are you talking about installing the OS or installing the apps? If you are talking about apps, what is so difficult in typing "emerge app name here"? If you are talking about the OS, how often do you REALLY need to install it? Installation of Gentoo is not hard. Long, yes (due to compiling, but that can be avoided). Hard, no. It's a well documented process.
I personally have a hard time picturing my mom installing and maintaining Linux on her home computer.
Are you saying that you mom is capable of installing Windows? For some reason, I doubt it. I'm the resident computer-geek of the family. My girlfriends family lives nearby and they use Windows. How does the "maintaining" that system work?
- They need to (re)install the OS: they call me - They need to install firewall/antivirus: they call me - They need to install some app: they call me
they can use the system just fine. Anything beyond that (configuring, installation etc. etc.) is completely beyond them. I have urged them to install Linux on it, it would save alot of hassle. They couldn't really screw the system up, and I could admin it remotely.
No, it says somewhere that everything should be Free Software, including the SuSE's installer, which isn't.
Yast is under a VERY liberal lisence. It's just not GPL. Personally I don't see it as a problem
However, from a business customer standpoint, RedHat is now seat licenced just like SuSE.
SUSE does not have per-set license (apart from their products that include Crossover Plugin which is proprietary and has per-set lisence, therefore SUSE has to charge for the product that ships with it). You are free to make copies of your SUSE-CD's and install them on as many machines as you wish.
Yes, the *new* cards. What about older cards? Lots and lots and lots of people are still using old cards.
Then those users keep on using the "old" X, instead of this "new and improved" version. No-one is forcing them to use this new system, they can go on using the old system as long as they wish. But since there are lots and lots of people who could and would use this new feature, then why not do it? Because there are still some old geezers with vid-cards that have 4MB of RAM in 'em?
Yes you were, you just masked it as a "question". You knew the answer to your question before you even asked it. You just saw an opportunity to do some whining.
It wouldn't be "racist" since finns are not really a separate race. And I can see why Communicator was error-prone. After all, it was (and is) ALOT more complicated device than your regural phone is! More complicated = more things that could malfunction.
I know people who have had 8210's, and I haven't seen any problems with that phone. And it was made elsewhere besides Finland to my knowledge.
Uh, no. There was no trade-barrier protecting Nokia back then (and there isn't one today). Most of the Nokia-phones that are sold here (except for some hi-end model) are made in Germany or Hungary. Hi-end models (such as the Communicator) are still made in Finland.
Well, Nokia does have about 80% market-share here, but I dunno that does nationalism have anything to do with it. As to prices. They are more or less the same here. We migth get some phones few days earlier than some other countries do, but that's it.
Well, it was a few years ago when phones stored at max 100 phone numbers.
With GSM-phones you could store numbers on the phone and on the SIM-card, and that should give plenty of space of numbers.
Otherwise, one is left entering data by phone buttons - which I absolutely hate.
So, instead of punching in the phone-number & name in the phone (which took about 2 minutes, tops) you whip out your laptop, switch it on, start your email-client (or whatever you used to store phonenumbers), type in the phonenumber, whip out your REX, insert it in the laptop and sync it with your laptop?
Remember the wireless telephone boom only started when they began giving away phones with subscriptions.
Here (Finland) they NEVER gave away phones with subscriprions (in fact, tying the device with the service is illegal. You buy the service and the phone separately), and the usage of mobile-phones spread like wildfire.
Yes I know. Communism has been attempted several times and every time the end result is a monumental failure and an oppressive dictatorship. Like I said, theory of communism is nice, but in real-life, it fails. That is why I consider communism to be a failure.
Communism is based on the premise that everything is owned by a small elite (government) through force, rather than distributed among the population through voluntary trade.
Not quite. The theory is based on premise that means of production are owned by the workers. In reality, that has been perverted in to state-monopoly, where a small elite owns the means of production. They justified that by saying that the elite (the party) represents the workers, therefore the elite can control the means of production.
The theory of communism is nice, but the reality of communism sucks.
That's true. FreeBSD is not for people who want to play games. These people need to use a PlayStation, GameCube, or Xbox.
FWIW: Consoles suck for some type of games.
That's untrue. There were more shipments of FreeBSD last year than any other UNIX operating system. That's because Mac OS X is, for all intents and purposes, FreeBSD.
I bet that if you asked Mac OS X user "What OS are you running there?", all of them would say "It's Mac OS X" and not "It's FreeBSD". Roots of OS X might be FreeBSD, but that does not make it FreeBSD IMO.
If you care about reality so much then maybe you would like to know that in "reality" Communism has never been tried.
I bet past leaders of Soviet Union or current leaders of Cuba, North Korea and China would disagree with you. If you mean that "the crackpot theory found in some books has never been a reality", then yes, I would agree with you. It has been attempted several times. Each ending in monumental failure.
Your argument is the same old same old. "Communism is not a failure since past attempts at communism were not REALLY communism". Maybe they didn't fulfill all the requirements of the theory, but they did show us what we will get if we attempt communism. Communisms track-record is 100% failure. And still some people think that communism doesn't suck.
Well, if it makes you any happier, I'm not from USA, I'm from Finland. And yes, I consider capitalism to be a resounding success. Yes, there are some bad qualities to it (no system is perfect), butt in the end, people themself are free to fix the bad things in capitalism. And they are doing just that. For example, they pump billions in to different charities.
1. The iPod has a remote control feature. I don't use it. The iPod itself is smaller than a lot of my remotes.
iPod has a remote with LCD as a standard feature? Any links?
2. FM Radio would have been a spiffy feature 30 years ago when radio didn't suck. There are very few markets left that have stations worth listening to.
I know of plenty of radio-stations that are worth listening. Seriosuly, you are just making excuses for iPod lack of features.
3. Also available for iPod, although it's an external device.
So it makes the plauer even more expensive not to mention bigger and bulkier? Thanks, but I think I'll pass.
the piss-poor interface
How do you know it's "piss-poor"? I haven't really seen any of the reviewers complains aboit it. Or do you just assume that it MUST have a poor UI?
the horrible and fragile-looking game-console style thumbstick controller jutting out of the front
Subjective. I think the joystick is pretty nifty.
total lack of either AAC or OGG support (they promise it as a future "firmware upgrade,")
Does iPod support Ogg?
it is an inferior solution that costs more.
How can it be inferior if it has all the features iPod has and more? And the price is more or less the same.
I never said there was anything wrong with the iRiver UI. However, the iPod UI is better.
How do you know? Like I said, iriver has an excellent UI. To quite one review: "The interface is exemplary and the transfers are drag and drop. If you need help with it, then you really need help."
Your line of thinking seems to be "iPod is made by Apple so it MUST have superior UI!". And even if iPod has marginally better UI, would it make up the lack of features? I don't think so.
Can't handle, even for a brief moment, that someone would prefer the emotional/design elements of an object than the purely rational features/price equation.
Well, no. People keep on saying "iPod is the best mp3-player in the world!". I merely ask that how can it be "best" if there are players with far superior feature-sets? "It has a better UI!" is not valid, since the competitor in question has comparable UI and UI's are subjective by nature.
Seriously, it seems to me that some people think iPod is the best simply because it's made by Apple. Regardless of the fact that there are players out there with superior features.
Normally I don't reply to AC's, but I decided to make an exception in your case.
So why not get iRiver iHP-100-series instead? It has all the benefits of an iPod (well, it uses USB2.0 instead of FireWire), and it has several features not found on the iPod:
1. Remote-control with LCD 2. Built-in FM radio 3. Built-in microphone/dictaphone 4. Digital/Optical in/out 5. Built-in real-time mp3-encoding
So why get an iPod when superior alternatives are already available?
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are you talking about installing the OS or installing the apps? If you are talking about apps, what is so difficult in typing "emerge app name here"? If you are talking about the OS, how often do you REALLY need to install it? Installation of Gentoo is not hard. Long, yes (due to compiling, but that can be avoided). Hard, no. It's a well documented process.
Are you saying that you mom is capable of installing Windows? For some reason, I doubt it. I'm the resident computer-geek of the family. My girlfriends family lives nearby and they use Windows. How does the "maintaining" that system work?
- They need to (re)install the OS: they call me
- They need to install firewall/antivirus: they call me
- They need to install some app: they call me
they can use the system just fine. Anything beyond that (configuring, installation etc. etc.) is completely beyond them. I have urged them to install Linux on it, it would save alot of hassle. They couldn't really screw the system up, and I could admin it remotely.
Yast is under a VERY liberal lisence. It's just not GPL. Personally I don't see it as a problem
SUSE does not have per-set license (apart from their products that include Crossover Plugin which is proprietary and has per-set lisence, therefore SUSE has to charge for the product that ships with it). You are free to make copies of your SUSE-CD's and install them on as many machines as you wish.
You can install it through FTP just fine (and for free), so what's the problem? Does it say somewhere that they must provide ISO's?
Then those users keep on using the "old" X, instead of this "new and improved" version. No-one is forcing them to use this new system, they can go on using the old system as long as they wish. But since there are lots and lots of people who could and would use this new feature, then why not do it? Because there are still some old geezers with vid-cards that have 4MB of RAM in 'em?
How is this different from backing store?
SuSE is very much relevant in Europe.
Yes you were, you just masked it as a "question". You knew the answer to your question before you even asked it. You just saw an opportunity to do some whining.
It wouldn't be "racist" since finns are not really a separate race. And I can see why Communicator was error-prone. After all, it was (and is) ALOT more complicated device than your regural phone is! More complicated = more things that could malfunction.
I know people who have had 8210's, and I haven't seen any problems with that phone. And it was made elsewhere besides Finland to my knowledge.
Uh, no. There was no trade-barrier protecting Nokia back then (and there isn't one today). Most of the Nokia-phones that are sold here (except for some hi-end model) are made in Germany or Hungary. Hi-end models (such as the Communicator) are still made in Finland.
Well, Nokia does have about 80% market-share here, but I dunno that does nationalism have anything to do with it. As to prices. They are more or less the same here. We migth get some phones few days earlier than some other countries do, but that's it.
With GSM-phones you could store numbers on the phone and on the SIM-card, and that should give plenty of space of numbers.
So, instead of punching in the phone-number & name in the phone (which took about 2 minutes, tops) you whip out your laptop, switch it on, start your email-client (or whatever you used to store phonenumbers), type in the phonenumber, whip out your REX, insert it in the laptop and sync it with your laptop?
Here (Finland) they NEVER gave away phones with subscriprions (in fact, tying the device with the service is illegal. You buy the service and the phone separately), and the usage of mobile-phones spread like wildfire.
Why carry an REX around when mobile-phone would serve the same function (and alot more)?
Yes I know. Communism has been attempted several times and every time the end result is a monumental failure and an oppressive dictatorship. Like I said, theory of communism is nice, but in real-life, it fails. That is why I consider communism to be a failure.
Not quite. The theory is based on premise that means of production are owned by the workers. In reality, that has been perverted in to state-monopoly, where a small elite owns the means of production. They justified that by saying that the elite (the party) represents the workers, therefore the elite can control the means of production.
The theory of communism is nice, but the reality of communism sucks.
FWIW: Consoles suck for some type of games.
I bet that if you asked Mac OS X user "What OS are you running there?", all of them would say "It's Mac OS X" and not "It's FreeBSD". Roots of OS X might be FreeBSD, but that does not make it FreeBSD IMO.
I bet past leaders of Soviet Union or current leaders of Cuba, North Korea and China would disagree with you. If you mean that "the crackpot theory found in some books has never been a reality", then yes, I would agree with you. It has been attempted several times. Each ending in monumental failure.
Your argument is the same old same old. "Communism is not a failure since past attempts at communism were not REALLY communism". Maybe they didn't fulfill all the requirements of the theory, but they did show us what we will get if we attempt communism. Communisms track-record is 100% failure. And still some people think that communism doesn't suck.
Well, if it makes you any happier, I'm not from USA, I'm from Finland. And yes, I consider capitalism to be a resounding success. Yes, there are some bad qualities to it (no system is perfect), butt in the end, people themself are free to fix the bad things in capitalism. And they are doing just that. For example, they pump billions in to different charities.
iPod has a remote with LCD as a standard feature? Any links?
I know of plenty of radio-stations that are worth listening. Seriosuly, you are just making excuses for iPod lack of features.
So it makes the plauer even more expensive not to mention bigger and bulkier? Thanks, but I think I'll pass.
How do you know it's "piss-poor"? I haven't really seen any of the reviewers complains aboit it. Or do you just assume that it MUST have a poor UI?
Subjective. I think the joystick is pretty nifty.
Does iPod support Ogg?
How can it be inferior if it has all the features iPod has and more? And the price is more or less the same.
How do you know? Like I said, iriver has an excellent UI. To quite one review: "The interface is exemplary and the transfers are drag and drop. If you need help with it, then you really need help."
Your line of thinking seems to be "iPod is made by Apple so it MUST have superior UI!". And even if iPod has marginally better UI, would it make up the lack of features? I don't think so.
Well, no. People keep on saying "iPod is the best mp3-player in the world!". I merely ask that how can it be "best" if there are players with far superior feature-sets? "It has a better UI!" is not valid, since the competitor in question has comparable UI and UI's are subjective by nature.
Seriously, it seems to me that some people think iPod is the best simply because it's made by Apple. Regardless of the fact that there are players out there with superior features.
Normally I don't reply to AC's, but I decided to make an exception in your case.
there's nothing wrong with iRiver's UI. So you get alot less functionality for same amount of money.
I haven't seen any of the reviewers complain about the interface. In fact, quite few of them has said that the UI is excellent.
So it seems that there are portable players out there with far better feature-set than the precious iPod has.
So why not get iRiver iHP-100-series instead? It has all the benefits of an iPod (well, it uses USB2.0 instead of FireWire), and it has several features not found on the iPod:
1. Remote-control with LCD
2. Built-in FM radio
3. Built-in microphone/dictaphone
4. Digital/Optical in/out
5. Built-in real-time mp3-encoding
So why get an iPod when superior alternatives are already available?