Kazaa Lite and Clean KMD are two programs for such a purpose. They deprive Sharman/Kazaa of their ad revenue. So they consider use/creation of such programs to be theft. I use Clean MKD. So Am I "stealing" Kazaa's service while I "steal" pr0n?
It bothers me to no end when people try to pretend that their stupidity is normal and that they're trying to help you out by telling you not to do the thing(s) that they obviously should not have.
Gee, did you guys know that you shouldn't stick a lit cigarette in your eye?
Everytime they call you on your personally financed cell phone, respond with "I'm on a job interview right now with [Insert biggest competitor here] and I can't talk".
The gun dealer in the example is given a set of rules to follow (most of them from the gun control acts of 1934 and 1968). If he does not abide by those rules, the BATF and FBI will come a knocking.
If the FBI and BATF are ineffective at enforcing the laws of the land, how can you expect Intratec or Glock (who have no authority to enforce any laws) to do any better?
You make a valid point that maybe it would be more accurate, in many cases, to say GNU/Linux when speaking of most distributions, but RMS has been hitting the crack pipe a little too hard if he thinks that he is going to dicatate to anyone what they must call the OS.
But then there is the slippery slope, if we must call it GNU/Linux if we use many GNU libs, programs, and utilities, what about every other thing that gets bolted to the system. I have never installed a linux box without installing XFree86, and Samba. Samba and XWindows are used more often that any of the GNU utilities on my boxen. There's no way in hell I'm going to call my machines GNU/XF86/Samba/Netatalk/Boxen.
I have a GMC vehicle, but I have Goodyear tires, and I use Castrol oil in the engine. It is not a Goodyear/Castrol/GMC vehicle. GMC built it, they get to name it.
Bill 68, and Margie 67 take a ride to the doctor's office. Margie has her checkup first. After she's done, it's Bill's turn. After Bill's checkup is complete he says to the doctor "Doc, Margie has been forgetting things alot. She's been forgetting where she parked the car when she goes to the market, she keeps forgetting to flush the toilet, and once she even forgot our only son's name."
The doctor replies. "I noticed that something was odd about Margie, but I couldn't put my finger on it. It's possible that she has Alzheimer's disease, or it's also possible that she has AIDS related dementia. We just need to run a few tests"
Bill interrupts "But Doc, I'm on social security, and I can't afford a bunch of tests. What can I do?"
The Doctor replies "Take Margie to the local mall and drop her off. If the police bring her home, we'll start treatment to slow the progression of the Alzheimer's. If she makes it home on her own, move out."
Islam and its offspring Baha'i the faithful are expected to seek knowledge. As I understand it, to learn about the world that God created, they faithful become closer to God. For them, this is faith. When I was still in high school, we had a middle eastern exchange student, his name was Ali. I wasn't really his friend, but we were friendly. I would sit with him at lunch and talk about math, science and religion. His understanding of higher math was greater when he was 17 than mine is now. In many islamic countries, people (though sometimes only men) are expected to become educated. I have always respected the Muslims for this.
XTianity on the other hand, throught the middle ages, punished those who sought knowledge. I never read anywhere in the Bible where it is mentioned that the earth is the center of the universe, but XTian authorities threatened people with death for proclaiming otherwise.
For medieval XTians, the faithful were expected to blindly accept that which they were told. This is the reason why the Europeans had such problems during the crusades. The Muslims often had better weapons.
I make no pretentions about having comprehensive knowledge of this period of time, but my understanding of the political and religious climates of Europe and the middle east make it clear why it is that western metal workers had such a hard time matching the weapons of the Islamic blacksmiths of that time.
We're talking about balls of cells here, not, walking, talking human beings.
I noticed that you have completely forgotten about fetal stem cell research. Some of the stem cell research is done with cells from fetuses. In those cases, we are not talking about "balls of cells".
If your way of winning an argument is to frame a truism, then you're not worth arguing with.
Only because on this facet of the argument, you can't win. Moral and ethical matters are open for debate. This is not. If we can not create DNA, RNA, and amino acids from carbon and water without using enzymes, cells, or other machinations of a natural biologocal source, we can not create life. We are ony harnessing it to do work. Saying that this is creating life akin to saying that a farmer is creating life. He plowed the fields, he planted the seeds, he may have watered the plants, but he did not create the life that springs forth from the earth.
I have not brought religion into this debate, and I do not plan to. Your assumptions about my religious leanings do far more damage to your argument than anything that I have said thus far.
Stem cell research does not use any tissue from human fetuses.
This is not true. Some stem cell research does not use any tissue from human fetuses. There is stem cell research that uses stem cells from blastocysts, there is some that uses stem cells from embryos, there is some research that uses cells from fetuses, and still some that uses placental stem cells.
Bush's decision is in no way acceptable
I agree, but for different reasons. Federal funds should NOT be used for any of this research.
The president wants to please the public, but deep down he knows what's good for the country as a whole, and handicapping American scientists relative to the rest of the world is not it.
You mean, unlike the way that German scientists were not handicapped 60 years ago? I say this to illustrate a point. Many people see this type of research as orwellian, to control the cells of an individual in order to limit his/her position in life. To limit the scope of one individual to that of a test subject who will never have a choice as to whether or not to take part.
As far as "creating life", we are a long way off from that. We won't be able to create life until we can build DNA, RNA, and/or amino acid chains from carbon and water with no help from any natural process.
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When 2.4.0 came out, it took me a little bit of time to get it properly configured and running. TWO DAYS after I had 2.4.0 running properly, 2.4.1 came out. At that point I decided FUCK IT!, I am only going to upgrade my kernel quarterly, on a mid number version change, or for security reasons. It's not worth the headache to upgrade kernels at every update.
The religious extreme still see the embryo research they hate.
Who is this "religious extreme? that you speak of?
Which religion do these people practice?
I am opposed to federal funding of fetal stem cell research because I'm opposed to legalized abortion. I support your right to be in favor of it, and ultimately we'll settle the issue at the ballot box. But what I'm getting at is this, I'm sure that some strides will be made in this area, and it will make it harder to work for reform of the nation's abortion laws.
Instead of being accused of wanting to deny women their rights, we'll be accused of wanting someone's child to die from a terrible disease.
I understand why bush made this decision, but I am opposed to ANY federal funding of ANY program that uses tissue from human fetuses.
I remember a couple of years ago the guys at l0pht set up an Apple ][ web server, just because they could.
Hobbyists do many things more for the joy of doing it than for the practical application.
Piston heads often will spend FAR more time and money on a car to customize or restore it than they could ever make off of selling it when finished.
Gun Collectors will sometimes spend twice as much on a gun and the parts to customize it than that gun will ever be worth.
Geeks will do things the long, and hard way with the computer(s) only because they want to be able to say that "I did this". Even if it would have been cheaper, easier and faster to just buy it that way.
What's the big deal? If it makes you happy, go for it.
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I believe the authors of this HeLa product would have to be her parents,
I disagree. Her parents may have provided the raw materials, however they did not create the work. No more than the person(s) who sold Picasso his paint and canvas created any of his work.
Her parents were the donors of the raw materials, however it was the RNA and DNA in her cells that did all of the work.
Could her estate sue for the profits from this?
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The way copyright law works, someone who produces a work gets automatic protection of that work. Though IANAL, I wonder if her estate could claim that the genes from her cells are a copyrighted work.
Hitler, well, he happened to think only aryans were human.
I don't believe that Hitler's psychosis was quite so cut and dry. Being that he was most likely half jewish, he knew that he couldn't be one of the Aryans that he thought and spoke so highly of.
Hitler's hate of Jews was very similar to Charles Manson's hatred of blacks. Manson believed himself to be half black as well.
There seems to be this fallacy that only dumb brutes are violent. If you look at the recent examples of the Columbine killers, or if you go back just a decade or so you have Colin Ferguson and Ted Bundy, both of whom were very intelligent, yet they were still murderers. The ultimate example of this is Hitler, I don't think that anyone will dispute his intelligence, but being smart didn't make him any less of a monster.
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Kazaa Lite and Clean KMD are two programs for such a purpose. They deprive Sharman/Kazaa of their ad revenue. So they consider use/creation of such programs to be theft. I use Clean MKD. So Am I "stealing" Kazaa's service while I "steal" pr0n?
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The professor of my Data Structures in C++ class.
It was more economical, if less accurate to describe him as a C++ professor.
LK
It bothers me to no end when people try to pretend that their stupidity is normal and that they're trying to help you out by telling you not to do the thing(s) that they obviously should not have.
Gee, did you guys know that you shouldn't stick a lit cigarette in your eye?
Don't use hot sauce for you 'roids!
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Everytime they call you on your personally financed cell phone, respond with "I'm on a job interview right now with [Insert biggest competitor here] and I can't talk".
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This sounds a lot like a story one of my C++ professors told us.
Was he at a wedding? Was it Bob W.?
If the answer to both of those questions is yes, then I know him.
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Since when is an ulcer an infectious disease?
This was supposed to be some great russian bear cpu. I hacen't heard poop since over a year ago, what gives?
Don't be so sure about that. If you look around, DSL providors have been going belly up like it's the law.
$300 here, $250 there, I'd rather just pay for Verizon DSL or a cable modem.
The gun dealer in the example is given a set of rules to follow (most of them from the gun control acts of 1934 and 1968). If he does not abide by those rules, the BATF and FBI will come a knocking.
If the FBI and BATF are ineffective at enforcing the laws of the land, how can you expect Intratec or Glock (who have no authority to enforce any laws) to do any better?
You make a valid point that maybe it would be more accurate, in many cases, to say GNU/Linux when speaking of most distributions, but RMS has been hitting the crack pipe a little too hard if he thinks that he is going to dicatate to anyone what they must call the OS.
But then there is the slippery slope, if we must call it GNU/Linux if we use many GNU libs, programs, and utilities, what about every other thing that gets bolted to the system. I have never installed a linux box without installing XFree86, and Samba. Samba and XWindows are used more often that any of the GNU utilities on my boxen. There's no way in hell I'm going to call my machines GNU/XF86/Samba/Netatalk/Boxen.
I have a GMC vehicle, but I have Goodyear tires, and I use Castrol oil in the engine. It is not a Goodyear/Castrol/GMC vehicle. GMC built it, they get to name it.
My turn, how about this one.
Bill 68, and Margie 67 take a ride to the doctor's office. Margie has her checkup first. After she's done, it's Bill's turn. After Bill's checkup is complete he says to the doctor "Doc, Margie has been forgetting things alot. She's been forgetting where she parked the car when she goes to the market, she keeps forgetting to flush the toilet, and once she even forgot our only son's name."
The doctor replies. "I noticed that something was odd about Margie, but I couldn't put my finger on it. It's possible that she has Alzheimer's disease, or it's also possible that she has AIDS related dementia. We just need to run a few tests"
Bill interrupts "But Doc, I'm on social security, and I can't afford a bunch of tests. What can I do?"
The Doctor replies "Take Margie to the local mall and drop her off. If the police bring her home, we'll start treatment to slow the progression of the Alzheimer's. If she makes it home on her own, move out."
Islam and its offspring Baha'i the faithful are expected to seek knowledge. As I understand it, to learn about the world that God created, they faithful become closer to God. For them, this is faith. When I was still in high school, we had a middle eastern exchange student, his name was Ali. I wasn't really his friend, but we were friendly. I would sit with him at lunch and talk about math, science and religion. His understanding of higher math was greater when he was 17 than mine is now. In many islamic countries, people (though sometimes only men) are expected to become educated. I have always respected the Muslims for this.
XTianity on the other hand, throught the middle ages, punished those who sought knowledge. I never read anywhere in the Bible where it is mentioned that the earth is the center of the universe, but XTian authorities threatened people with death for proclaiming otherwise.
For medieval XTians, the faithful were expected to blindly accept that which they were told. This is the reason why the Europeans had such problems during the crusades. The Muslims often had better weapons.
I make no pretentions about having comprehensive knowledge of this period of time, but my understanding of the political and religious climates of Europe and the middle east make it clear why it is that western metal workers had such a hard time matching the weapons of the Islamic blacksmiths of that time.
We're talking about balls of cells here, not, walking, talking human beings.
I noticed that you have completely forgotten about fetal stem cell research. Some of the stem cell research is done with cells from fetuses. In those cases, we are not talking about "balls of cells".
If your way of winning an argument is to frame a truism, then you're not worth arguing with.
Only because on this facet of the argument, you can't win. Moral and ethical matters are open for debate. This is not. If we can not create DNA, RNA, and amino acids from carbon and water without using enzymes, cells, or other machinations of a natural biologocal source, we can not create life. We are ony harnessing it to do work. Saying that this is creating life akin to saying that a farmer is creating life. He plowed the fields, he planted the seeds, he may have watered the plants, but he did not create the life that springs forth from the earth.
I have not brought religion into this debate, and I do not plan to. Your assumptions about my religious leanings do far more damage to your argument than anything that I have said thus far.
Stem cell research does not use any tissue from human fetuses.
This is not true. Some stem cell research does not use any tissue from human fetuses. There is stem cell research that uses stem cells from blastocysts, there is some that uses stem cells from embryos, there is some research that uses cells from fetuses, and still some that uses placental stem cells.
Bush's decision is in no way acceptable
I agree, but for different reasons. Federal funds should NOT be used for any of this research.
The president wants to please the public, but deep down he knows what's good for the country as a whole, and handicapping American scientists relative to the rest of the world is not it.
You mean, unlike the way that German scientists were not handicapped 60 years ago? I say this to illustrate a point. Many people see this type of research as orwellian, to control the cells of an individual in order to limit his/her position in life. To limit the scope of one individual to that of a test subject who will never have a choice as to whether or not to take part.
As far as "creating life", we are a long way off from that. We won't be able to create life until we can build DNA, RNA, and/or amino acid chains from carbon and water with no help from any natural process.
When 2.4.0 came out, it took me a little bit of time to get it properly configured and running. TWO DAYS after I had 2.4.0 running properly, 2.4.1 came out. At that point I decided FUCK IT!, I am only going to upgrade my kernel quarterly, on a mid number version change, or for security reasons. It's not worth the headache to upgrade kernels at every update.
The religious extreme still see the embryo research they hate.
Who is this "religious extreme? that you speak of?
Which religion do these people practice?
I am opposed to federal funding of fetal stem cell research because I'm opposed to legalized abortion. I support your right to be in favor of it, and ultimately we'll settle the issue at the ballot box. But what I'm getting at is this, I'm sure that some strides will be made in this area, and it will make it harder to work for reform of the nation's abortion laws.
Instead of being accused of wanting to deny women their rights, we'll be accused of wanting someone's child to die from a terrible disease.
I understand why bush made this decision, but I am opposed to ANY federal funding of ANY program that uses tissue from human fetuses.
I remember a couple of years ago the guys at l0pht set up an Apple ][ web server, just because they could.
Hobbyists do many things more for the joy of doing it than for the practical application.
Piston heads often will spend FAR more time and money on a car to customize or restore it than they could ever make off of selling it when finished.
Gun Collectors will sometimes spend twice as much on a gun and the parts to customize it than that gun will ever be worth.
Geeks will do things the long, and hard way with the computer(s) only because they want to be able to say that "I did this". Even if it would have been cheaper, easier and faster to just buy it that way.
What's the big deal? If it makes you happy, go for it.
I believe the authors of this HeLa product would have to be her parents,
I disagree. Her parents may have provided the raw materials, however they did not create the work. No more than the person(s) who sold Picasso his paint and canvas created any of his work.
Her parents were the donors of the raw materials, however it was the RNA and DNA in her cells that did all of the work.
The way copyright law works, someone who produces a work gets automatic protection of that work. Though IANAL, I wonder if her estate could claim that the genes from her cells are a copyrighted work.
we need to enact bow control and full arrow registration.
Another sensless walk-by arrowing.
Hitler, well, he happened to think only aryans were human.
I don't believe that Hitler's psychosis was quite so cut and dry. Being that he was most likely half jewish, he knew that he couldn't be one of the Aryans that he thought and spoke so highly of.
Hitler's hate of Jews was very similar to Charles Manson's hatred of blacks. Manson believed himself to be half black as well.
There seems to be this fallacy that only dumb brutes are violent. If you look at the recent examples of the Columbine killers, or if you go back just a decade or so you have Colin Ferguson and Ted Bundy, both of whom were very intelligent, yet they were still murderers. The ultimate example of this is Hitler, I don't think that anyone will dispute his intelligence, but being smart didn't make him any less of a monster.
Your point suggests that the testing and grading system is defective because it encourages bad habits that can last into adulthood.
My intent was to point to a flawed attitude that some people have towards education. You are in that classroom to learn, for the sake of learning.
I dunno, the knowledge of your own imminent demise doesn't seem particularly powerful.
If you gain advanced knowledge of someone coming to get you, you can prepare for their arrival.
Though it may not change the outcome, you can take some of them with you. That IS power.