Finland (first really democratic country in the world), Iceland and New Zealand come to mind. USA didn't become a real democracy until 1920, 14 years after Finland.
And it will likely become apparent that it is the only one of the BSDs that will scale on the massively multicore and multiprocessor consumer-grade hardware of the near future. Reportedly, it has become better than Irix at many tasks, and is even beginning to rival Solaris. With Irix still trumping Linux in most cases, this goes to show how far ahead DragonFly BSD already is.
Linux was up & running on 128-way SGI Origin Supercomputers back in 2001. Today, the kernel that you get from kernel.org works with 512-way systems. So what are these "consumer-grade" system you talk about? Quad-core machines? Linux works on those just fine. Hell, since Linux works OOB with 512 CPU's, I don't think that there will be any issues with "consumer-grade" multicore-systems. And, FWIW, just few months ago Linux added support for Sparc T1, Sun's multicore & multithreaded CPU.
So what are these advantages Dragonfly has over Linux? You claim that it scales better with cores and CPU's. I dispute that claim. Please show some raw data to back up your claim. How many CPU's has Dragonfly been tested with? If you want to see the number of CPU's Linux can work with, take a look at the fastest supercomputers in the world. Those systems have thousands of CPU's, and they usually run Linux. Are you saying that Dragonfly is even better? Prove it.
It sure seems like that. Of course we don't have actual consoles to test yet, but the wiimote seems to be the thing that everybody focuses on, Nintendo included.
"As far as I know m'boy, 3d mice have been around for awhile."
I know, but we are talking about CONSOLES here. And while there have been motion-sensing controllers before, they were basically just gimmicks, and not the defining feature of the system.
"Can't say I've noticed much innovation in Nintendos kit recently either to be honest."
Well, the entire system seems to be built around the wiimote. Sure, we have had controllers with motion-sensing before, but they have always been a secondary features, a gimmick if you will. In Wii, that is the defining feature of the system. And that fact alone is enough to set Wii apart from PS3 and Xbox.
I'm definitely interested in the Wii, and I'm no fanboy. I have never owned a console (apart from the Philips Videopak I had as a kid). Why the Wii, and not PS3 or Xbox? Well, where is the innovation in Xbox and PS3? They seem to be the exact same stuff as their predecessors were, just with prettier graphics. Higher resolutions and more polygons does not equal "innovation". And Sony has been screwing up everything recently, starting with the rootkit-fiasco right down to the PS3-pricing. Because of those reasons, I will steer clear of PS3. Xbox is boring as well. And they are both big machines that run hot.
Now, the Wii.... The price is right, and it actually seems INTERESTING. And it seems that it will have games that even the Mrs. could enjoy. So which to get? PS3 or Xbox which are exactly the same as consoles before them were, the games are just shinier. OTOH, the Wii is quite cheap, and they are actually trying to do something new with it.
Tell 50 people that you're going to the store to buy a DAP and they'll have no idea what you're talking about, but if you tell them you're going to buy an iPod, they'll smile and tell you all about how they think iPod's are the bee's knees.
Maybe that's because no-one uses the word "DAP"? But if you mention that "I'm going to buy an mp3-player", most people will know what you are talking about.
While roaming might be a "problem", in reality it's not THAT big of an issue. 98% of the time people stay in their own countries. And at least in Finland the cost of calls is about 6-8 cents a minute. Less than half the 20 cents you quoted. And the service is usually loaded with all the features you could ever want (caller-ID, SMS, MMS, GPRS, conference-calls, voicemail etc. etc.) And the phones are unlocked and not crippled.
Do Americans still pay for the calls they receive?
Stephen Hawking: Much anger in him... like his father. Albert Einstein: Was I any different when you taught me?
While travelling near FTL-speeds could help you travel to the future, I don't think it's possible to travel back in time. In short: your script sucks! Back to the drawing-board buddy!
A side note: men with ALS are capable of eye control, sphincter control (they do not pee or shit themselves uncontrollably), as well as able to have erections and orgasms.
Thanks for the mental image, dude! Stephen Hawking.... *shudder*.
SGI MIPS-workstations are going away, MIPS itself is not going anywhere, It's still running in millions of embedded devices, and more will be announced in the future.
You can be pretty certain that Core Duo is cheaper in reality than Core Duo 2. In the end of this year, quarter of Intels mobile-CPU will be Core Duo's. WHy would anyone use them instead of Core Duo 2, if they are slower, are pin-compatible (so customers could switch to Merom with ease) and cost the same? Answer: they wouldn't. So Core Duo must have something Core Duo 2 does not. And I bet that "something" is price.
Well, no-one is going to run Windows Server as their desktop-OS, whereas NT was a decent desktop-OS back in the day. As to your comments regarding XP.... Well, I DID say that the user could just stick to their current OS, but that's not something MS would like the user to do. They would like them to upgrade to Vista instead.
Difference is that Vista is a replacement for their current product. When someone wants to buy an OS from MS, Vista is the thing they will get. Now, with ME and Bob, difference was that they weren't the only choice. Bob was released alongside other MS OS'es. Users could use something else than Bob. ME was a replacement for consumer-Windows, but users still had Windows NT/W2K as an alternative. With Vista, the only alternative to Vista is a different version of Vista, and nothing else. Well, the user could just stick to their current OS, but that's hardly an ideal solution for MS.
Just hold the mute button on the keyboard while booting. Voila, problem solved...
So I'm required to jump through hoops to fix the issue? And what you are describing is not a solution, it's a workaround. I don't want the chime. At all. And I don't want to hold down keys when I start up the system. Those kinds of things are an extra hassle that should NOT be forced on the user, just because he wants a silent system.
f the PHB has to make an argument for "Edgy Eft" to a bunch of other PHBs
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but.... If you are dumb enough not to know the difference between PRODUCT NAME and INTERNAL CODENAME, then you really shouldn't be taking part in this discussion. The next version of Ubuntu is NOT called "Edgy Eft", and no PHB is going to make a case for "Edgy Eft". Edgy Eft is a CODENAME of the OS, the REAL name of the OS is "Ubuntu Linux 6.10". Is that REALLY so difficult to understand?
Have you ever seen PHB's make a case for "springboard"? No you haven't. But they HAVE talked about Windows XP Service Pack 2 (codenamed "Springobard").
Only if you haven't muted audio. If you mute the audio output and then reboot (or shutdown and then power on), you won't hear the power-on chime.
So it's similar to Vista then? You need to mute the computer in order to not hear the chine, and then un-mute it again?
I don't know about rest of you guys, but I find the Mac startup-chime _annoying_. And the user should be able to disable with zero hassle, and in such way that it does not affect rest of the system!
Oh - and switching to Intel does not mean Apple had to stop innovating. Have you seen MagSafe?
Similar systems have been used in deep fat fryers for quite some time, so there's nothing innovative about it. Yes, Apple was the first to use it in a laptop, but the invention itself is not new.
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Finland (first really democratic country in the world), Iceland and New Zealand come to mind. USA didn't become a real democracy until 1920, 14 years after Finland.
Last time I checked, FVWM was just a WM, and not a proper desktop as such.
Linux was up & running on 128-way SGI Origin Supercomputers back in 2001. Today, the kernel that you get from kernel.org works with 512-way systems. So what are these "consumer-grade" system you talk about? Quad-core machines? Linux works on those just fine. Hell, since Linux works OOB with 512 CPU's, I don't think that there will be any issues with "consumer-grade" multicore-systems. And, FWIW, just few months ago Linux added support for Sparc T1, Sun's multicore & multithreaded CPU.
So what are these advantages Dragonfly has over Linux? You claim that it scales better with cores and CPU's. I dispute that claim. Please show some raw data to back up your claim. How many CPU's has Dragonfly been tested with? If you want to see the number of CPU's Linux can work with, take a look at the fastest supercomputers in the world. Those systems have thousands of CPU's, and they usually run Linux. Are you saying that Dragonfly is even better? Prove it.
"So it's different now?"
It sure seems like that. Of course we don't have actual consoles to test yet, but the wiimote seems to be the thing that everybody focuses on, Nintendo included.
"As far as I know m'boy, 3d mice have been around for awhile."
I know, but we are talking about CONSOLES here. And while there have been motion-sensing controllers before, they were basically just gimmicks, and not the defining feature of the system.
"Gamecube, N64? Where was the innovation in them?"
Beats me. What those particular consoles has to do with Wii, is beyond me, though.
"Can't say I've noticed much innovation in Nintendos kit recently either to be honest."
Well, the entire system seems to be built around the wiimote. Sure, we have had controllers with motion-sensing before, but they have always been a secondary features, a gimmick if you will. In Wii, that is the defining feature of the system. And that fact alone is enough to set Wii apart from PS3 and Xbox.
I'm definitely interested in the Wii, and I'm no fanboy. I have never owned a console (apart from the Philips Videopak I had as a kid). Why the Wii, and not PS3 or Xbox? Well, where is the innovation in Xbox and PS3? They seem to be the exact same stuff as their predecessors were, just with prettier graphics. Higher resolutions and more polygons does not equal "innovation". And Sony has been screwing up everything recently, starting with the rootkit-fiasco right down to the PS3-pricing. Because of those reasons, I will steer clear of PS3. Xbox is boring as well. And they are both big machines that run hot.
Now, the Wii.... The price is right, and it actually seems INTERESTING. And it seems that it will have games that even the Mrs. could enjoy. So which to get? PS3 or Xbox which are exactly the same as consoles before them were, the games are just shinier. OTOH, the Wii is quite cheap, and they are actually trying to do something new with it.
Maybe that's because no-one uses the word "DAP"? But if you mention that "I'm going to buy an mp3-player", most people will know what you are talking about.
While roaming might be a "problem", in reality it's not THAT big of an issue. 98% of the time people stay in their own countries. And at least in Finland the cost of calls is about 6-8 cents a minute. Less than half the 20 cents you quoted. And the service is usually loaded with all the features you could ever want (caller-ID, SMS, MMS, GPRS, conference-calls, voicemail etc. etc.) And the phones are unlocked and not crippled.
Do Americans still pay for the calls they receive?
Is THAT your definite proof that "KDE is bloated!"? Couldn't that be used as a "proof" that "GNOME is crippled!"?
That settles it! Come on Vista, my credit-card is ready!
While travelling near FTL-speeds could help you travel to the future, I don't think it's possible to travel back in time. In short: your script sucks! Back to the drawing-board buddy!
But it will live on as Hawking Radiation! A small comfort, yes, but still better than nothing.
Thanks for the mental image, dude! Stephen Hawking.... *shudder*.
SGI MIPS-workstations are going away, MIPS itself is not going anywhere, It's still running in millions of embedded devices, and more will be announced in the future.
You can be pretty certain that Core Duo is cheaper in reality than Core Duo 2. In the end of this year, quarter of Intels mobile-CPU will be Core Duo's. WHy would anyone use them instead of Core Duo 2, if they are slower, are pin-compatible (so customers could switch to Merom with ease) and cost the same? Answer: they wouldn't. So Core Duo must have something Core Duo 2 does not. And I bet that "something" is price.
Well, no-one is going to run Windows Server as their desktop-OS, whereas NT was a decent desktop-OS back in the day. As to your comments regarding XP.... Well, I DID say that the user could just stick to their current OS, but that's not something MS would like the user to do. They would like them to upgrade to Vista instead.
1.66Ghz Core Duo in the low-end, 1.83Ghz Core Duo in the hi-end. No pricedrop though :(.
Difference is that Vista is a replacement for their current product. When someone wants to buy an OS from MS, Vista is the thing they will get. Now, with ME and Bob, difference was that they weren't the only choice. Bob was released alongside other MS OS'es. Users could use something else than Bob. ME was a replacement for consumer-Windows, but users still had Windows NT/W2K as an alternative. With Vista, the only alternative to Vista is a different version of Vista, and nothing else. Well, the user could just stick to their current OS, but that's hardly an ideal solution for MS.
They might have zillion cores and zillion threads, but if the resulting performance still sucks, does it matter?
So I'm required to jump through hoops to fix the issue? And what you are describing is not a solution, it's a workaround. I don't want the chime. At all. And I don't want to hold down keys when I start up the system. Those kinds of things are an extra hassle that should NOT be forced on the user, just because he wants a silent system.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but.... If you are dumb enough not to know the difference between PRODUCT NAME and INTERNAL CODENAME, then you really shouldn't be taking part in this discussion. The next version of Ubuntu is NOT called "Edgy Eft", and no PHB is going to make a case for "Edgy Eft". Edgy Eft is a CODENAME of the OS, the REAL name of the OS is "Ubuntu Linux 6.10". Is that REALLY so difficult to understand?
Have you ever seen PHB's make a case for "springboard"? No you haven't. But they HAVE talked about Windows XP Service Pack 2 (codenamed "Springobard").
So it's similar to Vista then? You need to mute the computer in order to not hear the chine, and then un-mute it again?
I don't know about rest of you guys, but I find the Mac startup-chime _annoying_. And the user should be able to disable with zero hassle, and in such way that it does not affect rest of the system!
Similar systems have been used in deep fat fryers for quite some time, so there's nothing innovative about it. Yes, Apple was the first to use it in a laptop, but the invention itself is not new.