Exactly. This isn't anti-wealthy we're talking here. I could care less about people driving expensive cars. The problem with the hummer is its an unnecessary large danger to others on the road, an unnecessary large source for wear on the roads, and an unnecessarily large drain on the environment. Hummers become an unnecessary burden on society.
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't tell already, Hummers are unnecessary.
First off, it doesn't take a hummer to deliver your new bigscreen HDTV. A pickup truck that doesn't weigh 8,000 pounds will suffice. One issue with vehicles like hummers is that 99% of the time its being used to carry one or two people, and next to no other cargo. You don't need the massive behemoth that is a hummer to do that. Even using hummers to deliver HDTVs, the world would surely need fewer of them than currently prowl the street.
I was merely implying that the parent (now great-grandparent) could have shortened his post to "You must be new here". Thats the normal way one responds to someone discovering that no one reads the articles on Slashdot. Of course, I'm sure I don't have to explain that to you, as you've got pretentious cynic thing down already, so you must not be new here.
Any application that is half decent is included with the major distros or available in binary? That seems like a rather fantastic claim. Someone should inform the people who make this CD diagnostics and ripping program, this telnet chat server, this bridge filter, and this billing system then, because they're obviously not making 'half decent' applications. Obviously, ymmv, but there are plenty of decent linux applications out there that are source-only distributions, and its silly to say otherwise.
I would hope so, but fundamentalists of all religions often have more trouble dealing with new things than other people when those things don't entirely mesh with their outlook on the universe. For the most part though, I'm sure you're right. I'd say most people, christians included, would have little trouble making their beliefs mesh with the existence of life outside our planet.
You keep parroting the same line and missing the same point. Users aren't going to stick to the major applications, and you can't expect every smaller one to be available to every distro in binary form. With Windows, this is not the case. The vast vast majority of programs that are available for Windows are available in binary form, no matter how small or large the project. If its not you're severely limiting your user base. If you think its FUD to say Windows or OS X users will have to compile their software on fewer occasions than Linux users you're simply mistaken.
That doesn't change the argument. Yes, some software will not work on all flavors of windows. Whats your point? The end user is still not doing the compiling.
As for finding a windows 9x copy of Skype, find me a linux or OS X copy of it eh? Was that hypocrisy that hard to spot, or are you simply trolling?
Bull. If you're lucky enough to have RPMs for your distro, thats great (although I've seen plenty of problems with RPMs), but we're talking desktop use here. There are plenty of apps desktop users will find and want to install that won't have binaries available for their setup. On the other hand, most Windows and Mac users expect their applications to be prebuilt (slightly less so perhaps for OS X). How many times have you seen a windows user forced to compile a program they downloaded as opposed to a linux user? FUD indeed.
*Cough* I said included. Unless I can install a fresh copy of Windows XX and compile something, its not included in the sense I was referring to, the sense GCC is included.
It's not quite fair to compare the M$ office installer to a network sniffer program you found for free on some h4x0r d00d's site.
I agree completely. However, and this isn't comparing apples to apples (as if you RTFA was what they were trying to do), when you do get free software for windows, it usually comes compiled and with an installer. There are a lot of reasons for this of course: no free compiler is included with windows, you can usually relatively easily make your compiled program run on any windows machine, windows users expect them to be this way, etc. This isn't a flaw so much as a difference, but for those who are used to having their programs come with simple GUI installers, Linux can be confusing and intimidating.
You're much more likely to have to use the./configure make make install to get software on linux than on OS X. Beyond that, as much progress as has occured to make installations easier for Linux, its not "drag to the programs folder" like it is on OS X.
I'm not sure I follow your logic. Gates' party involved him donating money to the NGA, who's party the following night had about 30 governors in attendance. Its therefor pretty safe to say they had a pretty big list of bigwigs there that they wanted to protect.
Also, perhaps you didn't read the Blog entry. The party-goers were ferried near Gates' estate by coach buses, so I'd say it was a pretty big party.
This guy changes stories more often than I change underwear (I know, I'm opening myself up for obvious jokes here). Not too long ago, he was blaming it on his father.
Lets see, he changes his story every couple days sooo... that makes you normal by/. standards.
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Seriously. This is just asking for a blatent misuse of mod points.
I'm just glad it's not under IT, or my eyes would melt.
Yeah, he must be new here.
Exactly. This isn't anti-wealthy we're talking here. I could care less about people driving expensive cars. The problem with the hummer is its an unnecessary large danger to others on the road, an unnecessary large source for wear on the roads, and an unnecessarily large drain on the environment. Hummers become an unnecessary burden on society.
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't tell already, Hummers are unnecessary.
First off, it doesn't take a hummer to deliver your new bigscreen HDTV. A pickup truck that doesn't weigh 8,000 pounds will suffice. One issue with vehicles like hummers is that 99% of the time its being used to carry one or two people, and next to no other cargo. You don't need the massive behemoth that is a hummer to do that. Even using hummers to deliver HDTVs, the world would surely need fewer of them than currently prowl the street.
Wow, way to miss what I was getting at.
I was merely implying that the parent (now great-grandparent) could have shortened his post to "You must be new here". Thats the normal way one responds to someone discovering that no one reads the articles on Slashdot. Of course, I'm sure I don't have to explain that to you, as you've got pretentious cynic thing down already, so you must not be new here.
Or, to put it more simply, you must be new here...
Any application that is half decent is included with the major distros or available in binary? That seems like a rather fantastic claim. Someone should inform the people who make this CD diagnostics and ripping program, this telnet chat server, this bridge filter, and this billing system then, because they're obviously not making 'half decent' applications. Obviously, ymmv, but there are plenty of decent linux applications out there that are source-only distributions, and its silly to say otherwise.
I would hope so, but fundamentalists of all religions often have more trouble dealing with new things than other people when those things don't entirely mesh with their outlook on the universe. For the most part though, I'm sure you're right. I'd say most people, christians included, would have little trouble making their beliefs mesh with the existence of life outside our planet.
You keep parroting the same line and missing the same point. Users aren't going to stick to the major applications, and you can't expect every smaller one to be available to every distro in binary form. With Windows, this is not the case. The vast vast majority of programs that are available for Windows are available in binary form, no matter how small or large the project. If its not you're severely limiting your user base. If you think its FUD to say Windows or OS X users will have to compile their software on fewer occasions than Linux users you're simply mistaken.
That doesn't change the argument. Yes, some software will not work on all flavors of windows. Whats your point? The end user is still not doing the compiling.
As for finding a windows 9x copy of Skype, find me a linux or OS X copy of it eh? Was that hypocrisy that hard to spot, or are you simply trolling?
Bull. If you're lucky enough to have RPMs for your distro, thats great (although I've seen plenty of problems with RPMs), but we're talking desktop use here. There are plenty of apps desktop users will find and want to install that won't have binaries available for their setup. On the other hand, most Windows and Mac users expect their applications to be prebuilt (slightly less so perhaps for OS X). How many times have you seen a windows user forced to compile a program they downloaded as opposed to a linux user? FUD indeed.
*Cough* I said included. Unless I can install a fresh copy of Windows XX and compile something, its not included in the sense I was referring to, the sense GCC is included.
I agree completely. However, and this isn't comparing apples to apples (as if you RTFA was what they were trying to do), when you do get free software for windows, it usually comes compiled and with an installer. There are a lot of reasons for this of course: no free compiler is included with windows, you can usually relatively easily make your compiled program run on any windows machine, windows users expect them to be this way, etc. This isn't a flaw so much as a difference, but for those who are used to having their programs come with simple GUI installers, Linux can be confusing and intimidating.
You're much more likely to have to use the ./configure make make install to get software on linux than on OS X. Beyond that, as much progress as has occured to make installations easier for Linux, its not "drag to the programs folder" like it is on OS X.
Sure you can do it that way with OS X, but its ready because you don't have to.
I'm not sure I follow your logic. Gates' party involved him donating money to the NGA, who's party the following night had about 30 governors in attendance. Its therefor pretty safe to say they had a pretty big list of bigwigs there that they wanted to protect.
Also, perhaps you didn't read the Blog entry. The party-goers were ferried near Gates' estate by coach buses, so I'd say it was a pretty big party.
I know I'm just asking for a brutal slashdotting on this one, but before my server melts, here's a mirror of the video.
Lets see, he changes his story every couple days sooo... that makes you normal by
Ahh man, did he die again?
Right, which is why I don't make sweeping statements about how the US would be better without the rest of the world.
The world doesn't like the US. We'd be better off without you.
/. right now, so I think we're better off.
Well, without the US you wouldn't be reading
Over the top? Nah. That would have been modded informative! And thats a moderation I can agree with. Now I just need $725...
Ahh, theres just something about a post recommending you to buy cocain being modded insightful that makes me love /.
I prefer the concept from Ender's Game, with the suits that freeze up when hit.