did. It seems like it's been dumbed down a bit, and while I respect the motivation behind that, it's nothing that makes me want to play it any more than good old Civ2 Gold.

    4. Re:Civ III by Technosteve! · · Score: 1

      is it as good as alpha Cen.

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      Me and lunchbox here are going to kick your ass.
    5. Re:Civ III by glwtta · · Score: 1

      Very true! This is the first game I've played since I finished Max Payne (a few days before it hit stores, I believe ;) I paid for a retail copy afterwards, though)

      I just kinda wish I didn't get CivIII right before finals.

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      sic transit gloria mundi
    6. Re:Civ III by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2

      The biggest problem for me was speed. My dual celery 525 couldn't keep up with drawing the screen on CivIII. It would take (I timed it) 7 minutes for a turn to complete as my workers ran around building mines/railroads/whatever. Alpha Centauri would let you not move your field of view while units did their business, and turns took sooo much less time.

      I think this might have something to do with WinXP, though, as my roommates had better luck (but still bad). Either that, or the celery's cache, but that's the only real difference between our machines.

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      There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
    7. Re:Civ III by MechaChiken · · Score: 1

      If you've got a geforce and the latest drivers then you need to install the drivers that came with your card. For some reason (firaxis blame nvidia of course) the latest drivers for windows 2000 and xp run incredibly slowly with civ3.

    8. Re:Civ III by Chazmyrr · · Score: 1
      Wars: Wars are much more realistic in this go around. They are much more difficult. You have to use actual planning and strategy and concentrate on specific goals (like one city).

      No, not really. You have to concentrate on producing mass quantities of cheap 2+ move units. Watch the AI strategy on this. It's very effective. As for realistic, how realistic is it for my mechanized infantry to get slaughtered by jaguar warriors while fortified in my city? Of course I didn't have artillery in the city. It was out in the field trying to bombard an enemy city. The only viable way to use artillery in this game is city defense.

      Strategic Resources: There add an entire new element to the game, and give much historically realistic reasons for wars. You might finally find yourself sympathizing with the Japenese in WWII when you're playing the game and another civilzation will just not trade you for an important strategic resource you need that is just outside your borders.

      It's not that the other civilization won't trade, it's that they can't. They either don't know about the resource or they only have one. Trade requires 2+ resources of the same type. The absolute worst is coal. Generate a huge map for 16 civilizations. Count the coal. There might be 7-8.

      I don't feel the resources actually add anything to the game. In a Deity game on standard or smaller maps, a conquest victory is possible somewhen in the vicinity of 0 BC. The only resources that come into play are horses and iron. On a large map, a conquest victory is questionable and on a huge map the only chance of winning is through the UN because the rival civilizations keep respawning.

      Culture: This one kicked my ass to there and back and is the biggest change you have to get used to in the game, but the culture in the game accurately reflects the influence it has in the real world. One only has to look at the pervasiveness of American "culture" today to see how it really has an influence on geopolitics.

      The only real effect of culture in the game is borders. Sure, rival cities can convert if you have enough culture, but it's somewhat rare and not reliable. For example, I let a rival civilization build several cities next to my capitol figuring I would have easy time converting them given that I had several wonders and all the infrastructure buildings in my capitol. 50 turns later, one of them finally changes over.

      A few things you left out.

      AI: the AI expands to fill any and all available space as rapidly as possible. It will do nothing else unless war is declared and then will try to end the war quickly so it can get back to expansion. Once all available space is taken, then and only then will the AI focus on other activities.

      Diplomacy: under various conditions, the AI can create money and units out of thin air. There are also real problems with the system for determining the value of a trade. In addition, when considering how relative military might affects the terms, the main factor seems to simply be the number of units rather than how powerful each one is.

      Lack of choices: From the start, I felt like I was being forced into particular playstyles sanctioned by the designers. Many otherwise viable approaches are nullified by the fact that every AI civilization is ruthlessly expansionistic even on the easiest level. On higher difficulty levels, the production and research bonuses mean that the only way to win is conquest/domination or the UN.

      Patrolling: The AI feels the need to move every unit every turn. In end games on huge maps, this can equate to several minutes between turns while the enemy moves (AMD 1.4GHz). The better your visibility of the enemy, the longer it takes.

      In all, it is much more realistic and deep advancement on Civ II. Take a step back and come back to it with fresh eyes. The hype and the wait probably did the same thing to you as it did to me.

      I did take a step back. After soundly defeating the AI in 530 BC on Deity the first week I had the game, I went back and played Civ2 and SMAC just to make sure I wasn't being overly harsh. What I found was that I wasn't being harsh enough. The AI in SMAC is light years beyond Civ3. Different factions with differing goals behave in different fashions while still presenting a challenge. The care and attention to every conceivable detail that's displayed in SMAC compared to Civ3 speaks for itself.

      Is it an OK game? Yes. Is even as good as CTP? No. Was it worth $50? No.

      Civ3 is to Civ2 as X-Com Enforcer is to X-Com Apocalypse.

    9. Re:Civ III by UberOogie · · Score: 2
      No, not really. You have to concentrate on producing mass quantities of cheap 2+ move units. Watch the AI strategy on this. It's very effective. As for realistic, how realistic is it for my mechanized infantry to get slaughtered by jaguar warriors while fortified in my city? Of course I didn't have artillery in the city. It was out in the field trying to bombard an enemy city. The only viable way to use artillery in this game is city defense.

      Don't agree at all. With two solid defnsive units in a city, I've been able to keep away a hoarde of lesser value quick units. Artillery is essential for any city attack after very early in the game. With two whatever seige units, taking cities beomes possible and easy. I suppose our experiences could have been very different, but I can't see how they would be this different.

      I don't feel the resources actually add anything to the game. In a Deity game on standard or smaller maps, a conquest victory is possible somewhen in the vicinity of 0 BC. The only resources that come into play are horses and iron. On a large map, a conquest victory is questionable and on a huge map the only chance of winning is through the UN because the rival civilizations keep respawning.

      But conquest shouldn't be a likely possibility on a large map. How many countries have taken over the world? And of course a small map leads to a quick game. That's the point of a small map.

      The only real effect of culture in the game is borders. Sure, rival cities can convert if you have enough culture, but it's somewhat rare and not reliable. For example, I let a rival civilization build several cities next to my capitol figuring I would have easy time converting them given that I had several wonders and all the infrastructure buildings in my capitol. 50 turns later, one of them finally changes over.

      Culture only comes into play whenthere is a large disparity in the culture values of two countries. If there is a big difference, cities switch all the time. That is how it should be.

      Expansionism, Diplomacy

      Legitmate issues that I hope will be addressed.

      ...On higher difficulty levels, the production and research bonuses mean that the only way to win is conquest/domination or the UN...

      Once again, our experiences seem to be much different, as I've had all victory coniditions under all levels.

      Patrolling

      My machine doesn't have as much iron as yours, and I do not encounter those time problems. Don't know what to say.

      ...Is even as good as CTP? No...

      If you actually believe that, we are going to have to agree to disagree.

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    10. Re:Civ III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had been waiting six years for this game.
      That explains the "european scent" wafting from your general direction.

  9. As much as I hate it ... by Count · · Score: 1

    As much as I hate the X-Box Halo is going to ROCK

    1. Re:As much as I hate it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll wait for PC Halo, thank you. I don't have room for any consoles in my small college dorm, not to mention I only have a 9" TV.

    2. Re:As much as I hate it ... by geekoid · · Score: 2

      how do you know that? have you played the final version? hows the plot? is hte game play intuitive?
      there's nothing like stating you hate something, then raving about it.

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    3. Re:As much as I hate it ... by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      Wait for the PC port.

      Why is everybody so willing to sell out another industry to microsoft, knowing the consequences, when one of the biggest perks of the X-Box to developers is cross-platform compatibility?

      Wait for it, and the Xbox will die, and your favourite games will come to PC.

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    4. Re:As much as I hate it ... by gtdistance · · Score: 1

      From what I've heard, no x-box games will be ported to PC. Microsoft requires that anyone who develops for x-box agrees not to port it to x-box.

      I think the issue is that they don't want developers making 'pc games' for the x-box; They want them to make console games.

    5. Re:As much as I hate it ... by jasonbw · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The guys at bungie said that there would be pc and maybe even mac versions of Halo. How long M$ will keep that little gem boxed up is anyones guess.

    6. Re:As much as I hate it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will probably come out the same time George Lucas releases the original Star Wars trilogy on DVD, i.e. when Hell freezes over..

    7. Re:As much as I hate it ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      right. and lucas'll release TPM on DVD.

      HA!

  10. Golden Sun for GBA by TimeTrip · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is one of the best traditional console RPGS I've played in a LONG time. My current fave it Final Fantasy 5, but this one is catching up. AWESOME graphics, and a huge storyline!

    Check out this review:
    http://pocket.ign.com/reviews/15255.html

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  11. Super Nintendo/PS2 by Transient0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Super Mario Kart 2!!!!!

    please.... somebody, anybody...

    no, neither MarioKart64 or MarioKartAdvance count... trust me, sometimes you just have to be a purist.

    On a slightly more reasonable note, Tony Hawk 3(for PS2) is a pretty fresh pick, and I mean who could get tired of more Tony Hawk(and the character customization is ridiculously cool... nothing is quite as much fun as watching a 3d-modelled person who looks JUST LIKE YOU do a 900 off of an 18-foot ramp and then fall flat on his face, smearing blood everywhere).

    1. Re:Super Nintendo/PS2 by Geeky+Frignit · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hehe...I love the customization features. Tony Hawk in a top hat, big sunglasses, purple vest, red pants, and flippers skating in Canada is utterly hilarious. The game kicks ass too.

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    2. Re:Super Nintendo/PS2 by big_cat79 · · Score: 1

      When I originally heard of the release of The Simpsons Road Rage, I was hoping it would be similar to Mario Kart. Homer shooting donuts and Duff beer oil slicks. Mr. Burns throwing plutonium rods, and toxic waste oil slicks. Oh the possibilities!

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    3. Re:Super Nintendo/PS2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh the crazy taxi wannabe it became :

  12. PS2 : GTA3 by Tek+Neek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know it's mentioned in the story, but Grand Theft Auto 3 is just awesome. You get complete freedom to do whatever your sick twisted mind can think of. Plus the story is pretty non-linear, and the side missions are plentiful.

    1. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by invenustus · · Score: 1

      Is it true that there are now flying vehicles? How did they get away with releasing that after September 11th?

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    2. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by Tek+Neek · · Score: 1

      There is one "flying" vehicle, if you can call it that. It is a plane with the wings torn off, so you can only "fly" it for a very short period of time. I think the record is something like 23 seconds.

      One thing I have heard is that you can "fly" the tank. :) I haven't had the chance to try this yet, but you can supposedly turn the turret around to face the back and the recoil will propel you faster and faster until you take off.

      So, I guess you can take off in some vehicles, but fly, not really.

    3. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flying a tank is nice too. Active the "low gravity" cheat, get a tank and use your canon as afterburner.

    4. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      Well, as someone who recently completed GTA3 and has in fact flown the Dodo (stubby-winged plane), let me tell you that if you don't mind a bit (or a lot) of violence and crave mostly-open-ended action, GTA3 is for you!

      FWIW, the Dodo (and other vehicles when the Dodo flight cheat is used) CAN be flown for extended periods with very careful and small inputs. The Tank just has the added benefit of rocket power!

      GTRacer
      - Steal a cab, deliver fares, and then shoot them (in GTA3, of course)!

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    5. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by Sj0 · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      Probably the same way they would have before September 11th, excersizing freedoms which allow them to create whatever they like.

      Beautiful thing, a free country, where people can do something despite it being politically incorrect.

      If SOME people got their way, all movies with references to the twin towers would be destroyed. That is so goddamn scary.

      We are at war with afganistan. We have always been at war with afganistan. We are allies with britain. We have always been allies with britan.

      If you understand the above paragraph, you understand why I think it's so scary. The mutability of the past is NOT fiction, but a goal that most people and governments seem to strive towards! :(

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    6. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by Tek+Neek · · Score: 1
      - Steal a cab, deliver fares, and then shoot them (in GTA3, of course)!

      Or even better: Pick up a hooker, do your business, and then shoot her. When people see me beat up a hooker, they're always like, "Hey, this game is really violent." But then I tell them, "Hey, it just lets you do whatever you want to do. If you want to be violent, it lets you do that, but if you want to go around saving people in the ambulance or putting out fires, you can do that too!" I just think it's really great how much freedom you have in the game. Fun fun!

    7. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by prentis · · Score: 1

      Well dont blame the people, its easy to get the sheep to go from 4 legs good 2 legs bad to 4 legs good 2 legs better, its their nature.

    8. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by Sj0 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't stop me from being disgusted at how they want everybody to be legally obliged to think what they think.

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    9. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, for a minute there I thought you were talking about some mutant hybrid six-legged sheep with alternately good or evil limbs...

    10. Re:PS2 : GTA3 by mr3038 · · Score: 2
      It is a plane with the wings torn off, so you can only "fly" it for a very short period of time. I think the record is something like 23 seconds.

      Getting the plane off the ground for extended periods of time is easy - controlling it in the air is the hard part. To get off the ground just push the nose down while accelerating on the runway - you really cannot keep it on the ground when the speed is high enough. Remember to pull nose really slow! Try 1st person view if this seems hard. I think you cannot do loop because it goes grazy when trying to to straight up and stalls really easy. Forget about getting more speed by going down too - this is not exactly the flight simulator. I still need to test what happens when you fly away enough from the islands. Of couse, you can just use cheats to fly anything...

      Not counting the missions at the end I really love this game. It's pretty short though and I wouldn't recommend it to kiddies either.

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  13. I want SimSegway from Maxis. . . by Limburgher · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Although, i bet a Sim of several multi-processing systems working together to mimic human balance would require. . . Wait for it. . . A Beowulf cluster of Segways. Speaking of transportation. . .

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  14. Descent by an_mo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Descent 3 is an example of a great game gone forgotten because of bad marketing. The good thing is that you can find it for $9.99.

    1. Re:Descent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      definently, I don't know why noone plays it.
      IMHO it beats all FPS games :) (yes I mean quake and half-life include)

      shades of flame-war ;)

    2. Re:Descent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.
      I think Descent3 would make an awesome xbox port for the upcoming online launch, given the 2 thumbsticks on the controller.

    3. Re:Descent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      descent makes most people sick to the stomach ..

    4. Re:Descent by Liquid(TJ) · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I should check that out. I had framerate poblems with the demo when it was new, but I've got about 3 times the computer now... :)

    5. Re:Descent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude if you get sick from descent than you dont know what your doing :) J/K

      hey thats the whole point of the game

    6. Re:Descent by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 2

      And it doesn't require a supercomputer to play. My K6-II/500 and TNT 1 play it rock solid and pretty.

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  15. The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by carlhirsch · · Score: 5, Funny

    And exactly how smutty is the Sims Hot Date expansion? Personally, I'm hoping for Leisure Suit Larry-ultra.

    Maybe we can get the Linux community to create a Leather Goddesses of Phobos 3-d game.

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    1. Re:The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You're exactly correct. That is the exact question that came to mind immediately. I also like the Leather Goddesses idea. The other thought was the (rather obvious) troll that, for a lot of geeks, that was about as close as most would be getting to a Hot Date anytime soon.

    2. Re:The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, this is a Sim, as in simulation. A suspect most geeks will strike out just as badly in the game as they would in real life.

    3. Re:The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow! Somebody else remembers this game?
      I still have this game for my defunct Mac.
      The jacket cover makes Leisure Suit look tame!

      AC
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    4. Re:The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      It was tame.

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    5. Re:The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by scrytch · · Score: 3, Informative

      > And exactly how smutty is the Sims Hot Date expansion?

      It's still pretty much G-rated. You can turn it up to PG-13 here and to the next level here. The second site is a pay site, but it's cheap -- $3.50 US for 30 days, which is more than enough time to suck down everything on the site.

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    6. Re:The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:The Burning Question Everybody Wants to Know: by dswensen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And exactly how smutty is the Sims Hot Date expansion? Personally, I'm hoping for Leisure Suit Larry-ultra. Maybe we can get the Linux community to create a Leather Goddesses of Phobos 3-d game.

      Look, Sims Hot Date is $29.99. Penthouse will run you about five to six bucks. Just cut out the middle man.

      I'm kidding. I actually own Hot Date, and it's entertaining enough (if a little buggy), but smutty it isn't, at all. Nor, I think, will the Sims ever be, as the "T" rating and lack of tit & ass / power armor / ludicrous gibs / seeing one's own reflection in the blood splattered on the wall from Sodomizer 5000 no doubt helps put Sims in the top ten sales rankings.

      Not that I don't enjoy my Unreal Tournament, but the Sims is a nice change of pace from the usual fare of Decapitator III Online (now with bare-naveled mascot!) or what have you. I can get that kind of stuff anywhere.

  16. There isn't a game coming out that excites me. by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 1

    Where is something like StarCraft II, or WarCraft III? How about Interplay gets over itself, so we can get Never Winter Nights? I own all The Sims expansions, but Hot Date really doesn't appeal to me - it's not all that new, I'd rather see a new game from Maxis than a 3rd expansion to this particular title. Sigh. I'd REALLY like to see either another expansion to SC, or SC II. StarCraft Broodwar STILL lives in my CD Rom drive (Well, it's a DVD but you get the idea) and isn't coming out of it until there is something better.

    DISCLAIMER: I can't play FPS's because I get very very ill when I do. YMMV.

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    1. Re:There isn't a game coming out that excites me. by uncledrax · · Score: 1

      Check out Empire Earth..

      Kinda like an AOE (IE: 'RTS') game, but you go from Prehistoric age, to 'the Nano Age'..

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    2. Re:There isn't a game coming out that excites me. by chaumu · · Score: 1

      I agree. I can't believe Blizzard lets a phenomenal franchise like Starcraft languish. It is hands down the best RTS ever and it's just gathering dust. They need to take a lesson from Westwood (who continues to milk the C&C teet with mixed results) and crank out a sequal.

    3. Re:There isn't a game coming out that excites me. by bleckywelcky · · Score: 1



      Really though, I dunno if StarCraft will ever die anytime soon. It's already going into its 5th year of being one of the most popular RTS games out there. I remember when I got it a little while after the release and began playing it on my dad's brand new 333 MHz system, lol. And since then, I've given it up multiple times in the hopes that I would spend more time on school work, but I always end up coming back to it after a few weeks to a month. It totally rocks. But I do agree that a StarCraft 2 is in due order. I would love to see what Blizzard could do with something like that. The one thing I really don't wanna see is another add-on for StarCraft. BroodWar is good, and I really only play that, but another add-on would stretch the community thin when they are already begging for StarCraft 2.

    4. Re:There isn't a game coming out that excites me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Attention Moderators! Scott Lockwood is a known troll. It is obvious that he is trolling you, can't you see? Please mod down accordingly.

    5. Re:There isn't a game coming out that excites me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, Starcraft is no where near as good as Total Annihilation. Anyway, Warcraft III will be just like Starcraft/Warcraft. Blizzard likes to make the same game over and over, just look at Diablo/DiabloII.

    6. Re:There isn't a game coming out that excites me. by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 1

      You say that like it's a BAD thing...

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  17. New Games? by instinctdesign · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Frankly there is so much going on in the mod scene for Half-Life, UT, and Q3 to get me to go out and pay 40$ for something new that I'll play for a few hours before going back to some of the better mods. (This does not include Counter-Strike in my opinion.) If you want the really cool ideas, check out the Half-Life mod scene. Its amaizing what is being done with a 3(?) year old engine. Aside from that, there is some decent games on the PS2, including Gran Turismo 3 and MGS2. Nothing on X-Box nor the Gamecube is going to get me to buy those, at the moment at least.

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    1. Re:New Games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, where do I look for some good mods?

    2. Re:New Games? by instinctdesign · · Score: 1

      I'm mostly involved in the Half-Life mod scene, though I can reccomend a few I've played for UT. Planet Half-Life is the best place to go for information on mods for Half-Life. A few mods I would suggest for Half-Life would be Front Line Force, Team Fortress Classic (which comes free with Half-Life), or the most popular online game in the world (its very highly rated, though I don't care for the gameplay style, basically team death match) Counter-Strike.

      For Unreal Tornament, check out Infiltration or Strike Force. For a list of mods and general Unreal news check out Planet Unreal.

      I have heard many good things about various Q3 mods, but I have yet to play any of them so someone else would probably be better answering this one.

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  18. Gift Certificate! by nuintari · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get me a gift certificate for final fantasy then, I can wait a day, then bombard the stores and fight my way to aisle containing it. Well have plenty of crowd dodging practice by that time.

    Must admit, my xmas shopping skills are weak this year.

    I always prefered gift cerificates anyways, else my mom will be me a copy of "Who wants to be a billionare (but not really), the video game. Whee, I just looove those gifts.

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    1. Re:Gift Certificate! by Shadowlion · · Score: 1

      Well have plenty of crowd dodging practice by that time.

      Don't forget to strafe! And definitely remember that you can do heat shots on your fellow shoppers to get through the queues faster!

    2. Re:Gift Certificate! by L-Train8 · · Score: 1

      I always prefered gift cerificates anyways, else my mom will be me a copy of "Who wants to be a billionare (but not really), the video game. Whee, I just looove those gifts

      What do you mean? The nice salesman at CompUSA said this game with Regis is so popular. All the kids love it these days. And I know how much you like your computer thing-a-ma-jigs, so I knew you'd love it too.

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    3. Re:Gift Certificate! by nuintari · · Score: 2

      Strafe? Hell with that, just gimme the nail gun...... I think your average shopper has less armor than us quake fiends!

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    4. Re:Gift Certificate! by nuintari · · Score: 2

      ....ball is in, parking lot, would you like to play again? *BEEP* you have selected, no.

      or in this case.

      That's it, you have a hundred dollars, would you like to try for 200? *CLICK* alright, he's staying with the 100 dollars, don't go away folks, we'll be back to play some more "Who wanmts to be a gazillionaire!" *eject CD from drive, throw accross room, apply high powered magnet to hard drive....*

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    5. Re:Gift Certificate! by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

      You evil terroist hackers. I can't wait until W. outlaws you fuckers.

    6. Re:Gift Certificate! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gift certificate? Cool! It's like money, but with an expiration date!

  19. Return to Castle Wolfenstein by waffle+zero · · Score: 1

    RTCW is definitely worth a look. I'm not saying that the any or all of it is original but it's a nice and tight package. A great throwback to Wolf 3D, with topnotch graphics (Q3A engine), and a killer multiplayer mode reminicent of Half-Life: Counter Strike.

    That and the leather clad Elite Guard women in single player.

  20. Have you played Ico yet? by Nelson · · Score: 3, Informative
    It's pretty cool. Not the longest game in the world but the graphics are amazingly fluid and it's entertaining. It's not your run of the mill sports game or shoot 'em up, you've got to do a lot of exploring to beat it. I highly recommend it if you havne't played it yet. Check out Ico.



    Also that scooter has two wheels, side-by-side, I've been wondering why it hasn't been posted on the front page yet.

    1. Re:Have you played Ico yet? by JArneaud · · Score: 1
      Believe it or not I actually bought a PS2 to play ICO after initially renting it (and the PS2) from Blockbuster. The other PC and Playstation games that I had lying around (including FF9, Max Payne & Metal Gear Solid 2) just sat around, unplayed until I had finished ICO (twice!). What's even more amazing is that this is supposedly the first game by a internal Sony team...

      Pros:
      - the visuals and environmental sounds are simply stunning, you'll find yourself running around just taking it all in
      - the puzzles aren't TOO hard, but contain enough variety to keep you interested
      - did I mention how amazing the visuals were?
      - game design that uses the absolute minimum amount of characters, music and speech to tell a completely engrossing story

      Cons:
      - the game is very short, maybe 9 hours for my first run through and definitely less than 4 hours from start to finish once you know what you're doing
      - almost zero replayability, all of the puzzle locations and solutions are the same, every time through (although, I still feel that I got my money's worth)

      Links to two different reviews:
      - IGN
      - Penny Arcade

      More reviews from the amazing Google.

    2. Re:Have you played Ico yet? by MonkeyBoy · · Score: 1

      One cannot mention Ico and Penny Arcade without mentioning another link to Penny Arcade.

      Ico is kinda interesting, but very damned annoying at a couple points. Zero replayability gets in it's way too. Frankly, I rented it from Blockbuster and *finished* it, playing only an hour or two each night.

      In other words, a very good rental, but a bad purchase.

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      Moof!

  21. A little after but... by bbk · · Score: 2

    Rez is coming out for PS2 sometime in january. It's a rail shooter (like panzer dragoon) with graphics similar to ones you'ld find in an MP3 visualization, and electronic music that responds to your play style. The gameplay is amazing, and the music kicks ass, and unlike most shooters, It doesn't get booring the 10th time through. Here's some more info: http://www.thegia.com/psx2/rez/rez.html

    If you really want something before christmas, a Dreamcast + 4 games will set you back under $100. Most games on it look as good as other consoles and cost 1/4 what they do...

    BBK

    1. Re:A little after but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I completely agree. After playing the DC import, I can honestly say that Rez is the best DC game I've played all year. Similarly, I would expect the PS2 version to kick liberal amounts of ass.

    2. Re:A little after but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      graphics similar to ones you'ld find in an MP3 visualization,



      You mean graphics similar to a demo, don't you? MP3 visualizations are just ripoffs of old demo effects.

    3. Re:A little after but... by 13Echo · · Score: 1

      Without a doubt, the Dreamcast is the best deal in gaming right now. Though there aren't a whole lot of new domestic games on the way, there are lots of great imports.

      I suggest that DC players order the European versions of Shenmue 2 and Headhunter.

      For $9.99 you can also get spectacular games like Jet Grind Radio, Virtua Tennis, and Crazy Taxi. Virtua tennis has logged in as much time at my house as some RPGs. Some people might think that it sounds like a silly game, but it is one of the most enjoyable games that I have EVER played. There are also lots of things to unlock which really makes it a highly replayable game. It's well worth $9.99.

      Skies of Arcadia is an RPG that will eventually make it's way to other consoles, but I urge everyone to pick it up for it's $30 price point. It is one of the greatest console RPGs ever created. The game is so lighthearted and fun, and ditches the dark and depressing formula of most RPGs (Final Fantasy) in favor of more fun characters and plot. The game has it's share of dark plot twists though. Give it a chance. It looks sily, but is totally sweet.

      If sports is your thing, then you've come to the right place. The Dreamcast is probably the best sports game console. The NFL and NBA games are a lot of fun, even if you aren't a sports fan. Test Drive Le Mans is also an excellent game. I feel that it challenges Gran Turismo 3 in terms of beauty (detail is more environment oriented than toward the cars.) Unfortunately, it doesn't have the tweakability, but the game is fast paced, beautiful, and fun.

      The Dreamcast is also the console for unique games, like Chu Chu Rocket, Ooga Booga, Jet Grind Radio, and Space Channel 5. All of these games are priced to move, too.

  22. Here's the list I gave to my family: by bravehamster · · Score: 2
    If you can afford it:

    X-box w/ Halo, Oddworld, and Project Gotham Racing

    PC Games (listed in order of desire):

    Return to Castle Wolfenstein
    Aliens vs Predator 2
    Civ3
    Sims - Hot Date
    Mechwarrior4 -Black Knight
    Empire Earth

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    1. Re:Here's the list I gave to my family: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever played Project Gotham Racing? It blows big monkey chunks.

      I'm not impressed with anything on the X-Box personally, but at least some of the games (Halo) leave room for debate. Project Gotham Racing, however, just sucks. Save the money for something else ... anything else...

  23. PS2 / PC Games by Captain_Frisk · · Score: 5, Informative
    PS2 Wise I would recommend the following:
    • Grand Theft Auto 3 - Amazing
    • Metal Gear Solid 2 - Has its ups and downs, but pretty cool
    Reviews have been good on the following:
    • SSX Tricky
    • Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3
    • Ico
    • Devil May Cry

    PC Wise the only thing that I have played civilization 3, and its good, but might not be for everyone.

    I'm also probably going to pick up the often discussed Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

    In a related note, does anyone know of any good party style games for the PS2? I really enjoyed Smash Brothers on the N64, but don't want to pick up a new system just for the 1 game, so I was hoping that there was a similar, multiplayer, simple PS2 game out there my girlfriend might be able to play.

    Thanks,

    Captain_Frisk

    1. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Ngeran · · Score: 1

      If you have a Dreamcast (or even if you don't... They're dirt cheap now) a good game that rivals Smash Bros. for just plain fun in a fighting game is Powerstone 2. My co-workers and I have literally devoted entire evenings to playing this game. Get a case of your favorite bubbly beverage, a few friends, and Powerstone 2, and you'll be set.

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    2. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try buying a dreamcast with Power Stone 1 and 2
      cost ya bout a hunred even with tax, and the two games share quite a lot with Super-smash brothers. They have awesome four-player action and a cool single-player "adventure" mode to collect interesting and powerful items.

    3. Re:PS2 / PC Games by withak53 · · Score: 1

      Capcom vs SNK 2 is probably the most similar to super smash brothers for PS2

      Other games that aren't really similar but I like to play with friends are:
      TimeSplitters
      NHL 2001 (although I hear NHL Hits is good)
      DOA2

    4. Re:PS2 / PC Games by mudder · · Score: 1

      Try Dance Dance REvolution. Yeah it sounds stupid, and you always end up looking like an uncoordinated freak, but it makes a great party gaem. You just have to convince people to try it once.

    5. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Steev · · Score: 1

      Know where I can pick up 2 pads and a game CD for the Dreamcast? I'd be *very* interested in picking this up...

    6. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try ye ol' EBay.... I got pads for my PSX off there... 2 for $30 with the shipping... not a bad deal and they work decently... they take getting used to just like the ones do at the arcade.

    7. Re:PS2 / PC Games by BMonger · · Score: 1

      While I don't have any reccommendations don't forget that your PS2 can play PSX games. A lot of my friends have PS2's and for some reason are not aware of this or just forget about this. There are a *ton* of PSX games out there. I'm sure something will suit her fancy...

    8. Re:PS2 / PC Games by amuro98 · · Score: 1

      There is a Smash Brothers Collection for the PS1, which works fine on the PS2.

      It includes ports of all the arcade games.

      I haven't seen it in stores, and had to order it from EBWorld.com. Was about $20.

    9. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Ondo · · Score: 1

      www.RedOctane.com sells a ton of DDR stuff, but the only Dreamcast DDR game out is an import, and they don't have it. :( They've got the pads though.

    10. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My wife and I were recently browsing through the local Best Buy, and she found something called CookiesandCream for PS2.

      In a nutshell, this is exactly what you're looking for. Up to 4 people can play (2 people can share a controller!). The basic idea is that the screen is split in half by a vertical divider, and each player (or team) is racing from the bottom to the top. The catch is that you're really only trying to beat the clock, and the players have to help each other. I.e., the left player has to pull a rope that pulls an alligator out of the path of the right player, and the right player has to launch a catapult to launch a cabbage into the water in front of the left player so that a hippo will come and eat it and the left player can hitch a ride on it.

      It's hopelessly cheesy at first; I was tempted to try to return it after the first 15 minutes. However, once you're into it, it's a blast to play. Even more importantly, my wife, who has literally never played a video game before in her life, picked up the controls pretty quickly and is now a pretty competent partner.

      See if you can demo it at your local game store. If you can get past the goofy into and the Fisher-Price graphics, you'll love it, and your girlfriend will appreciate you bringing something home that she can play with you.

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    11. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Cutriss · · Score: 2

      There are actually two DDR games for the Dreamcast - There's DDR 2nd Mix, which is essentially a compilation of 2nd Mix and 3rd Mix arcade. Then there's DDR Club Version.

      And something else you probably didn't know - There's a DDR game for the N64 - Konami released Disney's Rave for the N64 in Japan, further pigeonholing the N64 as a kiddie machine, unfortunately. Of course, given the news blurb on Penny Arcade today, Winback was a N64-only title for a while, and it clearly was a bit more grown up than it maybe should have been. :)

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      "Mod, mod, mod...and another troll bites the dust."
    12. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go! Cyber Shop has hands down the best prices for dance pads anywhere (aside from possibly ebay, but 2 new for $36cdn vs 2 used for $30US == better deal always) They've got a dreamcast dance mat for $24cdn (~$16us), and for you rich kids, a solid dance platform for $111cdn, $72us.. You'll have to find your own game disc, these guys dont sell software.

      I wish I remembered my password, I dont like AC automodding.

    13. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Popocatepetl · · Score: 1

      I want to get a PS2 just for Twisted Metal Black. I liked the first game, and I *really* liked the second game, but Twisted Metal 3 was terrible. I've heard that the last Twisted Metal was bad as well, but I've heard very good things about this game so I want to try it out.

    14. Re:PS2 / PC Games by JArneaud · · Score: 1
      I'm quite new to console gaming (my recent PS2 purchase is the first console that I've ever owned) and I'm having a great time playing old PS1 titles along with the new PS2 games (just remember to get a PS1 memory card, because the old games can't use the new PS2 memory cards).

      I'm currently playing through Final Fantasy IX and hope to have that finished by the time FF X comes out at the end of the year. Recent news about the Resident Evil movie has me thinking that I should give a few of those titles a try as well.

      My local crack-dealer^H^H^H^H^H^H^H game store also has used Dreamcasts... perfect for some Crazy Taxi and Shenmue huh? I worry that this whole "console" thing is an addiction that grows. eeeeeeek.

    15. Re:PS2 / PC Games by Chazmyrr · · Score: 1

      GTA3: Buy it. Best. Game. Ever.
      MGS2: Rent it. The gameplay, what there was of it, was good. The story was a mixed bag. It started out well, but somehow devolved into Jerry Springer crossed with a truly terrible spy novel. Eye candy aside, MGS was much better.
      Devil May Cry: Buy it. I can't say enough good things about this game.

      In a related note, does anyone know of any good party style games for the PS2?

      Try Gauntlet: Dark Legacy.

  24. MGS2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MGS2 had a rediculous story.

    www.penny-arcade.com had a good take on it.

  25. PC, PS2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PC:
    Startopia (Sims-like theme game but Sci Fi)
    Return to Castle Wolfenstein (1st-person shooter)
    Star Monkey & Space Tripper (shareware old-school shooters)
    Independence War 2 ("elite"-style space combat)

    PS2:
    Grand Theft Auto 3 (driving, shooting, mugging)
    Jak & Daxter (cute platform/adventure)
    MGS2 (if you like watching movies)

    Dump any of the titles into Google to get a URL...

    1. Re:PC, PS2 by LighthouseJ · · Score: 1

      Grand Theft Auto 3 (driving, shooting, mugging)

      Don't forget the protitution and drive-by's in GTA3.

      Also, 007: Agent Under Fire is pretty cool, you get Goldeneye-esque FPS combined with NFS+shooting/killing driving experiences. The only bad part about the game is the automatic aim (which aims to enemies if you are within an inch of them) is hard to move around. You have to use both analog pads to aim. Although, you can manual aim and it reverts to the U64 Goldeneye style.

      I have to check out Project Gotham Racing, looks pretty good in what I've seen of it.

  26. ICO (PS2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ICO is a pretty sweet game. It's short, it's minimalist, and it's beautiful. A bit hard to describe, but not unlike the Price of Persia games. If you want more info there's a review over at http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/reviews/0,108 67,2815038,00.html.

    -Adam

    1. Re:ICO (PS2) by funkhauser · · Score: 1

      I found ICO a little underwhelming. The graphics are beautiful and the character animations were very impressive, but the gameplay just sort of dragged along for me.

  27. Gladiator (Pinball) by FatRatBastard · · Score: 2

    ...on a Gottlieb machine :)

    Or some 8 Ball Deluxe, or some GnR Pinball...

    Forget consol games, go for some old fashioned pinball this Xmas. Yer index fingers will love you for it.

    1. Re:Gladiator (Pinball) by Rob+Parkhill · · Score: 1

      Yesiree, I'm waiting on delivery of my Hurricane right now. Joy of joys.

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      "Tomorrow's forecast: a few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!" - Stewie Griffin
    2. Re:Gladiator (Pinball) by beerits · · Score: 1

      "Or some 8 Ball Deluxe, or some GnR Pinball... "

      Guns 'n Roses finally have a pinball game out! Great, I can't wait for some 'November Rain' action with Slash and Axel at my local arcade.

    3. Re:Gladiator (Pinball) by FatRatBastard · · Score: 1

      Guns 'n Roses finally have a pinball game out!

      I assume this comment was tounge in cheek, but if not, the GnR Pinball game came out at least 8 years ago. Has some wicked multiball. Thankfully a friend of mine has it. Lots o' Free Play!!!!!

  28. Nostalgia... by McSnickered · · Score: 1

    This just got me thinking about some of my most memorable Christmas gifts. In 1978 we got Pong and played that thing to death. And then in 1982 we got my favorite computer of all time - the TI/99 4A. That's when I really got interested in programming. Thanks again Dad!

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    They call me the working man. I guess that's what I am.
    1. Re:Nostalgia... by British · · Score: 2

      SPeaking of TI-994/A, I could spend hours playing Tunnels of Doom. They should port that to Palm.

    2. Re:Nostalgia... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anyone knows where I can find a copy of Tunnels of Doom (rom, whatever), please post it in here. My cousin had tht game and I just loved it.

  29. Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds (PC) by MooRogue · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even though it's done by Microsoft, I'm a big fan of the Age of Empires series. I thought Star Wars, Galactic Battlegrounds looked good enough to play.

    Basically, it's AOE2 with Star Wars themed races, units, etc. with all the graphics, Y-wing fighters, and sounds.

    I'll probably pick it up once i'm done with my second round through MGS2!

    Oh, and a review of the game can be found at http://pc.ign.com/reviews/15959.html

    1. Re:Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds (PC) by gnookie · · Score: 1

      dude, you gotta check out the demo. I'm a big AOE2 fan/player as well, and the demo for SWGB is very disappointing... they seem to take AOE2, slap star wars graphics on it, then ass-ify it. The fighting units are hard(er) to control, you can't (at least in the demo) get them to stand their ground and do nothing/not attack.

      I really wanted to get it, even after reading GameSpot's review, but now, I don't think I will.. at least not for $50 freakin dollars.

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    2. Re:Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds (PC) by JojoLinkyBob · · Score: 1

      I highly recommend this game. For what's it worth, I've never really been turned onto to strategy games before, but my passion for Star Wars is what baited me. Now I play this game almost religiously. Not really a big fan of military or medieval strategy, but sci-fi makes it very fun.

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      -jc
    3. Re:Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds (PC) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard mixed reviews, but someone I know has been playing this non-stop and he's really enjoying it.

      It's "OK" but then again, I've been gaming for 8 years!.

    4. Re:Star Wars - Galactic Battlegrounds (PC) by bje2 · · Score: 1

      the real version of the game is much improved over them demo...

      ...you need to turn on the advanced unit commands (plus sign on the console), this allows you to make units guard a particular building, patrol a particular aread, etc...including do nothing/not attack....

      ...it's on sale for $35 Best Buy...

      - brian

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      "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
  30. Shenmue II by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

    I work for a university and we have the week between Christmas and New Year's off. I just ordered a European Shenmue II for my Dreamcast and figure most of that week will be taken up wandering around Hong Kong with Ryo.

    1. Re:Shenmue II by Highlordexecutioner · · Score: 1

      And where did you order this from and can it be shipped to the U.S.?

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    2. Re:Shenmue II by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

      I ordered it from therage.com for $50. Tronix has it on back order for the same price. One thing to keep in mind is that your Shenmue save can be used to start the game, but it has to be transferred into a PAL format. Hit IGN for instructions on how to do it...

    3. Re:Shenmue II by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

      BTW, I got my copy yesterday and booted it up using the Gameshark CDX (not sure about the Lite version) and the thing works just fine - no NTSC/PAL television issues. Now I have to work on translating my American NTSC Shenmue save file to the European PAL format so Shenmue II sees it (just need more time).

  31. Uplink by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.introversion.co.uk

  32. I asked for Uplink by edremy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Yes, you've never heard of it. Available only from the website

    But /. folks should love it- it's a hacking simulator. Break into computers, copy or trash data, delete logs, break bank computers to get funds, create fake credentials... Who, me amoral?

    Highly idealized, of course, but the basic ideas are sound. There's a short demo available-sold me on the idea.

    Eric

    --
    "Seven Deadly Sins? I thought it was a to-do list!"
    1. Re:I asked for Uplink by majestyk2000 · · Score: 0

      That's cool as crap! Thanks for the link...

    2. Re:I asked for Uplink by Leareth · · Score: 1

      Played it, enjoyed it, work as the Network admin for my local office... scared (briefly) my cowerkers...

      them "What are you doing?"
      me "trashing the logs on some bank..."
      them "..."

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    3. Re:I asked for Uplink by FireballFreddy · · Score: 1
      Break into computers, copy or trash data, delete logs, break bank computers to get funds, create fake credentials...

      Hmm... does Ender's Game spring to mind for anyone else?

      Imagine the unknowing parents of a 7-year-old:

      "Look dear, little Timmy just pretend-hacked into the FBI! Ooh, he's applied the pretend-rootkit for permanent access, and added us to the pretend-list of known terrorists! He even cleaned up after himself! I'm so proud of him!"

      :)

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      SQUEAK, the Death of Rats explained.
    4. Re:I asked for Uplink by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 2

      I've been pretty happy with Uplink -- this game is the best hacking-type game I've played since the old Neuromancer computer game. As an added bonus, you get both Windows and Linux versions for only $25 or so.

    5. Re:I asked for Uplink by waterhouse · · Score: 1
      If you like Neuromancer-esque freelancer hacking games, I would advise you to check out Shadowrun for the Genesis (not the SNES version). It has an entertaining reproduction of the Shadowrun matrix rules and can be extremely fun at times. It lacks the depth of Neuromancer, but gives you more freedom. That game has to be, overall, one of the first and the best examples of a freelance game ever developed for a console system.

      Oh and of course, if you haven't played it, go to home of the underdogs and pick up Wing Commander: Privateer, which is probably the best freelancing game ever made. Truly a delight.

    6. Re:I asked for Uplink by dfwmountainbiker · · Score: 1

      I must say, uplink is quite a fun game. Its cleanly done, and interesting. The only minor beef with it is the lack of typing..... where are my multiple windows and prompts? ha ha. Otherwise, thanks for the suggestion of this game!!!

    7. Re:I asked for Uplink by TGK · · Score: 2

      I've been impressed with Uplink but find that the game is not nearly so interesting as the various "secrets" built into the game. Check out the Misc directory on the CD. Gamebible.zip is worth a look.

      Also... should you ever get the chance to play thermonuclear warfare, look behind your trace tracker for the close button... this sounds cryptic but you'll thank me later.

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      No trees were killed in the creation of this post. However, many electrons were inconvenienced.
  33. For those dungeon divers on your list by cecil36 · · Score: 1

    Get them Ultima Online or Everquest along with prepaid access. Or if you are cheap, get them the Diablo Battle Chest or Diablo 2 + expansion.

    1. Re:For those dungeon divers on your list by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      A real dungeon diver would love the 2 arcade D&D games (Towers of Doom and Shadow of Mystara (spelling?))that play on MAME :-) Those are quite fun and _free_
      happy gaming

    2. Re:For those dungeon divers on your list by Diomedes01 · · Score: 1

      I would recommend Dark Age of Camelot over Everquest any day! I just got this game a few weeks ago, and it's incredible!

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      "To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking: Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"
    3. Re:For those dungeon divers on your list by heptapod · · Score: 1

      Phoo! Who needs 32 bit graphics! Get nethack and give that to someone this holiday season.

  34. Metal Gear ...what? by OblongPlatypus · · Score: 2
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  35. PC: Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds by cporter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Based on the Age of Empires II Engine, but in the Star Wars universe...

    See the LucasArts page on it

  36. PLAYSTATION: Don't overlook cheap shit. by Matt2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I'm picking up playstation games now that are only 1 year or less out of date and having a wicked time. Everyone knows what the best games are, so you're guaranteed to get something good, and they don't cost more than $20 usually. Here are my picks:

    NHL 2001
    Driver (obviously)
    Ape Escape (a crazy 3D platform game, amazing design)
    Grand Turismo

    If you're looking at getting laid off like me, you can pick up a playstation super cheap and get games galore for nothing. Look into it.

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  37. check a.b.w.i.g by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for eval only*

  38. For the pc... by Aiee · · Score: 2, Informative

    Personally, I'm not too fond of consoles, but I've heard good things about GTA3. On the PC, the most obvious thing to mention would be Castle Wolfenstein, which I spotted in the stores the other day. Judging from the popularity of the multiplayer test, it's going to be ripped off the shelves. I've heard some people complain about the AI, but personally, I'd much rather play multiplayer anyway.

    For strategy-lovers, there's always Stronghold.A realtively new game from firefly studios, stronghold mixes bits of the fighting from age of Empire with the resource management from the settlers and adds some spicy caste-building extras on top. It may not be everyones cup of tea, but I find it very enjoyable.

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  39. Myst III: Exile (windows) by echoSpades · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure about other people but I am all over this. And I like the idea of the realtime rendered version of Myst but I am bit more timmid about that than Exile.

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    "They're either a benefit or a hazard. If they're a benefit, they're not my problem." --Deckard
  40. Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Civilization III by carlcmc · · Score: 1
    I recently purchased both of these games, and what I refer to as the mad-wife-quotient is of the chart for both of these.



    For those unfamiliar with the mad-wife-qoutient, its fairly intuitive. The better the game, the more time you play, the less time you spend with your wife and the MADDER she gets! =)



    While some have complained about Wolfenstein being a bit too linear, the wide open areas are quite nice and breathtaking with the fogging effects.

    I Just purchased my copy of Civ III last night at Sam's Club. I played from 6:30 to 2:30 this morning. Only on chieftan but having a blast as the greecians wiping the tech chart up. I'm a tech kind of guy. The barter system is absolutely cool, although I wished there was an easier way to get +nutrient resources on tundra (dream on i suppose.) then elk.

  41. My list based on what systems you have by gergi · · Score: 2

    PC: Civilization 3, Return To Castle Wolfenstein, Commandos2, Tribes 2
    PS2: Metal Gear Solid 2, Devil May Cry, Grand Theft Auto3
    GameCube: Super Smash Brother Melee, Rogue Squadron 2, Super Monkey Ball, Waverace
    XBox: A severe beating and maybe Halo

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  42. Virtual Sociologist by nsample · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'm looking to get a copy of the hot new Sim "Virtual Sociologist". In it you post messages on a simulated message board, and attempt to garner "karma" in attempt to rule the world.

  43. Oh Yeah... i forgot... by Transient0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The best thing about the super-customizable characters is the ability to put your favorite PHB on a skateboard and drive him into the bucket of molten steel on the Foundry level...

  44. All I want is stuff from ThinkGeek. by strredwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    'Nuff said.

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    1. Re:All I want is stuff from ThinkGeek. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give me a place to mail the money and you will be well on your way to getting your teeth kicked in for free! My treat! :-)

  45. Sid Meier by Nick · · Score: 1

    Gettysburg, Antietam. Fun games for the civil war buff/strategist. Pretty cheap and runs on older computers. Multiplay is exceptionally fun.

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  46. The Sims Hot Date. by ellem · · Score: 5, Funny

    My wife plays the SIMS because she is a control freak and she can push them SIMmy types all around (you know for when I'm not home.) ;)

    I for one can't get into a game where I have to get up, take a shower, eat breakfast, clean up, go to work, come home, watch TV, read a book, go to bed... I already do that. I prefer SIMS that let me do stuff I don't do everyday like racing SIMS or flying SIMS... (MicroSoft Train Simulator? Simulate your commute? WHAT?!)

    Anylou...

    I played this dating game in the hopes that I could make a really slutty girl. But it sucks. I played for about 8 total hours. My girl just cries all the time about her neighbor and won't have sex with any of the prospects I try to pick up with her at the bar I built. I wish there was a shallow grave option in BUILD MODE.

    Ugh! Talk --> About Interests, Talk --> Gossip, Kiss --> Peck

    I'm waiting for The SIMS Fetish Pack to come out so I can tie this girl to a water pipe in a basement somewhere and walk away from the computer for a week.

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    1. Re:The Sims Hot Date. by pi_rules · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have a younger brother that sounds alot like you. He once made a town of lesbians in the original Sims game. Apparently it takes a long time but he had three houses in his town each occupied by a lesbian couple. I can only imagine what happened when one would go underwater in the hot-tub.

      Ho hum...

    2. Re:The Sims Hot Date. by scrytch · · Score: 2

      > I wish there was a shallow grave option in BUILD MODE.

      Build the smallest pool possible. Stick unwanted sims in pool. Remove ladder. You can even sell the resulting tombstones for 50 simoleans a pop.

      > I'm waiting for The SIMS Fetish Pack to come out so I can tie this girl to a water pipe in a basement somewhere and walk away from the computer for a week.

      Look no further

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    3. Re:The Sims Hot Date. by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Funny
      I played this dating game in the hopes that I could make a really slutty girl. But it sucks.

      Isn't that the whole idea?

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    4. Re:The Sims Hot Date. by doublem · · Score: 2

      "I wish there was a shallow grave option"

      There is.

      Just build four walls around her so she can't get to any food, hygiene or anything else.

      Or, have her take a dip in the pool, then remove all the ladders so she can't get out.

      :)

      Soon, you'll have a nice urn for the mantle.

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    5. Re:The Sims Hot Date. by albamuth · · Score: 5, Funny
      You think that's bad? My ex-girlfriend from a year ago was positively obsessed with the Sims. The worst aspect was that she made exact replicas of all her friends, her and myself included. She even had every single Sim's zodiac sign match our real ones!

      Guess what happened when we started dating? Our Sims moved in together. Argument in real life? Temper tantrum expressed via my sim has to sleep on the dreadful Comfort: 2 couch.

      Guess what happened when we broke up? My sim moves out. She gets back together with her old boyfriend (who I maliciously drowned in a pool at the start of our relationship...er, I mean, his Sim!) so she remakes him and moves him in. She changes apartments -- her sim-house changes. I had to beg her to make a door in the room in which my Sim was locked up...fortunately I, I mean, my Sim is still alive.

      After about six months of that (and playing with all the fan-made skins and things) I had to walk away from the sims. However, my worldview was scarred forever...

      Please, if you're going to get someone a PC game this Christmas, make sure that it in NO WAY resembles reality.

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    6. Re:The Sims Hot Date. by Magius_AR · · Score: 1
      Shallow grave build option? It's simple. Build a pool, have her swim in it, remove the ladder before she gets out. Wait until satisfied :)

      Magius_AR

  47. Wizardry 8! (and wizardry Gold) by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you want a very high-quality game, go for Wizardry 8. Not only will it take a long time to fonish, but it is feature-rich, entertaining (sometimes downright funny!), and completely enjoyable.

    As a bonus you could first purchase Wizardry Gold for cheap, play it for a good hundred hours, then import your party to Wiz 8 and start from there.

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    1. Re:Wizardry 8! (and wizardry Gold) by donweel · · Score: 1

      I played the origanal wizardries for many hours on apple ][ and am delighted with wiz 8, it is an order of magnatude better. Baldurs Gate SOA was the best till this one came along. You can start from scratch, but be prepared to run.

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    2. Re:Wizardry 8! (and wizardry Gold) by GreenKiwi · · Score: 1

      For anyone who loves RPGs and other fantasy games, this is a must have!

      Go out and get this for yourself or for anyone else who you know loves these games.

      Game play is great. The user interface is excellent, and the graphics are wonderful.

  48. Re:First Post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    * BLAM! *

    Yeah, you got it...

  49. Wizardry 8. A great rpg for the PC. by Serra · · Score: 1
    I got this game a couple of weeks ago and it is wonderful. It is hard to find good plot driven rpgs lately, but Wizardry 8 has been keeping me up nights. :)

    Oh, and I think its only avalible from Electronics Boutique. I tried to get it at Best Buy and they told me that they had never heard of it.

  50. Metal Gear Stupid by Refrag · · Score: 1

    I was very psyched about getting MGS2 on the PS2, after having played and loved MGS on the PS. I bought it, played it for a few hours and decided that is was very, very boring in comparison to MGS. Penny Arcade corrorborates my story that MGS2 sucks.

    I just noticed that they used the same title for their comic as I did for this post -- weird.

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    1. Re:Metal Gear Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The beginning of metal gear 2 rules. That's the only thing you see in commercials and stuff. That's what sells the game. The second part, which starts out like a whole new game, sucks! Too many movies!

  51. Super Smash Bros. Melee by Kuroyi · · Score: 1

    Round up some friends and play till your fingers bleed..

    1. Re:Super Smash Bros. Melee by BassGuy23 · · Score: 0

      Where can I get it? Everyplace insists that it's not released until tomorrow (Dec 4) or the next day (Dec 5!), even though Nintendo.com and ign.com say it was supposed to come out today. What's the deal with that? Everyone in town claims that it hasn't arrived yet and it's really pissing me off! I want my SMASH!

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    2. Re:Super Smash Bros. Melee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      check online.. I heard that it came out tomorrow as well.

  52. X-Box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What ever you can get.

    X-Box rules!

    Way to go MS.

  53. Re:PLAYSTATION: Don't overlook cheap shit. by Limburgher · · Score: 1

    Absolutely. NEVER overlook cheap shit. THe vast majority of my non-opensource software was purchased out of a discount bin for between $.50 and $10, all top-quality. It was also the only stuff I could run for awhile, till my main box got a serious upgrade. I mean, ten bucks for Carmageddon 2, with Carmageddon 1 included free.

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  54. Wizardry 8 by SirSlud · · Score: 2

    Gamespot gave it a 9.1, even tho it was developed 2 years ago (or just finished in May or something). 60 hours of gameplay, and its already being talked about as RPG of the year by many sites. Go to ebworld.com .. they have exclusive distribution rights for the first 30 days of sale?

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    1. Re:Wizardry 8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard praise for this game left and right, but I can't find it in stores! Everyplace I ask about it, I'm told "We chose not to carry that title. Not sure why. Have you tried over at @#$%'s place?"

      WHAT GIVES?

    2. Re:Wizardry 8 by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 1

      Try Electronics Botique. It should be avail. online.

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  55. Tony Hawk 3 Internet Multiplayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I read on IGN not too long ago that someone was able to hook up a USB ethernet NIC to their PS2, configure it, and then was able to connect to multiplayer servers for Tony Hawk 3 -- I assume there is some menu option in TH3 to play multiplayer games? If so, PS2 has an edge (for the timebeing), since multiplayer games via the net add an extra serving of playability.

    1. Re:Tony Hawk 3 Internet Multiplayer by Hagakure · · Score: 1

      Yah, you can play online with up to 4 players in a multitude of games (Slap, King of the Hill, Graffiti and Free Skate, mebbe more?) on any of the maps in the game (not Custom Parks though). If you wanna learn how to get your PS2 online and which USB NICs are supported, check out Planet Tony Hawk, easily the best resource for THPS related information. No LAN play as of yet, unfortunately. Maybe there'll be a nice hack for that soon.

      I'm still stuck playing THPS3 on PSX (which blows, btw) but I'm eagerly hoping my girlfriend can take a hint (as in my daily "I want a PS2 for xmas!" rant) and I won't have to suffer any longer.

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    2. Re:Tony Hawk 3 Internet Multiplayer by Bartacus · · Score: 1
      Yep, there is support for up to four players online with THPS3. They're using GameSpy to view the servers/lobbies.

      I'm using the LinkSys USB100TX behind Linux IP Masquerading to a cable modem, and it works beautifully!

      There are options for PPoE if don't have a static IP, or DHCP, or you just want to plug directly into your Cable or DSL modems.

      The supported ethernet devices are:

      LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 USB Network Adapter USB100TX

      D-Link DSB-650TX USB Ethernet Adapter

      SMC EZNET-USB 2102 USB

      SOHOware 10/100 Mbps USB Ethernet Adapter NUB100

      ...and the supported USB modems are:

      Zoom FaxModem 56K USB Model 2985L

      USB Pocket 56K NetSurfer NMT00700

      MultiTech Systems MultiModemUSB MT5634ZBA-USB

      Actiontec Call Waiting USB Modem USB56012-01CW

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  56. Wizardry 8 by durvish · · Score: 1

    Conspicuously absent is Wizardry 8...Why is that? The series has claimed weeks of my free time.

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  57. Suggestions by Arandir · · Score: 2

    Myst III: Exile. A sequel to Myst I, with a Riven (Myst II) feel, and an actual plot! Graphics are cool (realistic panoramic view). Brad Dourif is your thoroughly wicked and entertaining antagonist.

    Civilization III: Addicting. Addicting. Addicting. Just two more turns and I'll go to bed. Okay, just two more turns and I'll turn off the alarm clock telling me to get up. A major evolutionary (not revolutionary) update to Civ II. Diplomacy actually works. Conquering the world is damn near impossible.

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  58. Everquest + Luclin Expansion by xinu · · Score: 1

    I'm an addict so I gotta say it. Everquest! Luclin comes out tomorrow and has some steep min req for playing. Like 512Meg memory and a GeForce 2... The screenshots are amazing. And the playability of the game will go on and on and on. But if you got a gaming machine get the Everquest Trilogy + Luclin + 3 months of prepaid online card...

    1. Re:Everquest + Luclin Expansion by tundog · · Score: 1

      Woot! This game is Uber!

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  59. Tribes 2 for Team oriented Multiplayer FPS lovers by ForsakenRegex · · Score: 2, Informative

    After overcoming my initial inability to master
    the games movement style (which consisted of me
    coming to the understanding that it realisticly
    expects you to apply thrust when you're airbourne
    if you want to move horizontally), I've come to truly enjoy this game. It includes much variety as to the style of the players' weaponry and armor, and the vehicle operation gives it something above Quake 3:TA and UT (both of which I also think of highly). It's slow-paced comparitively, but it's a lot of fun, and it has tremendous replay value.

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  60. New for Nerds? by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    unless you count some lame overpriced scooter...

    I tell you, I just don't understand the animosity toward this amazing technology. I was hoping the subject would come up again today after people had actually SEEN it, but no such luck. For those of you who haven't seen it in action: this machine actually keeps balance. It reproduces an extremely intricate function of our brain and nervous system. Here's what the story on Time.com says:

    Pulling off this trick requires an unholy amount of computer power. In every Segway there are 10 microprocessors cranking out three PCs' worth of juice. Also a cluster of aviation-grade gyros, an accelerometer, a bevy of sensors, two batteries and software so sophisticated it puts Microsoft to shame.

    If that's not news for nerds, I don't know what is. Non-closed-minded people should check out the story at the link above. The rest of you can carry on with the discussion about which amazing new game you can play while your fat ass is plastered to the couch.

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    1. Re:New for Nerds? by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > I tell you, I just don't understand the animosity toward this amazing technology.

      I understand the animosity. It's hype-backlash.

      Yes, it looks cool. Yes, it should appeal to geeks. But it was so massively over-hyped. Is this really going to change everything about life as we know it, or was that a bit of an exaggeration?

      You can't tell me you weren't at least a little letdown. Does it use a Sterling engine? No. Does it run on hydrogen or some alternative fuel source? No. Does "everyone want one"? Not at $3k.

      Ok, very neat, "think forward, go forward". But beyond that, it's not like people are really incapable of learning to use a throttle. For the most part, when I'm driving I don't have to consciously remind myself which pedal to step on to make the car go...

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    2. Re:New for Nerds? by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 1

      Ok yes, so it replicates the complex balance systems that humans have. How is this useful? Human balance is a built-in function, like blinking or breathing. We don't need machines fo those, either.

      While impressive, the technology is very limited in application. Why spend the $3,000 for this when a $100 razor scooter accomplishes virtually the same effect? (rhetorical)

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    3. Re:New for Nerds? by imrdkl · · Score: 1

      Nobody says they got it around here, without receiving some amount of feigned disinterest.

    4. Re:New for Nerds? by mESSDan · · Score: 2, Funny
      Pulling off this trick requires an unholy amount of computer power. In every Segway there are 10 microprocessors cranking out three PCs' worth of juice. Also a cluster of aviation-grade gyros, an accelerometer, a bevy of sensors, two batteries and software so sophisticated it puts Microsoft to shame.
      Then this begs the question, what would a beowulf cluster of THOSE be like? (I know, I know, shut up Dan)
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    5. Re:New for Nerds? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 2
      For those of you who haven't seen it in action: this machine actually keeps balance. It reproduces an extremely intricate function of our brain and nervous system.

      BFD. So do my feet and they don't cost $3K.

      No offense intended, but fuzzy control circuitry has been doing more complex stuff for years. So someone has finally built a package that combines decent sensors and a bit of motor control. And the best they could come up with for this stuff is some lame ass scooter? That doesn't even have a useful purpose? Call me when I can overclock this thing to 45 MPH.

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    6. Re:New for Nerds? by cavemanf16 · · Score: 2, Offtopic
      Don't worry, it's just typical of everyone to not be wowed and amazed to something that looks just ordinary. Unless it has three eyes, gills, a tentacle, and runs on thirteen different 486's running Linux, the Slashdot crew, like much of the world (including my coworkers!) won't think it's that amazing.

      Invest now, and watch as an 'ordinary, just-another-scooter' invention becomes the next big thing within 10 years.

      People keep slamming on Steve Jobs for touting it as the Next Big Thing, because after all, he only invented Apple Computers and they never did so well. Considering he helped invent the entire desktop PC, which MS stole GUI ideas and other things from, I honestly don't know why slashdot (users and site operators alike) is being so gay about IT.

      For Christmas I want:
      IT, Segway, Ginger, whatever you call it.
      Civ3 - I already got it, but highly recommend it
      Return to Castle Wolfenstein - if my computer had a GeForce3 it would run fine for me, and I played the multiplayer test more than CS over the past few weeks!
      GeForce3 - to run games better on my PC
      PS2 + Final Fantasy 10 - give me a gift certificate to Best Buy, I can wait a few weeks ;)

      Yes I strayed off-topic a bit, but somebody had to do it.

    7. Re:New for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this is such a cool thing, then I hope to see a review of Ginger from you very soon. Complete with pictures of your dorky ass riding it.

    8. Re:New for Nerds? by DigitalDaedalus · · Score: 1

      Wow. You nimrods (CmdrTaco included) are the same people who said:

      "A horseless buggy? Bah!"
      "$3000 for a computer? There's no more than 10 companies that can afford that!"
      "IT? That's just a scooter!"

      Nevermind all the childern with cp or all the elderly or crowded cities in asia. I'm sure noone there will want one. I'm also sure that the price will stay at $3000 as well. We all saw how the absurd price of computers has stayed so high.

      Seriously though, all the people who can't see exactly what IT will do for society (and I'm not talking about just the one you live in; there's a lot more people out there) are too short sighted to see beyond their monitors.
      IT is amazing. IT has more creativity, imagination, innovation, and potential then any chunk of code.
      All you cubical code monkeys just don't have enough of a clue to realize that.

    9. Re:New for Nerds? by ncc74656 · · Score: 1
      I tell you, I just don't understand the animosity toward this amazing technology. I was hoping the subject would come up again today after people had actually SEEN it, but no such luck.
      Speaking of seeing it (or It?), Fox News has video (300 kbps Windows Media; other formats available through their main page). Interesting, but its speed and range are too limited for it to be useful.
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    10. Re:New for Nerds? by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 2

      > Nevermind all the childern with cp ...

      Yes, I'm sure people who have little control over their muscles will want a machine that responds to subtle muscle movement.

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    11. Re:New for Nerds? by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 1

      Motorized Razor Scooter: $300CDN($200US)
      IT: $3000USD
      What does it offer, oh, it balances for you, and it weighs more, hmmmm, unless your sense of balance is shot, you'll take the Razor, which has the advantage of working when you run out of gas as a standard scooter.

      This reminds me of those 'revolutionary' electric bikes, you know, the ones nobody bought, because they had no range, were too heavy, and looked silly.

      And those kids all have razor scooters and skateboards, and the population of those crowded asian cities will prefer bikes, as they can carry cargo too.

      The price won't come down until v3.0, if they last tat long, as a lot of people won't buy them.

      Don't forget, both the car and the computer offered visible advantages, ie: sustained range(car), and speed of processing(computer), this offers something off little use to most people who have an intact sense of balance.

      The Crazy Finn

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    12. Re:New for Nerds? by sammy+baby · · Score: 1

      Well, to be fair - it'd probably be more like $400 for the Razor scooter, since you'd have to add an electric motor and controls for it. But still, your point is well taken.

    13. Re:New for Nerds? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      I understand the animosity. It's hype-backlash.

      Sheesh. Are people such slaves to the media that they either accept everything they're told, or reject everything they're told? Either way, they're being slaves.

      Stirling engine!? Who gives a crap about what power source it uses? The remarkable part of the thing has always been the self-balancing system. That's the part I was waiting to see, and that's the part that I wasn't disappointed by.

      I am frankly appalled by how blase so many people are by this. Self balancing is NOT a trivial problem, and a system like this has a million possible uses.

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    14. Re:New for Nerds? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      software so sophisticated it puts Microsoft to shame.

      My microwave - it has never crashed.. (unless you count that time when it ran for 20 mins with the door open, and i didn't notice even though i was standing next to it and thought "my brain feels warm...")

      or should that read: "software so messy it puts Microsoft to shame.

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    15. Re:New for Nerds? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2

      No offense intended, but fuzzy control circuitry has been doing more complex stuff for years.

      Bullshit. Show me these self-balancing systems that have been around for years. I'm sure if it's just a matter of bolting together off-the-shelf technology as you claim, there should be numerous examples.

      Self-balancing is NOT a trivial problem.

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    16. Re:New for Nerds? by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      ---But it was so massively over-hyped---

      But, it was "massively overhyped" by people like YOU, who then go back and complain when it doesn't live up to your OWN hype. The makers of this thing released no such specs. Tech-junkies like you invented them out of your own fantasies.

      ---Does it use a Sterling engine? No.---

      As far as i'm concerned, this is a good thing.

    17. Re:New for Nerds? by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      ---Human balance is a built-in function, like blinking or breathing. We don't need machines fo those, either.---

      you miss the point. The idea is that we need intuitive ways to interact WITH machines, who then can enhance what we already have. A razor scooter, even with a human at the helm, is far less stable than a gyroscoped computer, even WITHOUT a human at the helm.

    18. Re:New for Nerds? by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why spend the $3,000 for this when a $100 razor scooter accomplishes virtually the same effect?

      Why buy a $1500 computer with MS Word when a typewriter accomplishes virtually the same effect? This thing is much more than a couple wheels and a motor. It automatically moves itself to keep the wheels under you. You can't fall over on it, unless you deliberately try (and even that requires some effort, from what I understand.) I could easily see this technology replacing the attempts to put legs on robots in order to mimic human mobility. But then again, what do we need robots for, when we already have people?

      I don't care about the "scooter" application either, but this technology has a zillion applications for anyone or anything that needs to be moved, lifted, transported, etc.

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    19. Re:New for Nerds? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      Just like everything else, it will look _really_ good while you see everyone else using it, but when you finally get a go, the fun will wear off fast. Then you will get to experience your first crash (i mean software): the balance system will fail because of some buggy programming - suddenly, you will come to a complete stop from 17mph to zero as the brakes lock in and you will go flying. After a few years, rumours will start that the devices are all filled with special chips that will allow them to be remote controlled, allowing the company to take over the world by making all the IT's run wild. Also, the name - it will be called 'IT' not segway. segway is a stupid name. people are used to calling it IT so they will carry on doing it. within 10 years there will be an anti-trust case, over the monopolisation of IT and a few years after that, there will be similar IT projects such as FreeIT, OpenIT, GnuIT, and gIT. also the oil company shell will produce its own version running on petrol called shellIT, or shIT for short.

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    20. Re:New for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess the only people I see really using it are:

      a) those with $3000 to blow on something so they don't have to walk, even though they can (and probably should).

      b) those with mobility problems, well, if they have problems walking, they probably have problems standing, too.

      If they go too much faster than 2-4 mph (how fast most people walk), they will piss off everyone who doesn't have one.

      c) using one where there are lots of street corners w/o wheelchair cutouts, or lots of streets with really crappy street intersections (how about Adams & Wacker, in Chicago?).

      d) how can you carry a bunch of stuff with it? Parents w/ kids or people with pets won't find it very utilitarian. How do you walk the dog with it, if your dog has an urge to chase a cat? If it only goes 2-4 mph, you can't suddenly chase after your kids if they go astray on you...and how do you operate it when holding your 3-year old in one arm and your 1-year old in the other?

      It IS really cool tech, but hard to see much real utility for it.

    21. Re:New for Nerds? by Marx_Mrvelous · · Score: 1

      You are absolutely right, there are many applications for a gyroscopic stabilizer. specially for impaired people, or in industrial settings where safety is paramount. I meant to say that as a general purpose transportation device, I think it's overshooting the goal.

      Of course I usde to think the same way about electric toothbrushes, but now I use one every night :)

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    22. Re:New for Nerds? by mclearn · · Score: 1

      For being overhyped, I certainly didn't hear about it until yesterday courtesy of /. I can't be the only one.

    23. Re:New for Nerds? by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, it looks cool. Yes, it should appeal to geeks. But it was so massively over-hyped.

      This is hilarious. The slashdot crowd over-hyped the invention -- not DEKA -- and now the slashdot crowd is pissed off at DEKA because it does not live up to the hype?

      Ok, very neat, "think forward, go forward". But beyond that, it's not like people are really incapable of learning to use a throttle. For the most part, when I'm driving I don't have to consciously remind myself which pedal to step on to make the car go...

      You just don't get it. It's very simple. This device lets you move 4 times as fast as walking speed, while you expend LESS energy, and you are LESS likely to be knocked over by outside forces.
      It requires about 10 cents worth of energy per day to run.

      Why does it need a Stirling engine or alternative fuel?

      Oh, I forgot, because that's what the slashdot crowd said it would have.

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    24. Re:New for Nerds? by Jay+Bratcher · · Score: 1

      It's a shame they used so much technology for a device which doesn't have the range to get most people to work in the morning. But, let's assume it did. My 30 minute commute would now take an hour, and I would have to do it in the rain on many days, not to mention the cold. Do you think my employer is going to let 5000 people charge these things up at work? I doubt it. To top it off, I could ride my bike, which cost roughly 1/30 the price of an as-yet-unavailable $3000 segway, get a free workout (good thing, considering my fat ass is plasterd to the couch!), get to work FASTER, and not have to recharge it. Ever. Plus, there are no microchips required, and guess what? It stays balanced too! Not bad for a low-tech piece of equipment...

    25. Re:New for Nerds? by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1

      It's just a controls problem. Supersonic jets have been automatically stabilized for years, and I have a suspicion that's a bit more difficult then balancing a scooter.

    26. Re:New for Nerds? by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1

      Why were you running your microwave for 20 minutes?
      ..With the door open?

    27. Re:New for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a HUGE leap in technology and some of you guys can't get past the hype and the pretty casing to realize what the technology can do in other applications.
      We can have mobil robots that can actually move without stumbling around. It can be used for construction workers to move heavy loads in small areas. It can be used for a great many things and all you guys see is a the scooter they as their first product using this wonderful technology.

    28. Re:New for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you gay? Is that why you care about other people being gay? If you mean "lame" or "stupid", why not just say it? Why bring sexual orientation into it?

    29. Re:New for Nerds? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      I wanted to dry my dog, but he was to big to fit in with the door closed...

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    30. Re:New for Nerds? by Ionized · · Score: 1

      Then you will get to experience your first crash (i mean software): the balance system will fail because of some buggy programming - suddenly, you will come to a complete stop from 17mph to zero as the brakes lock in and you will go flying.

      thank you for demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. anything more than a cursory glance into IT would have revealed to you that they HAVE NO BRAKES. since it is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about, the rest of your comment can be safely ignored.

    31. Re:New for Nerds? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      They have no brakes? oh, well thats okay then.. they must be safe

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    32. Re:New for Nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if you currently use a wheelchair. I think the applications are pretty far reaching.

    33. Re:New for Nerds? by Ionized · · Score: 1

      RTFA. they don't need brakes.

  61. Impressions of Metal Gear by bopo · · Score: 1
    Finished Metal Gear (on normal, plan to go back for more) last week. Could have done with more game time, less cinematics time. Everything looked neat, but at the end I wanted more. Also, having to listen to Raiden and his girlfriend go through a counseling session everytime I wanted to save the game got tiring almost immediately.

    Penny Arcade pretty much sums up the plot here. Best to not think about it.

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  62. MacOS X games for Christmas by Figz · · Score: 1

    I just pre-ordered Aspyr Otto Matic for my sister and her MacOS X iMac for Christmas. Any thoughts on the game? I know nothing about it. I wanted a MacOS X game that wasn't a 1st-person shooter or a war/strategy game. This looked fun (and cheap :-)!

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    1. Re:MacOS X games for Christmas by jamie · · Score: 2
      Baldur's Gate II has the "Built for Mac OS X" sticker on the box but is slow, dog-slow, basically-unplayably-slow on OS X. I haven't gotten out of the prison yet, I keep getting killed by goblins with their Slow Frustration of Death spells apparently. I booted into OS 9 once to check and it was much more fun (but I still got killed, I suck).

      Oh wait, someone found an OS X speedup recommendation for BG II earlier today. Hrm. Well, maybe I'll give it another try in 16-bit color. Bah.

      Tropico is fun enough; SimCityesque weighted toward economics -- as dictator you control wages and prices. I may give it to my early-teen nephew this year, it's pseudo-educational. Consider it for your sister.

      The Return to Castle Wolfenstein demo kicks ass on OS X... very fast if you have enough RAM, though the interface still needs some work. I'm looking forward to the real release. And I'm thinking about getting Giants: Citizen Kabuto too just to see if it's any good; it sounds good.

      Booting over into OS 9, Summoner got a fair bit of my time but I eventually got bored. Oni I liked but got progressively harder to where I just couldn't handle it; I ended up just using the cheat codes to finish. Majesty is a well-balanced "Yet Another Warcraft" game, single-player fairly easy, multi-player eh OK. Again that's a consideration for your sister (yes you kill stuff but it's all like dragons and floating eyeballs, not gory, just fantasy).

      Oh, and Unreal Tournament I still break out when I feel the need to shoot stuff.

      (I don't work at Inside Mac Games, I just appreciate one of the few decent remaining game sites that focuses on the Mac.)

  63. Re:Myst III: Exile (windows) by Limburgher · · Score: 1

    3D rendered MYST was the best thing ever to happen to that game, and my only regret is that i havnt found a way to turn it into a Half-life deathmatch level. I've not played Exile yet, but then poverty is usually restrictive if your wife INSISTS on eating EVERY day. . .

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  64. Other choices by ChaoticCoyote · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those of us who aren't into anime (FF 10) or first-person shooters... ;)

    Kohan: Ahriman's Gift , the most original and entertaining RTS this year.

    Wizardry 8 , if you like party-based, heavy-combat, first-person RPGs.

    Stronghold , a terrific "castle simulator" built by some of the folks who created the Caesar/Pharoah series.

  65. A tip for parents by Exmet+Paff+Daxx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    As valuable as a list of good games is, let me tack on a note about a game not to buy your child this Christmas season.

    Don't buy your kids "WinBack: Covert Operation". A young child recently shot his brother to death after playing this game on his computer and attempting to re-enact the game.

    Personally, I'm rather fond of Half-Life, but my daughter doesn't seem to enjoy it.

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    1. Re:A tip for parents by cyberkreiger · · Score: 1

      See Penny-Arcade's take on this tragic event.

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  66. I have to say... by dhamsaic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Xbox is pretty great. I picked one up a few days ago and have gotten four games. I did a lot of research before buying. Here's what I've found.

    -Halo - Wow. This is seriously one of the best games I've ever played. For a FPS, the play and control is actually pretty good for a console. The graphics are good, and I find myself really getting into it. It's a great game, and anyone that enjoys immersive action games would appreciate it. You can check out an IGN review at http://xbox.ign.com/reviews/15922.html.

    -Dead or Alive 3 - WOW! I find it exceptionally hard to stop playing this game. The graphics are *stunning* and the fighting is great. This is really a game you get to play with someone else. It's fun the first 20 or so times by yourself, but after that, there's not much to go for. It also did very well with an IGN review, which you can get at http://xbox.ign.com/reviews/16249.html.

    -Project Gotham Racing - This is a very cool game indeed. Great for those that like racing and want something new. The tracks are pretty good and the cars are awesome. I personally don't have the racing wheel yet, but I find controls with the standard Xbox pad to be pretty good. Definitely enjoyable. IGN review at http://xbox.ign.com/reviews/16195.html.

    -Amped - This is probably my favorite of the bunch. I cannot take this game out of the console. Besides looking absolutely stunning, it's really addictive to play. There are tons of ways to go down the mountains, and I find myself making 15 or 20 runs in a row just trying to get the trick off just right. Very satisfying game experience. Highly recommended. IGN review at http://xbox.ign.com/reviews/16174.html.

    I'd strongly recommend buying a second controller. They're $40 each but you really wanna play this thing with someone else. Especially Dead or Alive 3 - it's great fun having the guys over and playing DOA3 for a few hours. If you're only going to be playing Halo or Amped and you'll be by yourself, don't bother with the extra controller. Also, if you're getting it for someone that's likely to just play games by themself. But personally, I need the second controller - I'm all about gaming with friends.

    Anyway. That's what I'd want for Christmas if I didn't already have it. The games that I listed above are great and they'll undoubtedly be appreciated by any gamer.

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    1. Re:I have to say... by demo · · Score: 1

      ...and we're all waiting for Sam & Max :)

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    2. Re:I have to say... by daanger0us · · Score: 1

      Ya, those may be great games, but there are definately some cool looking games coming out this month before christmas.

      Obi Wan being one of them.

      Also, NHL Hitz is an awesome game. I had a lot of fun playing that game with friends

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    3. Re:I have to say... by Communomancer · · Score: 1

      Just out of curiosity, have you ever played SSX or SSX Tricky? (Original was PS2 only, Tricky sequel is cross-console). I own and love both. Thus far has gotten more acclaim than Amped, but was wondering your perspective on it.

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    4. Re:I have to say... by dhamsaic · · Score: 2

      I have a little bit, and I agree that it's a good game. Personally though, I find Amped more addictive. But that might also be because I don't have a PS2 yet. Tricky looks like it'll be cool for Xbox, and I'll probably rent that when I get a chance.

      However, comparing the PS2 to the Xbox really isn't fair in the scheme of things. I don't think PS2 has been pushed to its potential yet - to me, it doesn't really look any better than my Dreamcast. Xbox, on the other hand... wow.

      I personally find Amped more stunning all around. I'd recommend reading the review on IGN that I linked to in the original post - they touch on the likeness with SSX & Tricky a little bit, as well as some of the more advanced features of the game (which are indeed cool).

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    5. Re:I have to say... by Heutchy · · Score: 1

      I'll second this. I have been playing Halo and Project Gotham Racing non stop since the Xbox came out. Halo is a blast....playing co-op on the harder difficulty levels is an amazing experience.

      My roommate also played through Munch's Oddysee...I'm not that into the Oddworld games, but he loved it. It is nice and forgiving compared to the older games in the series.

      Halo and Gotham are great gifts.....if you know anyone who doesn't have them, pick them up.

    6. Re:I have to say... by joeytsai · · Score: 1

      There is a game I have to recommend.

      Fuzion Frenzy My friend got an x-box, and I came over to his apartment with a bunch of friends - a pretty diverse group in terms of video game enthusiasts. I'm at one extreme (love playing the newest games) but some of my friends were on the other, who rarely play games at all. But all of us wasted a good couple of hours with its 45 (I think) mini-games. A great party game, especially with 4 people.

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    7. Re:I have to say... by stmfreak · · Score: 1

      We went the Xbox route this year for the kids. Halo, PGR, Madden 2002, Tony Hawk and Oddworld. Four controllers because all but Oddworld are multiplayer (Oddworld might be...) and we've got lotsa kids: Four including me.

      The Nintendo game lineup just didn't look good enough for the xmas morning unveiling. And looking back at our N64 library, there really wasn't anything stellar there that isn't replicated on every other system under a different name. I mean, we've got FPSs, RPGs, sports, street-fighters, and some racing games. Big whoop.

      So unless the PS3 is hella-cool, we're set for the next five years. Oh yea, and Civ III for my wife. Maybe she'll finally stop bugging me about the time I spend on my computer.

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  67. FFX by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 1

    Big games for the holidays for me will be Final Fantasy X, with GTA3, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, and Ghost Recon. The new Wolfenstein was a major letdown, with single player action that in no way even compares to Half-Life or Red Faction. For good new FPS action, get an X-Box and Halo.

    The Crazy Finn

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  68. I See Now... by Electric+Angst · · Score: 1

    Back when VA was trading in the hundreds...
    CmdrTaco: Oh man, check out this little gadget (Aibo, flatscreen TVs, etc.). It's so cool, and sure it costs a few grand, but I'm sure getting one!

    Now...
    CmdrTaco: This might be a great, innovative, increduble invention that could change the way civil space in constructed and traversed, but it costs so much! (Or, for the Mac people: It only holds 1000 songs! It takes entire seconds to transfer them! The thing's as huge as a pack of cigarettes! They aren't even going to include any of the new copy-protection!) It's overpriced crap!

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    1. Re:I See Now... by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Taco's got a point. It's a frikkin' scooter. Big whoop-de-do. Anyways it weighs 60+ pounds, thats too damn heavy to carry up stairs, a 30lb bike is marginal for carrying. I'll keep my bike, or buy a motorized Razor Scooter instead. The Crazy Finn

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    2. Re:I See Now... by Electric+Angst · · Score: 1

      I would lug a 120-pound version of this up the stairs at my work if it meant: 1) I wouldn't have to pay a few hundred a year for parking, and 2) I wouldn't have to pay for gasoline.

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    3. Re:I See Now... by daanger0us · · Score: 1

      Well...That's the point. Why pay $3000 for an 80 lbs. scooter when you could pay a couple hundred for a bike and just ride to work, and at the same time maybe get a work out. Plus, you wouldn't strain your back trying to life the thing.

      trip to the chiropractor: $35
      Monthly savings in parking garage: $200
      Trying to be cool just cause you have a balanced scooter for half the price of a Geo Metro, when in fact everybody is probably thinking you spend your money like an idiot: Priceless

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    4. Re:I See Now... by Electric+Angst · · Score: 1

      Don't you just love people who put things down out of ignorance?

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    5. Re:I See Now... by daanger0us · · Score: 1

      Hmm...if you want to argue, at least make a point.

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  69. Dark Age of Camlelot - PC (Win9x, Some Win2k spt.) by InnereNacht · · Score: 1

    If you're into the whole MMORPG genre this is a great game to give as a gift. They give the first month of game-play for free (first hit is always free, eh?) and then it's around $12/month after that if you go on a month-by-month plan.

    Gameplay itself is quite similar to Everquest, only many things are a lot more refined (combat, trade skills, guilds, personalization of avatars/characters, etc).

    http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/ is the companies main URL. It's made by Mythic, who is VERY well known for making MUDs and other online RPGs, but this is their very first true hit in the market IMO.

    If nothing else, check out some of the screen shots... They've got great scenery and character models. http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/screen_shots/index .html

    Most of all, good luck this christmas. I sure as hell have no idea what I'm getting anyone, lol.

  70. Re:Trolling Slashdot (the game!) by drwiii · · Score: 1

    download it here.

  71. Here's where I get burned in effigy by walnut · · Score: 2, Informative

    Um, while I know its been crucified since its release. Try Anarchy Online - either for the first time or again. I beleive FunCom is offering december free for those who canceled their accounts.

    All I can say is - its getting better. No, its not 100% there, but it is getting better.

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  72. Each Christmas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I need a new killer app from IdSoftware. This time it will be Wolfenstein.

    Next year it will be Doom3.

    No, I'm not too old. 38 is not old. It's not! It's not! It's not!

  73. Gaming Story Lines by oddsheep · · Score: 1

    As opposed to the entirely plausible story lines of almost every video game throughout the history of gaming... ;)

    ie:
    Castle Wolfenstein
    One bloke fights the good fight against a bunch of Nazi's holed up in their own holiday castle (so far only mildly implausible) only to discover that they've started experimenting with the undead. Ummmm.... yeah that sounds reasonable.

  74. How about a Watery Grave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish there was a shallow grave option in BUILD MODE.

    Build a tiny pool with a ladder. Boot her ass into the pool. Remove the ladder and watch her drown. It may take a bit...

  75. Grand Theft Auto 3 by GregGardner · · Score: 5, Informative

    CmdrTaco already mentioned this game, but he didn't give enough detail on it to convince people why it is such a great game.

    Unfortunately it is only out for the PS2, but for those of you with a PS2 should seriously think about getting this game. The complexity and depth of this game is pretty amazing. And the graphics are a huge improvement from GTA1 and 2. That silly low-detail overhead view made playing the game too cumbersome. GTA3 got the graphics/interface right.

    I have been playing it every spare second I have for the last month, and I am still only 36% through it according to the stats. And I believe that only relates to the missions. If you are bored with the missions you can always:

    1) Try to get "stunt" bonuses by stealing fast cars, boats, or airplanes and driving them off ramps, bridges, buildings, etc.
    2) Steal a taxi cab and play a little Crazy Taxi-esque game to earn a little side money
    3) Steal a fire engine and go around the citty putting out fires for $$. I hear if you put out 10 in a row you get the flame thrower. (How does that work?)
    4) Steal an ambulance and drive people to the hospital.
    5) Steal a police car and go on "Vigilante Missions" where you track down criminals around the city and get cash for killing them.

    Oh did I mention that this game is very non-PC and not recommended for people under 17? But man is it a lot of fun for those of us who are over 17.

    1. Re:Grand Theft Auto 3 by big_cat79 · · Score: 2, Funny

      My favorite non-PC moment is when you pull into a alley, drive up to a hooker, and request her 'services'. She climbs into the car, your money total goes down, and the car starts bouncing. If you are a real bad-ass, afterwards you can get out, beat her, and take your money back. What I don't get is how your health goes up afterward. I thought banging whores would be bad for your health?

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    2. Re:Grand Theft Auto 3 by FACEMILK · · Score: 1

      I rented and 'won' GTA3 over thanksgiving break and I still want it for Xmas. It's so huge and there's so much to do, I'll play it all year and not get bored.

    3. Re:Grand Theft Auto 3 by mr3038 · · Score: 2
      GTA3 got the graphics/interface right.

      Except that you cannot get 1st person view when you're walking and 1st person view is pretty much unusable when driving too... Makes it really hard to shoot enemies when the camera points 90 degrees to wrong direction!

      Oh did I mention that this game [GTA3] is very non-PC and not recommended for people under 17?

      From the Grand Theft Auto web site:

      Grand Theft Auto returns this Fall on the Playstation®2 computer entertainment system. It will appear on PC CD ROM n Spring 2002.

      So it's not PS2 only forever... Though I have to admit that the game is damn good. By the way, age limit is 18 in here, Finland.

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    4. Re:Grand Theft Auto 3 by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      I do believe he meant "politically correct", not "personal computer".

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    5. Re:Grand Theft Auto 3 by GregGardner · · Score: 1

      OK, so the interface isn't _perfect_ but I found that once you got used to all the buttons, you could make it work. For instance, if you hit L1 while walking or standing still (not in a car), the camera drops directly behind you and you can see what is directly in front of you. Also, the second analog stick drops you into first-person mode. It doesn't stay in first person mode while you walk, which would be nice sometimes, but it can be useful too.

      I have no problems while driving. In GTA1 and 2 I would just run into buildings ALL the time because I couldn't see far enough in front of me. GTA3 has a pretty standard "racing game" type view when you are driving cars that I think works. There is a learning curve for doing the drive-by shootings in your car while trying to drive at the same time.

    6. Re:Grand Theft Auto 3 by GregGardner · · Score: 1

      Yes I did mean non-politically correct. I guess here on Slashdot non-politically correct shouldn't be abbreviated.

      However, I did mention at the top of my comment that it was only available for the PS2, so his reply was warranted, he just sort-of mis-quoted.

  76. Simulator Games by eyrich · · Score: 1

    If you need a break from FPS games.
    I just picked up Combat Simulator I, $17 i think, If I like it I'll get CS II. I aksed for Flight Sim 2002 Pro for Christmas.

    With those 3 and now that I can play Allegiance again, I think I will be happy for a little while.

    http://www.total-games.com/MyAllegiance/

    1. Re:Simulator Games by Chundra · · Score: 2

      As someone who is ordinarily a Linux zealot and hater of all things Microsoft, I want to state for the record that Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002 Professional fuckin' rocks! It is, without a doubt, the coolest game I have ever played. I actually went out and bought a new HD, a nice flight stick, and installed win2k exclusively for this game.

    2. Re:Simulator Games by tomas789 · · Score: 0

      I actually went out and bought a new HD, a nice flight stick, and installed win2k exclusively for this game. So what about win2k? Did you buy that? Or did it come free with the HD?

    3. Re:Simulator Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None of the above. I borrowed it from work. :)

    4. Re:Simulator Games by gumbo · · Score: 1
      As someone who is ordinarily a Linux zealot and hater of all things Microsoft, I want to state for the record that Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002 Professional fuckin' rocks!

      Me too on both of those. I installed it yesterday and was up too late playing it. One weird bit: I was third in line for take-off, but there was a constant stream of planes landing, and air traffic control never cleared any planes for take-off. I had to cut to the front of the line, which let me request a takeoff, and then they let me. Traffic control still told the incoming plane to go ahead and land on my runway right after that, but told him to go back into the traffic pattern when he got too close and I was still on the ground.

      I liked the Max Payne demo, too.

  77. A full set of MAME roms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and SNES, and Genesis, and TurboGrafx...

    Sure, it's something you make yourself rather than buy, but it's the thought that counts.

  78. Everquest luclin expansion by johnburton · · Score: 1

    New race to play, new classes, many more zones and vastly improved graphics.

    How can you beat that?

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    1. Re:Everquest luclin expansion by daanger0us · · Score: 1

      Umm.. you can beat it with Dark Age of Camelot and hopefully EQ will die... even Anarchy Online is better.

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    2. Re:Everquest luclin expansion by johnburton · · Score: 1

      No I also have Daoc. It's good but not as good as everquest.

      It looks better than the everquest (at least the original everquest) and has lots of good ideas but has three flaws :-

      1. It's too quiet. You can't talk to people and hear conversations like in EQ.
      2. It's dull. There isn't anything to do other than hit the next monster. And I know everquest is the same, but it just seems better.
      3. It's too small. The whole world is about the size of one of everquests larger zones. And everquest has about 100 zones.

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    3. Re:Everquest luclin expansion by Narril+Duskwalker · · Score: 1
      Ok so were off topic here but... more reasons why I didn't renew my daoc and went back to EQ ;) Similar to your point#3 the world is small.. and to compensate for the small world.. they made everyone move at a snails pace. (It was so nice to log into eq and hear my jboots go off) Also, It's design doc mustve looked like, "See what people whine about in eq and let them have it, no matter what the consequences are to gameplay" This topic is a hole with no bottom but I'll sum it up into DAoC is overreactionary towards eq in thier approach to deesign.

      Yah DAoC has lots of good points in it's favor, but the negatives kinda pushed me back into EQ ;)

  79. Dreamcast. by dhamsaic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Dreamcast price has been dropped to $50, and most great games (Crazy Taxi, Soul Calibur, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 & 2, etc) can be found for $20 or less (I saw Crazy Taxi for $10 at Best Buy Saturday night). One must not overlook the Dreamcast - it's cheap, it's got great graphics, there are a lot of *really* great games for it - it's the perfect gift for anyone that's into console gaming. Cheap for you, fun for them. Nothing to lose buying it.

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    1. Re:Dreamcast. by LighthouseJ · · Score: 1

      I definitely reccommend Soul Calibur on the DC. It's without a doubt, the best fighting game ever created. It's a shame they haven't made sequels to expand the game more.

    2. Re:Dreamcast. by garcia · · Score: 2

      I have always been pro-cheap on hardware. I am always at least a year behind or so when I purchase a new machine... The games are great at the time but then after like 6 mos I get bored and start seeing the great crap that just came out...

      So the cycle begins again.

    3. Re:Dreamcast. by Communomancer · · Score: 1

      Sequel is in production. Planned release is for PS2, XBox, and the Gamecube.

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    4. Re:Dreamcast. by Sokie · · Score: 1

      Absolutely, we bought our DC when the price dropped to $100 about a year ago. And now for $50 you get ~10 times the graphics power of the PS1 and a lot of high quality games for cheap. I'll just add a bit to your list of games to pick up:

      - DOA2
      - Virtua Tennis (I know tennis sounds stupid, but this is actually one of the best dreamcast games available and has been enough to make some people go out and buy a DC just to play this game)
      - Jet Grind Radio
      - Unreal Tournament (not quite as good as on the PC but still a fun deathmatch game)
      - NFL Blitz 2001 (a great party game for up to 4 players)
      - I also second the votes for Crazy Taxi (and Crazy Taxi 2 for that matter) and Soul Caliber
      - Almost all of the Sega Sports games (NFL 2K2, NBA 2K2, etc) are pretty good...

      Also I'd go out and pick up a bunch of controllers (get the original Sega ones, they may look and feel a little funny at first but you really do get used to them and I actually prefer them now), and get some VMUs (Visual Memory Units) both of those accessories can be had for under $10 each if you keep your eyes open.

      Long live my DC! At least until I splurge on a PS2 or something :)

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    5. Re:Dreamcast. by pi_rules · · Score: 2

      Worms is an excellent game on the Dreamcast too. I started playing Worms II on the PC, a friend had it on PS1 (that one didn't work so well though.. screen kinda sucked) but on the DC the game plays very well. You can find various versions, Worms Armageddon and Worms World Party. I prefer World Party because you have the option of using more than 1 controller where as Armageddon forces you to pass the controller around from person to person. It's not the act of passing it that bothers me, but it's easy to bump the "fire" button while passing and kill the next guy's worm with a bazooka blast planted right in front of him on accident. If you've ever played it you probably know what I mean.

      It's a fun game for a group of 4 people, very addictive if you ask me. Can be quite humorous at times too. Really fun when you get more than 2 people going because you get "politics" going as people gang up on the leader and such. Maybe that's just my group of friends though.

      Oh yeah, like all DC games now it's cheap. I got a copy for $20.

    6. Re:Dreamcast. by TheRain · · Score: 1

      Sonic Adventure 2 is one of the funnest games I've ever played... and the best on the Dreamcast IMO. It can be frustrating but is so fun, you will work to get past the frustrating parts.

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    7. Re:Dreamcast. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you go and get a cheapo DC and like RPGs then go and get Skies of Arcadia, it's a great game.

      Grandia II is nice too

      Skies - http://dreamcast.ign.com/reviews/15110.html

      GII - http://dreamcast.ign.com/reviews/11012.html

  80. Quake 3 + Team Arena for fast paced mayhem by ForsakenRegex · · Score: 1

    After you snag Return to Castle Wolfenstein for
    $50, go ahead and pick up Quake 3 and Team Arena
    if your recipient doesn't have them. Although the
    Q3 is getting dated now, the mod community keeps
    providing new ways to add variety to what has
    become old hat (check out the Urban Terror mod
    in particular for a truly amazing Q3 makeover).
    Tribes 2 and Q3->Urban Terror game take up 90%
    of my game playing time these days.

    --
    "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself."
  81. For kids: GollyGee Blocks by Jonathan+Blocksom · · Score: 1
    If you've got kids, check out GollyGee Blocks. It's a 3D building blocks program designed for elementary school kids; think KidPix + Legos or 3D Studio Max for 8 year olds. We sell it direct to schools, so you won't find it retail -- but it's just as good and at $25 the price can't be beat. It's for Mac OS 8-9 and Windows and doesn't need a 3D card.

    And here's a review from somebody who didn't write it.

  82. Atari 2600 - Poker Solitaire by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1

    A fresh new game from my friend Urchlay on undernet. His exciting use of color card suits and software character generation pushes the limits of the 2600's abilities. I'm still waiting for him to port DoomII though.

    Yes, seriously, he writes games for the 2600 and NES. I'm more of an AppleII man myself though.

  83. Super Smash Brothers Melee? Is it real? by BassGuy23 · · Score: 0

    After many long months of waiting, My friends and I trekked out early this morning to procure the new version of Smash, on its release date of Dec 3, 2001, as stated by both nintendo.com and by ign.com. Alas, no. The release date has apparently been changed without notifying the public. The game is now supposedly being released on Dec 4 or Dec 5, 2001. Nintendo and ign both still list the date as Dec. 3, 2001, but all of the retailers in my area (West Lafayette, IN) claim that the game has not yet arrived. If anybody can shed some light on my plight, please let me know. This game was suposed to be an early Christmas present for my friends and I to give ourselves to get through finals week here at Purdue, but we are being mocked by the retalers and are being forced to wait until a vague time in the future. Thank you for any information you may have.

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    ~Mike

    A big enough hammer fixes *anything*
  84. Mame by crow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While it may seem like a lame cop-out on the surface, I think that putting together a CD of old arcade games may make a great gift for some people. The target for such a gift would be someone who isn't likely to download and install it themselves, but would enjoy the games. So do the work for them (granted, it's not that much work) and get them a CD that they just pop in their system and play.

    Think of it as the geek equivalent of hand-drawing your own greeting cards. Martha Stewart of Borg would be proud.

    1. Re:Mame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try 2 CDs. IF you put ROM files and the MAME binary on the same disk you are violating the license.

  85. Dreamcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do yourself a favour and get a Dreamcast! At $50 US, there are 5 great games at the very least. Resident Evil Code veronica, Ready to Rumble 2, Shenmue, Skies of arcadia, and Gunbird 2. Not to mention all the sports title if you're into that.

  86. what about Black & White by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen such good reviews of this in mainstream pubs - any geek comments? Looking to get a gift for someone who loved the old Quake.

  87. A load o' shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First of all, a message to m0d 74m3rz, you will find this hard! is it flamebait, offtopic, or troll?



    /. Shit first!

    The website url is wrong, you could think its slashdotdot! next, on most keyboards its ./! and cmdrTaco is the n3rdiezt name 3v3r!



    More shit to come! part of a series of shitty articlez!



    The shiting coward!

  88. Re:Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Civilization I by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plant forest in the tundra areas.

  89. Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon by gosand · · Score: 2
    I am a big fan of Rogue Spear, after finishing it I bought the Urban Operations pack. So I naturally picked up Ghost Recon when it came out. It is a slightly different type of game, which has some things better than RS, some worse.

    It is a wartime game, not like RS which was anti-terrorist. I kind of prefer that format, even though the massive outdoor scenarios in GR are awesome. I also miss the ability to have a wide variety of weapons to choose from. GR gives you classes, where you have 1 or two combinations. In RS, you could select from 10 assault rifles, 5 or 6 pistols, 6 or so sniper rifles, etc.

    Ghost Recon is just a slightly different type of game, but you do have the ability to command the other squads during the game, instead of like in RS where you had to define it all before starting.

    My personal preference would be to have more silenced weapons in GR, because I am more of a stealthy guy. But the gameplay and AI is pretty cool, the scenery is awesome, and the action is top notch.

    --

    My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.

    1. Re:Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon by eddy · · Score: 2

      There's some bad things about it too. The game is way to short and actually pretty simple to finish. I played it through in less than a week (on "recruit", granted) playing only a couple of hours a day. I completed each level perfectly (all objectives, no lost men).

      I too would like more silenced weapons. I don't remember how many specialists had silenced weapons, but it was something like three or four, tops? Maybe they should have allowed any soldier to carry any gun, but give penalties when the soldier isn't carrying his weapon of choice. (might not be realistic, but this is a game -- it's about fun, not realism. I get really annoyed with the realism-wanking going on in the R6/GR communities).

      Though on that note, I do wish that one could fire through walls with those high-powered rifles. Door work, walls don't. Irritating.

      I'd rather the game was a little more like Operaion Flashpoint, where the game isn't completely linear. That is, if you fail a mission (to a certain degree) you'll be allowed to continue the campain, but it might actually have ramifications later on.

      Too bad OPF was a good idea implemented pretty badly (multiplayer is completely butched by broken design -- too large gamestate to allow 'drop in' gaming, according to the developers. Too many 'coders', too few 'software-engineers' I guess.)

      There is no linux dedicated server besides (for either game). I won't comment on multiplayer, but it's a fair single-player game, though way too short for my liking.

      (any of these things may have been fixed since I last played the game)

      --
      Belief is the currency of delusion.
  90. For the non-console gamers... ( PC ) by CaptIronfist · · Score: 1

    A little background here: I hate console gaming! I really really hate console games and so this is why i'm only suggesting PC 'native' games.

    For those of you guys who just don't care at all about console gaming, i strongly suggest you ask Santa a copy of Tribes 2. ( More targets for me to
    shoot at ;)

    Arguments?

    1. Best darn game I'VE EVER PLAYED ( Yes its bold! And yes i'm prepare to defend that until death ;)

    2. There is currently no new games on the market that will give you a Team Based 45 minutes of mayhem like this game. Although Return To Castle Wolfenstein seems good enough, it still isn't Tribes 2. ( Picture a front of 4 tanks, covered from above by 1 squadron of fighters and bombers. It's all about vehicles. )

    3. Will a deathmatch at more than 60 players convince you, cause i'm ready to fight this argument to death! ;)

    Other Suggestions for PC platform:

    1. Return to Castle Wolfenstein ( Like i said: "looks good." )
    2. Cossacks: Europeen Wars ( A favorite here, this is a great startegy game )
    3. Anything except Dark Age of Camelot. ( The game isn't worth a christmas gift. It looks great, it sounds great, but the game content is poor. It is better to wait until next year for this one, believe me! )

    There is a thin fine line between a sociologist and a sociopath...

  91. SSX Tricky by TiggerPac · · Score: 1

    This isn't my usual style of game, but man, is it addictive. A definite must-buy... especially if you have a GameCube.

    1. Re:SSX Tricky by Zaknafein500 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This isn't my usual style of game, but man, is it addictive. A definite must-buy... especially if you have a GameCube.

      Agreed. I was a huge fan of the orriginal, and just picked up Tricky a few days ago. Man, this game is awesome. Even though only two of the tracks are completely new, the old tracks are so drastically different, you'll barely recognize them. Snowdream in paticular doesn't look a thing like it did in the first game. The new characters rock, the soundtrack is better than ever, the graphics have been slicked up a notch, and the game is even more addictive than its predecessor. Another cool thing EA did was include a "DVD Extras" portion on the disc, which is basically a collection of making-of documentaries like you would expect to see on a movie DVD. Overall, the game is incredible. Go buy it, now.

      I'm playing the PS2 version though, according to IGNCube's review the Cube version has some graphical and control issues. You might want to pick it up for the PS2 if you have the choice between platforms.

      --

      "The guide is definitive, reality is frequently inaccurate."
    2. Re:SSX Tricky by TiggerPac · · Score: 1

      The Cube version has some graphical and control issues? Well, after about 12 hours of gameplay, I haven't experienced any of those yet. I'm extremely impressed with the Cube release. I'm not saying the issues may not be there, just if I've encountered them, they haven't affected the experience by one iota.

  92. Favorite game? Monopoly, of course! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Become as rich as BillG!!

    Take over the world!

    The classics rock, and deserve a second look.

  93. "Lame Scooter"??? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Sometimes I just have to shake my head at the density of a lot of people who can't see when something is truly remarkable. I don't know if this thing is really going to remake the world, but can anyone really look at a self-balancing two wheel platform and not see a hell of a lot of uses for it?

    Overpriced is debatable, but there is apparently a lot of safety and quality built into the thing, from all the reports. $3K for the first unit seems pretty damn good.

    I know if I lived in NYC or some other big city, I'd get one for doing a 20 block commute trip rather that having to take the subway, particularly if it was legal on the sidewalks (which is what they're pushing for).

    Not to mention that it sounds pretty damn fun. Imagine doing power turns when the device does its own balancing. Hell, imagine off-road all-terrain versions that you can take pretty much anywhere a body will fit.

    I think people need to use a little imagination.

    --
    Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    1. Re:"Lame Scooter"??? by praxim · · Score: 1

      Man, you're obviously not from Brooklyn. 20 blocks is nothing- my mom and I used to walk four to eight miles per day, easily.

    2. Re:"Lame Scooter"??? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      That's fine if your time is worth nothing. I have nothing against exercise, but I'd rather do something fun rather than have to walk 4-8 miles to work everyday.

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    3. Re:"Lame Scooter"??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you lived in NYC, the sidewalks are WAY too crowded for you to be tearing around in some overpriced scooter. Those things will be banned by the city faster than you can say "Seg-what?"

  94. Pr0n-type games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where are all the good dirty games now? We have high end computers with massively powerfull 3-D graphics. When will some good sex games come out? The dirtier the better.

    I'm not talking about hiring hookers in GTA3, I want high-end, smut games!

  95. Postpone Christmas by inviagrated_amnesiac · · Score: 1

    Yes, in the interest of pulling the economy outa recession, since gamers contribute a lot to the economy, may suggest that christmas be postponed until FF10 isnt ready to ship.

  96. Super Smash Bros. Melee, Rogue Leader (GameCube) by gabe · · Score: 1

    I got my gamecube early in the morning on the day it came out (amidst a large group of parents buying them for their children). I snagged a copy of Luigi's Mansion (Rogue Leader was sold out by the time I got to the front of the line). Within a week I'd beaten it twice. It's an awesome game, but after some practice it's really easy. My first try got my a C ranking. Second try I got all the Boos, both secret rooms, a buttload of cash and an A. And that was in the "Hidden Mansion", which didn't seem to be any different from the normal mansion.

    Anyways, I've rented Rogue Leader and I love it. It's one of those great games where you can just putz around in the 3d world if you want to. Great graphics, great gameplay. I will definately be purchasing this for myself for xmas... but my next purchase is Super Smash Bros. Melee. I completely rocked all of my friends at Super Smash Bros. for N64. Got all of the secret characters except for luigi... I could never finish that one level with Yoshi where you have to drop off a cliff, shoot an egg, hover in the air and shoot another egg. I will be getting the sequel tomorrow morning and an extra control stick so I can train my girlfriend to kick our friends' butts with me.

    I just returned Grand Theft Auto 3 to blockbuster. I had to wait quite some time before they actually had a copy in. Thankfully there was one in when I went to return Crazy Taxi for PS2. That game sucked hard. It was great in the arcade, but it's just not any fun for the console. If they added a new mode or maybe had different cities or something it'd be ok. The copy I rented locked up a few times also. I hope that was due to scratches and not the game itself.

    So back to Grand Theft Auto 3. There is no better game in my opinion. I love it. I've been playing GTA since 1996/1997. I was first introduced to it by some coworkers at my first job - tech support at a local isp. That game, along with Quake (and a T1) and Carmageddon made for wonderful stress relief. I've got the GTA 1 + London 1968 discs for PSX, and I just got GTA2 for PSX for $10 at Best Buy. GTA 3 is the s#%t, plain and simple. You can just roam around the city, steal taxis, and other misc. cars, get into trouble, mess with the cops, do jobs for the mafia, etc. The interface is an incredible improvement over the old top-down view, which actually remains in this version also. GTA3 is definately going to be my favorite xmas present this year.

    --
    Gabriel Ricard
  97. Ghost Recon by futuresheep · · Score: 1

    I don't know why this hasn't been mentioned yet. This is a GREAT game. The system requirements are a bit steep, but the single player campaign is as tight and suspenseful as any I've seen lately, and the Multiplayer in Coop mode is a blast.

    1. Re:Ghost Recon by el'gwato · · Score: 1

      Another game you may want to look at is Deadly Dozen. The graphics are as good if not better on most older puters p4,1600xp. and apart from the interface being a yanky doodle it's a damn nice game.

      --
      All speling, factual, tact, and/or grametical errers be the result of netwerk interpherance or# transmition ererrs.
  98. Europa Universalis by Exxxodus · · Score: 1

    I've played Europa Universalis for the last days, and it's great. It's one of the best strategy games I've ever played. It's an alternative hostory game. You start in 1492 and play one of 13 countries(more if you use an expansion like IGC). Sweden have never been so great as under me.

    1. Re:Europa Universalis by emir · · Score: 1

      well eu2 is even better :)

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    2. Re:Europa Universalis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep you're so right. I'm amazed, actually, that the whole Slashdot crowd hasn't really picked up on Europa Universalis (especially Europa 2). Considering we're all of the generation that fell in love with, and lost sleep over, Civ.

      Europa2 has all the depth and addictive qualities of Civ with the same rewarding feeling of building and empire. But Europa seems to take it the next step by putting such an emphasis on the deceit and false promises of complex diplomacy.

      Such a good game, and appeals to the same parts of yer brain that the Civ series did.

  99. Re:PLAYSTATION: Don't overlook cheap shit. by scseth · · Score: 1
    I just picked up Wipeout Excel for $6.99 - and the game still rocks. I agree, nothing like using yesterday's technology for some cheap thrills. In every target/kmart/etc there is usually the cheap PS1 section with games $19 and below, with well known titles (e.g. Tony Hawk 3, Cool Boarder 3, Driver 2, Twisted Metal 3). If you like variety - this is definitely the best way to go.

    Buy the 'greatest hits' online - from Sony

    OTOH... that PS2-Madden football commercial shows some sweet graphics.

  100. Re:Nazi Editors Have Bitchslapped Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is America - we have FREE Speech as well as FREE Software.

    Just as there is a lot of bad FREE Software (Star Office, Netscape 6, Tux Racer 0.6, etc.), there is a lot of bad FREE Speech (crapflooding, Natalie Portman grits stories - oh wait, I like those, penis brids, etc.).

    By effectively censoring this bad speech, the editors are taking away his freedom.

    Just imagine how much you zealots would bitch if Slashcode went closed source and they started charging you to read the articles...

  101. champing at the bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's not "chomping" at the bit, it's "champing".

  102. Grand Theft Auto for PC by Wells2k · · Score: 1

    Just as a quick note, Grand Theft Auto 3 will be coming out for the PC sometime in the Spring of 2002.

    You can check out the website here.

  103. MCO+OFP by Joe_Pineapples · · Score: 0

    Motor City Online !

    Ride, wreck, crash and burn, make other people mad at you !!!

    Operation Flash Point

    Same reasons + Sniper Rifles and Grenades...

    ABC Warriors For Ever

  104. Racing games? by abischof · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Personally, I'm a big fan of racing games, such as the Need For Speed series (I like the varied environment there, as opposed to a set track from, for instance, Formula 1 games). High Stakes was good, but that's a bit old now. And, Porsche Unleashed only has Porsches, of course.

    Are there any new racing games that I should check out? And, before you suggest it, I'm not particularly interested in Motor City Online, as I prefer non-Internet play ;).

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    Alex Bischoff
    HTML/CSS coder for hire

    1. Re:Racing games? by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you are interested in racing get a PS/2 and GT3 A-Spec, nothing else compares. Project Gotham has prettier cars, but the tracks suck, and it has only 25 cars and 4 base tracks (Albeit 240 variations of those 4), vs 140+ and 29 tracks in GT3. The Crazy Finn

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      "You've got an invalid haircut" -Warren Zevon - Life'll Kill Ya
    2. Re:Racing games? by joe90 · · Score: 1

      Rally Trophy isn't bad. The graphics a bit arcadish, but the physics engine is one of the better ones I've seen in a arally game.

      My preference is Grand Prix Legends - more of a racing simulator than game. It's quite old (circa 1998) but still has a big community of players for both offline and online racing.

      --

      Fast, cheap & reliable. Pick two.
    3. Re:Racing games? by Loligo · · Score: 1


      But does GT3 A-Spec have better physics than GT? (didn't play GT2, can't comment on it)

      GT had (IMO) too much reliance on the arcadey powerslide instead of pushing the limits of traction to maintain higher speeds through curves.

      Also, have they made any quality force-feedback steering wheels for the PS2?

      -l

    4. Re:Racing games? by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 1

      Logitech FF USB Wheel works on PS2 and PC, but the best wheel on the market is the Momo Wheel, it's made out of steel, by logitech and Momo(Maker of tuner parts, cool wheels and steering wheels for sport compacts)

      Physics is pretty good when you turn the difficulty up. as good as SegaGT, don't even think of powersliding unless you're driving a high-powered 4wd or in a Rally race.

      The Crazy Finn

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      "You've got an invalid haircut" -Warren Zevon - Life'll Kill Ya
  105. Dreamcast: Sega Tennis 2k2 by leono · · Score: 1

    I know this sounds odd if you haven't played it, but the Virtua Tennis series for the Dreamcast is really, really fun. It's fast-paced, has an easy learning curve, and has very good, realistic graphics.

    The latest version has female players for the first time, and although there's no Anna Kournikova (presumably because they couldn't strike a royalty deal with her), the Williams sisters definitely satisfy my babe requirements. :-)

    There's also a lot of fun training modes, so you can improve your self-designed players' stats.

  106. Dude! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You just made me pee my pants!

  107. My current list by T.E.D. · · Score: 1
    I'm not exactly with-it on consoles, but PC games are another matter entirely. Here's my current list:
    • Civilization III - I only mention this because so many others have. I have it already. Yes, it sucks away all my free time and half my sleep time like a giant vaccum cleaner. However, that isn't really a *good* thing; I'm not really having all that much *fun*. If you, like me, sucked all the marrow out of Civ II, then it doesn't really bring a lot of new fun to the table. If you don't have a CIV right now though, yes you need Civ III.
    • Kohan: Ahriman's Gift - I really liked the first Kohan. Its sort of a RTS version of Heroes of Might and Magic. The new version doesn't sound like much of a change, but as my main problem with the first one was that the campaign was too short, that could be a very good thing.
    • Empire Earth - Sort of like Age of Empires, but in 3D. It could be great, it could be a bit dull. I couldn't really tell from the demo.
    • Myth III - Squad-level RTS game. I keep hearing great things about this series, but I have get to get a Myth game, so I'm about due.
    • Stronghold - RTS where you build and defend your own castle. Somewhat mixed reviews, but it looks interesting.
    • Trade Empires - RTS Where the object is to build a trade network, not to take over the world militarily.
    That's my current XMAS-list. Yes, its all RTS. I like strategy, game companies like real-time, wadda-ya'-gonna-do?
  108. Simpsons Road Rage for PSX2 by big_cat79 · · Score: 1

    Since I haven't played or even seen the other versions of Road Rage for X-Box or Game Cube, I'll stick with the PSX2 version. This is a great game for Simpsons fans. It's not the world's best game, but all the little details on Springfield and the characters are well worth it. Little things like Moe having his car with the rubber hippy daisy (from the episode where he asks Homer to steal it for the insurance money so he can impress his girlfriend) and Ralph Wiggum talking about the leprachaun telling him to burn things show this is a real Simpsons game, not just using them to sell a Crazy Taxi Rip-off. Some of the locations are down-right hilarious, the the She-She Lesbain Lounge strip-club. And Principal Skinner's beloved Box Factory. They really put the thought into this that they still put into the show, which, as a long time fan, I appreciate whole heartedly.

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    BigCat79

    "The dead have risen and are voting Republican!" --Bart Simpson
  109. Max Payne by Washizu · · Score: 1

    Definitely the best shooter I've played in a while. It has terrific 3D graphics and unique gameplay.

    The major hook of the game is a feature called "Bullet Time" which puts the game in slow motion for a bit, but allows you to aim in real time. This allows you to dodge bullets as they wiz past you and get through areas you would have no chance to otherwise.

    It's the only shooting game I've ever seen come close to providing similar scenes to those found in Hard Boiled, The Killer, or the Matrix.

    You can't go wrong with Max Payne.

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    OddManIn: A Game of guns and game theory.
  110. Everquest: Shadows of Luclin Expansion by Narril+Duskwalker · · Score: 1
    It comes out this week and may be a little pre-christmasy but if you or your loved ones play Everquest odds are you'll need to pickup Shadows of Luclin (yah.. ha ha on poor choice of acronyms on thier part) fairly soon.

    It upgrades the character models and textures throughout the world and has all sort of cool new stuff added in.. along with a new world to explore. You may wanna check the system req's first though since new/better textures/models may require new/better video chips ;)

    My problem with EQ expansion though is that I run 3 accounts at once so I get hit 3 times on the cost of expansions :b
  111. My PC Game Picks: by mESSDan · · Score: 2

    RPGs: Wizardry 8, this game is really really fun. The graphics are pretty good at times and pretty strange at times. (for instance, really really thick doors) Overall a vibrantly colored, fun game that will take a LONG time to beat. (This game almost plays like an FPS)

    Strategy: Well, its hard to pick a favorite for this category, I like Civ3, but it can be pretty boring at times, so I also like Empire Earth (It's an AOE2 clone that's graphically pretty well done and from what I've seen so far, got a great amount of diverse gameply), and Star Wars Gallactic Battlegrounds, this game IS AOE2 with a Star Wars Theme, so if you like AOE2 and Star Wars, this is a must have. Heck, if you like Strategy and Star Wars, it's a must have. The campaigns take you through the ENTIRE Star Wars saga. On a side note, the graphics could be better, but the sound/voices are superb. Monopoly Tycoon is worth a look too, if you can get it cheap.

    FPS: Return to Castlewolfenstein was a pretty lackluster single player title for me, so I don't recommend this game except maybe for the netplay. The netplay is very well done and seems to be the main reason why people are getting this game. But is it more popular/better than CS? I really doubt it. Aliens Vs Predator 2 is a really really polished title and expansion on the first, I recommend it just for the sheer size/diversity of the gameplay. Heck, it's fun too. Max Payne, I know it's not a Christmas/Holiday title, but if you haven't played it yet, well, bullet time is to die for. And, it has X-Box and PS2 versions of it coming out on Dec. 11th in the US. (I do know that Max Payne is a 3rd Person game, but it's an FPS, trust me.) The last title I would recommend for the FPS genre is one called Codename: Outbreak. It was made in Russia, but the gameplay is set in Montana, which is kind of funny because the members of your crew in the game are mostly Americans, but EVERYONE speaks Russian style english (grammar and accenting). But the FPS gameplay is pretty good most of the time, but can drag at others. Worth mentioning is the excellent sound/music, and really sweet weapons in the game. The Zoom on your gun also has an audio magnifier so you can listen to where you're looking. Sweet.

    RTS: Well, I have to say, Battle Realms is an AWESOME game. Beautiful graphics, fluid gameplay, excellent voiced and diverse storyline, and hours and hours of gameplay. If all that wasn't enough, you can play with lots of people on the internet too. This game is a must, but it does have rather steep system reqs (req: P3 500, 128mb) But it's worth it.

    Last, I can't WAIT for DNF to come out. I get a chubby just thinking about it.

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    -- Dan
  112. Super Monkey Ball and Pikmin (Gamecube) by EvlG · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Both of these games are amazing. My copy of Pikmin doesn't arrive until tomorrow, but the reviews look stellar.

    As for Monkey Ball, if you have a GCN, you need this game. Hell, if you are an avid gamer at all, you need this. Mega fun with 4 people, and quite addictive and enjoyable just by yourself or with your spouse. My fiance and I wasted all of Thanksgiving weekend on this one, and she doesn't even like games much.

    Gamecube is a lot of fun, but unfortunately, it hasn't gotten much attention from store employees and media with Xbox's release. But don't let the lack of enthusiasm from sales monkeys deter you; GCN is a boatload of fun (not to mention you can pick up the console AND these 2 games for the cost of one of the other consoles alone!) What a value!

    1. Re:Super Monkey Ball and Pikmin (Gamecube) by egomaniac · · Score: 2

      Woooo! Monkey Ball!!

      I second this. Super Monkey Ball is the best game I have played in years, and my wife likes it as much as I do. There's so much replay value that it's just insane -- seven (count 'em, seven) modes, most of which could stand alone as full-fledged games. Bowling, pool, golf, fighting, racing...

      Unlocking everything is unbelievably difficult, to the point that I'm not sure any amount of practice will ever let me get Master Mode, but I'm certainly going to try. I can already get through Advanced without dying, but Expert makes that look like a walk in the park. If any other game were this tough, I would just throw the controller at the wall and stop playing. But somehow Monkey Ball has just the right level of insane challenge -- it's not quite enough to make you give up in disgust, but the challenge level is so high that when you finally beat a really tough level you feel a real sense of accomplishment. It took me around fifty lives to get through Advanced Extra 5 the first time, but when I did I felt more satisfaction at beating that one level than in beating any other entire game. Plus, now that I've learned the right way to tackle the level, I can do it relativey easily -- it's not just a matter of luck.

      If you don't have it, go buy Monkey Ball now. Seriously. Go to the store now. Buy it. If you don't have a GameCube, pick one of those up too. And three more controllers. What, you're still reading this? Go buy it!

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  113. Patrician II by rednix · · Score: 1

    My favorite addictive game is Patrician II by Ascaron. Basically you are a merchant located in a town in the 14th century, being member of the hanse. You trade all over the baltic sea and the north sea, you fight pirates, build houses, manufactories, etc. and become mayor of your town... later you can you go on to explore america, etc... :) Check out Patricianworld for more info about Patrican II (no, I am not affiliated with that site). Also, the new add-on for Patrican II allows for internet play and has more cool features.

  114. Silent Hunter II by JThaddeus · · Score: 1

    My son has been waiting for this game for a year and a half and he is thrilled to finally have it up and running(see links on SUBSIM Review). A WWII submarine sim, you're a German U-boat commander in the North Atlantic. Graphics, realism, sound, etc. are orders of magnitude better than its DOS/Win3.1 forbearer, "Silent Hunter" (where you were an American sub commander in the Pacific). Real soon now should come "Destroyer Command" which can be played *against* SHII.

    Now, will they ever update "Command Aces of the Deep" for Windows?

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  115. TuxRacer for PC by Malduin · · Score: 1

    Don't forget. TuxRacer 1.0 is coming out before Christmas. I'm all over wanting to get TuxRacer and Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

  116. Trek Games! by Gambit+Thirty-Two · · Score: 2

    Star Trek Armada II just came out, and theres another came called Bridge Commander thats coming out sometime soon. Cant go wrong with Trek!

    1. Re:Trek Games! by Banjonardo · · Score: 1
      Please, PLEASE tell me you're being sarcastic.

      Elite Force, however, is my favorite FPS.

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  117. Pikmin and Others by MBCook · · Score: 1
    Well, here are the games that I want:

    • Pikmin
    • Super Smash Brothers Melee
    • Wario Land 4
    • Wolfensien
    • That's all I can think of for now...
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  118. Re:I asked for Uplink (AWESOME GAME) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have to agree, this is the best game since Neuromancer. I have ordered my copy already. This is by far better than anything out there currently, IMO

  119. Ride a bike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why should a pay 3000 for a motorized vehicle when I can pay 100$ for a bike which will go faster, AND has the added benefit of running on my own energy, so I don't gain a fat ass!?!

    1. Re:Ride a bike by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 1

      Why use email when I can write a letter. Why use cable when I can dial in. Why carry a cell phone when I can wait till I get home to call.

      It's the TECHNOLOGY, not the application, that is noteworthy. People here, of all places, should understand that.

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    2. Re:Ride a bike by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1
      Why use email when I can write a letter

      Because it's faster.

      Why use cable when I can dial in

      Why carry a cell phone when I can wait till I get home to call.

      Because it's faster.

      Why should a pay 3000 for a motorized vehicle when I can pay 100$ for a bike which will go faster

      Because it's faster. Oh wait no it's not.

  120. PC: Return to Wolfenstein and Dark age of Camelot by snmpkid · · Score: 1

    My suggestion for this years FPS is RTCW (return to castle wolfenstein) and for MMORPG i s Dark Age of Camelot.

  121. Black and White/Creature Isle by Artagel · · Score: 2

    These games deserve to be in a lot of X-mas stockings. Because the game allies you with a creature, you can get: (1) first person shooter (you shoot), (2) third person shooter (your creature shoots, largely based on how you train it), (3) roleplaying (be good, be evil, whatever), (4) real-time strategy (limited, game only lasts for 5 scenarios). Anyone who loves games for their variety has to try the interface these games have.

    1. Re:Black and White/Creature Isle by eddy · · Score: 2

      I have to post a warning here. I predicted, and I have found that many many players have come to agree with me, that Black and White is one of those games that are fun for a week. Then you don't want to see it ever again.

      Really. There's a few who really love it, but the vast majority (and this is my experience) will just drop it after one or two weeks, never to go back.

      (I really liked "god-games" back in the days of Populous and friends, but it seems like it's harder and harder to keep the players attention, now that the novelty has worn off)

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    2. Re:Black and White/Creature Isle by Artagel · · Score: 2

      If you want to play the game to beat the scenario, then you are absolutely right, there is probably about one week's worth in the game. You play the game with one creature and don't do a whole lot with the creature.

      Figuring out what is going on with the creature AI takes substantially longer than that. The variability of the results of the creature AI is pretty amazing. That said, the level of micromanaging the villagers need can be a pain in the butt to a lot of people. However, anyone who refused to use the governors in Civ. II, or SMAC (like me) doesn't find it that onerous.

    3. Re:Black and White/Creature Isle by Chazmyrr · · Score: 1

      The creature is really the only reason to play the game. Unfortunately, there are some fairly big problems with creature training. Many actions have a different result if you punish your creature before he does something instead of after. If you punish your creature while he is thinking of food, he will eat that type of food less often. If you punish your creature afterwards, it usually causes your creature to be less hungry. The game doesn't tell you what he's thinking of eating, so if he's running towards a field worked by villagers near a herd of animals, you don't know which he's going after.

      Then there is the reason why the creature is eating. Usually it's because he's hungry but sometimes it's because he's depressed. If you don't want your creature to eat because he's depressed, you need to punish him. The problem is that you have to guess that that is why he's eating.

      Then there is the whole good/evil thing. I trained a creature to do nothing but help villagers. His every waking thought was "I want to be nice to people." He healed villagers, planted/harvested trees, watered crops, anything helpful he could think of. He was also 100% evil because rather than hand feed him, I trained him to eat fish. This was seen as evil either because it was stealing from the villagers or because it was gluttonous to eat that much fish at once (I had a full grown tiger). The evil from eating to replenish all the energy spent helping the village accumulated faster than the good from helping the village. Meanwhile, I'm sacrificing newborns to power miracles and I'm 100% good because the good from casting mass heal accumulated faster than the evil from human sacrifice. Go figure.

      The game had huge potential. It just didn't live up to it. I guess they figured they'd patch it later.

  122. Just say Text based by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These kids today have it so easy... 3D...

    More HP under it a computer then a 429 Cobrajet which could turn the tires of the day in to 14" smokebombs...

    So what to do with all of the CPU power... Give them the magic of text games...

    Zork...

    Let the figure out that xyzzy has real meaning..

    Give nethack...

    Rouge..

    You get the idea...

  123. Wave Race - GameCube by deadsquid · · Score: 1
    Having been an addict of the first go-around, I was initially disappointed with the GameCube version. I found the control to be lacking, because I kept getting swatted around and missed pylons repeatedly - very annoying - I was coming in third and fourth in races. I was used to fluid motion and control, and zipping around the tracks in no time flat.


    After a few plays, I realized I was getting pushed around because the physics were a lot better than it's predecessor. Water and weather effects have a substantial impact on gameplay, and the addition of the turbo (applied at the right time, of course) makes near-losses into close shaves.


    I get a big kick out of it, and think it is, given the lack of press it's been given, a very underrated game well worth the $.


    On the PS2 side Tony Hawk 3 is ok single player, but if you mastered the first two, it's a weekend of play. The online play is cool, but dunno if it makes up for the $50 price tag, and I wish they had supported 802.11b usb adapters. Still, getting together with folks online (finally) with the PS2 is fun.


    I just wish Wipeout was available. That's what I bought the stupid PS2 for last year. Anyone from Psygnosis reading and can give a hint or six as to when it is expected?

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  124. Trainz!!!!! by Svet-Am · · Score: 1

    All I really want for Christmas is Trainz by Auran and Strategy First...

    Oh the hours I will widdle away with that one recreating our local lines...

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    1. Re:Trainz!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi

      I must say that I agree.

      Having played the beta version of it, I am really surprised by how much fun it actually is. I was quite sceptical at first but the Auran team has built a really sweet world editor that lets you lay tracks, roads, lakes, tunnels and then paint on all the textures and then you can ride around in what you just built. It is definitely worth a look for XMas - www.virtualtrainz.com.

      Later,
      A

      PS - I love Quake, CS, Wolf etc but this is fun in a different kind of way. It really hooks you in.

  125. LSL by donabal · · Score: 1

    What ever did happen to the leisure suit larry series?

    Graphics cards have advanced so much since the last revision... there should be another!

    And if it was around... I'd want that first.

    Then CIV3... but i've already had it.. in its unadulterated tin glory! (yea! it comes in tin!)

    --donabal

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  126. Super Monkey Ball by magicsquid · · Score: 1

    I'd highly recommend picking up Super Monkey Ball if you've gotten a GameCube. If you haven't gotten a GameCube, I'd recommend picking up one of those two, while you're buying Super Monkey Ball. There are many many play modes (Main -think Marble Madness, Practice, Competition - multiplayer main, Monkey Race, Monkey Fight, Monkey Target - monkey hangliding, trying to hit a target, Monkey Billiards, Monkey Bowling, and Monkey Golf). The single player is deep, and gets extremely difficult on the expert setting. There are at least 93 different boards on the main mode. This game is the perfect party game. No one I know who has seen or played a game of Monkey Bowling has gone away unsatisfied. When it comes right down to it, a game with monkeys inside of balls cannot be anything other than great.

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  127. GameCube: Pikmin by Darth+Maul · · Score: 2

    The creator of Mario and Zelda created a real-time strategy game where you are a spaceman who crash landed on a planet, and with the help of hundreds of little native creatures (Pikmin) you have to gather your spacecraft parts. Preview

    Looks quite impressive. A creative approach to the RTS genre that I'm sure will attact a large range of players. Will be released tomorrow here in the US. I know it's on my Christmas list! ;)

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  128. Only two by maxxon · · Score: 1

    The only two big names that haven't slipped until 2002 are Civilization 3 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Both are excellent.

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  129. Re:PLAYSTATION: Don't overlook cheap shit. by Geekboy(Wizard) · · Score: 1

    you damn right....i got soul reaver:legacy of kain a few months ago, and i couldn't put it down. i only inturuptted my soul reaving by gettting a new computer, firewall and DSL within a month. but once i get my system working (to my specs) i'm gonna beat kain like a little bitch.

  130. Super Monkey Ball is the shiznit. by yunfat · · Score: 1
    Of all the games, the only must have this Christmas is Super Monkey Ball. Although the "Main Game" may get repetitive, the multiplayer modes have many of my friends chanting the praises of the gamecube.

    On a personal note, its nice to see SEGA out of the Dreamcast debacle and on to better things.

    The other must have is RTCW... busting through axis defenses hasen't been this much fun since Combat Mission. http://www.combatmission.com/

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  131. avp2 kicks ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it really does.

  132. News for Fat Asses by gr3g · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure that IT is something this society really needs right now. Think of how many people are overweight and could use any walking they can get. Now think of what they will be doing with that scooter. Now people will get the opportunity to never actually use their own muscles.[sarcasm] wow, sign me up. [/sarcasm] I imagine the future just got a little wider.

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  133. Good Console Games by LordZardoz · · Score: 1

    On the Game Cube end of things, Rogue Leader and Super Monkey Ball are excellent. Also look into Pikmin and Super Smash Brothers. Really, who doesn't want to take Bowser and stomp the hell out of Pikachu?.

    On the XBox, Project Gotham Racing, DOA3, Halo, and Amped are all good. Just make sure that the recipient actually likes a given game type before getting it for them. If they hate racing games, dont get a racer.

    On the PS2, other then Metal Gear Solid 2, I am not qualified to offer an opinion due to lack of first or even 2nd hand knowledge.

    A word on console sports games. The 3 consoles are going to look nearly identical. If there is not an obvious graphics or feature advantage, then make your decision based on the controller. If the game feels better on the Game Cube then the XBox, and the recipient owns both, get him the Cube version.

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  134. Depends on the system... by BenSnyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since us gamers just got the early Christmas of a lifetime with the release of the Xbox (hush your mouth) and Gamecube, not to mention the amazing games that are flooding the market for the PS2, it's going to be hard NOT to buy a good game/system for Christmas. Anywhoo... here are some suggestions on games to get (or avoid) for Christmas.

    Playstation 2
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    Metal Gear Solid 2: Yes, it's as bad assed as it wants to be. The intro looks like something from Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer's wildest imaginations. The game itself is pretty dang fun even if I do keep getting confused on which button does what (play it, you'll see what I mean). I want to play this game some more, but there's so much more to see!

    NFL 2K2: This game is hands down the best looking football game I've ever seen. If you can handle the slightly more arcade type feel to the game, it has it all over Madden 2002. It sure would be nice to have some equivalent of the Madden Cards but even without it - this is one helluva football game. You can't coach that.

    Gran Turismo 3: Okay, yes this game has been out for six months now, but I had to put some more time into it after playing Metropolis Street Racer for the Xbox. This game is damn near flawless. Well, with the exception of a lack of skid marks (almost unforgivable), crash modeling, and complete lack of ability to turn up the volume on the background music (really). Outside of that, the cars handle just like you think they would - and this game is deep enough to keep you busy for months. Literally. If you're going to own one driving game, this is it.

    Grand Theft Auto III: I don't mean to rain on anybody's parade but please, give me a friggin' break. The way people were talking about this game, you'd of thought that it'd be fun. Marketed as a 'mature' game, I guess a large part of the fun of this game is suppoed to come from all the bad things you can do. Hmm... maybe I haven't gotten far enough in this game (roughly 6-7 hours into it) but picking up a hooker (read: woman with fishnet stockings) to take her to a policeman's ball isn't criminal - it's a taxi service. I was thinking this would be a criminal Shenmue type game, but it's just not there. The palatte of colors used in the game is muted, the storyline isn't that engaging, in short - I don't get the appeal of this game. I'm sure some of you will LOVE it, but if I'm going to spend several hours driving around, I'd just as soon drive in a game with realistic handling. Skip it.

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    Halo: I'm not the biggest fan of first person shooters. Personally, the last time I spent a lot of time on one was when 007's Goldeneye came out for the N64. But Halo pretty much rocks. It's the best looking FPS I've seen, and it has a high nervous quotient to it in the beginning because you just get dropped into the action - so you have to learn everything on the fly. I've only spent an hour with this game, but it deserves some more time.

    Oh, and Penny Arcade has a great comic about it.

    NASCAR Thunder 2002: I know what you're thinking... it's NASCAR. And you're right. But it's also one fun racing game. They've crammed 43 cars onto one track, built in a nice drafting system and they put you on the NASCAR tracks and let you go to it. It's pretty fun to start a race in the middle of the pack and to be passing cars the entire race. If you like to race, this is a great game.

    Project Gotham Racing: Do you remember Metropolis Street Racer on the Dreamcast? No? Shame on you. Yes? Well, this is like MSR 2. It's really good. It looks good, the sound is awesome and there are enough tracks and cars to keep you busy for the next 3 months. It has a kudos system to reward good driving, and the game demands expertice to beat it. It's a really fun title.

    Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2x: I'm a Tony Hawk freak. Ever since THPS1 on the Dreamcast, I've logged more hours on THPS games than any other game I can remember playing with the exception of some Final Fantasy games - or maybe some game for the NES back in the day when I didn't have anything better to do. I own a bunch of them, THPS 1 and 2 on the Dreamcast, THPS3 on the PS2, THPS2x on the Xbox and THPS3 on the Gamecube. So I feel TOTALLY qualified to say what's right and wrong with this game. And this game has an issue - it's the controller. The Xbox controller is about the size of New Hampshire. It's friggin' huge. I just haven't gotten used to the controls on this game yet. Otherwise, this is THPS 2 on the DC with marginally better graphics, a few new areas on existing levels to explore, a new menu system, supposedly THPS 1 is in the game somewhere - so you can now manual throughout that game (they added the manual after THPS 1) and there are six new levels. It's fun, but if you have THPS 1 and 2 for the Playstation or Dreamcast already... you can pretty much pass this title up.

    Dead or Alive 3: This game is basically Dead or Alive 2 with better graphics. I've never been a huge fan of this series because I personally like to beat the crap outta people without having to be graceful about it. And best I can tell, DoA3 asks for grace. You have to know just when to block, just when to counter and just when to attack. There's no run-away command to back up quickly, so everything is pretty much hand to hand short distance combat all the time. It's fun for about 10 minutes, but then I just want to play Soul Calibur for the Dreamcast - if I'm going to play a fighter.

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    Luigi's Mansion: Okay, I thought this was a dumb as hell idea for a game. Give Luigi a vacuum cleaner and a flashlight and let him run thru some mansion stunning ghosts so he can suck them up in his vacuum cleaner. But I have to admit, this game is fun. It brings back some of that original Mario feel to a 3D game. It's silly, and ultimately, pretty stupid, but give it up for the game and the system. I woke up this morning wanting to play it some more. And now that I've finished it - I have to admit - it's one of the best looking games I've ever seen. Seeing Bowser rendered in all his 3D splendor alone was worth the purchase.

    Rogue Squadron II: This is supposed to be the game that got everybody's juices flowing when they saw it. And it comes pretty damn close to the hype that preceeded it. The original Rogue Squadron came out for the N64, and that game was bad ass. This game is just as cool. It looks at times just as good or better than the Star Wars movies. This isn't like Star Wars Starfighter on the PS2 where you can do barrel rolls while flying your craft. Starfighter feels a bit more like a sim game, where you really have to have skills to blow stuff up. This game is all about recreating the fun of the dogfights from the movies. The explosions are amazing. And when you fire a missle down a shaft, you see the light from the missle light up the shaft as it flys down it... majorly cool. This game is way fun. And the sound is amazing. Add to that, this is the first game I know of that has a making of documentary built in, and you've got a title that you pretty much need to own if you have a GameCube.

    Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3: Like I said above, I rock these games. Off the bat, I like this game better than the PS2 version. Mostly because I could pick up the game without looking at the manual and I could trick all day long, so the controls are really good. There are a few issues with the game being too forgiving with landings or how you do tricks - but I almost prefer it to the PS2 version where everything has to be perfect. I guess maybe I'm just somewhat of a sloppy skater. But the game is super fun. If you're a THPS fan and have a Gamecube... consider this a must buy.

    Wave Race: I wasn't so sure about this game. I've never really liked any other wave race type games (the one for the N64 comes to mind) bascially because I was bad at it. The waves frustrated me, and there was nothing compelling enough about the title to make me put serious time into it. But this game changes all of that. The water is hands down the best, most amazing beautiful water in any game you've ever seen period stop end of discussion. It's that good. It looks great in all conditions. But when it's raining outside, it especially looks cool. The water will splash up on the camera and leave water marks. The graphics are gorgeous. Once I got the hang of the controls (not hard to master), this game totally rocked. This was the big surprise game for me. With tons of tracks, and tons of characters to choose from - I can already tell that this game will get some good play for weeks to come.

    Lastly, if you're on a budget, but you want to be happy-happy on Dec. 25th, go buy a Dreamcast and a bunch of used games. Systems run $80, and your typical used game goes for around $20. Try Soul Calibur, Crazy Taxi, NFL 2K2, Samba de Amigo, Shenmue, Sonic I & II, Virtua Tennis, Skies of Arcadia, THPS 1 & 2, Metropolis Street Racing, Ferrari 355 Challenge, and, Test Drive LeMans among the many other great games for this underappreciated system.

    Well, that's the wrap-up. Happy gaming.

  135. it's the hype by nanojath · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    what's irritating is the hype. and yeah, yeah, the inventor says he didn't want that... which considering the train of events, with the leaks and the big tech names and the book deal, seems suspect to me. nevertheless, the rhetoric was the supertech marvel world changing brave new world machine. well, what it is is a funky little rolling platform... and the performance I saw on good morning america did little to impress me. you're dreaming if you think this thing can do any serious power turns or off-roading. it's awfully slow and awfully heavy and just insanely expensive for what it is. a bike can completely replace a car for the dedicated commuter - my brother did this for years (in Minneapolis!) - and EVERYTHING in the USA is set up for the car/park/walk a mile paradigm - so is there really even a potential market for adding this third transportation phase? I'll say what a million other people have said - at 20 pounds and say $500 I would . The product , just in and of itself, is all very nice and nifty - enhanced stability, intuitive interface - but the premise that giving people the ability to triple their walking speed at about 1/3 the median cost of a fairly decent car is a stretch. I suspect it is going to be a very hard road out of the economy of scale valley for Ginger. you notice the thing has its defenders and detractors, but I have yet to see anyone go tot he extent of saying: I'm going to buy one. plunk down my $3000 and roll on home. will you?

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    1. Re:it's the hype by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 1

      It's been there for a while at $500 and 20lbs, they're called motorised scooters, look like Razor scooters with a little 1 horse motor on the back, go about 20km/h max, and are supremely easy on gas. OK, so they don't balance themselve, big deal. The Crazy Finn

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  136. Games I liked to play recently by Tom7 · · Score: 3, Informative


    - Chu Chu Rocket (Dreamcast)
    - Advance Wars (GBA)
    - Paper Mario (N64)

    Golden Sun for GBA looks really good. RTCW and Max Payne were pretty fun for the PC, but I think I am personally a sucker for bad single-player FPS games.

    1. Re:Games I liked to play recently by RoadWarriorX · · Score: 1

      I played Chu Chu Rocket also. It's fun to solve te puzzles. Recently, I played Mr. Driller for Dreamcast. Initially, I thought it looked stupid, but my fiancee bought it, so I played with her. I must admit, it caught my interest.

    2. Re:Games I liked to play recently by Nameles · · Score: 1

      Golden Sun IS good. It's not heavy on the story, but the battles are actually semi-interesting and don't get old quick (15 or so hours logged)

    3. Re:Games I liked to play recently by Whatever+Fits · · Score: 1

      - Chu Chu Rocket (Dreamcast)
      In Bengali, chu chu (spelled differently, of course) means something like "piss". Read your own inference into this one.

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    4. Re:Games I liked to play recently by frunch · · Score: 1

      Paper Mario is a GREAT game, and given that everyone is trying to get rid of their N64 stock, you should be able to pick up this game new / slightly loved for ~$20.

      Check out your local blockbuster, or hollywood video for some great used N64 games. Last weekend I got Indiana Jones for $10. (Which is about what it's worth)

    5. Re:Games I liked to play recently by SuperGrut · · Score: 1

      I picked up Paper Mario used for $7.99 at Blockbuster. It is great.

      I still see it new for $54 in some stores.

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  137. Dreamcast: Even cheaper shit. by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    Playstation is my love but this Christmas I'm buying myself a Dreamcast. At $50 each I just can't help it. Hey it runs Linux and keyboard, mouse, and net connection are available. Get the damn thing a decent PSX-style controller and it ain't half bad. Skies of Arcadia is the #1 game on my list for it and Omikron is a possible 2nd. Toy Commander looks like a fun 3rd. My only question.. did Bleem ever release their Final Fantasy discs for Dreamcast?

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    1. Re:Dreamcast: Even cheaper shit. by garyrich · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yep. Got one last week, couldn't resist. Stop at blockbuster on the way home to rent a game and they say they've stopped renting them (bad). Then he says they are selling the used ones for ~5$ each on an endcap (sweet!). Cheap is cool!

      Skies of Arcadia is indeed pretty col so far. Kind of ugly character designs, but that's life. Dead or alive has the best character designs -- my goodness, she really does kick high doesn't she?

      garyr

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    2. Re:Dreamcast: Even cheaper shit. by Night+Goat · · Score: 1

      I picked up Sega Smash Pack for $10 new a few days ago at Best Buy. It's a bunch of Genesis games set up to work on Dreamcast, plus Virtua Cop 2 and a game which kicks ass called Sega Swirl. You get Sonic, Golden Axe, and a bunch of others. I really only play Golden Axe and Sega Swirl right now though. But still, at $10, it is a good investment in fun.

    3. Re:Dreamcast: Even cheaper shit. by Ribo99 · · Score: 1

      Did the same. I've been playing Jet Grind Radio...it's super dope.
      Plus got MAMED working on it :)

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      I wear pants.
    4. Re:Dreamcast: Even cheaper shit. by funkhauser · · Score: 1

      I got a dreamcast this summer and I have to say I played it more than my PS2, despite awesome PS2 titles like Twisted Metal: Black (quite awesome) and NBA Street (also pretty good). Mars Matrix is awesome if you like old-school top-down shooters. Then there's the UFC game. You can pick it up and just beat the hell out of your friends, but it's a pretty deep game.

    5. Re:Dreamcast: Even cheaper shit. by Frosty*Jedi · · Score: 1

      Yeah, no kidding. I recently picked up Jet Grind Radio and Sword of the Berserk for under 20 dollars total! Definitely a great buy!

  138. Try The Longest Journey by ChiPHeaD23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    For you old-school adventurers out there. A great game that can be had pretty cheap, didn't sell too well due to poor marketing but got rave reviews from... pretty much everyone.

    Nice graphics, great speech, and a female lead who's not all about tight-fitting clothes and guns.

    More info here

    1. Re:Try The Longest Journey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, she's wearing really loosely fitting clothes in every screenshot and picture on that website.

    2. Re:Try The Longest Journey by SilentDissonance · · Score: 1

      I've got 3 people here at work hooked on this game. Great story, decent graphics, very involving.

  139. Games I bought myself by sam_handelman · · Score: 1

    I just started grad school and I buy myself a game whenever I take a test.

    Anyway, someone allready mentioned Civ III, and I second that. A design decision was made that simple-is-good, so in terms of the number of things that exist in the game, techs, units, bells and whistles for units to have, there are far less than in, say, Alpha Centauri. But, it's a big improvement in many, many, fundamental respects - it has whole new dimensions of play, which are simple yet profound. Personally, there are certain realism aspects (taking years for ships to circumnavigate the globe) that really annoy me, but the games very deep. It's also really difficult.

    Art of Magic: Magic and Mayhem II is an attempt to make Sacrifice (nearly a great game) playable. Unfortunately, it fails and completely lacks the entrancing graphic artistry of sacrifice, so don't bother.

    Pool of Radiance is a cute time waster. The game is a bit buggy, even with the patch, and their implementation of the D&D 3rd. ed rules is deeply flawed in a couple of respects (for those of you who are familiar, it won't let you pick your own skills and feats, and none of the really fun feats are even implemented.) Still, the parts of the game that take place on the surface are gorgeous in a technically uninspired kind of way, and the designs on the monsters and effects are solidly handsome and fun to look at. The big downside of the game is that big parts of it are just a dungeon crawl. There's a lot of very frank discussion abuot the merits of this game on the forums page (link above) which you might read before forking over fifty bucks.

    One game that has seen surprisingly little hype is a Diablo clone called Throne of Darkness. The game, while once again not a technical breakthrough in the graphics department, is just beautiful. Really, the graphics are art. They've done something so that everything looks like it was drawn with those ink brushes - it looks like those highly detailed japanese landscape paintings, except unfortunately for the grass which is ugly and over-detailed like in Diablo (ah well). Unfortunately, the game play is just diablo. In fact, it is exactly diablo; Sierra has some kind of deal to copy the engine (I forget where I read this.) You get four guys at once, but the only summonings suck.

    Finally, if you don't want to spend money, cosmic encounter online (which I tried to shamelessly promote as a Slashdot story, but it was rejected) is in development, and you can play as several races for free. No flares yet, but still.

    Sam

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    1. Re:Games I bought myself by Coz · · Score: 1
      I just started grad school and I buy myself a game whenever I take a test.


      Man, if I did that, I'd have 3 more games since September, and a MUCH lower GPA! You must be a full-time grad -I KNEW there was a reason I wanted to do grad school before getting a job/wife/kids - carrying a full load with those 3 is putting a serious crimp in my Everquest time - I'd never be able to fit in a new game.

      Well, maybe Star Wars Galaxies, when it hits... hope that's after finals next term :-)

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  140. Spy Hunter for PS2 by steveha · · Score: 3, Informative

    I just got Spy Hunter and it's a blast.

    20 years ago, Spy Hunter was a sprite-based top-down scrolling shooter. Your little car sprite would shoot the other little car sprites, or drop oil slicks in front of them. Sometimes you would drive a little boat sprite. You drove on an endless scrolling road (or sometimes river). (With Shockwave, you can play a version of the original Spy Hunter here.)

    Now, on the PlayStation 2, Spy Hunter is a 3D game. The camera is just above and behind your car. There are 14 levels to play, with multiple objectives per level. It plays a lot like Hydro Thunder, but with weapons.

    Drive into water, and the car morphs to a boat. Drive the boat up onto land it and morphs back to car. When the car takes too much damage, lots of parts explode off it and what's left morphs to an armored motorcycle! Even cooler, drive the motorcycle into the water and it morphs into an armored jet-ski! When you are driving the car/jetski, you don't have the full special abilities of the car, and you have reduced firepower, but you can play the level anyway; it's just tougher. Dock with the weapons van (or weapons boat) for a full repair of all damage and full ammo load.

    If you like Hydro Thunder you should like this too. I haven't had it long, but I don't think I will get tired of it, just as I'm not tired of Hydro Thunder. The gameplay is somewhat repetitive: you drive around shooting bad guys, you try to find the ramps that let you make the jumps, etc. But the level design is fun, and I don't seem to get tired of locking guided missiles on enemies and blowing them away.

    I have only two complaints about the game. 0) Most of the cinematic cutscenes are pretty boring (just a shot of your car making the getaway after finishing the level). 1) If you are a good player, it will probably take you 20 hours or less to finish all the levels. But as I said there is a lot of replay value even just playing the same levels over and over, plus it will take you many plays to find all the secrets and accomplish all the objectives. Once you have found all secrets and accomplished all objectives, that level unlocks for 2-player mode; in 2-player mode you both play, split-screen, at the same time. I haven't tried 2-player yet but it looks like a blast.

    The music is great. The rocking "Spy Hunter" soundtrack the "Peter Gunn Theme" by Henry Mancini, but remixed and with variations. I like the soundtrack so much that if they sell a CD of just the music, I'll probably buy it.

    GameSpot has a review. They like it but not quite as much as I like it.

    Recommended.

    steveha

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    1. Re:Spy Hunter for PS2 by buffy · · Score: 1

      I second this recommendation. I remember playing the original Spy Hunter after music lessons at the neighboorhood mall. This version is highly entertaining!

      I love the transform between car and boat, car and motorcycle, etc... Weapons are cool. Nice graphics.

      All in all, one of the few games worth the $$ to play.

  141. Re:PLAYSTATION: Don't overlook cheap shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or if you're already laid-off like myself, you can go the super cheap route using one of the free PsxEmu deals, then run those super cheap games on your 'puter.

    Personally I think console games suck. I started out with a 2600 back in the olden days, that was great fun. I then moved on to C64 and Amiga stuff. Now though, I dunno, I can't sit there and play some stupid-ass repetitive console game.

    So what do I play you ask? Well, not much really. If I play anything it's Q3 or maybe (rarely) Tribes2. With Q3 it's nice to just sit down for 30 minutes and kick some real people's asses, then get up and get back to real work... simple, quick, stress relief and you can gloat because those were real people not some dim-witted computer opponent.

  142. Serious Sam 2nd Encounter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Supposed to be out in the next couple of weeks.

  143. subject by geekoid · · Score: 2

    CmdrTaco, could you please take yourown advice and list the system names with your games.

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  144. For the GameCube by Snibor+Eoj · · Score: 1

    I have just three words:

    Super. Monkey. Ball.

    I swear, this is one of the most addictive console games I've ever played. The main game is fun, but gets tired after a little while. When it does, you've got six other games packed in there to fool around with for a while. I've already racked up many hours playing this game, and I expect to while away many more on it. (And it's completely appropriate for little kids, too!)

  145. other games not really mentioned by xavii · · Score: 1

    check out battle realms. it's a RTS and seems like it'll tide people over until warcraft 3.

    also, for xbox there is tony hawk 2x. it's tony hawk 2 and tony hawk 1 w/ manuals. then there are 5 new "xbox only" levels. it's hellah fun and i haven't stopped playing for a week.

    also, dragon warrior 7 is a throw back to old RPG's in the early 90's with graphics and music and length(supposed 100+ hours of gametime).

    i've also been playing alot of operation flashpoint and ghost recon for those "i wanna be a soldier, but don't have the real discipline" nights.

    xavii aka bob

  146. Super Smash Brothers: Melee by pXgray · · Score: 1

    The flagship game in Japan, Super Smash Brothers: Melee increased sales of the GameCube by 800%. Features include 20 of Nintendo's greatest heros, a slew of new characters to join the mix, new levels, and all sorts of fun features such as coin mode, and tournament mode.

    For those of you unfamiliar with Super Smash Brothers, it originally showed up on the N64 as a very simple fighting game. Looking at the controls you would see only 2 attack buttons, jump, grapple, and shield; very simple when it comes to the kind of complex fighting games you might see on PSX or DC. But simple it is not, as anyone who has played against a human opponent can tell you. What the game lacks in variety of controls, it makes up for in strategy and fun.

    This is a game that I recommend for any hardcore Nintendo fan, and anyone who owns a GameCube. It will rock your world, hands down.

    pxg

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  147. Retro gaming? by Paul+Lamere · · Score: 1

    I don't know about anyone else, but for me, there is nothing better at Christmas time than playing board games with family and friends.

    Any suggestions for new, interesting family board games for this year like Settlers of Catan , or Monopoly?

    1. Re:Retro gaming? by RoadWarriorX · · Score: 1

      I learned a new card game called 'fluxx' (http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Fluxx/Defaul t.html). It's neat because the rules and goal change dynamically. Good fun!

    2. Re:Retro gaming? by brain159 · · Score: 1

      oh yes, oh god yes! fluxx is one of the most enjoyable little moments of madness going. A very fun game to play "in the background" while relaxing and talking with friends. into the wee small hours of the morning. Fluxx is superbly fun. this page describes it nicely.

  148. Rogue Spear: Black Thorn by crow_t_robot · · Score: 0

    I am just a sucker for shooting people in the face.

    also, there are 14 new weapons including the M60...

  149. Lame? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting. /. posts articles rather regularly regarding energy saving machines and alternatives. Then when one is used in a rather novel way, badmouths it as a scooter.

    As an individual who uses a car and bicycle to get around, $.05 a day for all day, hell, even for $.05 an hour, would save me well over $10 a week. And potentially less polluting (although one could argue that how we produce our electricity (usually coal) is dirtier than producing and burning gasoline). Win win.

    Of course, TacoBell boy would probably rather we return to leaded gasoline. $3,000? My friend's last bicycle cost that much. At least this one is powered.

  150. SNES/Genesis by Kris+Warkentin · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I got a CD with about 500 SNES/Genesis/Gameboy ROMS on it as well as a couple of good quality emulators from a friend to give to my girlfriends kids. They love it.

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  151. Combat Mission by Wolf+Eyelash · · Score: 1

    A very good WWII tactical wargame for Mac and PC. Get the demo, then buy the game at: www.battlefront.com

  152. Uhh.... try Warcraft 3 for PC by torrenttrue · · Score: 1

    Warcraft 3 will be one of the biggest games released for PC ever. I'm quit surprised I didn't find that here... --Nate

    1. Re:Uhh.... try Warcraft 3 for PC by mickeyreznor · · Score: 1

      he said christmas, not sometime in 2002.

    2. Re:Uhh.... try Warcraft 3 for PC by Deathtoll · · Score: 2, Funny

      You probably didn't find that here because it won't be released in time for Christmas... unless you're talking about next Christmas.

    3. Re:Uhh.... try Warcraft 3 for PC by torrenttrue · · Score: 1

      Maby I'm mistaken, but isn't it being released this month? --Nate

    4. Re:Uhh.... try Warcraft 3 for PC by mickeyreznor · · Score: 2

      Yes, you are mistaken.

      Can't blame you for being confused, there's no mention of the release date anywhere of blizz's war3 site.

    5. Re:Uhh.... try Warcraft 3 for PC by torrenttrue · · Score: 1

      So, it's next year? Dangit. They made it public too early. --Nate

  153. Europa Universalis 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if your favorite geek watches too much history channel he/she might like this game even more than Civ. While Civ has historcal names it does not try and model anything from history- no matter how elite they are spearmen don't kill tanks and the Pyramids do not create granaries.

    EU2 OTOH has history at the core of its gameplay. It tries to model state development, war, diplomacy, imperialism and religious strife from 1419-1820 in a realistic way- and it does a prtetty good job. It has a real-time engine that this old turn-based gamer likes a lot and the game is awfully engaging plsu it can be modified very easily thanks to an open data strcture and event engine- it beat CivIII for my time hands down.

  154. You suck ;-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where do you get the time to play multiple games?? I can't scrape together an hour to play even one game!

  155. wowza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Panty Raiders

    Woowee, gotta loosen my jeans now.

  156. Civ III ate my soul... by Kris+Warkentin · · Score: 1

    so when my girlfriend finally kills me for playing it, I'll be doomed to eternal torment cleaning pollution outside my cities....

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    1. Re:Civ III ate my soul... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a karma whore and I'm okay....
      I work all night and I post all daily
      I troll /. and flame Jon Katz..

      And you have less brainpower than a group of rats.

  157. Here are my recommendations... by koganuts · · Score: 2, Informative

    Playstation 2:
    You've already mentioned GTA 3 and Metal Gear Solid 2, which are absolute must-haves. Devil May Cry, Silent Hill 2, ICO, Tony Hawk 3, Spy Hunter, and Gran Turismo 3 are also worth picking up. As for party games, Frequency, WWF Smackdown: Know Your Role, and NBA Street are good candidates. Which reminds me, don't overlook the sports titles out there (I'm not a big sports nut but I do enjoy playing football games like Madden 2002 and NFL 2K2 as a change of pace every so often).

    Gamecube:
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader is a must-have. The second-to-last level, simply titled "Battle Above Endor," is breathtaking (my friends are always astonished at the sheer amount of chaos that occurs on that level). Wave Race: Blue Storm and Super Smash Brothers Melee are great party games. Luigi's Mansion is good, although people have complained that the completion time is rather short.

    Xbox:
    HALO and Dead or Alive 3 are must-haves and great party games. Oddworld: Abe's Odyssey is also worth picking up.

    Dreamcast:
    With the console's price slashed down to just $50.00, you can quickly stock up on a great collection of games. I was shocked that Space Channel 5 and Jet Grind Radio were less than $10.00 apiece at the local Best Buy last weekend.

    PS One and Nintendo 64:
    I've recently started picking up many games that I had previously overlooked which have now been heavily discounted (Castlevania: Symphony of the Night for instance). It might be worth filling some holes in your collection.

    I wish this list were more complete but all of my games are at home and I'm at work. :)

  158. Real War by Sanity · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I recently purchased "Real War", a real-time strategy game which is clearly inspired by the "Command and Conquer" series, but which strives for realism in terms of military hardware available today.

    In my opinion the C&C series went downhill since "Red Alert", the problem being that the game complexity kept increasing, allowing people to develop pre-cooked strategies which could only be defeated with other pre-cooked strategies, reducing the opportunity for creativity in playing the game.

    While I am still getting accustomed to it, I think Real War has the potential to get back to the simplicity that made the early C&C games so much fun. Combine that with impressive graphics, and the knowledge that the US military actually uses the software upon which this was based to train people, and I think we have the makings of the best RTS game yet.

    1. Re:Real War by jandrese · · Score: 2

      In my opinion the C&C series went downhill since "Red Alert", the problem being that the game complexity kept increasing, allowing people to develop pre-cooked strategies which could only be defeated with other pre-cooked strategies, reducing the opportunity for creativity in playing the game.

      What? Red Alert was pretty much the pinnacle of complexity for Westwood. (Unless you count the Red Alert expansion pack). Since then games like Red Alert 2 and CC:TS seem to focus a lot more on a few strategies (especially RA2, fortunatly the expansion pack gives you much more flexibility). Heck, RA2 comes with a little cardboard standup with a few of the "recommended" strategies on it (although they tend to be dumb strategies).

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  159. Rollercoaster Tycoon by radixzer0 · · Score: 2

    Have to forgive the lameness penalty it gets for having "tycoon" in the title. This game just freekin rocks. Addictive, fun, intuitive interface, and very well packaged into a great game. And it's been out long enough that you can pick up a (legal) copy for less than $20.

    Plus hey, i even got my wife to play it!

    -r0

  160. PS2 - Devil May Cry by Malic · · Score: 1

    I just finished off Devil May Cry. Great graphics, cool action, and all attitude.

    Well, it can get corny here and there - Dante's asides are bit over the top.

    But if you like a game that you can pick up after work, do a few missions, put down, and come back to the next day and not have to ask yourself "Where was I again?!", DMC is the best this year.

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  161. Shadows of Luclin by IMZombie · · Score: 1

    enough said. EQ rocks since half the population is playing DAoC now!

  162. Space Flight/Combat Sims by Deathtoll · · Score: 1
    I beat Freespace 2 a while back, and now I want another space combat sim.

    The last few that came out that I can think of were Starlancer, Tachyon: The Fringe, and Allegiance.

    I passed up all of these to purchase X-Wing: Alliance.

    Comments?

    Recommendations?

    1. Re:Space Flight/Combat Sims by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 1

      Idependence War 2: The Edge of Chaos. Sequelt o the best space sim (and I do mean SIM) that nobody played. Think cool storyling, big ships with big guns and real physics, even a helper mode for those who only grok Wing Commander physics. The Crazy Finn

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  163. Bleh by Greyfox · · Score: 2

    If it's not capable of at least 200 mph I'm not interested.

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  164. Don't know why I don't see this more by wizarddc · · Score: 1

    But Dynasty Warriors 3 is out for the PS2. It's a third person slasher, set in medieval japan, where three clans and their warlords battle it out in actual historical settings.

    The cool part is it's 2 person co-op (or vs., if you swing that way) so you and you buddy can go can lay the smacketh down in stereo. This was a staple last summer with my friends, each of us taking a turn per stage in DW2, but now it's twice the fun. I HIGHLY recommmend this to anyone with, um, friends...

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  165. From small houses... by Stonehand · · Score: 1

    Some of these may be from this year, but since they're from smaller companies don't get that much publicity they're easy to overlook.

    Malfador's Space Empires IV (Gold version due in February or so, but the original is darn good), published by Shrapnel. It's a 4X space game, and focuses very heavily on depth and customizability versus flash. Want to replace the tech tree wholesale? Customize your race to be lousy at combat, but rake in the resources and trade? Create a system type featuring unusually powerful black holes? You can, if you like. It's been out for a while, but the publisher and developer are still supporting it.

    Illwinter's "Dominions" is a fantasy 4X, that some have compared to Master of Magic. Ritual magic, combat spells, item construction, combat formations, god customization, 14 very different (not mirror-image...) races to choose from... Also still in active development -- e.g. I've gotten helpful responses regarding bugs and questions sent via e-mail, and they're still patching to fix bugs and add features.

    Battlefront's "Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord" is fairly old -- "CM: Barbarossa to Berlin" might be out sometime next year -- but still very good for 3D WWII tactical (up to Battalion-sized, say) warfare, with a nice WEGO system. It's very, very detailed, although you don't really have to memorize armor slopes... CMBO is not in active development anymore since they've been busy on the sequel, but the forum community is still active.

    All three of the above support both solo- and multiple players (CMBO only two at a time, Dominions 14, SE4 not sure what the limit is if there is one).

    There's also A-Sharp's "King of Dragon Pass", which seems intriguing. I can't comment on this too much since I've only seen the demo, but a (the?) dev has been spotted on USENET answering questions about it occasionally. It might be of interest to Runequest/Glorantha fans in particular.

    The demo reminded me vaguely of the old Hammurabi decision-making game, if for some reason anybody remembers that (e.g. "101 BASIC Computer Games"). Of course, this one is FAR more complicated...

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  166. Everquest: Shadows of Luclin by wal · · Score: 1

    Sony will debut Shadows of Luclin on the 4th. It should be a nice upgrade. I am not thrilled about the 256MB RAM requirement (512 recommended) but I can't wait for the new graphics.

    I am sure most EQ addicts will run out and buy it as soon as they can so it might not make the best gift. How about those memory and video card upgrades. They make nice gifts too.

  167. HAlO-XBOX / Marathon-MacOS 68K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you were (are) a Marathon series junkie, I'd say there'd be no contest for HALO, though you'd have to justify pesky moral issues like selling your soul to M$.

    But if you've never been a Marathon junkie, then there's no better time to get addicted!:

    http://source.bungie.org/

  168. No one mentioned BGDA? by mickeyreznor · · Score: 2

    Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance

    The baldur's gate games have never missed their mark, and I'm eagerly awaiting this one. This one looks like it'll be diabloesque, but with actual role-playing involved, rather than just a click-fest(or in this case button-mash) arcade game.

  169. harpoon by alumshubby · · Score: 2

    I'm thinking of giving myself the gift of Harpoon 97 online for Xmas.

    Harpoon is a series of naval-warfare simulation "games." I wasn't Navy, but ever since I read Tom Clancy's novel The Hunt for Red October, which the original Harpoon wargame was used to help develop, I've been fascinated at the idea of simulating a modern naval battle via software -- not just the surface-warfare element, but the air, submarine, and amphibious ones too.

    My fondest dream is that either a bunch of people develop a GNU version, or that the code someday winds up placed in the public domain and naval-warfare-enthusiast geeks seize upon it, port it to the *x platforms, and extend it further. I fancy a small group naval-warfare geeks gaming over the 'net with this to win the Battle of Midway for the Imperial Japanese Navy.

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  170. Now that's odd by AppyPappy · · Score: 1

    He capitalizes games but not Christmas. That's a good way to skipped by the jolly fat guy on Dec 25. You got to give Santa his props if you want to see some loot under the old evergreen.

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  171. Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds (Windows) by Glenn2372 · · Score: 1

    I recently picked up Galactic Battlegrounds and I'm having a blast with it. Sure, it's the same engine as AoE plastered with Star Wars stuff, but the game is very different in terms of strategy. Practically EVERYTHING is ranged based (lasers are cool) as opposed to knocking on the enemies walls and and hacking it down. The introduction of air units also takes out the invulnerability of walls. The Six different civilizations are all unique, yet very balanced. Not having to learn all the nuances of a new style of game makes for quick enjoyability as opposed to spending two weeks just figuring out how to play the thing.

    Besides, being able to be the Empire with AT-AT's on Hoth is just plain sweet.

  172. What about violence? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    I've been looking for some nice mindless violence for some time now. The problem is, most games want me to shoot at monsters, zombies, aliens, robots or other stupid things. Why?? how do they think i can relax and lower my stress by shooting at a stupid make-believe character? no. I need something based on real life. looking through my rifle scope as i pick off innocent bystanders. beating policemen to the ground until they bleed and then gibbing them with some explosives. Shooting tossers in the back of the head and watching them fall to the ground, and generally running things over and blowing stuff up.

    So far the only game i've found to satisfy my needs is GTA3, which does this brilliantly. (and also provides some sort of storyline thing for when i get bored). I think the best aspect of GTA3 is the little classical radio station that provides a _perfect_ background for some mindless violence (alla Gary Oldman in Leon). Also a good thing, is the fact that i can shoot at both armed gangsters _and_ unarmed pedestrians because - sometimes a challenge is good, but other times i just want some free kills (candy from a baby). - oh yeah, why are there no children in GTA3? i was hoping for some good-for-nothing youths to smash up, or even the classic "oh no! my baby's buggy is rolling in the middle of the road" gag :). The lack of gibbing ability for bodies is an irritation, but the baseball-bat more than makes up for this.

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    1. Re:What about violence? by Morgoth_Bauglir · · Score: 1

      You don't get any points, but then, you just want to kill right?

      After about thirty seconds, you may start giggling uncontrollably, so don't play at work.

      http://www.bossmonster.com/games/antcity.html

    2. Re:What about violence? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      ROFL! :)

      So that's what channel 4 were talking about when they said they would make rich and culturally diverse alternative programs...

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  173. Two choices for gifts by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

    If they don't have Linux, but wish they did, get them the Mandrake Linux 8.1 bundle with The Sims.

    If they do have Linux, then get the Linux version of The Sims.

    If they don't have Linux and like Windows. Umm. OK, they're probably relatives or something, you can't choose those. Then, get them The Sims Hot Date.

    If they don't have a computer, get them a GameCube or a Sony PS2. And have another relative get a game for them with that.

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  174. How about good (and) old sims for Christmas? by ccontrol · · Score: 1

    Years ago, I've been into military simulations like Falcon 3.0 and F-15 Strike Eagle II. As years went by, simulations have become ever more realistic (take Jane's F-15, F/A-18, Longbow 2 or Hasbro's Falcon 4.0), though I haven't had time to play them. Unfortunately, the days of the ultra-realistic flight-sims are counted.

    That's why I have bought Longbow 2 and Falcon 4.0 on e-Bay, have downloaded all the patches from the internet and very much look forward to playing these sims during my Christmas holidays. In addition, my computing power these days is much more appropriate for Falcon 4.0 than it was when this program appeared new on the market.

  175. Games... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being something of a retrogamer, I was thrilled last year when a friend of mine gave me an original copy of the ZORK trilogy (with the little zorkmid thingy they gave out, even!)...

    That's for PC, naturally.

    This year I'm hoping for a Hacklopedia of Beasts set (www.kenzerco.com) for my HackMaster games. Those, naturally, are tabletop format.

  176. Gran Turismo 3, PS2 by Platupous · · Score: 1

    Who wouldn't like to take their own car out to real racetracks? Fly along at 130 Mph in their XXX HP Miata/Teg/Imepreza/{Your car here}, at Laguna Seca?

    Excellent graphics, phenomenal car simulation, endless fun.

    C'mon is their really any contest?

  177. Lame scooter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you serious?

    If you had 1/10 of the intelligence, drive, and creativity that the creator of that thing has, you'd be doing a hell of alot more with your life than running this shitty website.

    1. Re:Lame scooter? by el'gwato · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Coward, need i say more!
      Fuck it i will
      WALK DAMN YOU!

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  178. Hell, I'd be happy if Blizzard by zrk · · Score: 1

    released a Starcraft patch for the random lockup problem they have under Win2k!

    Anyone hear about one coming? It's the primary reason I still have Win98SE on my machine.

    1. Re:Hell, I'd be happy if Blizzard by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 1

      I run SC under Win2k. I do not have this problem now. When I exit the game, my system freezes for about 1 to 10 seconds, interval random, but it always unlocks. I am using a 650MHz Athlon with 1/2 gig of ram. What's your config, and have you checked on the status of this bug lately?

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    2. Re:Hell, I'd be happy if Blizzard by ryuko · · Score: 1

      I run SC under Win2k. When I exit the game, the system doesn't freeze, but the executable won't exit cleanly. Walked through with tech support for 2 months before they gave up. Since the executable won't exit cleanly, my system (if I just leave it up after SC) will BSOD after a few minutes. That's about the only reason I don't play SC more...

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    3. Re:Hell, I'd be happy if Blizzard by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 1

      How much memory do you have? I have 1/2 a gig of ram, and mine does exit eventually. Like 1 to 5 seconds, some (rare) times as long as 10 seconds.

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  179. Halt....commmon sie.....ausweiz by acomj · · Score: 2

    stop.. come here .... pass please

  180. Board games by kallisti · · Score: 1
    If you are looking for a list of good games, pick up the December issue of Games Magazine . It has the annual Games 100, which lists all kinds of excellent games.(List available here)


    I would recommend Lord of the Rings, it is designed by Reiner Knizia, one of the world's greatest game designers. In it, you must work together to destroy the ring, while the game itself represents Sauron's evil minions. The dynamics work really well, the game gets tense and exciting, particularly near the end. It is also the most beautiful board game ever.


    On a different note, check out Cheap-Ass Games. They're sold on the idea that you'll already have tokens and dice and such from other games. These items are what makes a game expensive (~40 bucks, generally). Cheap-ass games are typically sold in paper pouches for 5 bucks. The games themselves are usually well-designed, funny, and for that price, what do you have to lose? Try Kill Dr. Lucky or any of the zombie games (zombies working fast-food, with one brain between them...)

  181. Re:PLAYSTATION: Don't overlook cheap shit. by GigsVT · · Score: 2

    If you mean Carma 2 for PC, wasn't it incredibly buggy for you? I bought it for about $30 a few years ago and it was terrible. You had to hack your own cd to get it to work in most cdroms, with a copy-protection disable crack that was put out by the original authors.

    The copy protection really screwed up that game, it should teach them a lesson for being idiots, and believing the marketing hype from safedisk.

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  182. Mechanical pong by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 1

    unless you count some lame overpriced scooter...

    When I was 11 I got a mechanical pong game for Christmas. That's right, mechanical...A tv-shaped box with a frosted screen, behind which a moving arm with a light on the end of it swept back and forth (quite audibly, I might add). We chased the light with a little paddle that was moved with pulleys and string.

    Over the years I've seen many useless upgrades come and go...video pong and "tennis" hardwired into a game console, more flexible consoles that accepted cartriges, even better consoles with high speed, 3-D graphics, etc. But I've never understood why I should shell out my hard earned cash for a lame overpriced Playstation, Nintendo, or X-box when my old mechanical Pong box works just fine. Those dumb games will never amount to anything because I see no need to own one.

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  183. Older games by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2

    I'd also consider some of the older games that have reached the "Classics" or bargian shelves:

    Some that come to mind are:

    Dark Forces II
    Rogue Squadron
    Doom (Final Doom Boxed set)
    Sim City 3000
    Flight Simulator Classic (or 2000 now that a new version is out)

    For older retro gamers. besides a MAME complaition (already mentioned in another post), there are:

    Atari Arcade Classics - Silver Aniv. Edition
    MS Arcade, Return and Revenge of Arcade

    There are a lot of great games that are a few years old - they may not have the mind blowing graphics of today's games, but what they lack in graphics they often make up for in game play. You can get quite a few presents without blowing a budget.

    Finally, there's always setting up some emulators (NES/SNES/Sega Master System) and a few ROM sets - there were some great console games, such as Yoshi's Story, the original Zeldas, Sonic, as well as arcade hits such as Dig Dug for those machines - why not turn someone on to a whole new gaming experience? You can even pick up carts cheap at used game stores, to keep your ROM images "legal (sort-of)".

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  184. Even Better, Spy Hunter for Palm by beerits · · Score: 1

    see subject and http://www.pocketexpress.com/Catalog/Product_Pages /spyhunter.shtml

  185. Dreamcast by MasterVidBoi · · Score: 1

    The dreamcasts are being blown out everywhere for $50, and the accessories and games are just as cheap. For those that don't already own one, this is a deal that you simply can't pass up. While the graphics aren't up to par with the xbox, if that concerned you, you wouldn't still be playing Super Mario Bros on your NES emulator...

    I haven't bought a console since the Sega Master system, cicra 1986, but now that I'm a poor college student, PC gaming is just a bit too expensive. My parents offered me an xbox with no games or accessories for christmas as my primary present, so I chose a tricked out DC instead. My list:

    Dreamcast bundled with some games, Extra DC controller, DC Memory Card, DC VGA Adaptor, Skies of Arcadia, Shenmue, Grandia 2, Soul Caliber, Bomberman Online, Metal Gear Solid, Chu Chu Rocket, Worms Armageddon

    All this comes out to about US$270. The console, enough great games to fail me out of school through the end of next year and an extra controller, all for less than the cost of a bare XBox or PS2.

    Now, can someone else suggest a few more great games I should pick up? (preferably bargain bin, $20 or less, although not really required)

  186. Can't believe I haven't seen it yet... by kacp · · Score: 1

    ...the new expansion for Everquest, Shadows of Luclin, is out soon, and the servers will open tomorrow, December 4th. Though I still prefer playing a nice, text based mud over Everquest, many of my mudding buddies have been lost to EQ. True, for most of the rabid fans, you'd have to buy it as an early present, but still...

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  187. Weee Christmas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well since I got a job they became more interesting, since I can buy most of the things I want.
    Recently I bought BG2, and I didn't like it too much (don't hit that halbeard on my head pleeeease!), I guess I am more of a final fantasy type of guy (or an old eye of the beholder type).
    I _was_ waiting for Command & Conquer Renegade (the guys over westwood said november and then they said BETA TESTING in NOVEMBER!!!!),
    FIFA 2002 looks delicious but my Voodoo 3000 won't play it (because I don't like sports games), Spiderman is very likely to be on my christmas list, and so Harry potter for my gameboy color if it turns out to be an rpg-like game (I love gameboy color :P)
    But seriously, I want to play an oldstylish adventure game. The new ones are surely very extravaganzza (like schism) but guys? Where is Sierra's lovin characters? What happened to gabriel's affair? Where are the aliens that kidnapped Larry at the open sea? Where is Roger?
    I always remembered that christmas were the times of a new Sierra game that you could play up over and over again just for the fun. (And surely legend don't respond anymore)...

    Oh well past Christmas ghost mixedup with futuristic graphics...

    [Offtopic] Anyone played kingdom of magic? Maybe the Silicon Graphics CGI were lame-o but the game did had the best comedy of Lord of the rings i've ever seen...

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  188. Re:Wolfenstein--Dont Play Before Bed!! by MrWinkey · · Score: 1

    I would suggest the same as doom and the original Wolfenstein do not play before bedtime. I forgot and played it and then went right to bed to surreal nightmares about sneaking around and shooting Nazi's with a silenced submachine gun. I then woke up drenched in sweat and had a hard time going back to sleep. The next day my girlfriend laughed and taunted me for hours, little does she know that I can always blame it on the game if I go crazy.

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  189. WarCraft III is a reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.blizzard.com/war3

    This has been out for a while now... and looks pretty good too

  190. THPS3 and evil marketers by chizzad · · Score: 1

    My problem is that Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 does not come out for the PC until March 2002. It is out for the playstation NOW. So the choices are: Buy a PS2 and submit to evil marketers or wait. Waiting is difficult.

    Well, maybe they will actually have internet play and make the game stable this time. Unlike...... THPS2

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  191. Old School Stuff by Murdock037 · · Score: 2

    Looking for something on the cheap?

    I was a kid who grew up on Nintendo-- unfortunately, like most 6-year-olds I knew, my meager allowance couldn't cover the fifty bucks or so to buy each of the cool games we played at friends' houses. And if you remember the huge library of NES games, you know there was plenty to want.

    Anyways, a couple years ago I got my girlfriend at the time an NES console, as hers had broken some years earlier, and about five games from Funcoland. The whole package set me back about thirty-five dollars, and I even included another gift certificate to round it up to an even fifty so she could buy a few I didn't think of.

    I spent a whole day devoted to playing Super Mario Bros. 3 straight through, no warping. It was as much fun as I remembered.

    And how about the original hockey game, just called "Ice Hockey?" Where there were three different player models: the skinny fast guy, the medium guy, and the fat slow guy?

    Excitebike-- Need I say more?

    Of course, this is all only applicable if you've got a relative or significant other cool enough to appreciate something other than the shiny graphics of an Xbox or PS2.

    But it's fun. Cheap. Never goes out of style. Gotta love it.

  192. Picks of a long time gamer by Maul · · Score: 2
    Here are some of my picks, right now. Depending on what your tastes are, you may or may not find these enjoyable.


    Dark Age of Camelot (PC)
    This game is rather hefty in the system requirements department, but is a wonderful online RPG that just seems to have more character and enjoyability than Everquest.


    Metal Gear Solid 2 (PS2)
    This is a fun, and potentially challenging game.
    It is good, especially if you like complex story lines. Probably not quite as good as MGS1 because of the "Raiden" character, but still an awesome game.


    SSX Tricky (PS2/GC/X-Box)
    This is a nifty updated version of SSX, an excellent snowboarding game. Lots of fun, and
    this version now has new features, tracks, and "ubertricks." I think most of the family can enjoy this game as well.


    Luigi's Mansion (GC)
    It may be rather kiddy, but this game is tons of fun for the whole family. It is also nice to see
    Luigi get his own game for once.


    Mario Kart Super Circut (GBA)
    I think most people are familiar with Mario Kart.
    This is a sweet handheld adaptation of the game, that has lots and lots of tracks (all the tracks from the original SNES game are there). Lots of multiplayer fun.


    Dance Dance Revolution (PS)
    It has been out for a while, but this game really
    is totally addictive and fun. Those with mod chips can also import the superior Japanese versions of the game. There is also a "Disney Mix" available that is fun for kids to play.
    This really is another game that a family can enjoy.

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  193. Strategy Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Europa Universalis 2 and Civilization 3 in that order.:)

  194. Jump n Bump by tarzeau · · Score: 1

    better play this! fun for the whole family (4 player) www.jumpbump.mine.nu

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  195. Star Wars Galactic Battle - for PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think of it as AOE II Kings, but with Wookies and AT-ATs. Built on the same engine, has most of the same hot keys, etc.

    The reason I liked this game was because I didn't have to learn a new game paradigm all over again. You cna build X-wings, or Imperial troopers.

    Plus, you get to wipe out an entire race of Jar-Jar Binks in this game!

    GameCube: Lookin forward to Super Smash Bros. Very cool looking.

  196. Some picks and links for ya by Arkham · · Score: 1
    I have been playing Giants: Citizen Kabuto (review) lately, and it's a blast. You can think of it as three games in one. First, you play as the Meccs, then as the Sea Reapers, and finally as Kabuto himself, a 100-foot tall monster that attacks with a viscious belly flop, and simply eats his opponents to pick up health! When you get sick of it, there's a full multiplayer version as well. Think Starcraft in real 3D using the aforementioned races.

    It's been mentioned before, but Return to Wolfenstein looks amazing, and the multiplayer demo is a blast. I will refrain from recapping what has already been said about this cool looking game.

    I was watching TechTV's Extended Play recently on my TiVo and they had a Holiday Gift Guide show on games for the holidays. It discussed the PC, as well as PS2, GameCube, and XBox and made recommendations on games for all of them.

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  197. PS/PS2/DC/GCN/XBox - RedOctane Rental Programs by Ondo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't buy - just rent.

    Check out www.redoctane.com - they have a rental program similar to NetFlix. For a monthly fee you get a certain number of games out at any one time, and when you return one they send you the next one on your list. They have a great selection (including some imports), but it's pretty common for games to be out of stock for a while. For example I put Sonic Adventure 2 in my queue when I joined in late September, and recieved it in early November. I still haven't gotten Parasite Eve though, which I also added when I joined and which it now finally says is in stock. I haven't gotten any GameCubes games yet, and don't really expect them for a while.

    Still, it's been worth it. There are a lot of games that just don't take that long to finish. ICO, for example, was very fun first time through but I can't imagine wanting to play it again. It's also nice to not have to rely on reviews, but actually be able to easily check games out for yourself.

  198. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader by BedivereW · · Score: 1

    I see one possibility that has been overlooked so far, Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader. Possibly one of the best SW games out there. Too bad it is only available for the GameCube. Maybe we will lick out and it will be ported to PC. Defiantly in my top ten favorite games. I had to rent a GameCube to play it but it rocks. Check out the videos on their site. The audio is amazing too, direct out takes from the movies. Everyone will recognize the Death Star run by the way it seams to be modeled on the old CGA game. Be sure to check out the Screen Shots and Videos in the Gallery.

    http://www.lucasarts.com/products/rogueleader/defa ult.htm

  199. Re:Nazi Editors Have Bitchslapped Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your right to absolute free speech extends neither through my home's door, nor to the hardware Slashdot runs on. Sorry to burst your ill-informed little bubble.

  200. IBM-clones: RPGs - PS:T and BG2 by eddy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not new, but still the very best of the best: Planescape: Torment and Baldur's Gate 2.

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    1. Re:IBM-clones: RPGs - PS:T and BG2 by Jake96 · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear! I very much enjoyed Planescape: Torment, and my holiday present to myself will be enough play time to get through Baldur's Gate 2.

  201. No need for future tense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't finished it yet, but I'm on the 5th of 10 levels. I haven't really enjoyed a shooter since DOOM, but this game is absolutely awesome.

    Hate it because it's XBOX if you must, but frankly, it looks gorgeous on my mediocre 27" TV -- far better than Deus Ex on my 19" GeForce2 MX400 powered Athon 1.3 GHz PC.

    Halo rocks already.

  202. "scooter" IS in the topic by dgenr8 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So I trust this is NOT offtopic.... I just have to get this off my chest.

    The only explanation I can think of to explain the Slashdot editors' unwarranted negativism is that they got scooped and are having sour grapes about it.

    Not scooped in the literal sense, since I'm sure they knew about it long ago, but in the editorial sense: they made a bad decision in thinking that this story was irrelevant, and now they're going to defend it at all costs.

    By the way, one of those costs includes trying to influence your opinion.

  203. Wizardry 8 - Why Aren't All the Geeks Playing it ? by Blimbo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wizardry was the THE game back in the day. This was the first "real" computer game i ever saw being played and as i recall that was on the Apple II My UberGeek pal recieved a Diploma of sorts for finishing up or scroring high in one of the series. IIRC. I was never a huge geek myself, but 2 weeks ago i rushed right out to grab it at EB, only to find no one else i know is playing it ?? I guess FPS and such have realy over run a good ole RPG in terms of popularity. Or maybe everyone is all tuckerd out fm playing Baldurs Gate 2, perhaps a more intelectual RPG. ?

  204. Re:Dreamcast: Games still out there... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    Yup. Picked one up at Amazon. Little bugger surfs and everything. Think WebTV but with a very annoying controller. WalMarts still have a number of DC games - they're dumped in piles in the glass cabinets under the PS2 displays over in the tech dept. They had Resident Evil(s), Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, NFL2K NBA2K and assorted others when I checked on Saturday... bet they go fast. Seem to be at least 33% off, some half off or better. Also found out that pawn shops are a great source of consoles and games - must be after a cerrtain amount of sitting on the couch with no income, out goes the game console for some quick cash. Wonder if it's the first or last thing to be hocked? ;-)

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  205. Re:PS2 : GTA3 FLY THE CARS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to fly the cars do right, R2, O, R1, L2, down, L1, R1

    when you gain enough speed with this cheat on (just do it again to disable it) the car will begin to lift, use the toggle buttons to fly it.

    It does work with the tank, but not well

  206. Game List: (Oldies but goodies) by shlamo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now these games might have been ones you've missed, but in my opinion warrant a place in anyone's collections.

    (Starting from oldest system first)

    Sega Genesis:
    Beyond Oasis (It's sequel is on the Sega Saturn in case anyone wants more Oasis action)

    Snes:
    Lufia Series
    Breath of Fire Series
    FF Series (Of course)
    Secret of Mana
    Secret of Evermore (not as good as mana but still fun)
    Chrono Trigger (if you've been living in a cave and don't know this one)
    Super Metroid (Amazing Game)

    Playstation:
    Resident Evil
    Resident Evil 2
    Resident Evil 3 Nemesis
    (stay away from the ResEvil shooter)
    Vandal Hearts (Turn based strategy sleeper)
    FinalFantasy Tactics (Rereleased as greatest hit $19.99)
    FF Series
    Parasite Eve (Skip PE 2 or at least watch the opening movie which pretty much tells the whole story.)
    Chrono Cross
    Xenogears
    Vagrant Story
    Metal Gear Solid

    Nintendo 64:
    Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    Zelda: Legend of Majora's Mask
    Goldeneye: 007
    Perfect Dark
    Tactics Ogre

    Dreamcast:
    Jet Grind Radio
    Tony Hawk 1&2
    Skies of Arcadia (Do NOT miss this one)
    Resident Evil CODE: Veronica

    Playstation 2:
    Grand Theft Auto 3
    Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
    Metal Gear Solid 2
    Final Fantasy X (December release)
    Devil May Cry

    Game Boy Advance:
    Castlevania
    Advance Wars (If you can get only one game, get this one)
    Tony Hawk 2 (Almost Identical to the Console version)

    XBox:
    Halo

    Gamecube:
    Super Smash Bros.
    Pikmin? (Maybe. Read reviews before buying)

    PC:
    (Doing some more recent games)
    No One Lives Forever
    Serious Sam
    Max Payne
    Half-life (Cstrike & DOD & TFC)
    Quake 3 (TeamArena & Rocket Arena)
    Starcraft (Still going strong...)
    Tribes 2 (Online only pretty much single player offers very few challenges)
    Clive Barker's Undying (GREAT sleeper hit.)
    American McGee's Alice
    Black & White (some people like it, not my thing though)
    Fifa 2k1, 2k2
    NHL 2k1, 2k2

    *Note* this is just going off of my memory, all of these games are AT LEAST worth renting / ROM'ing and I believe many of these will open new doors of imagination in your minds and hearts.

    Have a great Christmas everybody!

  207. Dreamcast! by MoNsTeR · · Score: 2

    ...plus Jet Grind Radio, Chu-Chu Rocket, and whatever other games you can snag for $10.
    I've bought more games for my $50 DC in the last two weeks than I have for my $150 PSX in the last, what, 3 or 4 years?

    1. Re:Dreamcast! by EvilBuu · · Score: 1

      Anyone know where I can actually get a $50 Dreamcast nowadays? Amazon, EBworld, and BestBuy.com are all out of stock or no longer taking orders (probably ever again). I'm sure there are less mainstream alternatives, I just want a new one rather than turning to the crap-shoot that is Ebay.

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    2. Re:Dreamcast! by mbspweb · · Score: 1

      I was in a local Best Buy yesterday (suburban Detroit) and they had a boat load of 'em stacked up in the aisle - at least 20-30 boxes. Also had some cheap games, plus controlers, VMU's, etc.

  208. Dragon Warrior 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Behind the hype (and not so hype) of the nexgen consoles, out came without much fanfare the English version of Dragon Warrior 7 for PlayStation 1 (which by the way can be played by PlayStation 2... I think). I'm playing it and it is very good. It had many of the old-school elements that you have come to expect from an RPG, plus a truly epic story that only recent RPGs can unfold so boldly. I have played 82 hours so far, and have not switched the second disc yet (of 2). According to my expectations, I should be able to switch discs at about 90 to 95 hours which is pretty good anyway. Because the second disc is the last, it may not last another 90 hours but nevertheless it is a great accomplishment by the authors given that Final Fantasy 9 (a good RPG too) had me going for over 120 hours (adding the uncounted hours that went into unrecoverable gameovers) and DW7 is looking to match or exceed that. (The 120 hours also include completion of [or mostly completed] many of the optional side quests, as I'm doing in DW7.) Naturally, if you choose to play with a guide your times are bound to be less.
    What are the good points? The game is very strong on both story and battles. If you don't like talking a lot or fighting a lot, then this RPG might too balanced for your taste. Like many RPGs you will have to talk a lot before you can stick a sword at a monster. I found the story (and substories) very interesting. There are over 280 different monsters in the game, although like many RPGs out there (even FFs...) 'repeat' them: some are stronger colored variations of others. I also found it interesting that there was a dungeon where there was no monsters at all, only puzzles. There are various side quests but I'm not going to spoil the fun for you.
    The graphics are decent and very acceptable, altough they are no FF wanna-be. In my case, I've 'grown' to a position where I rarely allow myself to be lead by hype and by the press, and I tend to look more into the gameplay and fun factor behind the graphics. For some strange reason, the game scores an almost perfect in my book, but I guess that as always there are those who won't like the game. The best way to know how it would be for you, is to check it out for yourself. If you use the Internet, remember that forums are usually closer to reality (compared to the press... at least from my point of view), provided you don't check just a few posts on a few forums.
    If you decide to play the game, I hope you enjoy it. Also, you might want to send some feedback mail over to Enix. They very well deserve it. (And no, I am not related to them except as someone who just purchased the game).

  209. PC - RtCW by krs-one · · Score: 1

    Although probably already mentioned, I suggest everyone pick up a copy of Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I just beat it, and the game is incredible. To me, Unreal Tournament has been the best game for the past several years, but RtCW really whoops up on it. Its somewhat sad that it took 2 years for a game to finally beat UT, though UT is still an incredible game.

    The QuakeIII engine has earned new respect in my book for running RtCW. The gameplay is incredible, the story is really cool, although definitely imaginary, and the graphics are beyond killer.

    However, it requires a lot of system resources. The box says a 500 mhz box with a 16mb card, but if you want to see anything decent, I suggest at least an 800 with 512mb RAM and a good GeForce to get somewhere with the graphics.

    Hope this helps.

    -Vic

  210. Metal Gear Solid 2 disappointment by Nyarly · · Score: 2
    I was wondering if anyone shared my disappointment in MGS2? I've played it through once, had a moment of jaw dropping awe at a plot twist, but in the end, it's MGS1 redux (and admits as much) but it isn't any better. There's no great improvement, there's pretty much exactly four decent boss-fights (as opposed to more like ten or twelve in MGS1), it has entirely too many railroaded cinemas, and character development was disappointing. Technically excellent. The 'camera' simulation, that included a fogged lens, water dripping off the camera lens, bubbles getting trapped in the rim, etc. Everyone has more polygons, and can actually see expressions etc.

    There are some gameplay aspects that make for a less challenging game. Being able to stick up guards makes silent kills too easy. Amongst other things, a stuck up guard will stand with hands up indefinately, which makes choking them trivial. I've been running through grabbing dogtags hoping for something more than just new items.

    Ideally, I'd hope for either a significant plot switch (being able to kill Olga as Snake would be one example, or rescuing Emma, or even getting a different ending at the last minute), or a large extra plot realm (even the redone Shadow Moses mission, or VR missions or something.)

    It comes down to I just felt like it fell a bit flat, and it needed more. Unless I missed some huge cool thing along the way...

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  211. Gamecube Christmas by GweeDo · · Score: 1

    If you are a Gamecube lover like I am then you will probably been looking for these games:
    Super Smash Bros Melee: what could possibly be more fun than beating the crap out of Pikachu as Princess Peach?
    Pikmin: Miyamoto is a genius and has brought us another great game...I can't wait!
    Sonic Adventure 2: Sonic on a Nintendo product...that is reason enough for me!

    There are of course more, but these three are what I really want to get my hands on :)

  212. PC Gamez & CTR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    Some advice:

    1. Go and get PC Gamer (or equivalent for consoles) and read their reviews before buying *anything*. (Or, read DailyRadar or other Gamez sites.) $40-$50 is a lot to waste on total crap games like Open Kart, and PC Gamer does not hesitate to blast them (Open Kart got 32% in the November issue). Also, "free" (OK, cheap at least) demo CDs. Always try before you buy, I find the CDs more convienient that downloading. (I do NOT work for PC Gamer, I have subscribed for about 3 yrs). With how bizeee my life has been lately, the demo CDs have almost been enough gaming goodness to keep me satisfied (almost). Better yet, give that gamer on your list a subscription. With demo CD, it's only $30/yr. (Tell them it's edyacashunal...)


    2. I still play Total Annihilation. I have not found a RTS that can match it for playability, and it still looks decent even without using a 3D card. AOE kiss my hairy white %^$. Ground Control this! For breadth and depth of play, TA wins hands down. How many games give you robots, airplanes, vehicles, hovercraft, navies and nuclear weapons? Mourn the beloved Cavedog!


    3. I still play Unreal Tournament. Tases great and is less filling. If you don't got it, get it. And yes, I think it's much better than Q3.


    4. I haven't bought from them yet, but I will probably buy my next gamez from www.dragon.ca. Shipped from Canada with prices hard to beat. (I don't work for them either.)


    5. On PS1, I just ADORED Crash Team Racing. Graphics are not so impressive, but this was an immensely fun adventure. You can probably get it cheap...try to find the secrets!

  213. Baldur's Gate 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you like RPG's, until neverwinter nights comes out this has got to be one of the best out there.

  214. Icewind Dale and Heart of Winter [PC] by rufusdufus · · Score: 1

    Best RPG out today. Actually, the best part is Trials of the Luremaster, a free expansion to Heart of Winter.

  215. Plot? by moheeb · · Score: 1

    You actually care about the plot in a game like this (action/shoot 'em up)? Are you a game reviewer???

    1. Re:Plot? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      actual I am not a gamereviewer, but I am a fist generation computer gamer. I Like a plot and story these days, but then again I'm old.

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  216. No one has mentioned Jak and Daxter?! by oGMo · · Score: 2

    I can't believe no one has mention Jak and Daxter for the PS2. This is a pretty incredible looking platformer/action-adventure. You can read the previews, but it looks to have the following prominent features:

    • Huge, seamless world. Apparently you can see distant areas of the island from any location.
    • Beatiful smooth graphics. The movies (see the bottom of the page) should make this obvious.
    • No load times. After playing things like GTA3, Ico, or MGS2, which have large areas and little or no load times, I believe this is possible, and it will certainly set a new standard for other games.
    • Brought to you by Naughty Dog Software, so expect much goodness.

    According the the IGN preview (as well as other articles and interviews), the authors are fans of games like Zelda which also feature large expansive worlds, so that vision combined with NDS talent might produce a top-10 title.

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  217. I get enough nagging from my GF, I don't need MGS2 by pheph · · Score: 1

    My year of waiting for MGS2 was a bit of a disappointmet. Solid Snake was such a cool, smooth player. In MGS2, you play him for about an hour, then they have you play some guy named 'Jack', who's girlfriend nags at you whenever you save (which is usually right at an intense moment, like must diffuse bomb in 400 seconds!)... "Why don't you open up to me" "Do you really love me"... Its a beautiful game with some great moments, but

    a.) I want Snake
    b.) I want that b1tch on radio frequency 140.96 to DIE!

    thank you

  218. Solitaire 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am really hoping that MS will get Solitaire 2.0 'ready for the holidays'!

    New features:

    - 3 new decks
    - ending animation has cards bounce upward
    - 1 new skill level 'Your not this good'

  219. Let's not forget Nintendo by ilsie · · Score: 1

    Super Smash Bros. Melee and Pikmin show some promise. Also, the Gamecube is $100 cheaper than PS2 or XBox, not like anybody who reads /. doesent already know that.

    1. Re:Let's not forget Nintendo by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      Super Smash Bros. Melee and Pikmin show some promise. Also, the Gamecube is $100 cheaper than PS2 or XBox, not like anybody who reads /. doesent already know that.

      But people are stopped by the cute factor.

      Smash Bros. = yellow rats and pink blobs/princesses.

      Pikmin = cute alien and swarm of adorable plant creatures

      They overlook the fact that in Smash Bros. you can beat the snot out of said characters, throw them into a bottomless pit and enjoy the resultant smeary blast representing whats left of them.

      And in Pikmin you get to breed those little creatures and then feed them to the retarded looking bugs (which get bigger the next day, tee hee).

      Doesn't matter how cute something is, just how maim/destructable it is. ;-)

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  220. Pardon me, but... by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

    I'm not one of the open source "enthusaists" on here, but youre running windows me? Come over here while I slap you with a penguin. I mean even us widows users know better than that. Using ME. What the hell are you thinking!!!

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    1. Re:Pardon me, but... by Doomdark · · Score: 1
      Well... See, my problem is that I only use Windows for (few) games. When I bought my PC, I foolishly thought I need a copy of Windows. I had to pay for that (I'm not a thief), and thus there weren't all that many good options, of which ME seemed the least painful. I mistakenly expected it to be at least slightly stabler than 98. (incidentally, at work I had been using NT, and was reasonably content with it... but the sly sales-geek sold me Windows ME!)

      ... Damn it I knew I was too cheap when I didn't choose Win2K. :-) (which was something like 2x as expensive)

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  221. Empire Earth by professortomoe · · Score: 1

    Man, I don't see enough people singing this games praises. I absolutely love this game, and RTCW too. I mean, a welldone 3d RTS is a godsend. The fact that you can go through 10-15 different epochs leaves alot of replayability. You can make campaigns for just about part of history!! Well, I'm going back to playing it now...

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    1. Re:Empire Earth by ShanSolo · · Score: 1

      If you like RTS (AoE, AoK, SC, TA, C&C), Empire Earth is the game for you. It has everything! The tremendous scope is like 3 games in one. Start with cavemen, end with mech. Its 3D, supporting all sorts of res and color depths. It also has a physics model, so units move similar to those in TA. 5 resources. All units have counters, with relationships that get more and more complex. There are units with magic throughout the ages as well. It also supports multiplayer (Internet or LAN) for 8 players. The AI has 3 levels of difficulty and you can actually ally with the AI! The scenario editor is amazing.

  222. Jak and Daxter for PlayStation 2 by Deltan · · Score: 1

    Due out tomorrow Jak and Daxter looks like a worthy Crash Bandicoot replacement.

    The Game is produced by Naughty Dog.

    A preview at IGNhttp://ps2.ign.com/previews/16447.html

    If you liked Kolona 2, this should be right up your alley.

  223. Any good PC baseball/football games? by tgibson · · Score: 1

    I had a friend ask about good sports games for Windows. What are the best baseball and football computer games right now?

  224. Half-Life! by sbryant · · Score: 3, Informative

    It still rocks! No need to spend big bucks for the latest games. You should be able to pick up a bargain-priced copy of HL - if you're lucky with Opposing Force and maybe even Blue Shift. HL is still (IMO) the best single-player experience that ever happened.

    Download the latest patch and you become part of the biggest online gaming community. Team Fortress Classic and Counter Strike are included in the patch, and are the most well known, but there are others. See Planet Half-Life for more mods/skins/levels/cheese.

    Another FPS which had a good immersive story line was Who Wants To Live Forever. More tongue-in-cheek than violent. Shouldn't be too expensive now either.

    Other classics would be the original Command & Conquer and Red Alert. Tiberian Sun wasn't bad, but RA2 was pure cheese.

    Also worth a mention: Total Annihilation (along with expansion packs Core Contingency and Battle Tactics), and Age of Empires II. I liked those.

    The game I play the most: TFC (online of course). I'm looking forward to TFC2.

    -- Steve

  225. Dreamcast! by Steveftoth · · Score: 2

    For less then the price of a GameCube you can get a DC with a tom of good games.

    DC 50-60 bucks.
    xtra controller - 15
    memory card - 10
    Soul Calibur - 25-35 ( a must have )
    other games - 5 - 25 dollars

    I got evolution for 5 bucks, ROLW for 10, Shenmue for 20, Chu Chu for 10, Jet Grind Radio for 10. The list goes on, but if you don't mind the fact that no more new games are coming out, then for like 150 dollars you can get hundreds of hours of entertainment.

  226. Simple answer: by PW2 · · Score: 1

    Search for SnowCraft at www.download.com

  227. Stunts! - DOS Games rule! by carlmenezes · · Score: 0

    I'm on a heavy nostalgia trip and I'm gonna check out all the old DOS games over the vacation :

    Pacman
    Prince Of Persia
    Stunts
    Lotus racing
    Paratrooper
    EF2000

    MAN! They bring back memories of the time when you were in total control and DOS was king! I'm gonna swap out my 20Gig hard drive for a 540 MB one that still has DOS 6.22 on it and weep as memories come flooding back :)

    AH! I'm feeling all choked up already !

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    1. Re:Stunts! - DOS Games rule! by el'gwato · · Score: 1

      That is still a rawkin game!
      Remember when it first came out at stars&stripes
      or timezoze, was the first and last car game to have a 5 speed box and a clutch!
      oh the joy

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  228. How about this one: by Galvatron · · Score: 1
    We are allies with Russia against Afganistan. We have always been allies with Russia, at war with Afganistan.


    That one's more scary, because in reality, Afganistan was at war with Russia, and we were Afganistan's allies.

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  229. Max Payne by YourGarbageMan · · Score: 1

    This is an excellent game and hasn't been mentioned much is this thread. Max Payne is probably the best game I've played so far this year. I definitely put this on the "must have" list. Not recommended for young kids of course. Download the demo and give it a spin.

  230. Burnout - PS2 by SilentDissonance · · Score: 1

    Burnout for the Playstation 2.

    Played this on demo at the local Wal-Mart, really good arcade-style racing controls, and when you slam into traffic going 100+ mph it's really fun to watch how many times your car flips :).

  231. X-Plane by bucklesl · · Score: 2, Informative

    Since I didn't see any posts for flight simulators, why not try X-Plane.

    It uses OpenGL and runs on Windows, Mac, (OSX by Christmas) -- Linux port upcoming, and although I haven't tried, it supposedly can run with WINE.

    There is also a great online community where one can get new planes, scenery, and utilities.

    Oh and once you get it, feel free to land at my grandparent's airstrip - ID NA61. ;-)

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  232. gave myself time off from sysadminning a krap OS by wardk · · Score: 1

    by buying my kid an iMac. no more manually resetting windows(TM) screen resolution for game x then back, rebooting a locked system.....ad nauseum.

  233. Windows XP by os2fan · · Score: 2
    {grin} Would it be neat to have this massive solitaire engine. Solitaire is a well played game.

    I understand that it needs a fifty gig partition, but System Commander can start it, so I can keep my real operating system as well.

    I mean, Microsoft has come a long way in increasing the bulk of the solitaire engine from the Windows 3.0 days. We are impressed.{/grin}

    And besides, to one that plays with operating systems, new operating systems really are entertainment, and hence games. Now, I just have to figure out where Windows keeps its scores.

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  234. Zelda games for Game Boy by Stephen+Williams · · Score: 1

    Two new Zelda games (Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons) were released for the Game Boy earlier this year. Definitely worth picking up if you like adventure games.

    -Stephen

  235. Forget the new games... by Sleepy · · Score: 2

    Load up on the old games, and have a ball. Older games like Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Carmageddon, Civ2, DooM... you just can't beat them for playability.

    I've been sorely disappointed with the latest games, things like Max Payne etc.

    And it's not just because my computer is old (and it is)... I've played them on the latest Athlon XP1600 + GeForce 3.

    Hell, I'd love nothing more than a portable MAME emulator with both TV & SVGA output, and USB + Atari joystick ports...

    1. Re:Forget the new games... by Sebastopol · · Score: 2

      no kidding. i've been playing Bard's Tale for the past two weeks. new games do so much automapping and autosaving, you get spoiled. some of the BT mazes are so nasty. i bought all the 10x10 rule graph paper that they had at my local officeMax.

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  236. Frequency by pc486 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Frequency is a great game. The objective is to move around inside a 8-sided tunnel. Each side is a track and in single-player mode, every two sets played (you tap the correct button on the controller when a note passes) it auto-plays the rest of the track for that section. Ultimatly the entire song gets played. It's much harder than it seems so don't think that this is easy. In multiplayer you battle eachother on hitting as many notes while getting as many points and trying to steal or disable your opponent. Don't even get me started on remixing the songs. This is a sure buy for PS2 owners who love music.

    Ratings: GameSpot gives it a 8.7 and IGN gives it a 9.

  237. An amazing puzzle game by Lerc · · Score: 1

    You could try Fitznik It's astoundingly briliant and fiendishly dificult and I'm absolutely certian that I've never played a better puzzle game that I have written ever.

    ;-)

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  238. Re:Wolfenstein--Dont Play Before Bed!! by CmdrPinkTaco · · Score: 1

    I remember the first time I played Wolf3D was also the first time that I had ever heard Ministry (In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up) - ever since that day I can't surpass the adrenaline rush and I can't play a FPS without some hard core industrial.

    Half Life came close, but it didn't own me like that game did with that soundtrack. Screw Trent Reznor and his lame Quake sound track, gimmie some Al Jorgensen (back when he was still doing heroine please, not his new crap) and some huge pixels >:)

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  239. Some games by JimPooley · · Score: 3, Informative

    The aforementioned Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Really shows how things have changed in the last ten years.

    Hmmmmmm.... Leather-clad Dominatrix Nazi Babes.... Can I freeze frame that bit...

    Ahem. For the flight sim fan, Microsoft Flight Sim 2002 is a major improvement over the 2000 model. Better and more importantly faster graphics, autogen scenery, other planes, and ATC.
    Free-scrolling virtual cockpit with working dials means you can take a good lookout as you'd do in a real plane. The program that shows Microsoft can do some things right!

    Also on a flight sim vein, IL2 Sturmovik is a delightfully different combat flight sim. Unlike most WWII combat flight sims, IL2 concentrates on the air war over Russia, and the Russian IL2 ground attack fighter. Looks pretty good so far..

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    1. Re:Some games by br0ck · · Score: 1
      Hmmmmmm.... Leather-clad Dominatrix Nazi Babes.... Can I freeze frame that bit...
      One
      Two
      Three
  240. Re:Myst III: Exile (windows) by brainiACK · · Score: 1

    Ya, its a great game as a sequal to the ever popular Myst and Riven games, however, it seemed quite a bit simpler than riven ones, and a bit shorter. I'm not even sure if it would've kept me occupied for the week between xmas and new years.. but if you love those games i'd reccomend getting it.

  241. a bus ticket. by Technosteve! · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    it may not be a game but damn i want to be on www.bangbus.com

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  242. Doomdarks Revenge for a free christmas treat by cheekymonkey_68 · · Score: 1

    Doomdark was one good turn based fantasy wargame that had over 200,000 locations all running on an 80's 48k ZX Spectrum, for those thirtysomethings its a piece of pure nostalgia.

    For all you PeeCee owners theres a decent remake at Icemark and best of all its free and runs on low spec machines too.....

    Oh yeah what to have for christmas , well as Neverwinter Nights isn't out yet I guess its AliensVsPredator2 for me.

  243. Buy me a Segway ASAP! by nebby · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    And for all you naysayers, here's a little thing I typed up. Please correct me where necessary.

    The Unofficial Anti-Anti-Segway FAQ v0.01
    by Greg Fodor (nebby@half-empty.org)
    Created on 12/3/01
    Feel free to copy this wherever you want.

    Q: What is Segway?

    A: Not a scooter. More specifically, Segway is a two-wheeled self-balancing electrically powered people moving device created by inventor Dean Kamen.

    More information, obviously, can be found at http://www.segway.com.

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    Q: How is it not a scooter? Screw this, I'm gonna just go by an electric Razor!

    A: Calling the Segway a scooter is analagous to calling the automobile a motorized buggy. Riding the Segway is supposedly an amazing experience like no other; all those who have ridden one agree: this is amazing stuff. Propelling the scooter requires just a slight lean forward or back, with steering controlled on the handlebar.

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    Q: What if I don't *need* help balancing? I'm not an uncoordinated loser like the people who need these Segway things! (or, Why don't they just put a third wheel on it for balancing and chop $2500 off the price?)

    A: The purpose of Kamen's balancing technology is not merely to prevent you from falling, but is the key element in the entire feel and interface of the device. Using the device, as Kamen puts it, is like wearing "magic sneakers." The device feels like an attachment to your very feet, giving you the ability to freely glide over any surface on a whim. You feel not like the passenger on a vehicle, as you would with a motorized scooter, but as an empowered pedestrian whose very feet have been enhanced with wheels.

    From segway.com:

    "Step on Segway HT, and your instinct will be to steady yourself, as you would on anything with two wheels. Almost immediately, you'll realize that isn't necessary - Segway HT is balancing for you. Then it's as simple as shifting your weight. Lean forward and you go forward. Straighten up and you gently stop. You'll see that Segway HT isn't moving you, it's moving in response to you.

    That's what happens physically. Emotionally, it's like the childhood dreams you had where you could fly. You feel freedom, exhilaration, and confidence. You have the sensation of the ground moving beneath you, but you're not touching it. And you're seized by the desire to go somewhere. Only then do you become aware of your own smile."

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    Q: 17 MPH!? It's way too slow, I want something that will replace the car!

    A: The Segway is not meant to replace the car. It is meant as a way of augmenting the process of walking as a pedestrian. Being able to up your pace to 17 MPH both makes your usual walks shorter and easier (and on this thing, more fun,) and also increases the number of places you can feasibly go.

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    Q: So aren't people going to be pissed when they're walking around and Segway users zip by and annoy them?

    A: Eventually when more people purchase Segways, it is feasible to think that small Segway lanes will be opened (similar to bike lanes) in major cities for fast Segway users. Other Segway riders could very well roll along with pedestrians unannoyingly at a slightly slower pace.

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    Q: This is so horrible. People already are fat and out of shape enough, we don't need another American gadget that will give people another excuse to stop exercising.

    A: Yes, we should also outlaw cars since you can sit your lazy ass in them all the time. Donuts too are a possible target for legislation, we wouldn't want anyone eating them since they could become fat and stricken with heart disease. It's important that we keep a careful control on what people can choose to do or not do, since we know what's best for them.

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    Q: I live in Northen Montana and it snows all day here. Theres no way in hell I'd give up my car to ride to work and get hypothermia in the snow.

    A: The Segway wasn't made for you. Though it supposedly can navigate through small piles of snow (just put on a hat and jacket for the 5 minute ride to work in the city,) it's not meant to be a all-terrain 4-wheel drive mini-SUV with heat and AC.

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    Q: So, what if it rains? I'll get soaked!

    A: The Segway is supposed to be an elegant and easy to use enhancement for the speed of the pedestrian. It is not meant to replace the car, and hence, if you don't like walking in the rain with an umbrella, you probably will dislike riding the Segway in the rain with an umbrella.

    Overall, anything you wouldn't walk through (wind, snow, rain) you probably won't be willing to go Segging through either. Don't buy one if you hate walking outside and in all cases prefer the heat/AC/enclosure of a car.

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    Q: It's too expensive, at $3k nobody is ever going to buy one.

    A: You're absolutely right, except the "nobody" part should be changed to "only early adopters." Like any brand-spanking-never-been-seen-before technology, the price will be high and the initial demand will be filled by either large companies who can drop the change needed to buy a slew of them, or for the enthusiasts (early adopters) who just have to have the latest and greatest. GeForce3, anyone?

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    Q: I'm so sick of this, all that hype and it's just a scooter? No sterling? It doesn't fly? What the hell??

    A: The so-called hype that people love to complain about has not been fed to them by Kamen himself but by third parties, mostly just idiots on the Internet over-speculating and coming up with their wildest fantasies. It's amazing how many idiots thought it would fly. Kamen has said from the get go of the hype-machine that it would and could never live up to the hype.

    That being said, Segway is an amazing acheivement, and does in fact have the ability to change everything if adopted around the world. It's a low-energy electrically powered transportation device that seemingly can be used by anyone. Not everyone can manage to control an electric scooter, but everyone will be able to glide around with childlike freedom on their Segway.

    Also, don't forget that Kamen's company (DEKA Research, http://www.dekaresearch.com) has been and is working on a high efficiency sterling engine. I don't think it takes much foresight to think perhaps one could eventually be found on a new version of the Segway once the technology is perfected.

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    Q: It's 60 pounds, yet in videos I've seen, there are old ladies carrying it up stairs! What a crock!

    A: The Segway supposedly has a mode called "following mode" which allows it to be guided (perhaps remotely via the key?) by a human but using its own power for propelling itself. In other words, when you come to a set of stairs unnavigable by the device, you hop off, switch to following mode, and walk up the stairs guiding the Segway along. It will turn its wheels as you offset its balance in order to climb the stairs.

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    Q: Nobody is going to buy one because they'll look really stupid on them.

    A: I'd guess that in most cases, if you look stupid on a Segway, you look stupid off a Segway. Regardless, this product is largely meant for people who do not necessarily hold their "dork factor" in the highest importance when it comes to choosing a transportation method. Look at some of the cars on the road and you'll realize there are many of these types of people.

    Also, once a tenth of the population are crusing around on them in a city, you'll probably get used to them. I'd imagine the first car drivers looked rather silly with no horse being driven by them in front of the thing.

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    Q: Nobody is going to buy one because the thing doesn't go too far on a single charge.

    A: It really isn't meant to go long distances. It's meant for daily errands, the short trip to work, etc. A charge will get you approx. 17 miles or so (IIRC) which has been determined by Kamen's team to be far exceeding the average amount of distance covered daily by city dwellers in their day-to-day activites.

    Also, it wouldn't be impossible to imagine an enhanced battery or motor in a few years extending the distance capabilities of the Segway. Regardless, right now it's not an impractical limit by any means.

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    Q: It's going to be great when the system just zonks out and people start falling over! Hahah! I am so smart!

    A: Actually, the Segway incorporates reduntant systems and is supposed to be fail safe on a level near medical devices (remember, most of Kamen's other devices have been in the medical field, requiring FDA approval and all.) The onscreen meter will undoubtfully inform you of the battery level, and as such, battery failure is most likely going to be as common as a car running out of gas. Oh wait, actually, since every electrical outlet becomes the equivalent of a gas station with an electric vehicle, only those who are extremely stupid and/or drunk will be most likely to let their Segway run down to nothing. If your Segway is running out of steam, you're not exactly stranded with no means of charging it up if you're in a metropolis.

    I'd also guess that if these become adopted in the future, offices will install chargers to allow you to charge your Segway while you work.

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    Q: This Kamen guy is a crock.

    A: Not really. He has many inventions in the medical industry, one of the most well known is the iBot, a motorized robot which serves the same purpose as a wheelchair but allows its rider to climb stairs, curbs, drive over sand, and raise his/herself to eye level by balancing on two wheels.

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    Q: Ok, maybe he's smart, but he just over-hyped this thing to make tons of money.

    A: First, he didn't hype it, that was (probably) you, and the media. Secondly, Kamen has a pretty good record to show he's an example of an rather unselfish inventor whose endevours are a function not just of his financial gain but moreso from the overall benefit to the users of his inventions. As further evidence, he's the creator and overseer of FIRST (the project on the top of his list of importance, supposedly,) a national robotics program and competition for high schoolers which is intended to help change teen idols from pop stars and sports athletes to scientists and mathematicians. More information about FIRST can be found at http://www.usfirst.org.

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    Q: Well, I don't live in a city anyway, I would never want one.

    A: Well, do you work in a manufacturing facility? For a shipping company? Hell, in a big library?

    Do you deliver mail? Do you perform rounds as a guard in a federal building?

    Do you hate walking around Disney World? The mall? The town square?

    Are you a cop? A paramedic? Do you just make rounds with medication in a hospital?

    Do you go to school at a large campus? Do you work on a company campus?

    Do you have trouble walking around the house due to your age or another condition?

    If so, you might end up riding on and appreciating a Segway.

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    Q: But..but..it's just a freaking SCOOTER!? I want my flying car!!!

    A: *sigh* Go invent it yourself, then. I'll be cruising around in my Segway in the meantime.

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    1. Re:Buy me a Segway ASAP! by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      As further evidence, he's the creator and overseer of FIRST (the project on the top of his list of importance, supposedly,) a national robotics program and competition for high schoolers which is intended to help change teen idols from pop stars and sports athletes to scientists and mathematicians.

      I know, those poor pop stars can't afford books or access to educational cable channels. We need to spend more money on pop stars because the ethiopians will starve regardless of how much we feed them.

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      Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
  244. A severe beating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ah, dead or alive 3 ... ;)

  245. Can't we take the commercialization out of xmas by Technosteve! · · Score: 1

    what the hell am i talking about all i asking for a is a realdoll and i can play reallife sims.

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    Me and lunchbox here are going to kick your ass.
  246. Halo is great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We've been playing it in the office all day today and it is very pretty, nice AI. The graphics are a bit american in style (yawn bore) but the grass texture is nicely detailed.

    The physics engine seems solid and there's a lot of gameplay in there.

    Why on earth would you wonder why people have it? We bought it in the shops...

    Metal Gear Solid 2 looks quite pretty too.

  247. Have a Wolfenstein Christmas by variable26 · · Score: 1

    Return to Castle Wolfenstein

    IMHO
    This has got to be one of the best games out there, right now. This game should be in your list of must have this x-mas. This game kicks ass! Multi-player and single player modes are much better than the standard Quake and Unreal games we are used to.

    Cheers,

    v26

  248. "Killing Nazis is fine for teenagers" ?!?! by oomcow · · Score: 1

    wow hope no one takes that quote out of context. ;)

  249. The final game improves on the demo ... by Augusto · · Score: 2

    It's a very fun game, and I love the single player campaings too.

    The Trade Federation is a very, cool civilization, and I just finished the "bonus" mission, sort of an alternate recreation of the Battle of Naboo.

    Cool game, but yes, very similar to AOE2 (i've heard, haven't played AOE) since it's the same engine. However, it seems aircrafts and shielding make add a lot of different gameplay to the game. (specially the famba shields by the gungangs).

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    - sigs are for wimps.
  250. Smash Brothers Melee by Fnord · · Score: 1

    If you could be persuaded into getting another console however, Smash Brothers Melee (for the game cube....due to be released tommorow) is an exceptionally cool game. Just picture the four player chaos of the original Smash Brothers with graphics that really show off what the game cube can do and about ten times as much hidden crap to unlock. They've added a new "Adventure" mode for single player where you get to play through a prettied up version of a level from each characters original game before you actually fight them (and going through the Mushroom Kingdom as Samus (from Metroid) is a very interesting experience). Lots more characters and items and stages, and all around just a hell of a fun game.

  251. When it's done ... by rlp · · Score: 1

    Duke Nukem Forever - well, maybe not this Christmas ...

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    [Insert pithy quote here]
  252. How about contributing? by Dwonis · · Score: 2

    OpenQuartz , needs GPL-compatible sounds!

  253. +1 Insightful, -1 Flamebait? by kubrick · · Score: 1

    software so sophisticated it puts Microsoft to shame

    That part's not so difficult. I have games on my Commodore 64 that put Microsoft to shame. :)

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    deus does not exist but if he does
    1. Re:+1 Insightful, -1 Flamebait? by Shmibbon · · Score: 1

      There were games on the Commodore 64 that put plenty of modern video games to shame. A better analogy would be "I have games on my Phillips CD-i that put Microsoft to shame," but then again who the hell would admit to having one of those?

      -Shmibbon

      P.S. does ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD have a disk image of Tonk in the Land of Buddy Bots for C64? That was my favorite game as a kid and I can just barely find a mention of the Atari console version in a summary of an issue of an old magazine...plus the switches don't work right in Castles of Dr. Creep on emulators...I hate my parents for giving that computer away, they did the same damn thing with my Atari

  254. EverQuest - Shadows of Luclin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nuff Said!

  255. Re:PLAYSTATION: Don't overlook cheap shit. by ROBOKATZ · · Score: 1

    Worked fine for me.

  256. Re:Wolfenstein (Single Player Binaries?) by SPaReK · · Score: 1

    A bit off the subject (well maybe not, who can recommend a game that doesnt run on Linux?), but any word on the single player Linux binaries?

  257. Duke Nukem Forever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still want Prey.... and a sequal to Halloween Harry dammit!

    -$yD

  258. Tony hawk 3 for PS2!!!!!!! by CrazyJim0 · · Score: 1

    Something is just awesome about this game.

    GTA 3 is kinda fun too, but it requires way less skill.

    Last games I liked: Commodore64 RPGS, street fighter 2, Starcraft

  259. Game Boy Advance by Shmibbon · · Score: 1

    Retro console gamers (SNES 2-D days) will love this. Lots of games that focus on FUN as the most important thing: Wario Land 4, Mega Man Battle Network, Klonoa, Castlevania: COTM (FINALLY a sequel to CSOTN!), and Advance Wars just to name a few. There's lots of creativity and skill being poured into this console, and yet I can't find a mention of it on the forum. Give it a chance, try out those display models or rent/borrow it and try out one of those games I mentioned.

    -Shmibbon

  260. RedFaction and Operation Flashpoint are fun but.. by Computer+suck! · · Score: 0

    it has to be Rogue!

  261. What about Nintendo anyways? by DoomPlague · · Score: 1

    There's always room for a Gamecube.

    Star Wars Rogue Leader is an absolute must for any Star Wars fan or anyone who like beautiful graphics. It's based on Episodes 4-6 and has some intense gameplay, wonderful SW music and the best graphics seen on any console.

    The Gamecube also has clearly the best party games released this year in Super Monkey Ball and Super Smash Brothers Melee, two incredibly addictive, 4-player games.

    It seems like CmdrTaco didn't even acknoledge the existence of Xbox or Gamecube. Someone buy him one.

  262. Best game for video game fans (windows) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Game Derby. http://www.gamederby.com/

    If you know somebody who loves video games they'll love Game Derby. I don't mean somebody who spends a lot of time getting caught up on the latest graphics, rather somebody who enjoys video games as GAMES. If you know anybody who knows video history and views them as an art form be sure to get the Game Derby. It'll be their best gift.

  263. Torment! by rkanodia · · Score: 1

    I second that - I saw Planescape: Torment in the bargain bin at Fry's a couple weeks ago and it made me almost fail a Circuits midterm.

    It was in dual-jewelcase packaging with some other game (Anyone heard of "Soulbringer"? Looks stupid...) for $12.99, I think. Torment is definately more of a plot and character RPG (one million words total, according to the IGN interview, crazy) than a hack-and-slash; trust me, you're better off spending more points on Int-Wis-Cha than Str-Dex-Con. And the game world is exactly how Planescape should be. Without spoiling anything, the game includes areas of Sigil, the Outlands, and 3 other planes (don't want to name them and give anything away, hehe) and I can think of representatives of at least 8 of the Planescape factions in the game, some of which you can join.

    The sound is nothing exciting. The characters (2D) aren't quite as smoothly animated as we expect these days, with only 8 angles of view, but damn are they beautiful. Spell effects are very well-animated, and the high-level spells are awesome; some of them have Final Fantasy-style cutscenes before casting, although none reaching the tedious 2 minute+ length of some of those giant summons. Honestly, though, I only got to a level to be able to cast 8th and 9th level spells because I snagged a huge exp boost right before the final boss, it seems kind of silly that they had them in there.

    Anyway, I can't possibly recommend Torment strongly enough to anybody who wants an RPG with depth and emotion instead of massive hack-and-slash interrupted by the occaisional trip to town to sell ph4+ 1007.

    1. Re:Torment! by Deathtoll · · Score: 1

      Word of caution: Torment is very heavy on the dialogue, and fairly light on the action. If you don't plan to read all of the extensive conversation trees, you might prefer Icewind Dale or Baldur's Gate. That being said, the character models and spell effects in Torment look much better than either of those games, and you can actually talk to your party members outside of scripted events (and they usually have something interesting to say, as well).

  264. Falcon4! by Storm · · Score: 1

    Falcon4 was released three years ago November, and it is still one of the only sims I play regularly. As flight sims go, it is head and shoulders above the rest. I am in a virtual squadron, the 99th VFS Tuskegee Airmen, and our squadron commander actually flies F-15Es for a living.

    Without going into the long and spotty history of Falcon4, suffice it to say that in the finest tradition of OpenSource software, the last two years, this sim has been receiving constant (free) upgrades from members of the community. The final installment in the Falcon4 saga is going to be Falcon4 SuperPack2 (SP2).

    How many games/sims have that kind of shelf life?

    Hey Santa...

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    --Storm
  265. Re:Wolfenstein--Dont Play Before Bed!! by oni · · Score: 2

    forgot and played it and then went right to bed to surreal nightmares

    I'll never forget the time I played Quake III so long I got up from the computer and nearly walked into a door because I just expected it to open automatically. Wierd!

  266. Poor bastard. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

    ANd stealing ME dosent count. Its like takeing a can of rat poision away from a toddler. It might be his, but he shouldnt be having it anyway. ;) I only wish you had taken my parents copy.

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    All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
  267. Re:Halflife by 1%warren · · Score: 1
    (Think like 10 times more people play it than play Quake III Arena.)

    I used to be upset that QIII, IMHO a far better game, was not as popular as CS, but, thank God for Counterstrike. Being far easier to get into, it drains away the cheats & the llamas like pus from a sore.

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    Full plate and packing steel! -Minsc
  268. I second this!! by rahl · · Score: 1

    I got Battlegrounds last week, it totally kicks a**. It's even better than AOE2+expansion in terms of forcing you to diversify your armies; every aspect is interesting; and best of all, it's Star Wars. The single player campaigns have some nifty bonus missions too. The only complaint I have with it is that the 6 civilizations aren't different enough in terms of technologies that they get. Overall, Battlegrounds is an awesome RTS, especially if your computer can't handle Empire Earth. Highly recommended if you're into Star Wars at all.

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    Reality is indistinguishable from any sufficiently advanced fantasy.
  269. Re:PS2 : GTA3 Multiplayer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Granted the single player game is terrific, am I the only one to notice there not being ANY sort of multiplayer option (split screen or link?).

    This was one of the features I liked the most about previous versions. Needless to say it kept me and my friends up for hours in the dorms.

    Has anyone heard whether other versions (XBOX or PC) will feature this?

  270. Re:Wolfenstein--Dont Play Before Bed!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HAHAAHHA! That's classic, you just made my day.

  271. Seriously, the Linux port to PS2 by sjorgnsn · · Score: 1

    I haven't seen a price for the PS2 version of Linux yet, with the SDK kit, but I would really like one of those. It's pretty much every PC type accessory you could want for the PS2, all Sony branded, or at least guaranteed to work, and it's Linux! I dream of the day I can take my PS2 to work, and make it look like I'm being productive with it, then popping in FFX while no one is looking, of couse when it comes out.

  272. Halo is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea, there's a lot of hype about Civ3 and Return to castle wolfenstien, but let me tell you, I'd choose halo over both of them. I know how horrible it is to support microsoft, yada yada, but the x-box is actually an awesome system. It offers progressive scan images for games as well as surround sound and Halo is incredable. Civ3 is fun, but talk about micromanaging....that game just plain gives me a headache. Wolfenstien...well...it's no Halo. I was tired of the same old 1st person shooters...somehow, halo is different and lots of fun.

  273. Xbox by Atroxodisse · · Score: 1

    Halo is the best FPS I've ever played. Better than Half Life. The great thing about it is you can play through the single player campaign in split screen with a friend.

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  274. How are the other multiplayer maps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been playing the test for weeks now. I love it. But how are the other maps? Kick ass? Stupid? Does it look like multiplayer is gonna get alot of support (and clans and all that good stuff?)

  275. IL-2 by tuoppi · · Score: 1

    Take a look at IL-2 if you feel like 1st person shooters and CC-derivatives are getting a little boring.
    At least it is refreshing for me, as I've rather fed up with pro-US-balance and tweaks in other simulators.

  276. IL-2 Sturmovik is great by Pachy · · Score: 1

    regardless of theater this is the best flight combat simulation ever. Yaks rock!

  277. Duke Nukem Forever! by Smid · · Score: 1

    Erm...

    Ok, I'll get my coat...

    Smid

    (Who remembers the shocking days when it was announced they would move from Quake to Unreal engine.)

  278. Silent Hill 2 by slim · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised not to see anyone touting this. I'm a short way in, and it's already scaring the bejesus out of me. It's a class act.

  279. HyperBowl for Windows PC by gxw · · Score: 1

    HyperBowl first hit upscale arcades like Metreon's Airtight Garage back in '99 and has since spread all over. The original version plays on a 9 foot tall screen with a regular sized bowling ball as a trackball. This fall two versions came out for the home PC (Plus! and Arcade). This is a simple game, but surprisingly fun to play. Not exactly a Half-life substitute, but maybe a good replacement for soliaire.

    HyperBowl Plus! Edition that is in Micro$oft Plus! for Windows XP only has two lanes in it (Roman Aqueduct and Classic), but HyperBowl Arcade Edition has six wacky lanes to play in (think mini-golf meets bowling - Classic, Roman Aqueduct, Yosemite Forest, Ship on High Seas, Streets of San Francisco, and Tokyo). Right now you can only buy it online at: http://www.hyperbowl.com

    Give it a try, for a change of pace.

    -GXW is watching you.

    (there is also a download version, but it apparently only works if you have Plus! for Windows XP: http://www.hyperbowl.com/plus/download.html)

  280. Castles of Dr. Creep by CaptainZapp · · Score: 1
    Actually Broderbund pioneered the idea of a game, where "oponents" must help each other some 15 years ago.

    Castles of Dr. Creep was a mixture between a graphics adventure- a D&D - and a jump & run game. Although graphics & sounds where far from what you have today (it wasn't even state of the art on a C64), it was one of the best games designed, ever

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    ich bin der musikant

    mit taschenrechner in der hand

    kraftwerk

  281. And of course, there's AC... by DrTentacle · · Score: 1

    There's also a new expansion out for Asheron's Call. Dark Majesty was released a month or so ago, and offers a whole new play area, populated with new content. It retails for around $20, does NOT require the original game to play (it's included in the price of the expansion) and includes the first month free (usually $10). The real selling point for me is the monthly content updates... it keeps my interest going and gets me wasting way too much time on this game!

  282. Do you mean "No One Lives Forever?" by schmelter_tim · · Score: 1
    Another FPS which had a good immersive story line was Who Wants To Live Forever. More tongue-in-cheek than violent. Shouldn't be too expensive now either.

    If you're talking about "The Operative: No One Lives Forever", I agree--a mostly fun, mission based FPS. The best thing about this game is the enemy dialog. When you're stealthily creeping along a balcony, listening to two German-accented criminals discuss correlation vs. causality vis-a-vis beer drinking and criminal behavior...just priceless.

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    "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." --/usr/games/fortune
  283. Combat Mission by Wreck · · Score: 2
    While I have many games, I have not ended up playing most of them for more than a month or two. One of them which is a keeper, is Combat Mission: Beyond Overlord. The game is now over a year old, and no cheaper, but if you have any liking at all for strategy games or WWII, this is the game to have.

    There is a very active community around the game, making "mods" for better looking terrain and armor, and putting out reams of scenarios, for free. You will never run out of new scenarios.

    CM is available for purchase only on the web, at the battlefront website. It's not in stores. There is also a demo available there, with two playable scenarios. Try it out and see if you are not amazed and terrified the first time you get shelled. I certainly was.

    This is the computer game that is the rightful heir to Squad Leader. Don't miss it. (Note I am not affiliated with BTS or battlefront in any way other than being a satisfied customer.)

  284. Re:Forgot Ghost Recon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot Ghost Recon--Beats the heck out of RtCW.

  285. ps2 .. Sims... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For Christmas I'm getting a ps2 and SSX tricky.

    The choice was .. in one way difficult and in another not.

    I needed a game with good reviews, that was beautiful (to show off ;) and it had to have a playable 2 player game.

    If I could have any game + console that I wanted... (long story :) it would be the gamecube so I could get Smash Bros Melee. To anyone who hasn't played the original: FIND IT or MELEE and PLAY the most *fun* (not necessarily the greatest) fighting game ever. Four people at once and this game becomes absolutely amazing.

    The Sims

    I find it ... disheartening ? ... that slashdot users always talk about "the sims." There *was* a better game out there.. but it seems to have disappeared. CREATURES. In my opinion, the sims is to creatures (1 2 and 3) what MS Windows is to Linux. Where the sims has fluff fluff and more fluff and is mostly for light hearted play, creatures has serious depth. Genetics, AI, medicine, raising generations instead of just a family all in creatures.

    Don't get me wrong (or think I'm a troll :P) The Sims is a fun game, I've spent a few hours playing it, but the first thing I noticed when I started playing it is that you couldn't have a baby, only adopt one... and children can't grow into adults. (those two things would increase the fun of the sims so much. Imagine you start out with a bachelor who meets a female sim and she moves in (they also need to add a marriage ceremony.. (a sims marriage, not a specific religion), they have a child (adoption by phone is okay) the baby grows into a child, the child grows into an adult and eventually the adult can move out of the house into another built/paid for house lot.

    Yah :> I type too much. Hope everyone gets the game they want :)

  286. Super Monkey Ball!!! by Nicodemus · · Score: 1

    I would have never even taken a second glance at this game if I was a the store, but after playing it at DesertLAN in Pheonix this weekend, I have to say that it is the absolute most addicting game ever. I wasn't interested in getting a gamecube until I played this game. It's got great puzzles (like labyrinth and marble drop) and mini-games (like monkey bowling, 9-ball and golf) for single player action, but also racing, fighting, and pilot-wings-ish target drop modes for great party play. Just buy 3 extra controllers and you're set. And I would bet that the female side of the force would get a kick out of it too.

    Nicodemus

  287. Re: FPS and illness by LF11 · · Score: 1

    Funny thing, some FPS games tend to make me ill too. Queasy, headache, eye-ache (not from the monitor--this is within a few minutes).

    Oddly enough, I've found that really low framerates and resolutions don't seem as bad, and it also helps if I'm actually *doing* something in the game. Just running around killing in SP with cheats...vomit (almost). Running around in an MP level full of killers doesn't make me queasy.

    Here's a wierd part; flight sims don't do this to me. Helicopter, plane, space, nothing. I can play for hours (I have) with no problem. Switch to FPS... yum (!).

    I think it's a relative of motion sickness, though I have no problems with airsickness or carsickness (can sleep, read, eat, etc).

    I'd love a non-drug fix for this. As it is, I play Half-Life about once a month-- really good game, but I don't feel so good afterwards. It's like an addiction; trying to control it, but succumbing to an occasional 'fix'.

    -lf

  288. best games to choose by timecop · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I think the best game to buy would be Quake3 or Return to Castle Wolfenstein.
    Games are so cool!

  289. if it's not as good as SMAC... by Technodummy · · Score: 1

    I'm not interested.

    SMAC raised my expectations of the Civ line.

  290. Shadows of Luclin ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WOOT !

  291. go with the classics. by Talnoris · · Score: 1

    With Baldurs Gate 2, Quake 2, and Starcraft gathering dust in the background, the game that has been eating all of my time for the past month fits on a 3.5 inch floppy.

    Nethack. The Dev Team really does think of everything.

  292. Re:Silent Hunter II and Aces of the Deep by talltrash · · Score: 1

    I echo your plea for an update of Aces of the Deep. I miss the thrill of calculating an intercept, racing on the surface to catch the prey, diving and firing, then sweating it out (literally) as the escorts punish you.

  293. all time best == Addams Family pinball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it avoids all of the things lacking in many pinball games,,,, a playfield which is not overloaded....multiple things to do...several 1 shot
    things which are worth doing....and all around good gameplay