Mac-on-Linux lets you run MacOS under Linux/ppc. MOL runs natively on the processor,
i.e. it is very fast. Unlike most mac emulators, MOL can run MacOS 8.6 and later
WITHOUT A ROM IMAGE.
Feature List
- Supports MacOS 7.5.2 to 9.2.2, 10.1 and 10.2
- Linux can be booted inside MOL
- Full screen video
- MMU accelereaded X video
- Audio support
- Block device support (Ide, Scsi, Zip, Jaz)
- ADB & USB support for mouse and keyboard
- Ethernet
- Runs natively - good speed!
- Very compatible
- Idle sleep (8.6 or later)
- Session save and restore (temporary unavailable)
- AltiVec support
- Multi-session support
OK, it's not binary compatibility, but unlike COMPAT_MACH and COMPAT_DARWIN it does already work.
But COMPAT_MACH and COMPAT_DARWIN are very interesting and worth keeping an eye on it.
Oh, BTW.... From the MOL-FAQ:
Q: Does it run on i386 hardware?
A: No, MOL can only run on PowerPC hardware since no emulation is performed. However, adding a PowerPC emulator for x86 is under consideration.
You don't seem to like XUL. In your original post you praised this new thing
for ditching XUL. Yet in the article you linked to, we find the following:
Communicator utilizes the Gecko engine and XUL user interface language
found in Mozilla, but it was developed entirely in-house and is not open source,
according to AOL.
And you ask people not to mod you down...
I prefer doing my own research instead of just believing what's written in some
article.
copyright-notice.txt mentions wxWindows. Why should AOL mention wxWindows,
when the Communicator uses XUL for the interface?
Have a look into the file ''AOL Communicator\locale\cat\wxweb.mo''. You
can find the following strings:
The strings indicate that AOL ported Gecko to wxWindows.
Yes, there are also XUL files in ''AOL Communicator\chrome\embed.jar'', but
K-Meleon (a Windows browser using MFC for
GUI stuff and Gecko for rendering) does also have XUL files in ''K-Meleon\chrome\embed.jar''.
I don't know Galeon, but I'm sure, it does also have a file called ''chrome/embed.jar''
that contains XUL files.
Do I dislike XUL? - No. I don't care about the toolkit. I don't like the current
state of XUL... it became better - as I said, but it's not what it should be
to the user (performace as most important point).
To make one thing clear: I'm not a Mozilla basher. I use Mozilla (and Mozilla
based browsers) under every OS I use (Phoenix under Windows, Mozilla under BeOS,
and Netscape 7 under Solaris8/SPARC in my university).
I want that is that a good product (Mozilla) becomes better. Gecko is a very
good rendering engine, but IMHO XUL is (in it's current form) not that good
for GUI stuff (from a user's perspective).
2) Mozilla developers developed XUL because it makes UI development a lot faster and easier than using WxWindows.
Sorry, but developers of an end-user application (Mozilla/Netscape) should focus on the end user, not other developers. 1.) In some situations (not always, but IMHO too often - when Phoenix/Mozilla displays large images or complex tables) the context menu takes a few seconds to appear. From a user's perspective, this is not acceptable (I hope you don't have simmilar expieriences, because that's very annoying).
2.) If XUL is so great, why are there so many projects to get rid of it? (Geleon, K-Meleon, Chimera,...) IMO this does only fragment the development of Mozilla. If Mozilla used a GUI toolkit with good performance from the beginning, those projects wouldn't be neccessary.
Personally, I don't care if it's wxWindows or some other toolkit. My point is, that Mozilla should've used a toolkit that looks fammiliar to the user (not like some alien app as Mozilla with the Modern theme) and has good performance.
2003 is the year of Mozilla's dead.... at least of Mozilla's current form.
The reason? AOL Communicator! I downloaded a beta version from www.datakill.com
and I think, it has a bright future.
The reasons:
It seems that AOL is finally going to push Gecko to the masses (It's branded as AOL product, not Netscape)
AOL Communicator is split up in single applications (ac_mail.exe, ac_im.exe,...) - no ''all in one'' like Mozilla or Netscape.
(And that's my peronal favourite, 'cause that's what I prayed for since ages) AOL Communictor is written using wxWindows!
Yes it's true. Finally they got rid of the sluggish XUL interface and still being multi-plattform.
Phoenix (or whatever the future name will be) has helped, but Phoenix' interface is still somewhat slow compared to native Windows apps. Phoenix' GUI toolkit is also not fully aware of Visual Styles (skins for WinXP) - the menus look ''old school'', while the other apps have flat/skinned menus.
AOL Communicator (thanks to wxWindows) uses native widgets everywhere.
Quote from the included copyright-notice.txt:
AOL Communicator uses the following libraries and modules:
wxWindows libraries Copyright (c) 1998 Julian Smart, Robert
Roebling. The wxWindows source code, available under the
wxWindows Library License, Version 3, can be found at http://www.wxwindows.org.
While the beta version does only consist of an eMail app and the Instant Messenger (compatible with AIM and ICQ), AOL is also developing a browser component.
If you have a look into the file ''AOL Communicator\locale\cat\ac_help.mo'', you can find the following strings (BTW, ''Photon'' is the codename for the Communicator):
About Photon Browser
Photon Browser is not currently your default browser.
Would you like to make it your default browser?
Oh yes, I can't wait for the final release. I hope there will be an open source version of it (without the AOL specific stuff like AOL Mail or the Instant Messenger - called Mozilla 2.0 or something like that), to allow porting it to other platforms.
Oh, BTW... I did an experiment and it worked: You can move the mail folder from Mozilla's profile directory to AOL Communicator's profile directory. All your mails stay intact.
Honestly, I don't know why the Mozilla/Netscape developers waste their time in creating a new toolkit (the one that Phoenix uses), if they should better convince their bosses from AOL to open the source of the Communicator.
PS: Thanks for reading this post and (hopefully) not modding me down as ''Troll'':)
IMHO wxWindows is a better solution for cross-platform GUI apps. wxWindows supports MacOS (9 and X), Windows and various Unices. The nice thing is, that wxWindows uses the native widgets (GTK in Unix/Linux) for the rendering.
And de Icaza says he has unofficial word that in the coming weeks Microsoft plans to share.Net-related intellectual property. Pending review by Microsoft lawyers, he says, "Microsoft patents on technology developed specifically for.Net will be granted royalty-free to those trying to implement the spec."
Yeah, it says "unofficial", but don't spread FUD until there's some updated (the Ballmer quote is from March) official information.
Visit the Helix Community and download the Helix DNA Binaries. This pack comes with an application called HelixPlay. This player is crappy and not very user friendly, but it's small (~2MB compressed; ~5MB expanded) and has no spy ware. It's enough to view RealVideos, if you have to.
Re:Pheonix vs Mozilla on Win32 (I prefer mozilla)
on
Phoenix 0.5 Has Arrived
·
· Score: 2, Informative
You can also copy the password files from Mozilla to Phoenix. Copy (StangeNumbre).s and (StangeNumbre).w from "C:\Dokuments and Settings\USER\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\BLABLA.slt" to "C:\Dokuments and Settings\USER\Application Data\Phoenix\Profiles\default\BLABLA.slt" then edit the following lines in prefs.js: user_pref("signon.SignonFileName", "StangeNumbre.s"); user_pref("wallet.SchemaValueF ileName", "StangeNumbre.w");
"Haha, look... the lamer goes into the Intel movie." "You have no clue. Intel movies have a lot higher image quality than AMD movies." "Pah, but you the story line of Linux movies is crap, while Windows movies rock!" "Nah, Windows movies are the most sucking movies around. You can only see a blue screen when it get's exciting. Mac movies rule!" ...
Re:Pheonix vs Mozilla on Win32 (I prefer mozilla)
on
Phoenix 0.5 Has Arrived
·
· Score: 3, Informative
You can also use quicklaunch with Phoenix. Just run "phoenix.exe -turbo"
AAC shines at 128kbit, where it reportedly is acoustically transparent when encoded with CD-quality source.
Yeah, right... CD quality at 128kb/s. That's what they said about MP3 a few years ago. Today (they say) we can achieve CD quality at 64kb/s when encoding to MP3Pro or WMA.
PGPDisk from PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 8) should work under WinXP. I don't know how well PGPdisk works, since I had a few problems with the ckt version and uninstalled it after a short while. You may try it. Maybe it works well for you. PGP ckt Homepage
c't is a good computer magazine, but it's not an professional audio magazine. If you want to learn about audio encoding, listening tests and so on, visit audio-illumination.org and ff123.net
A discussion about heise's listening test can be found here.
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Mac-On-Linux
OK, it's not binary compatibility, but unlike COMPAT_MACH and COMPAT_DARWIN it does already work. But COMPAT_MACH and COMPAT_DARWIN are very interesting and worth keeping an eye on it.
Oh, BTW.... From the MOL-FAQ:
And you ask people not to mod you down...
I prefer doing my own research instead of just believing what's written in some article.
Yes, there are also XUL files in ''AOL Communicator\chrome\embed.jar'', but K-Meleon (a Windows browser using MFC for GUI stuff and Gecko for rendering) does also have XUL files in ''K-Meleon\chrome\embed.jar''. I don't know Galeon, but I'm sure, it does also have a file called ''chrome/embed.jar'' that contains XUL files.
Do I dislike XUL? - No. I don't care about the toolkit. I don't like the current state of XUL... it became better - as I said, but it's not what it should be to the user (performace as most important point).
To make one thing clear: I'm not a Mozilla basher. I use Mozilla (and Mozilla based browsers) under every OS I use (Phoenix under Windows, Mozilla under BeOS, and Netscape 7 under Solaris8/SPARC in my university).
I want that is that a good product (Mozilla) becomes better. Gecko is a very good rendering engine, but IMHO XUL is (in it's current form) not that good for GUI stuff (from a user's perspective).
Sorry, but developers of an end-user application (Mozilla/Netscape) should focus on the end user, not other developers.
1.) In some situations (not always, but IMHO too often - when Phoenix/Mozilla displays large images or complex tables) the context menu takes a few seconds to appear. From a user's perspective, this is not acceptable (I hope you don't have simmilar expieriences, because that's very annoying).
2.) If XUL is so great, why are there so many projects to get rid of it? (Geleon, K-Meleon, Chimera,...)
IMO this does only fragment the development of Mozilla. If Mozilla used a GUI toolkit with good performance from the beginning, those projects wouldn't be neccessary.
Personally, I don't care if it's wxWindows or some other toolkit. My point is, that Mozilla should've used a toolkit that looks fammiliar to the user (not like some alien app as Mozilla with the Modern theme) and has good performance.
This is not a troll post!
2003 is the year of Mozilla's dead.... at least of Mozilla's current form.
The reason? AOL Communicator! I downloaded a beta version from www.datakill.com and I think, it has a bright future.
The reasons:
Yes it's true. Finally they got rid of the sluggish XUL interface and still being multi-plattform.
Phoenix (or whatever the future name will be) has helped, but Phoenix' interface is still somewhat slow compared to native Windows apps. Phoenix' GUI toolkit is also not fully aware of Visual Styles (skins for WinXP) - the menus look ''old school'', while the other apps have flat/skinned menus.
AOL Communicator (thanks to wxWindows) uses native widgets everywhere.
Quote from the included copyright-notice.txt:
AOL Communicator uses the following libraries and modules:
wxWindows libraries Copyright (c) 1998 Julian Smart, Robert
Roebling. The wxWindows source code, available under the
wxWindows Library License, Version 3, can be found at
http://www.wxwindows.org.
While the beta version does only consist of an eMail app and the Instant Messenger (compatible with AIM and ICQ), AOL is also developing a browser component.
If you have a look into the file ''AOL Communicator\locale\cat\ac_help.mo'', you can find the following strings (BTW, ''Photon'' is the codename for the Communicator):
About Photon Browser
Photon Browser is not currently your default browser.
Would you like to make it your default browser?
Oh yes, I can't wait for the final release. I hope there will be an open source version of it (without the AOL specific stuff like AOL Mail or the Instant Messenger - called Mozilla 2.0 or something like that), to allow porting it to other platforms.
Oh, BTW... I did an experiment and it worked: You can move the mail folder from Mozilla's profile directory to AOL Communicator's profile directory. All your mails stay intact.
Honestly, I don't know why the Mozilla/Netscape developers waste their time in creating a new toolkit (the one that Phoenix uses), if they should better convince their bosses from AOL to open the source of the Communicator.
PS: Thanks for reading this post and (hopefully) not modding me down as ''Troll'' :)
IMHO wxWindows is a better solution for cross-platform GUI apps. wxWindows supports MacOS (9 and X), Windows and various Unices. The nice thing is, that wxWindows uses the native widgets (GTK in Unix/Linux) for the rendering.
It's here
And de Icaza says he has unofficial word that in the coming weeks Microsoft plans to share .Net-related intellectual property. Pending review by Microsoft lawyers, he says, "Microsoft patents on technology developed specifically for .Net will be granted royalty-free to those trying to implement the spec."
Yeah, it says "unofficial", but don't spread FUD until there's some updated (the Ballmer quote is from March) official information.
Osama Bin Laden?
Vaporware since 20 years. Not even "Duke Nukem Forever in Development" can beat GNU/Hurd.
The problem with DOSBox is, that it does not (yet) support DOS extenders.
Only here such a troll gets modded up to "Interesting".
Visit the Helix Community and download the Helix DNA Binaries.
This pack comes with an application called HelixPlay. This player is crappy and not very user friendly, but it's small (~2MB compressed; ~5MB expanded) and has no spy ware. It's enough to view RealVideos, if you have to.
You can also copy the password files from Mozilla to Phoenix.F ileName", "StangeNumbre.w");
Copy (StangeNumbre).s and (StangeNumbre).w from "C:\Dokuments and Settings\USER\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\BLABLA.slt" to "C:\Dokuments and Settings\USER\Application Data\Phoenix\Profiles\default\BLABLA.slt" then edit the following lines in prefs.js:
user_pref("signon.SignonFileName", "StangeNumbre.s");
user_pref("wallet.SchemaValue
This reminds me of a posting I once read.
"Haha, look... the lamer goes into the Intel movie."
"You have no clue. Intel movies have a lot higher image quality than AMD movies."
"Pah, but you the story line of Linux movies is crap, while Windows movies rock!"
"Nah, Windows movies are the most sucking movies around. You can only see a blue screen when it get's exciting. Mac movies rule!"
...
You can also use quicklaunch with Phoenix.
Just run "phoenix.exe -turbo"
......imagine a beowulf cluster of these?
AOLTW has a lot of money.
Whoa, Netscape 0.9 Beta r0x0Rz. It can't even open http://www.google.de/. It just tells me
302 Moved
The document has moved
here.
Damn cool!
AAC shines at 128kbit, where it reportedly is acoustically transparent when encoded with CD-quality source.
Yeah, right... CD quality at 128kb/s. That's what they said about MP3 a few years ago.
Today (they say) we can achieve CD quality at 64kb/s when encoding to MP3Pro or WMA.
Don't believe in something like that.
If you want to learn about audio stuff, visit www.hydrogenaudio.org.
PGPDisk from PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 8) should work under WinXP. I don't know how well PGPdisk works, since I had a few problems with the ckt version and uninstalled it after a short while.
You may try it. Maybe it works well for you.
PGP ckt Homepage
c't is a good computer magazine, but it's not an professional audio magazine.
If you want to learn about audio encoding, listening tests and so on, visit audio-illumination.org and ff123.net
A discussion about heise's listening test can be found here.
XBox sux!!!!!!!
Anyway, XBox is a bit more complex than a GBA.
Wait bout 2-3 Jears.