shut up dude. stereotyping americans as ignorant like that is racism as much as stereotyping brown skinned people as terrorists. you're no better than those few Americans who actually do think like that.
You're right. I think what the original poster intended was the stop people from stereotyping India and starting to bash it for poverty and corruption every time a new piece about some new developments in India is posted to/.
Fine, theres a lot of corruption AND poverty here. But that doesn't mean they dont deserve any credit for the good things they do.
why dont you come out of your shithole cellar once in a while? or atleast watch the Discovery channel if you want to comment on other countries. Ignorant piece of shit.
which, as most people know, is different from HINDU. Hedoesnt belong to the BJP either...though his candidature was forwarded by the BJP. And he is no more for high tech military Indian Nationalism than Bush is for high tech military US Nationalism.
sure, thats one way to commit suicide. one billion people armed with everything from sticks to swords to.303 rifles and even nuclear weapons out to get your throat. Coz the iraqis may have hated saddam but we love our democratic government.
I dont know about Taiwan, but I live in India in a fairly large city. I have given my GRE recently and know for a fact that there are no 'question dumps' or sites that publish questions around here.
I am in touch with a lot of people who have given or are giving their GRE and the preparation material they use is the same guides by Barrons, Kaplan and Princeton that American students use. Infact these CDs too are pretty costly around here, so not everyone gets their hands on one.
Checkout www.soundbuzz.com, the partner site,more specifically the Genre links to your right there, they've got everything from Westlife to Alanis Morisette, even the Moulin Rouge soundtrack and almost all the good Indian songs that I want.
I am an Engg student from India and yes, people who are good programmers do earn salaries which though in dollar terms might seem meagre to you, are more than adequate to lead a comfortable life.
In fact in the pre-slump days , some of the office peons in Wipro and Infosys were (Rupee) Millionaires because of their ESOPS.
Imagine that !
The individuals are top of the pack because they are in the US ? Does that mean people can become good programmers only if they live in the US ?
I dont think so.
I am doing my B.E with C.S in India and while i agree we have our share of bad programmers I have met some of the best around here and their code is no worse then a lot of open source code that I see which is coded in US and often better.
And about furthering our skills, the premise that we cant even buy books is really faulty. Infact all popular programming books published in the US have an Indian edition which is often 1/10th the price and even poor students studying for their BE ( like me:) ) can afford them.
Whether you want to outsource your work or not is ofcourse your decision but please dont say people are bad programmers just because they are not in the US.
India does not have one ISP, there are atleast a few thousand, each sizable town has several private ISPs and there are more than 5 which have their own International Gateways.
India has 15 languages, but there is only one webmail provider which provides services to mail in languages other than English, and anyway devnagari scripts are hard to type on your normal 108 key keyboard
The stupid things like lashkar@hotmail.com were probably "intelligent guesses" bye the Times of India reporter, who you must admit is not any dumber than non-tech reporters in the US, or even your ex presideng Al-Gore who thinks he "invented" the internet.
ignorance my friend
The Indian culture is not decadent
and neither is its education
ever heard of a U.S state that can boast of 100% literacy?
We can take Kerala
Who runs the Silicon Valley ?
Indians Do
Netscape, Microsoft, Oracle, Intel all have major Indian scientists/ programmers who contributed majorly to their success
Nasa i believe has an overwhelming no. of Indians, so much so there is an Indian food Restaurant/Canteen
Poverty Yes, unfortunately
Child Labour (not slavery - you get paid for labout though it isnt good either) Yes because of poverty again
Decadence in Culture - DEFINITELY NO
Decadence in Education - DEFINITELY NO
Lots of Questions, here are some clarifications
1) Cybercafes are for tourists ?
Not in India, in India, more users access the net from cybercafes than from homes, i suspect the figure might be double because not many people can afford a computer when their annual salary is less than its cost. So a LOT of people are affected
2) Why should we care ? Who needs porn ?
Lots of people may need it and I am not one of them. Also this is not just about porn, this is about something else. The Indian I.T act empowers a police officer above a certain rank to make arrests without a warrant. Now if i pissed off my neighbouring police officer with loud rock music, he could easily have me 'fixed' in for an year and even if he never proved the charges, he wouldnt need to- in India my case wouldnt come up for hearing before atleast 3 months. Most drag upto years and people endup in jail for more time as undertrials than the maximum sentence they could get for their crimes.This is not a speculation, it is quite often that such things happen here.
3) I dont want the world to know what sites i visit. If tomorrow i start a net campaign against the ruling party, they could and would have me in jail in about 24 hours. Just yesterday, the first thing the chief minister of an Indian state did after getting elected was to put an opposite party candidate in prison for 'poll violence'.
4) If the govt wants to stop porno access, they can ban the urls from the servers of the handful International Gateways that India has, why play big brother ?
All said and done, India is still a techno savvy country with only a few people like the Bombay Commisioner, who is still learning MS-Office with his colleagues,who think they can do anything and get away with it.That is why we do expect that Some-one will stop this from happening.
How is this different from Carnivore ?
It is even worse, with Carnivore, you had my i.p address and then you may be able to track my home address, with I.D cards you straightaway have my address and phone number.
There is one positive thing however and that is that potenital crackers now have a greater chance of being caught, but most Indian sites are hacked by Pakistani punks, maybe the govt should look for the enemy somewhere else instead of in their own country.
regards
The Zapper
Slashdot Mirror
shut up dude. stereotyping americans as ignorant like that is racism as much as stereotyping brown skinned people as terrorists. you're no better than those few Americans who actually do think like that.
You're right. I think what the original poster intended was the stop people from stereotyping India and starting to bash it for poverty and corruption every time a new piece about some new developments in India is posted to /.
Fine, theres a lot of corruption AND poverty here. But that doesn't mean they dont deserve any credit for the good things they do.
why dont you come out of your shithole cellar once in a while? or atleast watch the Discovery channel if you want to comment on other countries. Ignorant piece of shit.
which, as most people know, is different from HINDU. Hedoesnt belong to the BJP either...though his candidature was forwarded by the BJP. And he is no more for high tech military Indian Nationalism than Bush is for high tech military US Nationalism.
thats bullshit. Microsoft doesnt hire even 5% of India's software professionals.
sure, thats one way to commit suicide. one billion people armed with everything from sticks to swords to .303 rifles and even nuclear weapons out to get your throat. Coz the iraqis may have hated saddam but we love our democratic government.
The official per capita income is 380-420, do you know the number of people who dont report their income?
Anyway around here, every cabbie, peon and roadside hawker has a cell phone.
I dont know about Taiwan, but I live in India in a fairly large city. I have given my GRE recently and know for a fact that there are no 'question dumps' or sites that publish questions around here.
I am in touch with a lot of people who have given or are giving their GRE and the preparation material they use is the same guides by Barrons, Kaplan and Princeton that American students use. Infact these CDs too are pretty costly around here, so not everyone gets their hands on one.
The site is behind times. Abdul Kalam IS the president of India.
http://www.rediff.com/election/1999/aug/24evm.htm
Though they were used in a countrywide election for the first time only in 1999
Checkout www.soundbuzz.com, the partner site,more specifically the Genre links to your right there, they've got everything from Westlife to Alanis Morisette, even the Moulin Rouge soundtrack and almost all the good Indian songs that I want.
The Buddha Smiles!
If this argument doesnt hold up, that means the US government can keep controlling the whole world by passing DMCA like laws.
Thats absurd!
Refer Subject :P
This is great
Finally a big Indian Company is doing some big Linux Work.
The bad part is they are doing it in Ireland
Wonder Why
I am an Engg student from India and yes, people who are good programmers do earn salaries which though in dollar terms might seem meagre to you, are more than adequate to lead a comfortable life.
In fact in the pre-slump days , some of the office peons in Wipro and Infosys were (Rupee) Millionaires because of their ESOPS.
Imagine that !
Guess like we Indians are taking over the Guru business again. Only its CS now instead of spirituality :)
The individuals are top of the pack because they are in the US ? Does that mean people can become good programmers only if they live in the US ?
:) ) can afford them.
I dont think so.
I am doing my B.E with C.S in India and while i agree we have our share of bad programmers I have met some of the best around here and their code is no worse then a lot of open source code that I see which is coded in US and often better.
And about furthering our skills, the premise that we cant even buy books is really faulty. Infact all popular programming books published in the US have an Indian edition which is often 1/10th the price and even poor students studying for their BE ( like me
Whether you want to outsource your work or not is ofcourse your decision but please dont say people are bad programmers just because they are not in the US.
India does not have one ISP, there are atleast a few thousand, each sizable town has several private ISPs and there are more than 5 which have their own International Gateways.
India has 15 languages, but there is only one webmail provider which provides services to mail in languages other than English, and anyway devnagari scripts are hard to type on your normal 108 key keyboard
The stupid things like lashkar@hotmail.com were probably "intelligent guesses" bye the Times of India reporter, who you must admit is not any dumber than non-tech reporters in the US, or even your ex presideng Al-Gore who thinks he "invented" the internet.
So There!
Slashdot is 3 hours behind BBC. We need to do better slashdotters!
the link should have pointed to
www.ResierFS.com
i.e. ReiserFS.
ignorance my friend The Indian culture is not decadent and neither is its education ever heard of a U.S state that can boast of 100% literacy? We can take Kerala Who runs the Silicon Valley ? Indians Do Netscape, Microsoft, Oracle, Intel all have major Indian scientists/ programmers who contributed majorly to their success Nasa i believe has an overwhelming no. of Indians, so much so there is an Indian food Restaurant/Canteen Poverty Yes, unfortunately Child Labour (not slavery - you get paid for labout though it isnt good either) Yes because of poverty again Decadence in Culture - DEFINITELY NO Decadence in Education - DEFINITELY NO
Lots of Questions, here are some clarifications 1) Cybercafes are for tourists ? Not in India, in India, more users access the net from cybercafes than from homes, i suspect the figure might be double because not many people can afford a computer when their annual salary is less than its cost. So a LOT of people are affected 2) Why should we care ? Who needs porn ? Lots of people may need it and I am not one of them. Also this is not just about porn, this is about something else. The Indian I.T act empowers a police officer above a certain rank to make arrests without a warrant. Now if i pissed off my neighbouring police officer with loud rock music, he could easily have me 'fixed' in for an year and even if he never proved the charges, he wouldnt need to- in India my case wouldnt come up for hearing before atleast 3 months. Most drag upto years and people endup in jail for more time as undertrials than the maximum sentence they could get for their crimes.This is not a speculation, it is quite often that such things happen here. 3) I dont want the world to know what sites i visit. If tomorrow i start a net campaign against the ruling party, they could and would have me in jail in about 24 hours. Just yesterday, the first thing the chief minister of an Indian state did after getting elected was to put an opposite party candidate in prison for 'poll violence'. 4) If the govt wants to stop porno access, they can ban the urls from the servers of the handful International Gateways that India has, why play big brother ? All said and done, India is still a techno savvy country with only a few people like the Bombay Commisioner, who is still learning MS-Office with his colleagues,who think they can do anything and get away with it.That is why we do expect that Some-one will stop this from happening. How is this different from Carnivore ? It is even worse, with Carnivore, you had my i.p address and then you may be able to track my home address, with I.D cards you straightaway have my address and phone number. There is one positive thing however and that is that potenital crackers now have a greater chance of being caught, but most Indian sites are hacked by Pakistani punks, maybe the govt should look for the enemy somewhere else instead of in their own country. regards The Zapper