Huh??? Are you talking about Symmetric Multithreading (Hyperthreading as it's known in Intel-land) or multicore CPU's? Intel-CPU's have the former, Mac doesn't have either.
If you can settle for a shorter range, something like this would be better. 2x120mm mortars, 26 rounds per minute, first 14 rounds hitting the target simultaneously. I have seen it in action, and it's very impressive.
Programs like Firefox, OpenOffice, Thunderbird, MySQL, and Gimp come to mind.
To my knowledge, FireFox, OpenOffice and Thunderbird are not GPL-software;). And Gimp on Windows sucks. It's awkward and clumsy.
Not for an established company but for a guy trying to start-up in his garage it is not a small chunk of change.
If he can't earn enough money from the sales of his software in order to pay for his tools, he's in the wrong business. Hell, guy starting-up a carpenter-business doesn't get free carpenter-tools, why should software-business be different?
I just do not feel that it is a good idea to make them the standard.
They are not the standard. No-one is forcing you to use their products. Just uset GTK+ then. Or feel free to fork Qt if you dislike TT. No-one is stopping you.
Imagaine the screams if Microsoft charged for the use of the Win32 API.
Since you are not forced to use Qt to develop Linux-apps, I fail to see the analogy. Just use some other toolkit, problem solved!
Is it possible to write for KDE without using QT?
Sure, GTK+-apps work just fine in KDE.
If not I think I will go for GTK instead.
Go right ahead, no-one is stopping you. I just find it rather strange that people push Free Software, and the complain when they can't write closed and proprietary software.
Also it was still a little bloated/slow on my pretty nice laptop (Centrino 1.6Ghz)
I run it on my 300Mhz P2-laptop and it's fast enough. I also tried it on my 1GHz P3 laptop, and it ran REALLY fast.
It uses massive amounts of ram even when idle
On my laptop, full-blown KDE-desktop with Kopete and Konsole uses about 50 megs of RAM (well, that's an estimate. Running CLI-only showed about 5 megs of RAM being used, adding Xfree, KDE and Konsole in to the mix, bumbed that figure to about 58megs. So I would say that KDE might be using under 50 megs of RAM, rest being used by Xfree Konsole and Kopete. I don't consider that to be that much)
I prefer Linux, I couldn't care less what happens with Windows. If I use KDE on Linux, why should I care about Windows? Seriously?
The QT commercial product is pretty expensive.
Few weeks salary for a programmer, it's not THAT much.
If Linux takes off on the desktop and KDE becomes the standard then every commerical developer will have to pay the Troll toll.
Yeah, Trolltech sucks! They shouldn't earn one dime from their hard work! Everyone else should have the right to profit from TT's work, without giving TT one damn cent! How dare those dirty Trolls try to earn from their own code! They should just work hard and give us more free stuff!
But what will happen to Qt when Trolltech is acquired, or liquidated. The GPL insures that vital source code, like Qt, is not tethered to the fortunes of its creator.
What will happen? Well, if Free version of Qt becomes unavailable, last free version of Qt becomes available under a BSD-style license. Also, there's nothing stopping anyone from forking a GPL'ed version of Qt.
And what do you suggest they should do? They can't force SCO out if SCO does not want out. Sure, they might offer to buy the shares back, but SCO might be unwilling to sell or they might ask for so much money that TT could not afford it and/or SCO would get even more money for their anti-Linux campaign.
Well, When I installed my Gentoo-box, there were nForce-drivers (forcedeth) right in the Kernel (2.6.3-mm1), so I'm not sure what more do you people want? He then complained how his vid-card was unstable, and I merely suggested that he could use some other drivers. I also mentioned that I haven't had any problems with the NV-drivers.
No-one is being forced to buy NV-hardware. Hell, to be honest, NV is under no obligation to provide Linux-drivers for their hardware AT ALL! Yet they choose to release kick-ass set of drivers, yet people complain.
Would I like it if the drivers were OS? Sure. But I'm not losing any sleep because of it. If you don't like the current situation, feel free to spend your money on hardware that does have OS-drivers available.
People should not accept this or we'll get into another situation like you have with NVidia.
Which is what? A ompany providing kick-ass drivers that give superior performance than that same hardware would give in Windows? What do you suggest using as an alternative to NVIDIA? Ati? HAH, good luck trying to get those drivers to work, open-source or not! And if you do get them to work, what kind of performance are you getting from them? And how about their AMD64-support? NVIDIA has AMD64-drivers available right now. Where are Ati's drivers??? Where are open-source AMD64-drivers for Ati?
Get a brand new box and you can't even do a net install on your Nforce chipset box because you need the nvnet driver which is a proprietary binary-only module
One word: Forcedeth.
Sadly, my Nvidia card is also the most unstable part of my Linux box and it crashes (hard locks up) at least every 2 weeks or so and I have to power cycle the box.
You know, you CAN use the open-source NV-drivers that ship with Xfree. Or you could use the standard VESA-drivers. So it's not like you are forced to use those drivers. I for one haven't had any problems with NV-drivers.
Have you investigated the case at all? 7 days in the hospital and numerous skin grafts.
You pay for stupidity. Let's see... "I got this hot cup of coffee. Now, where could I put it while I pour in some cream and sugar? Ooh ooh, I know! Between my legs of course! That way I can squeeze it tight while I remove the plastic lid that keeps the cup in form.... Ouch, this coffee is hot!"
Maybe McD should sell their coffee only to people who have some common sense? What next? "Hey, I poured this cup of coffee on my head and it burned me! See you in court!"
Kazaa is used to distribute copyrighted material, no-one is disputing that. But why should the creators of Kazaa be responsible for that? Kazaa can be used for legal purposes as well. Are car-makers liable if their cars are used for hit 'n run? Are knife-makers liable if their product is used to kill someone? IRC is also used to trade pirated material, should the police be raiding the home of Jarkko Oikarinen since he happened to invent it?
It's people like you trying to spread your GPL herpes everywhere that make the open source community look bad.
Only way you could get that "herpes" is by using GPL'ed code in your products. And since no-one is forcing you to use GPL'ed software, I fail to see the point of your whining. No-one is stopping you from writing your own alternative to some GPL'ed piece of code.
Have you considered that I am not writing software for profit? But I don't want my software infected with GPL herpes. Hell, I can't even release BSD-licensed software using GPL
Of course not. Since BSD-license allows the code to become unfree, whereas GPL is specifically aimed at stopping that. If you could re-license GPL'ed code under the BSD, it would mean that freeloaders could leech GPL'ed code. All they had to do is to re-license it under the BSD-license, and then leech that now BSD'ed code in to their own products, and not give anything in return.
I will not support software that calls itself "free" but does not truly give the user freedom
Then I guess you are not using the GNU-toolchain (you know, GCC and the like)? I mean, according to your definition, most of that software is not free either!
But that would be more or less like saying "Yeah. WinXP is 100% bullet-proof OS. There is NO WAY a cracker could compromise this machine! All I have to do in order to achieve that is to disconnect it from the network, put it in a locked safe and guard it 24x7!"
Like I said: WinXP is not safe. It's vulnerable to viruses and exploits. You can reduce the risk by using a firewall or virusscanner. But using those apps doesn't mean that XP itself is secure. The security is not due to the superior design of the OS or anything like that, it's because of the host of add-on software one must run.
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He has no insight. If you use GPL'ed software in-house in your own project, you do NOT have to release the source to the rest of the world. IIRC GPL requires that the users of the software must have access to the source, and since all the users would be employees of the company, it source would not spread outside the company.
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If Linux is to replace Windows everybody must come on board, including enterprises with internally developed software that don't want to release source code.
Serious question: are you really that ignorant or are you just trolling?
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Huh??? Are you talking about Symmetric Multithreading (Hyperthreading as it's known in Intel-land) or multicore CPU's? Intel-CPU's have the former, Mac doesn't have either.
Linux has supported it for a while already.
If you can settle for a shorter range, something like this would be better. 2x120mm mortars, 26 rounds per minute, first 14 rounds hitting the target simultaneously. I have seen it in action, and it's very impressive.
To my knowledge, FireFox, OpenOffice and Thunderbird are not GPL-software
If he can't earn enough money from the sales of his software in order to pay for his tools, he's in the wrong business. Hell, guy starting-up a carpenter-business doesn't get free carpenter-tools, why should software-business be different?
They are not the standard. No-one is forcing you to use their products. Just uset GTK+ then. Or feel free to fork Qt if you dislike TT. No-one is stopping you.
Since you are not forced to use Qt to develop Linux-apps, I fail to see the analogy. Just use some other toolkit, problem solved!
Sure, GTK+-apps work just fine in KDE.
Go right ahead, no-one is stopping you. I just find it rather strange that people push Free Software, and the complain when they can't write closed and proprietary software.
I run it on my 300Mhz P2-laptop and it's fast enough. I also tried it on my 1GHz P3 laptop, and it ran REALLY fast.
On my laptop, full-blown KDE-desktop with Kopete and Konsole uses about 50 megs of RAM (well, that's an estimate. Running CLI-only showed about 5 megs of RAM being used, adding Xfree, KDE and Konsole in to the mix, bumbed that figure to about 58megs. So I would say that KDE might be using under 50 megs of RAM, rest being used by Xfree Konsole and Kopete. I don't consider that to be that much)
I prefer Linux, I couldn't care less what happens with Windows. If I use KDE on Linux, why should I care about Windows? Seriously?
Few weeks salary for a programmer, it's not THAT much.
Yeah, Trolltech sucks! They shouldn't earn one dime from their hard work! Everyone else should have the right to profit from TT's work, without giving TT one damn cent! How dare those dirty Trolls try to earn from their own code! They should just work hard and give us more free stuff!
I run KDE3.2 on my old laptop. It has slow HD, slow vid-card, 300MHz P2 and 320MB of RAM. It runs pretty well on it, it's not slow at all.
What will happen? Well, if Free version of Qt becomes unavailable, last free version of Qt becomes available under a BSD-style license. Also, there's nothing stopping anyone from forking a GPL'ed version of Qt.
And what do you suggest they should do? They can't force SCO out if SCO does not want out. Sure, they might offer to buy the shares back, but SCO might be unwilling to sell or they might ask for so much money that TT could not afford it and/or SCO would get even more money for their anti-Linux campaign.
How long did it take for the first colonists to reach North-America or Australia from Europe? How much money was spent on building those colonies?
Well, When I installed my Gentoo-box, there were nForce-drivers (forcedeth) right in the Kernel (2.6.3-mm1), so I'm not sure what more do you people want? He then complained how his vid-card was unstable, and I merely suggested that he could use some other drivers. I also mentioned that I haven't had any problems with the NV-drivers.
No-one is being forced to buy NV-hardware. Hell, to be honest, NV is under no obligation to provide Linux-drivers for their hardware AT ALL! Yet they choose to release kick-ass set of drivers, yet people complain.
Would I like it if the drivers were OS? Sure. But I'm not losing any sleep because of it. If you don't like the current situation, feel free to spend your money on hardware that does have OS-drivers available.
He was talking about "NVIDIA card". Since when do you call Motherboard "a card"? He was obviously talking about his vid-card
We are talking about vid-cards for crying out loud!
100FPS on Quake2 is pretty bad IMO. It's an old game. Hell, people get over 300FPS on Quake 3 these days!
glxgears is next to useless. What about Unreal Tournament? Wolfenstein? Quake3?
Which is what? A ompany providing kick-ass drivers that give superior performance than that same hardware would give in Windows? What do you suggest using as an alternative to NVIDIA? Ati? HAH, good luck trying to get those drivers to work, open-source or not! And if you do get them to work, what kind of performance are you getting from them? And how about their AMD64-support? NVIDIA has AMD64-drivers available right now. Where are Ati's drivers??? Where are open-source AMD64-drivers for Ati?
One word: Forcedeth.
You know, you CAN use the open-source NV-drivers that ship with Xfree. Or you could use the standard VESA-drivers. So it's not like you are forced to use those drivers. I for one haven't had any problems with NV-drivers.
Longhorn will use Direct3D, not OpenGL.
G5 does not have L3-cache. And besides, it was just a typo, no need to cream your pants because of it.
You pay for stupidity. Let's see... "I got this hot cup of coffee. Now, where could I put it while I pour in some cream and sugar? Ooh ooh, I know! Between my legs of course! That way I can squeeze it tight while I remove the plastic lid that keeps the cup in form.... Ouch, this coffee is hot!"
Maybe McD should sell their coffee only to people who have some common sense? What next? "Hey, I poured this cup of coffee on my head and it burned me! See you in court!"
...that the original CD is copy-protected!
Kazaa is used to distribute copyrighted material, no-one is disputing that. But why should the creators of Kazaa be responsible for that? Kazaa can be used for legal purposes as well. Are car-makers liable if their cars are used for hit 'n run? Are knife-makers liable if their product is used to kill someone? IRC is also used to trade pirated material, should the police be raiding the home of Jarkko Oikarinen since he happened to invent it?
Only way you could get that "herpes" is by using GPL'ed code in your products. And since no-one is forcing you to use GPL'ed software, I fail to see the point of your whining. No-one is stopping you from writing your own alternative to some GPL'ed piece of code.
Of course not. Since BSD-license allows the code to become unfree, whereas GPL is specifically aimed at stopping that. If you could re-license GPL'ed code under the BSD, it would mean that freeloaders could leech GPL'ed code. All they had to do is to re-license it under the BSD-license, and then leech that now BSD'ed code in to their own products, and not give anything in return.
Then I guess you are not using the GNU-toolchain (you know, GCC and the like)? I mean, according to your definition, most of that software is not free either!
But that would be more or less like saying "Yeah. WinXP is 100% bullet-proof OS. There is NO WAY a cracker could compromise this machine! All I have to do in order to achieve that is to disconnect it from the network, put it in a locked safe and guard it 24x7!"
Like I said: WinXP is not safe. It's vulnerable to viruses and exploits. You can reduce the risk by using a firewall or virusscanner. But using those apps doesn't mean that XP itself is secure. The security is not due to the superior design of the OS or anything like that, it's because of the host of add-on software one must run.
He has no insight. If you use GPL'ed software in-house in your own project, you do NOT have to release the source to the rest of the world. IIRC GPL requires that the users of the software must have access to the source, and since all the users would be employees of the company, it source would not spread outside the company.
Serious question: are you really that ignorant or are you just trolling?