"These exclusive articles were brought to you by the company that cares, Microsoft.
We welcome you to an age of safe computer. If it doesn't come with the label 'Trusted Computing' then it is a computer you can not trust. Non-trusted-computing may be used to commit phelons and endanger your safety. Non-trusted-computing may allow the use and execution of insecure software.
Remember, open source means the bad guys can see it's weaknesses!
Microsoft: the company that cares. If you run anything else, you could be at risk."
All with a picture of Bill Gates smiling, sitting in a garden full of blossoms and butterflies.
Lovely.
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I hope that Apache gets some viable competition.
It's not like there isn't options.
There's several other capable open source (Free Software) http servers available.
I would list a few of the better ones but I can't be bothered sifting through Freshmeat's unmoderated topic entries for http servers. But, by all means, have a look - there are some good ones there.
One that I've seen quite a few updates for on Freshmeat is Thy.
Although the way you relate Apache's monopoly to that of Windows is unfair. Apache is forcing a monoculture because it is that much better than the best of the rest, although the lesser known projects are fighting to be heard because everybody just looks to Apache or IIS for their http server needs.
What kinda cruft are you running? Who in their right mind would waste such precious bytes by selecting such a useless option when it is so easily cut out?/me goes back to Gnome 2.4
Duh! Where are the users, on photoshop. where is the industry, on photoshop, where are the tools and plugins, on photoshop where are the scripts, on photoshop.
Ignorance is bliss. You stand alone in youre ego bubble.
Whine whine whine you hackers never innovate, you only copy, why can't you do things differently!
Whine whine whine your things aren't the same as mine!
Apparently you don't know what you're talking about..and neither do the people who modded you insightful GIMP 1.3.x/2.0 does a lot to address the user interface issue; (most, AFAIK) of the previously isolated windows can be docked.
I can confirm that the OP didn't know what he was talking about.
On a more serious note, the perception that the Gimp has a terrible user interface is a fallacy. Most people who complain are Photoshop users. D'uh! It's got a different UI to Photoshop, try using it for more than 5 minutes and you'll find that it's quite a nifty UI that is arguably better.
Of course, most people are referring to Windows and their poor taskbar being clogged up. D'uh! Get a decent OS or WinXP that'll solve that for you.
On an even more serious note, there's some awesome UI improvements in Gimp2. Not only does it use the graceful gtk2, it has some awesome UI touches like being able to group together dialogues in a tabbed dialogue. Gimp2 takes all that was good about the Gimp UI and improves on it whilst dropping a lot of the deadwood.
I'm glad that they didn't listen the whining Why isn't it like Photoshop crowd and stuck to what is a good plan.
I am happy to hear that there is a Gimp 2 on the horizon.
The development version has been very good and (for me) very stable - more-so than the stable version - for the last 3-6 months, althoguh YMMV.
They've made a lot of improvements in usability as well as improving on and adding features. It's like comparing Photoshop6 to Photoshop4. It's that much better than the ugly, awkward, and sometimes crashy Gimp-1.2.
Keith wanted XFree to be more organised in respect to pushing new development horizons and bringing in new developers. He only started his own X server because he was forced to do so.
Keith wants to hack on an advanced X system. He would have been quite happy to do so under XFree only they didn't let him. When you have Windows users (literally) dictating the direction of a primarily *nix project, then you know there is a problem with project structure.
Don't jump to conclusions. Just because Keith 'et al' weren't happy with the way XFree was being run, doesn't mean he had an agenda.
It's not a game. Nobody won. In fact, in the short term, recent events mean that really everybody has lost. Fortunately, with the way X server is starting to shape out, we'll all have won in the future when we have an excellent X server for us to use.
Also there are treaties signed to enforce copyrights in other countries and i certainly wouldn't put it past the us to levy huge sanctions and declare war on a country permitting so much piracy when the big coprs lean on the government a little.
LOL! I take it you're voting for George Bush at the next election then!
Now that Phoenix has signed on to "Trusted Computing" we are facing the very real possibility that the next generation of hardware (and MS OS) will have a very difficult to break content lock in. [Linux would] have to run in "Non-Trusted" mode, MS webservers wouldn't serve to a non-trusted computer...... This is the real threat, and considering MS's history I really do think they'll try it. OpenOffice can open Word files? No problem, DRM them and poof, no more (legal) OpenOffice.
You are forgetting something - making the classic American mistake. America != The World. In fact, America is a minority when it comes to population.
The world is techifying. The most populace countries (China, India) are quickly arming their preverbial IT armies.
Your stupid DRM laws won't apply to us, the rest of the World. We don't care for them. We'll buy non-DRM hardware and run non-locking software on top of it. The large hardware companies would be mad to turn against us since we outnumber you, ooo, by about 32 to 1 or so.
I know we (the rest of the world) are all not rich yet. But the balance of power is shifting - just check your outsourcing statistics.
There is only a small degree to which American laws can be used to consolidate Microsoft's position. Microsoft knows it cannot ignore the rest of the world because it is the bigger market and the future market is a global one. Microsoft maintaining a global monopoly is a whole other ball game and one they are starting to lose.
> >...and they would just trash it... > > Isn't that what the spammers say? "If you don't > want it, just delete it. What's the big deal?" > The big deal is that about a quarter of my email is > bogus bounces and useless "confirmation" message > from systems such as yours.
Oh come on, think a little.
If this system were common, your email client would only bother you with confirmation requests that originated from people you recently emailed.
Oh come on. We've been in 'beta' mode for a very long time. Since Windows was first released back in the 80s. Everything (server-stuff excluded) since then has been of beta quality when compared to the equivalents from other industries.
Imagine how unreliable cars would be if they had the same relaxed release criteria as software?
Oh come on. Mandrake have openly, repeatedly gotten down on their hands and knees and begged the community to make donati^H^H^H^H^H^H contributions by joining the Mandrake club and get very little in return. Putting your hand out for money is asking for charity. Period.
this is my ideal of REAL OPEN SOURCE. they give away everything (except the proprietary stuff) and give away support. and they still make money. way to go
HAHAAH AHAHA ROFLMAO HAHAHAAAAAAHHAAAAAA!!!!
Nice one... you had me going for a while.
What? You meant it? "They make money?"
HAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHA!!!!!!!
Man, I'm wiping away tears here. I never thought of charities as 'making money'.
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I don't know, never seen one. But I'm sure they don't switch directions like a flock of birds (ie all at once) and I also thought it was a bit unfair on the orcs since these ghosts were seemingly invincible.
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Bravo Bravo! A voice of sanity!
Especially with all the effort that goes into creating such amazing scenes, it's the little things that often make or break the escapism of a movie.
I was enthralled by the final battle in RotK when the cavalry was scything through the Orc armies, only to be decimated by mercinaries.
Then Legalos turns from the stylish Orlando Bloom into some jerky CG stand-in as he defies physics to scale a 'giant elephant'. And during the middle of his feat, you see a backdrop of the 'ghost army' changing direction like a flock of birds. Two silly moments of unrealism and I'm dropped totally out of my concious dream and back into a movie theatre. Then the were the numerous occasions when the hobbits looked so obviously bluescreened onto scenes.
The hallmark of a great movie is one that makes you forget you're in a movie theatre. RotK did quite a good job until the latter stages, when some fake CG and some cheesey Hollywood kisses left me firmly aware of where I was.
It was a great movie, but don't kid yourself; there was room for improvement.
So, if you understand what you wrote, are you suggesting that they'll ship a GNU/Linux version of their ad software?
Yes, I read my post you dingbat.
No, they won't be shipping a GNU/Linux versoin of their ad software. Yes, I can still 'load' it onto my PC to adhere to their TOCs. Just copy it over to my HD.
Or I could keep WinXP on a partition and boot that once a month although that's less preferrable than the first option.
Or I could hit the middleground by using WINE.
Also, the terms and conditions say that you must connect to the internet at least once per month. Obviously this is so that some piece of software can transmit data to verify that you've installed your ads etc. Will this software be available for GNU/Linux?
Who cares? Their TOCs don't stipulate, "You must be on the Internet so our software can register each month." Nor does it say, "You must use the preinstalled operating system." It simply says, "You must be connected to the Internet once a month." I can do that. So what if their software doesn't fire? It's no concern of mine.
The economy in the U.K. is horrid right now. Nobody has any money or work and everyone is on welfare.
You're evidently living in a different UK to me. I'm living in the UK that has a growing economy that is doing better than any of the G7 countries. I'm living in the UK where unemployment is pretty much lower than it's ever been. (Although Bliar has done a few magic tricks to make it that way statistically.)
You would have thought so... but here are their TOC:
The following 5 key terms and conditions are for your guidance only, and do not constitute a legally binding agreement. Before delivery, you will be required to complete a written agreement, either by post or online.
1) On screen advertising: In exchange for your free PC, you must accept up to 3 minutes of on-screen advertising per hour of PC use. Every month, you will receive a cd containing adverts to be shown over the following four weeks. Each disc must be loaded onto your PC for the system to update. Should you fail to do this, your PC will be disabled.
2) The PC is lent to you for a term of 36 months, after which you will be offered a new computer and a new agreement, or you can simply return the old machine to a local collection point.
3) Your household must use the PC for at least 30hrs per calender month, or approximately 1 hour a day.
4) The PC must be connected to the internet at least once a month, and you must maintain an ISP dial-up account throughout the term of the agreement.
5) The principle applicant should be 18 or over, and provide a home telephone number. We will conduct a security check linking you to the address given. Under certain circumstances, you may be requested to provide alternative proof of ID. This offer is restricted to one PC per household.
If you accept these terms and conditions and consider yourself eligible, then please click on the 'Order your free PC' button to the left of your screen, and complete the short application form.
I don't see anything limiting me to installing my own OS. Sure, I'll copy over their monthly CD. It'll do nothing to my Gentoo install but so what?
I'm on broadband (aren't we all?) so I can prove that I've been on el Net for more than 30 hours a month.
... I mean how many distributions are perfect, the first time around. RHN is available up until April, which gives them a bit of time to sot things out, if they're expecting a big migration from RH to fedora...
What?
Fedora is a rehash of RH9. Really, most people are equating Fedora with being RH10. That is hardly 'first time around'.
What is laughable is that Eugenia still had those old RPM dependency hell issues. You would have thought they would have been solved by now, or that somebody would have created a decent desktop based on a base distribution with decent packagemanagement tools.
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Why is it that I hear in my head:
o mp uter-usage. Microsoft-reserves-the-right-to-keep-copies-of-all -your-information. Based-on-information-collected-Microsoft-reserves- the-right-to-prosecute-or-to-give-your-details-to- those-that-can-prosecute.- right-to-take-away-your-civ il-liberties.
"These exclusive articles were brought to you by the company that cares, Microsoft.
We welcome you to an age of safe computer. If it doesn't come with the label 'Trusted Computing' then it is a computer you can not trust. Non-trusted-computing may be used to commit phelons and endanger your safety. Non-trusted-computing may allow the use and execution of insecure software.
Remember, open source means the bad guys can see it's weaknesses!
Microsoft: the company that cares. If you run anything else, you could be at risk."
Then, in so-fast-it's-unintelligible-voice-mode:
"Microsoft-reserves-the-right-to-monitor-your-c
Microsoft-reserves-the
You-have-no-rights."
All with a picture of Bill Gates smiling, sitting in a garden full of blossoms and butterflies.
Lovely.
I hope that Apache gets some viable competition.
It's not like there isn't options.
There's several other capable open source (Free Software) http servers available.
I would list a few of the better ones but I can't be bothered sifting through Freshmeat's unmoderated topic entries for http servers. But, by all means, have a look - there are some good ones there.
One that I've seen quite a few updates for on Freshmeat is Thy.
Although the way you relate Apache's monopoly to that of Windows is unfair. Apache is forcing a monoculture because it is that much better than the best of the rest, although the lesser known projects are fighting to be heard because everybody just looks to Apache or IIS for their http server needs.
And, just because I have to, FIRST POST on /.!
For the one comment alone, the rest of your post is automatically disregarded. Now, back in line, you maggot!
Or use /proc/config.gz from the 2.6.0 system
/me goes back to Gnome 2.4
What kinda cruft are you running? Who in their right mind would waste such precious bytes by selecting such a useless option when it is so easily cut out?
You're in denial. The GIMP's interface is terrible ...for you.
Speaking for myself, the atmosphere of The GIMP simply isn't conducive to my creativity
Are you gay?
Duh! Where are the users, on photoshop. where is the industry, on photoshop, where are the tools and plugins, on photoshop where are the scripts, on photoshop.
Ignorance is bliss. You stand alone in youre ego bubble.
Whine whine whine you hackers never innovate, you only copy, why can't you do things differently!
Whine whine whine your things aren't the same as mine!
Make up your fucking mind.
The largest problem with learning The GIMP right now is that ... you will be hard pressed to find a "Teach yourself" or "24 hours" type book, especially for the current version. There are tutorials online... ...such as the Gimp User Group which can teach you a lot of very good techniques with a collection of very good tutorials.
Apparently you don't know what you're talking about..and neither do the people who modded you insightful GIMP 1.3.x/2.0 does a lot to address the user interface issue; (most, AFAIK) of the previously isolated windows can be docked.
I can confirm that the OP didn't know what he was talking about.
On a more serious note, the perception that the Gimp has a terrible user interface is a fallacy. Most people who complain are Photoshop users. D'uh! It's got a different UI to Photoshop, try using it for more than 5 minutes and you'll find that it's quite a nifty UI that is arguably better.
Of course, most people are referring to Windows and their poor taskbar being clogged up. D'uh! Get a decent OS or WinXP that'll solve that for you.
On an even more serious note, there's some awesome UI improvements in Gimp2. Not only does it use the graceful gtk2, it has some awesome UI touches like being able to group together dialogues in a tabbed dialogue. Gimp2 takes all that was good about the Gimp UI and improves on it whilst dropping a lot of the deadwood.
I'm glad that they didn't listen the whining Why isn't it like Photoshop crowd and stuck to what is a good plan.
And I, for one, welcome our new Gimp overlords.
I am happy to hear that there is a Gimp 2 on the horizon.
The development version has been very good and (for me) very stable - more-so than the stable version - for the last 3-6 months, althoguh YMMV.
They've made a lot of improvements in usability as well as improving on and adding features. It's like comparing Photoshop6 to Photoshop4. It's that much better than the ugly, awkward, and sometimes crashy Gimp-1.2.
Wasn't this what Keith Packard et.al wanted?
And from where did you draw that conclusion?
Keith wanted XFree to be more organised in respect to pushing new development horizons and bringing in new developers. He only started his own X server because he was forced to do so.
Keith wants to hack on an advanced X system. He would have been quite happy to do so under XFree only they didn't let him. When you have Windows users (literally) dictating the direction of a primarily *nix project, then you know there is a problem with project structure.
Don't jump to conclusions. Just because Keith 'et al' weren't happy with the way XFree was being run, doesn't mean he had an agenda.
It's not a game. Nobody won. In fact, in the short term, recent events mean that really everybody has lost. Fortunately, with the way X server is starting to shape out, we'll all have won in the future when we have an excellent X server for us to use.
Also there are treaties signed to enforce copyrights in other countries and i certainly wouldn't put it past the us to levy huge sanctions and declare war on a country permitting so much piracy when the big coprs lean on the government a little.
LOL! I take it you're voting for George Bush at the next election then!
Now that Phoenix has signed on to "Trusted Computing" we are facing the very real possibility that the next generation of hardware (and MS OS) will have a very difficult to break content lock in. [Linux would] have to run in "Non-Trusted" mode, MS webservers wouldn't serve to a non-trusted computer... ... This is the real threat, and considering MS's history I really do think they'll try it. OpenOffice can open Word files? No problem, DRM them and poof, no more (legal) OpenOffice.
You are forgetting something - making the classic American mistake. America != The World. In fact, America is a minority when it comes to population.
The world is techifying. The most populace countries (China, India) are quickly arming their preverbial IT armies.
Your stupid DRM laws won't apply to us, the rest of the World. We don't care for them. We'll buy non-DRM hardware and run non-locking software on top of it. The large hardware companies would be mad to turn against us since we outnumber you, ooo, by about 32 to 1 or so.
I know we (the rest of the world) are all not rich yet. But the balance of power is shifting - just check your outsourcing statistics.
There is only a small degree to which American laws can be used to consolidate Microsoft's position. Microsoft knows it cannot ignore the rest of the world because it is the bigger market and the future market is a global one. Microsoft maintaining a global monopoly is a whole other ball game and one they are starting to lose.
> > ...and they would just trash it...
>
> Isn't that what the spammers say? "If you don't
> want it, just delete it. What's the big deal?"
> The big deal is that about a quarter of my email is
> bogus bounces and useless "confirmation" message
> from systems such as yours.
Oh come on, think a little.
If this system were common, your email client would only bother you with confirmation requests that originated from people you recently emailed.
Oh come on. We've been in 'beta' mode for a very long time. Since Windows was first released back in the 80s. Everything (server-stuff excluded) since then has been of beta quality when compared to the equivalents from other industries.
Imagine how unreliable cars would be if they had the same relaxed release criteria as software?
Oh come on. Mandrake have openly, repeatedly gotten down on their hands and knees and begged the community to make donati^H^H^H^H^H^H contributions by joining the Mandrake club and get very little in return. Putting your hand out for money is asking for charity. Period.
this is my ideal of REAL OPEN SOURCE. they give away everything (except the proprietary stuff) and give away support. and they still make money. way to go
HAHAAH AHAHA ROFLMAO HAHAHAAAAAAHHAAAAAA!!!!
Nice one... you had me going for a while.
What? You meant it? "They make money?"
HAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHA!!!!!!!
Man, I'm wiping away tears here. I never thought of charities as 'making money'.
I don't know, never seen one. But I'm sure they don't switch directions like a flock of birds (ie all at once) and I also thought it was a bit unfair on the orcs since these ghosts were seemingly invincible.
Bravo Bravo! A voice of sanity!
Especially with all the effort that goes into creating such amazing scenes, it's the little things that often make or break the escapism of a movie.
I was enthralled by the final battle in RotK when the cavalry was scything through the Orc armies, only to be decimated by mercinaries.
Then Legalos turns from the stylish Orlando Bloom into some jerky CG stand-in as he defies physics to scale a 'giant elephant'. And during the middle of his feat, you see a backdrop of the 'ghost army' changing direction like a flock of birds. Two silly moments of unrealism and I'm dropped totally out of my concious dream and back into a movie theatre. Then the were the numerous occasions when the hobbits looked so obviously bluescreened onto scenes.
The hallmark of a great movie is one that makes you forget you're in a movie theatre. RotK did quite a good job until the latter stages, when some fake CG and some cheesey Hollywood kisses left me firmly aware of where I was.
It was a great movie, but don't kid yourself; there was room for improvement.
So, if you understand what you wrote, are you suggesting that they'll ship a GNU/Linux version of their ad software?
Yes, I read my post you dingbat.
No, they won't be shipping a GNU/Linux versoin of their ad software. Yes, I can still 'load' it onto my PC to adhere to their TOCs. Just copy it over to my HD.
Or I could keep WinXP on a partition and boot that once a month although that's less preferrable than the first option.
Or I could hit the middleground by using WINE.
Also, the terms and conditions say that you must connect to the internet at least once per month. Obviously this is so that some piece of software can transmit data to verify that you've installed your ads etc. Will this software be available for GNU/Linux?
Who cares? Their TOCs don't stipulate, "You must be on the Internet so our software can register each month." Nor does it say, "You must use the preinstalled operating system." It simply says, "You must be connected to the Internet once a month." I can do that. So what if their software doesn't fire? It's no concern of mine.
The economy in the U.K. is horrid right now. Nobody has any money or work and everyone is on welfare.
You're evidently living in a different UK to me. I'm living in the UK that has a growing economy that is doing better than any of the G7 countries. I'm living in the UK where unemployment is pretty much lower than it's ever been. (Although Bliar has done a few magic tricks to make it that way statistically.)
You would have thought so... but here are their TOC:
The following 5 key terms and conditions are for your guidance only, and do not constitute a legally binding agreement. Before delivery, you will be required to complete a written agreement, either by post or online.
1) On screen advertising: In exchange for your free PC, you must accept up to 3 minutes of on-screen advertising per hour of PC use. Every month, you will receive a cd containing adverts to be shown over the following four weeks. Each disc must be loaded onto your PC for the system to update. Should you fail to do this, your PC will be disabled.
2) The PC is lent to you for a term of 36 months, after which you will be offered a new computer and a new agreement, or you can simply return the old machine to a local collection point.
3) Your household must use the PC for at least 30hrs per calender month, or approximately 1 hour a day.
4) The PC must be connected to the internet at least once a month, and you must maintain an ISP dial-up account throughout the term of the agreement.
5) The principle applicant should be 18 or over, and provide a home telephone number. We will conduct a security check linking you to the address given. Under certain circumstances, you may be requested to provide alternative proof of ID. This offer is restricted to one PC per household.
If you accept these terms and conditions and consider yourself eligible, then please click on the 'Order your free PC' button to the left of your screen, and complete the short application form.
I don't see anything limiting me to installing my own OS. Sure, I'll copy over their monthly CD. It'll do nothing to my Gentoo install but so what?
I'm on broadband (aren't we all?) so I can prove that I've been on el Net for more than 30 hours a month.
Novell had 5 people elected
The fifth was excluded you ignoramous.
I hope they develop firebird into a PIM suite
I dunno... I a bit sceptical about developing a web browser into a PIM suite. Surely that'll mean massive work underneath the hood.
On a more serious note, I see what you mean. Thunderbird would be amazing if it got task, scheduling, and contact support.
If only there were a way to stab people in the face over the Internet...
What?
Fedora is a rehash of RH9. Really, most people are equating Fedora with being RH10. That is hardly 'first time around'.
What is laughable is that Eugenia still had those old RPM dependency hell issues. You would have thought they would have been solved by now, or that somebody would have created a decent desktop based on a base distribution with decent package management tools.