Somebody should tell Glenn A. Baker that some copright holders like that kind of copying. They have as many moral and legal rights as he does, he is very inconsiderate.
As a matter of fact, MSFT has a massive colabaritive effort to elimimnate compition by introducing incompatibilities. My biggest need as consumer is seamless compatibility with a MSFT world.
(Mc world, hey it happened.)
I will buy new StarOffice versions at reasonable prices (70-100 dollars depending on features), but they can bet their farm that the first time a word document doesn't open correctly I will expect immediate attention to the problem.
Otherwise what am I paying for? I can efficiently work with.rtf's for free.
"With some creative editing, I bet someone could make Bob look like a very big closed source, pro-Microsoft, anti-free software guy, if they wanted to. Or at the very least, make some video that makes him sound a little off his rocker, in an attempt to make people discredit anything else he has to say."
Good. Maybe it will make the truth behind others motivations more obvious. Nothing like a little controversy to get people talking.
"If this bill is passed, how will it affect canadians?
Well, for one thing, if this bill is passed, I'll be moving there (Canada)."
Funny? The US is a bill away from being the tech getto of world. I'm out of here too if this thing passes without imeadiate supreme court chalange. I would only stay only if I change carreers. (not likely at this point!)
If you don't currrently live in the US stay the hell out for your own safety. That Russian travel advisory is no joke.
What country is relitivly safe from US invasion, and scrutinizes a US laws economic implications before considering adopting them?
Democracy in the US in danger...
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Chained Melodies
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· Score: 2
Unencumbered, six years from now a talented person will be able to create a full length cgi movie and soundtrack on their home PC and distribute it on the Internet. This is what Hollywood is afraid of.
They are using money to convince congressmen that we the people are the enemy. It seems to be working. Hopefully this won't cause a revolution due to unhappiness as seen in my new.sig.
Congress is failing the people by not encouraging the maximum transations in commerce. Such transactions in any non-essential market create an rock solid economic base in that market. Instead they are sacrifcing a large market to maintain a small one through brute force. This could be bad, very bad.
"It seems they were afraid that we would have such febble minds we couldn't distinguish between the reality of Columbine and a fictional account of a nuclear explosion near town."
Thats because MotherFscken Hollywood thinks we ARE the elloy. In the book they were skinnier, more attractive, more fair skinned and dumber, than the movie, kinda like supermodels. They shifted physical strength to the Morlock in the movie to create a contrast, but in the book they seemed more like intelligent (if mean and ugly) humans.
Don't bother with this movie, it is so mutilated to hollywoods priorities it completely misses the point.
FU Hollywood elitist freaks. You'll see just hard I can dig my claws into the first amendment(at the expense of copyright...) Later on you'll wonder why you ever pitted them against each other. I am not a sheep, and you sure as hell are not a wolf!
You said "When's the last time you saw a Microsoftie plow an airliner into a skyscraper, torch a research facility, or form a mob to take to the streets during a meeting?"
Slavery often ends brutally as well. Most Americans make us slaves though indifferance towards minority opression. Sensory depervation or water torture are definatly brutal when spread over a long enough period of time, yet do not need to utilize a angry mob of teenagers or a violent act. Class economics removes hope and independance from our future. Class economics are at the root of the Talibans power over their soldiers and are behind the inability of an individual with merit to sue a company without being wealthy to start with.
Our classes are no longer earned on a generational basis but inherited. Another name for that is a caste system. A caste system is bloodline slavery mixed with religion (of greed in this case). Given enough time slavery is always brutal. Our system can be a brutal as the 11th but not with such force in the span of an hour. Does that make it more humane?
His argument was poorly put but not toothless. Americans need to wake up to the fact that they can never Bill Gates without being rich to start with. He is not the American dream, but a generation of a legacy. Each person should have the means to make his own way, and they won't need a three generation head start.
New Civilization wonder of the world pattern
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Your civilization has built the Internet... (+2 per city on science.)
This obsoletes the Hollywood Wonder. ( you lose +1 per city happiness.)
(we are here)
You have 10 cities rioting.. you have decended into anarchy.
You government type has changed from a republic to fascisim.
Lets hope to it dosn't come down to "Are you sure you want to break that treaty with the Chinese?" This could have been prevented if our leaders had acknoledged the negitive effects of the Internet on Hollywood from the start. I still don't think they realize. Silly 10 year old playing civ...
Hearing Bob on the desktop is a little dishearening, but all he really managed to get me to question is Redhat's future.
Linux will take the desktop, it's just a matter of time. Remember to some companies, an operating system that can't run every little stupid-flash-game.exe is actually a good thing. The business desktop is different than the home desktop, they should be adressed differently. With a very specific set of goals per company/deparment it is a feasible target for many NOW. That is where great Linux desktop numbers will really begin.
Is that no other news sources seem to be carrying this until now.
Are they afraid or just not that observant? This is definatly newsworthy.
The ability to companies to donate money to politicians but shield which politician it is going to to is what is so evil about soft money. At least in the 20s the press could drag a politician through the mud based on his own specific donations. But what would the headline be now? at worst..."Republican party takes donations from Microsoft."
Campain money IS NOT SPEECH. It's just the opposite.
Geek1: Hey we are having a BSA party this weekend wana come?
Geek2: Huh, what's a BSA party?
Geek3: Just remember to act scared at first, it makes it more fun
Geek1: I'll make the call this time
Geek1 picks up cell phone and starts dialing.
Flash to new scene, big server room all three geeks sitting behind Internet terminals. Zoom to door view. A loud bang insues.
Voice behind door: "US Martials open up, we have a warrant."
Geek 1: comming
Geek 1 walks to door and opens it cops and serious looking guys in black suits run inside and start connecting laptops to hubs and switches.
BSA Agent: We've got you now scumbag, BSA!
BSA Agent2: We recieved anonymous tip, we understand you haven't bought a single software licence for any of these computers!
BSA Agent3: We have you now, there must be hundreds of servers here.
Geek2:(looking scared) Busted...
Geek 3:We will cooperate fully.
clock hands spin around
zoom back to scene...everyone is standing around a large screen . Geek 1 is playing with some cool themed desktop
BSA Agent2: I've never seen anthing like it...
Cop 1:It's so cool
flash to next scene, all the cops and agents are playing first person shooters and yelling at each other. A big LAN party.
Flash to next scene, big nurf war some cops are drinking beer in the corner with their shirts open. The drinking cops and geek 3 are singing together...
Flash to next scene. Things are quiet, Police and men are slowly walking towards the door, heads down.
BSA Agent2: (looks up)That was great. I'm really sorry, you are such nice guys. I quit!
BSA Agent 1:(looking very sincere he puts his hand on geek 1's shoulder) Sorry. We were wrong.
Everybody walks out. Door closes behind him
geek 3 turns to geek 2.
Geek 3: They lose more guys that way.
pause blinking servers are visible in background
Geek 2: (confused) OK... How did you do that?
play catchy song, fade out...
Seriously, are there any competitive alternatives to NVidia these days?
Strangly few slashdoters want to talk about this.
Personally, I'm starting to think about replacing my TNT2, but I'd kind of like to get something with open source linux drivers. At the same time, I don't want to have to go back to a Voodoo 5 or some shit like that just because it is open.
I totally agree. Not only would I buy such a card myself but I would advertise it to everybody I know as the best(most flexable) solution.
So, does any company make good graphics cards with open specs?
The Raedon 7500 (AIW as well?) is the best non-nvidia card in xfree (4.2) right now.
The Xfree guys are working on the 8500, but who knows.
The problem is a one-two punch
Nobody bothers to try with Linux since good free closed source drivers are made availible.
Nvidia bought one the players and shrunk it two a two way race.
I would care less if Nvidia had bought 3dfx or released their own closed drivers, but both.....
We were across from you last year (LILUG) I felt awful. The worst part is the people who stole probably don't even know what the hell Linux is. I hope they got beat up for selling someone a Computer without Windows.
"Hey man dis cumputer dusn't work. Whad you sell me! [pow]"
Plan on taking all money/hardware with at the end of the floor hours. The worst part about all this is the no napsack rule.
I've been considering purchasing an All-in-Wonder 8500DV, but if good support is not coming soon, I might hold off...
Make that two interested people. I am Planning on building a dual athlon mpx chipset dream machine in a few months. Right now 8500dv is my prefered card. One small problem for ATI though, I don't even own a supported Microsoft OS. Linux only.
I fear the Microsoft antitrust trial is deeply misunderstood, by
the prosecution and the public at large. The consequences could be dire
if a settlement is reached too early and in Microsoft's favor.
This case has a lot in common with the trials of the railroad
monopolies. By their end, public infrastructure in the form of
superhighways and was at hand. People no longer depended on the railroads
as the only means of transportation cross country, and federally funded
interstate roads provided an alternative to moving people and goods only
by tracks. The introduction and assistance of cross country roads from the
government helped resist the price fixing from the railroads and gave
people a choice. Ultimately that choice resulted in heightened interstatecommerce and heavy population of the west coast of the United States.
Like the railroad companies, closed source operating system
companies will always gravitate towards monopolistic unified control. This
is in part because of the difficulty of building a new operating system
infrastructure (building a new set of cross country tracks) and partially
because it lowers the parent companies costs. Any remedy must be ongoing
until the United States congress sees fit to address the cost of building,
obtaining, or securing a open source software infrastructure.
Any assistance from the government helps drive back the very real
market force of fear of obsolescence, which helps repair the psychological
damage caused by previous competition being wholly futile. Compare the
argument, "why should I buy a car when there are plenty of trains and
there are no roads" to the modern application obsolescence quandary, "Why
should I buy an operating system when there are no applications, and
Windows is free?" (Windows is not free, but that is the public
perception).
Like moving goods, only when people can choose to manipulate
information in the fashion which proves most efficient for them will the
free market flourish. At the least, Microsoft license terms and prices
must be predictable and uniform for however long it takes for a federal
infrastructure to be made readily available for use by Americans. Then the
market can choose once again.
Thank you for your time.
Matthew Newhall
President of LILUG
Long Island Linux Users Group
president@slashdotified.lilug.org
http://lilug.org
"You have a lot more to worry about with your BIOS or hard drive's CLOSED SOURCE firmware having DRM built in than a video card."
That's true but, your bios chip can be replaced and MBs easily avoided but there are only two choices for high end graphics, and the HD thing would kill the industry and the economy with it (hell it might even piss off Joe Sixpack.)
So it may not be DRM, how about spyware or purposly breaking key versions of the Linux kernel (say the version Redhat 7.2 uses for example)
Microsoft broke Windows on DR DOS, why not strong arm nVidia to break on key versions of Linux.
Not everybody that can use linux can build a new kernel you know. I just don't them to be orphaned.
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Somebody should tell Glenn A. Baker that some copright holders like that kind of copying. They have as many moral and legal rights as he does, he is very inconsiderate.
http://www.openmusicregistry.org/
http://www.fsf.org/
You're damn right it's important.
I will buy new StarOffice versions at reasonable prices (70-100 dollars depending on features), but they can bet their farm that the first time a word document doesn't open correctly I will expect immediate attention to the problem.
Otherwise what am I paying for? I can efficiently work with .rtf's for free.
Good. Maybe it will make the truth behind others motivations more obvious. Nothing like a little controversy to get people talking.
Well, for one thing, if this bill is passed, I'll be moving there (Canada)."
Funny? The US is a bill away from being the tech getto of world. I'm out of here too if this thing passes without imeadiate supreme court chalange. I would only stay only if I change carreers. (not likely at this point!)
If you don't currrently live in the US stay the hell out for your own safety. That Russian travel advisory is no joke.
What country is relitivly safe from US invasion, and scrutinizes a US laws economic implications before considering adopting them?
They are using money to convince congressmen that we the people are the enemy. It seems to be working. Hopefully this won't cause a revolution due to unhappiness as seen in my new .sig.
Congress is failing the people by not encouraging the maximum transations in commerce. Such transactions in any non-essential market create an rock solid economic base in that market. Instead they are sacrifcing a large market to maintain a small one through brute force. This could be bad, very bad.
"It seems they were afraid that we would have such febble minds we couldn't distinguish between the reality of Columbine and a fictional account of a nuclear explosion near town."
Thats because MotherFscken Hollywood thinks we ARE the elloy. In the book they were skinnier, more attractive, more fair skinned and dumber, than the movie, kinda like supermodels. They shifted physical strength to the Morlock in the movie to create a contrast, but in the book they seemed more like intelligent (if mean and ugly) humans.
Don't bother with this movie, it is so mutilated to hollywoods priorities it completely misses the point.
FU Hollywood elitist freaks. You'll see just hard I can dig my claws into the first amendment(at the expense of copyright...) Later on you'll wonder why you ever pitted them against each other. I am not a sheep, and you sure as hell are not a wolf!
Sorry to much RATM.
You said "When's the last time you saw a Microsoftie plow an airliner into a skyscraper, torch a research facility, or form a mob to take to the streets during a meeting?"
Slavery often ends brutally as well. Most Americans make us slaves though indifferance towards minority opression. Sensory depervation or water torture are definatly brutal when spread over a long enough period of time, yet do not need to utilize a angry mob of teenagers or a violent act. Class economics removes hope and independance from our future. Class economics are at the root of the Talibans power over their soldiers and are behind the inability of an individual with merit to sue a company without being wealthy to start with.
Our classes are no longer earned on a generational basis but inherited. Another name for that is a caste system. A caste system is bloodline slavery mixed with religion (of greed in this case). Given enough time slavery is always brutal. Our system can be a brutal as the 11th but not with such force in the span of an hour. Does that make it more humane?
His argument was poorly put but not toothless. Americans need to wake up to the fact that they can never Bill Gates without being rich to start with. He is not the American dream, but a generation of a legacy. Each person should have the means to make his own way, and they won't need a three generation head start.
Your civilization has built the Internet... (+2 per city on science.)
This obsoletes the Hollywood Wonder. ( you lose +1 per city happiness.)
(we are here)
You have 10 cities rioting.. you have decended into anarchy.
You government type has changed from a republic to fascisim.
Lets hope to it dosn't come down to "Are you sure you want to break that treaty with the Chinese?" This could have been prevented if our leaders had acknoledged the negitive effects of the Internet on Hollywood from the start. I still don't think they realize. Silly 10 year old playing civ...
Linux will take the desktop, it's just a matter of time. Remember to some companies, an operating system that can't run every little stupid-flash-game.exe is actually a good thing. The business desktop is different than the home desktop, they should be adressed differently. With a very specific set of goals per company/deparment it is a feasible target for many NOW. That is where great Linux desktop numbers will really begin.
How to make friends and influence people.
lol, snarf.
See .sig ...
Are they afraid or just not that observant? This is definatly newsworthy.
The ability to companies to donate money to politicians but shield which politician it is going to to is what is so evil about soft money. At least in the 20s the press could drag a politician through the mud based on his own specific donations. But what would the headline be now? at worst..."Republican party takes donations from Microsoft."
Campain money IS NOT SPEECH. It's just the opposite.
Pan to coffee shop.
Geek1: Hey we are having a BSA party this weekend wana come?
Geek2: Huh, what's a BSA party?
Geek3: Just remember to act scared at first, it makes it more fun
Geek1: I'll make the call this time
Geek1 picks up cell phone and starts dialing.
Flash to new scene, big server room all three geeks sitting behind Internet terminals. Zoom to door view. A loud bang insues. Voice behind door: "US Martials open up, we have a warrant."
Geek 1: comming
Geek 1 walks to door and opens it cops and serious looking guys in black suits run inside and start connecting laptops to hubs and switches.
BSA Agent: We've got you now scumbag, BSA!
BSA Agent2: We recieved anonymous tip, we understand you haven't bought a single software licence for any of these computers!
BSA Agent3: We have you now, there must be hundreds of servers here.
Geek2:(looking scared) Busted...
Geek 3:We will cooperate fully.
clock hands spin around
zoom back to scene... everyone is standing around a large screen . Geek 1 is playing with some cool themed desktop
BSA Agent2: I've never seen anthing like it...
Cop 1:It's so cool
flash to next scene, all the cops and agents are playing first person shooters and yelling at each other. A big LAN party.
Flash to next scene, big nurf war some cops are drinking beer in the corner with their shirts open. The drinking cops and geek 3 are singing together...
Flash to next scene. Things are quiet, Police and men are slowly walking towards the door, heads down.
BSA Agent2: (looks up)That was great. I'm really sorry, you are such nice guys. I quit!
BSA Agent 1:(looking very sincere he puts his hand on geek 1's shoulder) Sorry. We were wrong.
Everybody walks out. Door closes behind him geek 3 turns to geek 2.
Geek 3: They lose more guys that way.
pause blinking servers are visible in background
Geek 2: (confused) OK... How did you do that? play catchy song, fade out...
write across black screen "Linux"
Strangly few slashdoters want to talk about this.
Personally, I'm starting to think about replacing my TNT2, but I'd kind of like to get something with open source linux drivers. At the same time, I don't want to have to go back to a Voodoo 5 or some shit like that just because it is open.
I totally agree. Not only would I buy such a card myself but I would advertise it to everybody I know as the best(most flexable) solution.
So, does any company make good graphics cards with open specs?
The Raedon 7500 (AIW as well?) is the best non-nvidia card in xfree (4.2) right now.
The Xfree guys are working on the 8500, but who knows.
The problem is a one-two punch
Nobody bothers to try with Linux since good free closed source drivers are made availible.
Nvidia bought one the players and shrunk it two a two way race.
I would care less if Nvidia had bought 3dfx or released their own closed drivers, but both.....
What stratigical moron declared war on the Windows desktop before the tanks were designed or built yet? Wasn't it ZDNet or somthing?
"Come over here, I'll bite your ankles off!"
Our troops are just massing now. Don't you see it ? That dot on the horizon?
Duh
Poor foolish Red Hat.
Cringley said "first the geeks, we are here ----> then the businesses, then the world!"
A quote:
"Watch out, the robots want to steal your medicine!"
I am posting from a public email computer running redhat 7.2 but boasting a Windows sticker licence for Win2Kpro. (sigh)
At least they are being good to the .org's that applied.
"Hey man dis cumputer dusn't work. Whad you sell me! [pow]"
Plan on taking all money/hardware with at the end of the floor hours. The worst part about all this is the no napsack rule.
Make that two interested people. I am Planning on building a dual athlon mpx chipset dream machine in a few months. Right now 8500dv is my prefered card. One small problem for ATI though, I don't even own a supported Microsoft OS. Linux only.
Recruiting others would be easier if I could say, we only need 19 thousand more people.
In any case thanks.
I checked out transgaming and I think I like what I see, but how do we know how many people have signed up so far.
Are there statistics availible? It seems only fair for me since I would be signing up mainly as a way to contribute to Wine.
I fear the Microsoft antitrust trial is deeply misunderstood, by the prosecution and the public at large. The consequences could be dire if a settlement is reached too early and in Microsoft's favor.
This case has a lot in common with the trials of the railroad monopolies. By their end, public infrastructure in the form of superhighways and was at hand. People no longer depended on the railroads as the only means of transportation cross country, and federally funded interstate roads provided an alternative to moving people and goods only by tracks. The introduction and assistance of cross country roads from the government helped resist the price fixing from the railroads and gave people a choice. Ultimately that choice resulted in heightened interstatecommerce and heavy population of the west coast of the United States.
Like the railroad companies, closed source operating system companies will always gravitate towards monopolistic unified control. This is in part because of the difficulty of building a new operating system infrastructure (building a new set of cross country tracks) and partially because it lowers the parent companies costs. Any remedy must be ongoing until the United States congress sees fit to address the cost of building, obtaining, or securing a open source software infrastructure.
Any assistance from the government helps drive back the very real market force of fear of obsolescence, which helps repair the psychological damage caused by previous competition being wholly futile. Compare the argument, "why should I buy a car when there are plenty of trains and there are no roads" to the modern application obsolescence quandary, "Why should I buy an operating system when there are no applications, and Windows is free?" (Windows is not free, but that is the public perception).
Like moving goods, only when people can choose to manipulate information in the fashion which proves most efficient for them will the free market flourish. At the least, Microsoft license terms and prices must be predictable and uniform for however long it takes for a federal infrastructure to be made readily available for use by Americans. Then the market can choose once again.
Thank you for your time.
Matthew Newhall
President of LILUG
Long Island Linux Users Group
president@slashdotified.lilug.org
http://lilug.org
My physical address
That's true but, your bios chip can be replaced and MBs easily avoided but there are only two choices for high end graphics, and the HD thing would kill the industry and the economy with it (hell it might even piss off Joe Sixpack.)
So it may not be DRM, how about spyware or purposly breaking key versions of the Linux kernel (say the version Redhat 7.2 uses for example)
Microsoft broke Windows on DR DOS, why not strong arm nVidia to break on key versions of Linux.
Not everybody that can use linux can build a new kernel you know. I just don't them to be orphaned.