I'm only 9 pages into the comic but the fact that every tab and plugin will run as a separate process seems significant to me and something more than just a rebranding.
He says 4 grand in the blog - and over at the zero g site it says 5200 when taxes are included, so it looks like prices have been bumped up. I'm still going to start saving up for it though.
We are not communicating on at least a couple levels. I promise I'm not completely stupid - just dense sometimes.
I know not everyone agrees on the web. But go somewhere like little green footballs or huffpo and tell me that there is a lot of discussion going on that encompasses a wide range of view points. Read reddit or digg for a few weeks - there is a solid party line and anything that crosses it gets buried, fast. I don't know any real life places like that. None.
I go to church. Sure - there are certain things we hold in common, but politics is one place where there a very wide array of positions and they are all respected. There are places like that on-line, there are places that are not like that. People who belong to the places that don't allow true discussion and the representation of lots of ideas are full of people who think 'everyone' thinks like them. And once again, I don't know real world places like that.
As far as the money - no I'm not implying any kind of conspiracy. I'm saying that the relationship of donors to registered voters was most likely not 1:1. Probably lots of people gave who couldn't vote because of age, location, etc. That's all. I'm just saying raising money over the internet doesn't translate to votes.
Literally. There are political sites with literally thousands of active users that heavily enforce an environment that is extremely hostile to any type of dissension or opposing view points. Start submitting articles that are pro-bush or anti-obama at digg or reddit. Go to the Jawa report and have a nice discussion on why we shouldn't have gone into Iraq or socialized medicine. Now tell me a place in real life where you can find that many people that rabidly committed to an ideology and unwilling to let anyone else speak. Other than the two conventions that will take place this year for each party.
You can't go to a real space meeting with lots of people on any regular basis where you will hear everyone agree with you like you can on-line. You especially can't do so where people are drawn from such a large area.
The money - is once again, a good example of what I'm talking about. Anyone - from anywhere could donate on-line. So it builds this false sense that voters in America are generating all these funds. But I doubt that was the case.
The effect I'm talking about doesn't happen, in my experience, in real life on any sort of regular basis. I can right now log into any number of web sites where literally thousands of people will all argue the same point of view and tell me any other view is idiotic. I can't think of anywhere I can go in the state I live in, let alone the country and get that same environment.
The people in the video all arranged their meet-up on-line. People who were spending considerable time on-line gained the impression that there was this huge support base for Paul. They thought tons of people knew who he was and were behind him. They were isolated from the fact that in reality- not many people were even aware of what they were doing. They also assumed that 'most people' agreed with them.
I run into this all the time. I remember when Bush ran against Kerry. I had a friend who spent the majority of his time on-line. I told him, "Yeah I have friends who think it will be the end of the world if this election goes the wrong way." He nodded and said, "Yeah me too." But when I told him those friends wanted Bush to win he was shocked. He didn't think anyone was going to vote for Bush. He didn't 'know' a single Bush supporter. (This by the way feeds the whole conspiracy thing, because the framework he had didn't explain what happened. So fraud was much more believable then.)
The internet is a great tool and I love it, but I think it is really easy to allow it to give one a false impression of what is going on with regards to the rest of the country.
So when I say that is a perfect example - I mean that while on-line there were groups of hard-core supporters encouraging one another, it did not translate into anything nearly as significant in real life.
I'm not saying small groups can't change thing. I'm saying that relatively small groups can feel like they are large groups on-line. They can give members false impressions of relative size and influence.
The more people reach a point where they can deal with humans on an individual basis - rather than having to lump others into comfy little groups that allow them to heap scorn and derision on people they don't even know, the better the world is in general. But that's just my opinion. Feel free to keep judging me - though we've never met and you don't know a thing about me - based purely on a single word label that can mean a vast number of things.
All of this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. He packed out a building that holds 1500 in Denver. Yes - it must have been rampant, country wide fraud. My favorite quote from the video "If I were old enough, I would vote for Ron Paul for president."
Yep - all of them. Every person in the country who labels themselves Christian is a simplistic idiot that can't understand even the most basic of things. Thank God I have an atheist friend to log into slashdot for me, interpret my grunt-like muttering and type up responses on my behalf. Gotta go back to putting down the women and colored folk now.
It would be really interesting to know how many of them are registered voters that actually vote. It would also be helpful to see where those 40% are. For the presidential election for example, it would be helpful to know what percentage they make state by state.
I've never seen any proof that the party holding control of the executive branch has any impact on the economy.
You make the mistake of assuming that our current economic situation would be different had a democrat been in office. That somehow lenders wouldn't have been making bad loans to people who couldn't afford them. That somehow oil prices would be much lower.
The 'tone' in Washington, as far as I can tell - never changes. It's the same the last 8 years as the 8 years prior.
It tickles me that you think McCain and Obama are fundamentally different. Maybe you thought Democrats taking over congress meant something too. They said it would, when they won they said things would change. Guess what?
And if you want to get hung up on policy in regards to technology, I have one name for you - Biden. Yeah, that's just awesome news for all the nerds out there.
I don't care because there are two candidates who stand for exactly the same things in 2 slightly different packages. You care because you've invested yourself in the propaganda of 1 of the 2 sides. I have lots of friends who've done the same for the other side and think the world will end if Obama gets elected. I'm glad they spend most of their time burning all their energy up at the partisan sites like huffpo, lgf, etc. That way I don't have to hear it.
If you are basing your decision to live here on who is president, you are using the wrong criteria. Every election cycle, in attempt to garner votes, both parties act like if they don't win it will be the end of everything good and right. Yet, having lived here my whole life, as I look back over the good and bad times - I can't think of a single one where the president had any major impact on whether or not they were good or bad.
Local government and policies where you want to live will have much more to do with what your life is like. Presidents come and go - I guess you could prepare to pack up and go 4 years. I've got friends who threaten to move to Canada every 4 years. I guess you could join in with them. The fact that none of them actually ever move does give away (in my mind) the fact that it doesn't matter so much who gets elected.
That does make sense - but what are the raw numbers? It can't be close. Most people in the US are still on dial up. That just blows my mind- because all day I interact with other people like me, and often I forget that most of the rest of the people around me don't live in my world.
Then I have a discussion with someone who isn't in IT and doesn't spend a lot of time on-line and it's almost like talking to someone from another country. And the bottom line is that there are a lot more of them than there are of us.
I don't care who wins the election. Just to get that out of the way.
I think that people who spend a lot of time on the internet build up a false sense of community size and influence. If one were spending a lot of time on Digg last year, they were probably surprised by how poorly Ron Paul did.
What percentage of Americans are regularly active on the internet? What percentage watch hours of t.v. a day?
I'm all for people getting out and doing something they believe in but the fact that this is compared to something involving Nader illustrates my point perfectly. It is a small group of people taking fringe actions what will not increase voting power by orders of magnitude.
I've seen him slammed for the way he does his art. All I know in that regard is I couldn't draw all that stuff.
He's been ripped on for imitating Penny Arcade. I've looked at the strips in question. They are similar. I've also seen P.A. put out artwork that involved elements directly copied from others (They apologized about it, said it was a mistake.) and most recent Scott Kurtz had to redraw a strip because he used a character that was an almost exact copy of one created by someone else. He apologized and said he developed the idea completely on his own. I believe him, why couldn't Buckley have done the same in the past?
When animated ctrl-alt-del came out for a fee - Kurtz and the PA guys ripped him a new one. Repeatedly. When Kurtz came out with an animated feature, for a fee, nobody said a word that I saw - in the same places where criticism of Buckley was so evident.
And then there are the people who always say he isn't funny. Funny is subjective. I think his strip is entertaining. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it isn't. I just described just about every comic strip I have ever read on-line or off.
Tim Buckley does his own game/con type thing called Digital Overload - so I don't know how he would approach pax - not to mention I really doubt Gabe and Tycho would ask him - based on things they've said about him.
You are right that he is 'infamous' in some circles. This mystifies me a bit. I've looked at all the stuff he gets criticized for and wonder why it is such a big deal. Then, the people who are the most vocal about it go and do the exact same things and the silence is deafening. He seems to take a lot of heat for no good reason beyond certain high-profile people don't like him.
I grew up in Arizona, and my dad took us to visit Arconsanti when I was in grade school. It was an interesting afternoon. It was pretty obvious then (late 70s) that it was not going anywhere. I'm really surprised it's still there. I always point at it when we go by on our way back to Phoenix from Strawberry. Should probably take my kids while I can.
This kind of thing is always much, much easier to think up, draw, plan, etc. than to actually build and use.
Last week? Does that mean earlier this week, or the week before the week I'm in? At what point in whatever week was last week? If I did an install/update after a certain date am I covered?
It would be nice if they weren't so vague about the time frame. Maybe it is to encourage people to check and not assume they will not have problems, but in a situation like this, the more accurate a picture I have of what is going on, the better I feel.
I wouldn't have a problem with my arrest for something being public, as long as it was just as public if I were found innocent.
A relative of mine built a storage shed in his back yard. A neighbor didn't like it and called the city. An inspector came out while he wasn't home, took incorrect measurements, and left a large, neon colored notice on the front of his house saying that he was in violation of city ordinances. He had them come out, showed them that they were wrong, and they said, "oh - sorry". He said, "Well, go tell all my neighbors." Of course they didn't.
A homeless man in Phoenix was picked up on suspicion of raping and killing a child a while back. They figured out pretty quickly that he didn't have anything to do with the child, but he did have other legal issues so he was kept in jail. That night it made the local news that he had been picked up in connection with the child's murder. He was beaten so badly he lost his spleen.
People who are accused of something are not necessarily guilty and I can see why they may not want it broadcast all over the world that they have been accused, when it is not easy to also broadcast their innocence later.
You can read about the guy who lost his spleen in this new times article that was written a bit after it all happened. It was all I could find, but this happened 8 years ago or so.
The headline for this ars article focuses on the ps3 gaining ground, but what is amazing is how dominant nintendo has become. It just doesn't make sense for any developer to ignore what is going on and I think we are going to see some phenomenal developments for the wii in every aspect.
I'd consider bringing clarity where there was confusion to be a change. We could play these games all day. I'm glad I'm not a lawyer - it would drive me nuts picking apart every little word.
But back on topic - there are people that have made decisions based on the lack of clarity in this very situation as well as others. Now that it is less foggy, they make different decisions now. Once again, in my book, change.
I'm just glad it fell this way. I think it could have turned out differently - because to be honest I don't think the artistic license was worded all that well. But we learn as we go I guess.
I'm not trying to say the license is stronger than copyright law. I was trying to say that by making the license more than a contract they've made copyright law stronger, broader - however it would be best put. In fact, if I understand you correctly, I was trying to say what you just said.
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You got a good deal on that keyboard. I can't find one on-line for less than $80 right now.
Oh - Doctors will definitely be in on it- maybe not medical doctors so much, but lots of other kinds of doctors.
I'm only 9 pages into the comic but the fact that every tab and plugin will run as a separate process seems significant to me and something more than just a rebranding.
He says 4 grand in the blog - and over at the zero g site it says 5200 when taxes are included, so it looks like prices have been bumped up. I'm still going to start saving up for it though.
We are not communicating on at least a couple levels. I promise I'm not completely stupid - just dense sometimes.
I know not everyone agrees on the web. But go somewhere like little green footballs or huffpo and tell me that there is a lot of discussion going on that encompasses a wide range of view points. Read reddit or digg for a few weeks - there is a solid party line and anything that crosses it gets buried, fast. I don't know any real life places like that. None.
I go to church. Sure - there are certain things we hold in common, but politics is one place where there a very wide array of positions and they are all respected. There are places like that on-line, there are places that are not like that. People who belong to the places that don't allow true discussion and the representation of lots of ideas are full of people who think 'everyone' thinks like them. And once again, I don't know real world places like that.
As far as the money - no I'm not implying any kind of conspiracy. I'm saying that the relationship of donors to registered voters was most likely not 1:1. Probably lots of people gave who couldn't vote because of age, location, etc. That's all. I'm just saying raising money over the internet doesn't translate to votes.
Literally. There are political sites with literally thousands of active users that heavily enforce an environment that is extremely hostile to any type of dissension or opposing view points. Start submitting articles that are pro-bush or anti-obama at digg or reddit. Go to the Jawa report and have a nice discussion on why we shouldn't have gone into Iraq or socialized medicine. Now tell me a place in real life where you can find that many people that rabidly committed to an ideology and unwilling to let anyone else speak. Other than the two conventions that will take place this year for each party.
You can't go to a real space meeting with lots of people on any regular basis where you will hear everyone agree with you like you can on-line. You especially can't do so where people are drawn from such a large area.
The money - is once again, a good example of what I'm talking about. Anyone - from anywhere could donate on-line. So it builds this false sense that voters in America are generating all these funds. But I doubt that was the case.
The effect I'm talking about doesn't happen, in my experience, in real life on any sort of regular basis. I can right now log into any number of web sites where literally thousands of people will all argue the same point of view and tell me any other view is idiotic. I can't think of anywhere I can go in the state I live in, let alone the country and get that same environment.
The people in the video all arranged their meet-up on-line. People who were spending considerable time on-line gained the impression that there was this huge support base for Paul. They thought tons of people knew who he was and were behind him. They were isolated from the fact that in reality- not many people were even aware of what they were doing. They also assumed that 'most people' agreed with them.
I run into this all the time. I remember when Bush ran against Kerry. I had a friend who spent the majority of his time on-line. I told him, "Yeah I have friends who think it will be the end of the world if this election goes the wrong way." He nodded and said, "Yeah me too." But when I told him those friends wanted Bush to win he was shocked. He didn't think anyone was going to vote for Bush. He didn't 'know' a single Bush supporter. (This by the way feeds the whole conspiracy thing, because the framework he had didn't explain what happened. So fraud was much more believable then.)
The internet is a great tool and I love it, but I think it is really easy to allow it to give one a false impression of what is going on with regards to the rest of the country.
So when I say that is a perfect example - I mean that while on-line there were groups of hard-core supporters encouraging one another, it did not translate into anything nearly as significant in real life.
I'm not saying small groups can't change thing. I'm saying that relatively small groups can feel like they are large groups on-line. They can give members false impressions of relative size and influence.
The more people reach a point where they can deal with humans on an individual basis - rather than having to lump others into comfy little groups that allow them to heap scorn and derision on people they don't even know, the better the world is in general. But that's just my opinion. Feel free to keep judging me - though we've never met and you don't know a thing about me - based purely on a single word label that can mean a vast number of things.
yeah - I don't. And I'm cool with those of you who do. Knock yourselves out - I'm investing my time and energies elsewhere.
All of this is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. He packed out a building that holds 1500 in Denver. Yes - it must have been rampant, country wide fraud. My favorite quote from the video "If I were old enough, I would vote for Ron Paul for president."
Yep - all of them. Every person in the country who labels themselves Christian is a simplistic idiot that can't understand even the most basic of things. Thank God I have an atheist friend to log into slashdot for me, interpret my grunt-like muttering and type up responses on my behalf. Gotta go back to putting down the women and colored folk now.
It would be really interesting to know how many of them are registered voters that actually vote. It would also be helpful to see where those 40% are. For the presidential election for example, it would be helpful to know what percentage they make state by state.
I've never seen any proof that the party holding control of the executive branch has any impact on the economy.
You make the mistake of assuming that our current economic situation would be different had a democrat been in office. That somehow lenders wouldn't have been making bad loans to people who couldn't afford them. That somehow oil prices would be much lower.
The 'tone' in Washington, as far as I can tell - never changes. It's the same the last 8 years as the 8 years prior.
It tickles me that you think McCain and Obama are fundamentally different. Maybe you thought Democrats taking over congress meant something too. They said it would, when they won they said things would change. Guess what?
And if you want to get hung up on policy in regards to technology, I have one name for you - Biden. Yeah, that's just awesome news for all the nerds out there.
I don't care because there are two candidates who stand for exactly the same things in 2 slightly different packages. You care because you've invested yourself in the propaganda of 1 of the 2 sides. I have lots of friends who've done the same for the other side and think the world will end if Obama gets elected. I'm glad they spend most of their time burning all their energy up at the partisan sites like huffpo, lgf, etc. That way I don't have to hear it.
If you are basing your decision to live here on who is president, you are using the wrong criteria. Every election cycle, in attempt to garner votes, both parties act like if they don't win it will be the end of everything good and right. Yet, having lived here my whole life, as I look back over the good and bad times - I can't think of a single one where the president had any major impact on whether or not they were good or bad.
Local government and policies where you want to live will have much more to do with what your life is like. Presidents come and go - I guess you could prepare to pack up and go 4 years. I've got friends who threaten to move to Canada every 4 years. I guess you could join in with them. The fact that none of them actually ever move does give away (in my mind) the fact that it doesn't matter so much who gets elected.
That does make sense - but what are the raw numbers? It can't be close. Most people in the US are still on dial up. That just blows my mind- because all day I interact with other people like me, and often I forget that most of the rest of the people around me don't live in my world.
Then I have a discussion with someone who isn't in IT and doesn't spend a lot of time on-line and it's almost like talking to someone from another country. And the bottom line is that there are a lot more of them than there are of us.
I don't care who wins the election. Just to get that out of the way.
I think that people who spend a lot of time on the internet build up a false sense of community size and influence. If one were spending a lot of time on Digg last year, they were probably surprised by how poorly Ron Paul did.
What percentage of Americans are regularly active on the internet? What percentage watch hours of t.v. a day?
I'm all for people getting out and doing something they believe in but the fact that this is compared to something involving Nader illustrates my point perfectly. It is a small group of people taking fringe actions what will not increase voting power by orders of magnitude.
I've seen him slammed for the way he does his art. All I know in that regard is I couldn't draw all that stuff.
He's been ripped on for imitating Penny Arcade. I've looked at the strips in question. They are similar. I've also seen P.A. put out artwork that involved elements directly copied from others (They apologized about it, said it was a mistake.) and most recent Scott Kurtz had to redraw a strip because he used a character that was an almost exact copy of one created by someone else. He apologized and said he developed the idea completely on his own. I believe him, why couldn't Buckley have done the same in the past?
When animated ctrl-alt-del came out for a fee - Kurtz and the PA guys ripped him a new one. Repeatedly. When Kurtz came out with an animated feature, for a fee, nobody said a word that I saw - in the same places where criticism of Buckley was so evident.
And then there are the people who always say he isn't funny. Funny is subjective. I think his strip is entertaining. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it isn't. I just described just about every comic strip I have ever read on-line or off.
Tim Buckley does his own game/con type thing called Digital Overload - so I don't know how he would approach pax - not to mention I really doubt Gabe and Tycho would ask him - based on things they've said about him.
You are right that he is 'infamous' in some circles. This mystifies me a bit. I've looked at all the stuff he gets criticized for and wonder why it is such a big deal. Then, the people who are the most vocal about it go and do the exact same things and the silence is deafening. He seems to take a lot of heat for no good reason beyond certain high-profile people don't like him.
I grew up in Arizona, and my dad took us to visit Arconsanti when I was in grade school. It was an interesting afternoon. It was pretty obvious then (late 70s) that it was not going anywhere. I'm really surprised it's still there. I always point at it when we go by on our way back to Phoenix from Strawberry. Should probably take my kids while I can.
This kind of thing is always much, much easier to think up, draw, plan, etc. than to actually build and use.
Last week? Does that mean earlier this week, or the week before the week I'm in? At what point in whatever week was last week? If I did an install/update after a certain date am I covered?
It would be nice if they weren't so vague about the time frame. Maybe it is to encourage people to check and not assume they will not have problems, but in a situation like this, the more accurate a picture I have of what is going on, the better I feel.
I wouldn't have a problem with my arrest for something being public, as long as it was just as public if I were found innocent.
A relative of mine built a storage shed in his back yard. A neighbor didn't like it and called the city. An inspector came out while he wasn't home, took incorrect measurements, and left a large, neon colored notice on the front of his house saying that he was in violation of city ordinances. He had them come out, showed them that they were wrong, and they said, "oh - sorry". He said, "Well, go tell all my neighbors." Of course they didn't.
A homeless man in Phoenix was picked up on suspicion of raping and killing a child a while back. They figured out pretty quickly that he didn't have anything to do with the child, but he did have other legal issues so he was kept in jail. That night it made the local news that he had been picked up in connection with the child's murder. He was beaten so badly he lost his spleen.
People who are accused of something are not necessarily guilty and I can see why they may not want it broadcast all over the world that they have been accused, when it is not easy to also broadcast their innocence later.
You can read about the guy who lost his spleen in this new times article that was written a bit after it all happened. It was all I could find, but this happened 8 years ago or so.
The headline for this ars article focuses on the ps3 gaining ground, but what is amazing is how dominant nintendo has become. It just doesn't make sense for any developer to ignore what is going on and I think we are going to see some phenomenal developments for the wii in every aspect.
Thanks for taking the time - that is helpful and I really appreciate it.
I'd consider bringing clarity where there was confusion to be a change. We could play these games all day. I'm glad I'm not a lawyer - it would drive me nuts picking apart every little word.
But back on topic - there are people that have made decisions based on the lack of clarity in this very situation as well as others. Now that it is less foggy, they make different decisions now. Once again, in my book, change.
I'm just glad it fell this way. I think it could have turned out differently - because to be honest I don't think the artistic license was worded all that well. But we learn as we go I guess.
I'm not trying to say the license is stronger than copyright law. I was trying to say that by making the license more than a contract they've made copyright law stronger, broader - however it would be best put. In fact, if I understand you correctly, I was trying to say what you just said.