22 year olds are typically either about to graduate from college or just did.
They're still in "study" mode. Older than that, useless information gets shoved aside as people get jobs and settle into doing repetitive day-to-day tasks.
They're not "forced" to learn anymore.
In short, nothing to see here, move...OH SHINY!!!
Yeah, like I was saying, I don't eat anything that an animal has crapped out.
I agree wholeheartedly with you. Like everything else in military life, it just requires some effort. I got a perfect PFT score every time I took it except once, and I was hungover that time. It helped that I was "a runner".
And yet, the ARMY is the only branch (from what I understand) that will give you an ASVAB waiver, if you rock out on it.
Also, I love the Navy, those guys took me wherever I needed to go.:-)
Since it appears I'm talking with a Navy guy, I actually got along pretty well with the Navy folks onboard the USS Ogden. We worked pretty closely together (the comm units did anyway) and the majority of them were pretty cool guys.
It pays to be nice to the folks you're working with, no matter what branch they're in. (The Seals onboard loved us, as we allowed them to us our comms, as they were getting a lot of run-around from the Navy Comm officers. Those guys are flat-out NUTS.
The very things that make us valuable -- the ability to think critically, take the initiative, and not be weighed down by conventional thinking is exactly the thing the military (like so many bureauacracies, large corporations, and organizations around the world) seems to weed out.
All the things you mentioned won't stop you from being a valuable member of the military, unless you make a big deal out of it.
Everyone who is a civilian seems to have this idea that the military essentially crushes the individuality out of you, and that's simply not the case at all. Critical thinking and being yourself is one of the greatest attributes of our military personnel. At the lower levels, is it? Sure. But I'd say (in the Corps anyway) that once you achieve a modicum of rank (Corporal AKA E-4 or above) you're EXPECTED to use your noggin and expected to be capable of thinking for yourself.
It's not all mindless stuff, and I didn't see a single Marine the entire time I was in that was "stripped of their individuality". IMO, there's this huge disconnect between what the military is actually like and what civilians perceive it to be like.
When I went in, I worked primarily on Banyan Vines servers and Windows 3.1 (then Windows for Work Groups, then Win 95 and migrated from Banyan (what a said day that was) to Windows 3.5.1 servers) as well as routers, hubs/switches in addition to secured communications (sat shots, encrypted comms, etc).
That was from 93 to IIRC, 96, and from 96 onward I did all manner of comms, radios, KGs, etc, etc.
By the time I got out, I was lagging behind a good bit in server/desktop technology, but communications-wise I was doing ok.
The point to all this is that the Marine Corps is treated like the red-headed stepson of the Navy, and tech changes in the military are slow, but moreso in the Marine Corps.
Cue some swabbie saying the Marine Corps is a department of the Navy, blah blah blah. I know. We all know. Now go take your dishbowl and your bellbottoms and leave me alone.;-P
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Little bat, clinging.
I can has space travel please?
HOLY SHIT, blast off!
a spiderman analogy gets beaten about the head, neck, chest, and shoulders with a rocket-propelled spaghetti launcher.
They were able to determine it was an octopus by the 90 million year old fossilized ramekin of marinara sauce next to it.
People will be forced to "program" using only if and then.
If: #2 with cheese
and: diet coke
and then: no and then
and then: no and then
and then: NO AND THEN
AND THEN! NO AND THEN
WTF? Really? Where?
All you damned programmers are gonna need some network support too...sign me up.
Tragedy today as former President Gerald Ford was eaten by wolves. He was delicious.
Tragedy today as former President Gerald Ford was eaten by wolves. He was delicious.
22 year olds are typically either about to graduate from college or just did.
They're still in "study" mode. Older than that, useless information gets shoved aside as people get jobs and settle into doing repetitive day-to-day tasks.
They're not "forced" to learn anymore.
In short, nothing to see here, move...OH SHINY!!!
Yeah, like I was saying, I don't eat anything that an animal has crapped out.
Not only that, but you can use the existing cable more than likely already in the building.
It's as if countries in the "western" world these days are in a race to see who can remove citizen rights the fastest.
I really don't understand it. Have we really fallen so far so fast?
As always, it's just a matter of following the money and/or who has the most to gain from these measures. Find that, then you can combat it.
Oh bullshit. Being an adult means not being an asshole to your co-workers.
As you said, you've all got to get along, so why allow one jerkoff to ruin everyone else's day?
I have no problem firing people that suck at life. I've never suffered for it.
Don't let one ass-clown's childish behavior cause issues in the work place. You'll have a more productive work place because of it.
teach them to search the whole town for a frigging condom.
What the hell? It's not coated in platinum? Weak.
When did they switch to crunches from situps? (Got out in 98)
If you weigh 215 and are slim, then you must be quite tall.
I agree wholeheartedly with you. Like everything else in military life, it just requires some effort. I got a perfect PFT score every time I took it except once, and I was hungover that time. It helped that I was "a runner".
Best time was 16:00 flat for the run.
Yep, flying in the CH-46 you learned quick....if it wasn't leaking Hydraulic's fluid, you were in deep isht.
(they always leaked, if they didn't leak, they were out of fluid. Bad things happen.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=985gQXDNO5g
If reading the review wasn't punishment enough... :P
And yet, the ARMY is the only branch (from what I understand) that will give you an ASVAB waiver, if you rock out on it.
Also, I love the Navy, those guys took me wherever I needed to go. :-)
Since it appears I'm talking with a Navy guy, I actually got along pretty well with the Navy folks onboard the USS Ogden. We worked pretty closely together (the comm units did anyway) and the majority of them were pretty cool guys.
It pays to be nice to the folks you're working with, no matter what branch they're in. (The Seals onboard loved us, as we allowed them to us our comms, as they were getting a lot of run-around from the Navy Comm officers. Those guys are flat-out NUTS.
The very things that make us valuable -- the ability to think critically, take the initiative, and not be weighed down by conventional thinking is exactly the thing the military (like so many bureauacracies, large corporations, and organizations around the world) seems to weed out.
All the things you mentioned won't stop you from being a valuable member of the military, unless you make a big deal out of it.
Everyone who is a civilian seems to have this idea that the military essentially crushes the individuality out of you, and that's simply not the case at all. Critical thinking and being yourself is one of the greatest attributes of our military personnel. At the lower levels, is it? Sure. But I'd say (in the Corps anyway) that once you achieve a modicum of rank (Corporal AKA E-4 or above) you're EXPECTED to use your noggin and expected to be capable of thinking for yourself.
It's not all mindless stuff, and I didn't see a single Marine the entire time I was in that was "stripped of their individuality". IMO, there's this huge disconnect between what the military is actually like and what civilians perceive it to be like.
Oh, and as far as how I was treated goes...I was treated like a Marine. Lower than snake shit by my superiors, like a mini-deity by my underlings. :-D
When I went in, I worked primarily on Banyan Vines servers and Windows 3.1 (then Windows for Work Groups, then Win 95 and migrated from Banyan (what a said day that was) to Windows 3.5.1 servers) as well as routers, hubs/switches in addition to secured communications (sat shots, encrypted comms, etc).
That was from 93 to IIRC, 96, and from 96 onward I did all manner of comms, radios, KGs, etc, etc.
By the time I got out, I was lagging behind a good bit in server/desktop technology, but communications-wise I was doing ok.
The point to all this is that the Marine Corps is treated like the red-headed stepson of the Navy, and tech changes in the military are slow, but moreso in the Marine Corps.
Cue some swabbie saying the Marine Corps is a department of the Navy, blah blah blah. I know. We all know. Now go take your dishbowl and your bellbottoms and leave me alone. ;-P
The issue is not that people can't learn, it's that they're not being taught how to think.
That's the big issue.
The problem is the fundamental way that kids are "taught". Memorization is not learning.
It doesn't bother you that the guy who is supposed to be the Fed CIO wasn't aware (if that's the case) that there was corruption in his own office?
Cause it bothers me.
A lot of us are the people who setup computers/networks and various other technology.
That's not only the norm, it's expected that you know what you're doing.
In other words, good question, wrong crowd.