[Umm, I meant, not Processor Upgradeable - of course you can add memory or disks.]..and processors and graphics cards and... . Even my "non upgradeable" Cube has now been upgraded to Dual 550mhz G4 processors ( DP 500 module clocked to 550), GF 3, 120GB WD HD and 1.5 GB RAM.
Charlie White published the following after MacWorld NY last year:
"Worse, he (Jobs) engages in downright fraud. Consider the tired old "smoking Pentiums" routine. Funny that when Jobs compares the new G4 with the Pentium, he picks Cleaner, an application that runs significantly faster on a Pentium 4 than a Pentium 3. But lo and behold -- it's a single-processor Pentium 3 that's compared to the mighty G4. What would happen if a dual processor Xeon 1.7 GHz machine (based on the P4 chip) were tested against the G4? Guess. Another odd occurrence: Where was the AMD Athlon chip, another "Pentium Smoker," in this carnival? I say, next time, Jobs, get a copy of LightWave up there and render a few frames with that G4 against the fastest PC and we'll see who gets smoked.
Charlie White Senior Producer Digital Media Net"
Of course what Charlie didn't say was that he had not watched the Macworld P4vs G4 shootout himself, which was was he missed the big P4 signs and the apology from Jobs that though they knew P4 1.8ghz models were shipping, Apple was only able to obtain a 1.7ghz model for the NY Macworld. He also missed the explanation that both the Photoshop and Cleaner apps (optimised for P4 and G4) were running a series of processes common to complete a real world job and that the P4 and G4 were both running equiv RAM and HDs. It seems that Charlie White and Digital Media Net never let the facts get in the way of a good headline.
Sure the new low end runs at 667mhz like the previous high end model but it now has the better and higher rez screen, new 32 MB Radion Mobility graphics and a 1 meg L3 cache.
The new Powerbooks should be heaps faster than the models they replace because while including the same 256k of L2 cache running at 1:1 they also feature the very welcome addition of a 1 meg L3 cache. With the new graphics engine and higher rez screen that's enough motivation for me to sell my rev 1 and buy a new 800. Many people here seem to be complaining that Apple needed to have screen rez higher than 1280 x 854, but for me that's still much better than the 1152 x 768 of my rev 1 Titanium and probably the comfort limit of my aging eyes. The DVI out is extra cool as I own both 22inch and 15 inch Apple flat panels (it's good to be the King) that I can now use with the new Powerbook for extra desktop real estate, still got to buy the DVI to ADC adaptor but as part of the complete system that's peanuts.
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Forget the iBook, buy a second hand 400mhz Titanium G4 Powerbook. You get your slot, a G4 (with 1mb L2) instead of a G3 (with 256k L2), that beautiful 15" display and irDA too. It will also hold a GB of RAM and has space for larger HDs than the iBook. Also by moving one resistor you can change it from 400mhz to 500mhz with no reliability problems since the CPU in the 400mhz model appears to be a 500mhz G4 clocked to 400 for marketing reasons.
Off topic but I'm pretty chuffed as we put it back together a few hours ago and it's still alive. It does have a (extra low noise) fan now but it's still almost silent.
The Titanium 550 is a good buy and by changing a couple of resistors can be converted into a 667/133mhz version. It's the old economy of scale and marketing at it again. The main board is the same on both the 550/100 and 667/133, but they clock the 550 down.You will find that even though your bus speed is 100mhz the RAM supplied by Apple is PC-133. This mod does required a qualified tech with good eyesight and a steady hand. Best done after a run in period of a few months or out of warranty.
"You use a WMD (weapon of mass destruction) on us, we use one on you - and all we have are nukes"
All you have is nukes? The USA has some of the worlds largest stockpiles of both chemical and biological weapons. America is the land of Weapons of Mass Destruction.
There are no overheating problems with the Cube. I own one, it's a beautifully engineered, almost silent and very compact computer. After installing more RAM, a larger/faster hard drive and Nvidia graphics card I was even more impressed with it. You should also be aware the entire iMac range is also fanless and practically silent and no, they don't overheat either.
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Wake up, you are having a nightmare! All of the latest G4 Powermacs (including the Cube) have ADC and VGA. What is the problem, you don't like choices? FireWire eats SCSI. No termination or ID hassles, up to 63 simultaneous devices, nice thin cable, hot plugable/plug and play,and provides power for external devices - great for external laptop HDs. 50 megabytes per second is not bad either and that is being upgraded to 100. It's also a streaming format (unlike USB 2) making it perfect for audio and video work. Using inexpensive industry standard IDE drives in a FireWire enclosure keeps the cost of an external drive way down, surely a good thing? What were you using as an external drive with your BW? SCSI drives cost 50% more for half the capacity. The BW G3 firmware thing was a naff decision but thanks to the quick work of the 3rd party processor people certainly didn't stop anyone putting G4 cards in BW G3's, and it did seem to make the BW more stable. I have yet to see a problem with RAM and the latest firmware but we always get our RAM from mainstream suppliers. Apple should have pre warned users of possible RAM issues - maybe they didn't expect many people to be using out of spec DIMMs - however, I certainly don't want to use components that may make my Mac less stable, do you? It's not as if they are forcing people to buy Apple branded RAM.
Why are you still pissed of about a problem that doesn't exist anymore?
Actually, many older Macs are quite expandable and once they started using PPC processors, it got really easy. The processor is on a card and can easily be replaced, dual G4 cards are available (or have been announced) for old Macs from 7500 series (originally PPC 601) thru to the latest models.
Clever work by third party processor companies has also allowed for the upgrading of Macs previously considered upgrade impaired, some 68K Macs are upgradeable to PPC 601, fast G3 processors are available for old PPC NUBUS Macs, G3 upgrades for Performa 5500 and 6500 series and even G4 upgrades for the first three series of (non upgradeable?) iMac. FireWire,USB and ATA-66 (soon ATA-100) PCI cards are available and directly supported by Mac OS. I own a futuristic Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh (LCD, Bose sound with Sub,TV, FM radio,S-video, MODEM,Ethernet, PCI and SCSI) now over 5 years old it is still wowing people who see it. Once considered not upgradeable, I have installed 128 MB RAM, 10 gig IBM HD and a 500 MHz G3 processor. Mac upgrades are fast and easy too. I can upgrade the RAM, HD and processor, including initialising, and partitioning (if required) the HD and installation of the OS in about 20 mins. Want to put a duplicate OS on a second partition or HD?, just drag and drop. Your comments on hard drive choices are as out of touch with reality as your processor argument. Apple's "Drive Setup" HD utility supports every modern IDE/ATA drive I have tried with it - and Apple delivers real "plug and play". For older SCSI Macs, third party utilities like FWB Hard Disk Toolkit allow the use of drives "unsupported" by Drive Setup. The floppy stuff sounds weird too. I have never needed to buy "Mac certified" disks but have seen plenty of PC floppy drives spit the dummy. Maybe your floppy drive was faulty. Current Macs as noted elsewhere have gigabit Ethernet, FireWire, USB, 16 bit audio I/O, ADC and VGA out and use industry standard IDE/ATA hard drives and PC-133 SDRAM. 4 PCI slots in a beautiful super accessible case and a true plug and play OS completes the picture.The "680x0 support?" thing is way off base too, I am amazed at how much really old software runs fine on new Macs. "SMP?" Been around for some time now and dual processor Macs are now a standard stock item. Macs do not suck.
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You are (polite mode on) confused. The processors used in the Apple DP 1.42 GHz G4 are 1.4GHz parts and are stamped as such by Motorola.
And yes I own one and have verified this.
No problem with my 800mhz Titanium.
PPC are very clockable, especially when single processor Macs share the same heat sink as dual processor Macs.
My Cube has 2 x 500mhz G4 processors (DP Apple module) each clocked to 550mhz.
Most music related apps are being ported to OSX and will run far better under it than OS 9.
Audio and MIDI stuff in particular.
[Umm, I meant, not Processor Upgradeable - of course you can add memory or disks.] ..and processors and graphics cards and...
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Even my "non upgradeable" Cube has now been upgraded to Dual 550mhz G4 processors ( DP 500 module clocked to 550), GF 3, 120GB WD HD and 1.5 GB RAM.
I had a look at your Gateway server and played around with the config options. Sorry, it's not in the running.
Have you actually read the specs for the Apple ? http://www.apple.com/xserve/pdf/XserveDS.pdf
Charlie White published the following after MacWorld NY last year:
"Worse, he (Jobs) engages in downright fraud. Consider the tired old "smoking Pentiums" routine. Funny that when Jobs compares the new G4 with the Pentium, he picks Cleaner, an application that runs significantly faster on a Pentium 4 than a Pentium 3. But lo and behold -- it's a single-processor Pentium 3 that's compared to the mighty G4.
What would happen if a dual processor Xeon 1.7 GHz machine (based on the P4 chip) were tested against the G4? Guess. Another odd
occurrence: Where was the AMD Athlon chip, another "Pentium Smoker," in this carnival? I say, next time, Jobs, get a copy of LightWave up there and render a few frames with that G4 against the fastest PC and we'll see who gets smoked.
Charlie White Senior Producer Digital Media Net"
Of course what Charlie didn't say was that he had not watched the Macworld P4vs G4 shootout himself, which was was he missed the big P4 signs and the apology from Jobs that though they knew P4 1.8ghz models were shipping, Apple was only able to obtain a 1.7ghz model for the NY Macworld. He also missed the explanation that both the Photoshop and Cleaner apps (optimised for P4 and G4) were running a series of processes common to complete a real world job and that the P4 and G4 were both running equiv RAM and HDs.
It seems that Charlie White and Digital Media Net never let the facts get in the way of a good headline.
Check the specs. 32 Mb is the recommended amount for best performance, less will still work fine.
Sure the new low end runs at 667mhz like the previous high end model but it now has the better and higher rez screen, new 32 MB Radion Mobility graphics and a 1 meg L3 cache.
The new Powerbooks should be heaps faster than the models they replace because while including the same 256k of L2 cache running at 1:1 they also feature the very welcome addition of a 1 meg L3 cache. With the new graphics engine and higher rez screen that's enough motivation for me to sell my rev 1 and buy a new 800. Many people here seem to be complaining that Apple needed to have screen rez higher than 1280 x 854, but for me that's still much better than the 1152 x 768 of my rev 1 Titanium and probably the comfort limit of my aging eyes. The DVI out is extra cool as I own both 22inch and 15 inch Apple flat panels (it's good to be the King) that I can now use with the new Powerbook for extra desktop real estate, still got to buy the DVI to ADC adaptor but as part of the complete system that's peanuts.
Forget the iBook, buy a second hand 400mhz Titanium G4 Powerbook. You get your slot, a G4 (with 1mb L2) instead of a G3 (with 256k L2), that beautiful 15" display and irDA too. It will also hold a GB of RAM and has space for larger HDs than the iBook. Also by moving one resistor you can change it from 400mhz to 500mhz with no reliability problems since the CPU in the 400mhz model appears to be a 500mhz G4 clocked to 400 for marketing reasons.
I like to tinker and I'm a Mac owner.
The result is a dual 550mhz G4 Cube - really!
Off topic but I'm pretty chuffed as we put it back together a few hours ago and it's still alive.
It does have a (extra low noise) fan now but it's still almost silent.
Hope it keeps going:)
The Titanium 550 is a good buy and by changing a couple of resistors can be converted into a 667/133mhz version. It's the old economy of scale and marketing at it again. The main board is the same on both the 550/100 and 667/133, but they clock the 550 down.You will find that even though your bus speed is 100mhz the RAM supplied by Apple is PC-133. This mod does required a qualified tech with good eyesight and a steady hand. Best done after a run in period of a few months or out of warranty.
"You use a WMD (weapon of mass destruction) on us, we use one on you - and all we have are nukes"
All you have is nukes? The USA has some of the worlds largest stockpiles of both chemical and biological weapons.
America is the land of Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Hmmm, then there is...
Time spend shopping for bits?
Shipping costs of bits?
Time involved in putting bits together, installing OS (Linux of course) and testing?
Go play with a new iMac, look at how nicely put together it is and how well it fulfills its intended function.
There are no overheating problems with the Cube. I own one, it's a beautifully engineered, almost silent and very compact computer. After installing more RAM, a larger/faster hard drive and Nvidia graphics card I was even more impressed with it. You should also be aware the entire iMac range is also fanless and practically silent and no, they don't overheat either. from sunny sydney
Wake up, you are having a nightmare! All of the latest G4 Powermacs (including the Cube) have ADC and VGA. What is the problem, you don't like choices? FireWire eats SCSI. No termination or ID hassles, up to 63 simultaneous devices, nice thin cable, hot plugable/plug and play,and provides power for external devices - great for external laptop HDs. 50 megabytes per second is not bad either and that is being upgraded to 100. It's also a streaming format (unlike USB 2) making it perfect for audio and video work. Using inexpensive industry standard IDE drives in a FireWire enclosure keeps the cost of an external drive way down, surely a good thing? What were you using as an external drive with your BW? SCSI drives cost 50% more for half the capacity. The BW G3 firmware thing was a naff decision but thanks to the quick work of the 3rd party processor people certainly didn't stop anyone putting G4 cards in BW G3's, and it did seem to make the BW more stable. I have yet to see a problem with RAM and the latest firmware but we always get our RAM from mainstream suppliers. Apple should have pre warned users of possible RAM issues - maybe they didn't expect many people to be using out of spec DIMMs - however, I certainly don't want to use components that may make my Mac less stable, do you? It's not as if they are forcing people to buy Apple branded RAM. Why are you still pissed of about a problem that doesn't exist anymore?
Actually, many older Macs are quite expandable and once they started using PPC processors, it got really easy. The processor is on a card and can easily be replaced, dual G4 cards are available (or have been announced) for old Macs from 7500 series (originally PPC 601) thru to the latest models. Clever work by third party processor companies has also allowed for the upgrading of Macs previously considered upgrade impaired, some 68K Macs are upgradeable to PPC 601, fast G3 processors are available for old PPC NUBUS Macs, G3 upgrades for Performa 5500 and 6500 series and even G4 upgrades for the first three series of (non upgradeable?) iMac. FireWire,USB and ATA-66 (soon ATA-100) PCI cards are available and directly supported by Mac OS. I own a futuristic Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh (LCD, Bose sound with Sub,TV, FM radio,S-video, MODEM,Ethernet, PCI and SCSI) now over 5 years old it is still wowing people who see it. Once considered not upgradeable, I have installed 128 MB RAM, 10 gig IBM HD and a 500 MHz G3 processor. Mac upgrades are fast and easy too. I can upgrade the RAM, HD and processor, including initialising, and partitioning (if required) the HD and installation of the OS in about 20 mins. Want to put a duplicate OS on a second partition or HD?, just drag and drop. Your comments on hard drive choices are as out of touch with reality as your processor argument. Apple's "Drive Setup" HD utility supports every modern IDE/ATA drive I have tried with it - and Apple delivers real "plug and play". For older SCSI Macs, third party utilities like FWB Hard Disk Toolkit allow the use of drives "unsupported" by Drive Setup. The floppy stuff sounds weird too. I have never needed to buy "Mac certified" disks but have seen plenty of PC floppy drives spit the dummy. Maybe your floppy drive was faulty. Current Macs as noted elsewhere have gigabit Ethernet, FireWire, USB, 16 bit audio I/O, ADC and VGA out and use industry standard IDE/ATA hard drives and PC-133 SDRAM. 4 PCI slots in a beautiful super accessible case and a true plug and play OS completes the picture.The "680x0 support?" thing is way off base too, I am amazed at how much really old software runs fine on new Macs. "SMP?" Been around for some time now and dual processor Macs are now a standard stock item. Macs do not suck.