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Forged e-mails from Linus
"Here's a copy of an e-mail from Linus.
X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.transmeta.com: torvalds owned process doing -bs
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:31:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Fake emails from "Linus"
X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu
X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-kernel-outgoing-dig
X-UIDL: e42dadffdd3e89d559b44840e4ccea2a
Just a heads-up: somebody is sending out fake emails that claim to be from
me, and that have me endorsing the Java client for Seti@Home.
The reason I know somebody is faking emails is that I got a bounce from one of them.
If somebody on the kernel list gets a message that claims to be from "Linus Torvalds " with a subject line of "Seti@Home user interface", it is fake.
I'd like to see the full headers from such a message, to see if it shows where it is really originating from: the bounced message does not contain the original headers..
I assume it is a mass-posting trying to market Seti@Home or the particular client in question, and I'm not all that amused.
Linus
PS. Although I have to admit that the first line brought a grin: "Being the awesome Linux stud that I am.." "
How could anybody be tricked by such an obvious forgery? Anybody who knows anything about Linus or Linux would know that he would never stoop so low as to promote proprietary software or services. Well, not so far. He's still young. Maybe in twenty years he'll be a washed-out superstar like the sports heroes who can't swing a bat any more but can only tout products.
Well... just think: Who would benefit from such
endorsement? Like maybe with a large number of
hits or many downloads? Well?
There you have your answer.
Then again, it might have been Microsoft out to discredit Linux. Uh-huh.
This was posted as a comment two slashdot articles back.. geeeeesh...
Melissa only spreads to Prisoners of Bill. Real Programmers are immune.
And who would benefit from the invetiable backlash?
That too could be your (our?) answer.
Then again, maybe someone just wanted to be on slashdot...
As Richard has said many times in the past, it is better to flip hamburgers or rake leaves than it is to earn money from creating propietary software. Anyone who let's someone pay him to make software that isn't free has turned his back on free software, and his no better than a whore or a turncoat traitor.
Besides if your computer find something with:
1) seti- you get the Title of Co-discover of ET.
2) distrubited.net - you get a measly thousand bucks
we discover that, given enough computer power, a particular encrypted message is crackable.
Well DUH
when you get it. all they have to do is open the .doc file. At that time, they was considerd safe...
Sorry, but MS Word macro virii have been a known problem for a long time. Also for your information, most (arguably all) of the MS "Office" applications are capable of harboring virii-- so don't be too quick to open that Excel spreadsheets, etc, either.
As if the government cares...
The RC5 thing is just mental masturbation. We know it can be done. We're not likely to learn anything by doing it other than how to do widely distributed computing.
SETI, on the other hand, is honest-to-god science and as such, we learn something even if we find nothing. And finding "something" does not necessarily mean finding ETs. If I recall, they briefly thought pulsars were alien signals. Perhaps they'll find something that looks like an alien signal, but later turns out to be something natural, but wildly interesting. Who knows?
That's the whole point. With SETI, we may find something really interesting. With the RC5 thing, we know exactly what we'll find.
Linus has said at public debates (with Stallman) that he hopes to get rich off of proprietary software, and that is why he is at Transmeta. Get a clue. Why do you think Stallman hates him?
This is rather off topic, but it really bugs me when people talk about sending "e-mails". There is no 's' in the plural. It's just like the word "mail". One doesn't say "the mails must get through". You can talk about individual pieces of e-mail, but don't say "e-mails"; it's just incorrect grammar (an issue about which slashdot was recently chastised).
:-)
Now, "e-mail" vs. "email" is a whole different debate,
sam
Didn't Tom Christensen already prove that there are no virii? Or does this belong to the illiteracy thread?
> Linus should sue! Seriously.
I understand this is how things are done in USA. However, I don't think there's a case for sueing since e-mail forgery is not directly forbidden in law. If I want, I can write Bill Gates to my signature and there's nothing illegal about that. E-mail isn't protected as real letters are. And besides, Finnish people do not generally sue other for small things.
Fraud is still fraud.
RMS just wants everyone to realize how hard he has worked to create GNU/Linux.
I've heard teenage girls have more intelligent conversations about why luke perry is so hunky. could some of you idiots get back to work instead of argueing about who hates who. you aren't rms or linus so you haven't the slightest clue about what makes either of them tick. when will you people learn? worry about yourselves and do what's right according to you, quit trying to define other people that you don't know. jerkoffs.
The reason math is hard is that it is the most creative of human endeavours. And creativity is rarer than even intelligence. Computer programming is also a creative effort.
This could easily contain a trojan horse, couldn't it? You're no less vulnerable just because it is written in java.
Is anybody besides me wondering if this contains a trojan horse? It would help explain the close source and fraudulent publicity.
Remeber the Halloween docs ?
If you try to analize the OS software development
model, this is probably it's major weekness.
This is simply one possible way of breaking the confidence of users in Open Source products.
By forging emails, someone could insert a lot of "fake" patches into the kernel code, and create
security flaws.
This also applies to other OS software projects.
We must start using more stronger authentication procedures in the devellopment mailling lists.
No, he's not. Unless connecting to a site is now illegal? You know something I don't?
Non-free software is offense against your fellow man and your own integrity. Better to shovel shit.
Make the signed message a file and attach it. This is how PGP works with commercial email programs to prevent the message being abused by the POP3 baggage handlers. If you run into the problem of text attachments automatically being stuck into the message body, give the filename a bogus extension(to be renamed to the correct extension later). Of course this is a lot of bother: Hushmail works great, though it goes and does full-bore encryption instead of just signing, and also only works between fellow Hushmail users. ---forgot the password and changed ISP's. Now my name's taken by me and I can't give it back to myself. bummer.
I'll assume you ment 'like'
Did you mean "meant" or "mint"?
At that time, they was considerd safe...
Jesus wept. It's "considered", and THEY WERE considered safe, unless you're a Yank who thinks "they" is singular but unspecified.
Do you actually spend more than thirty seconds a month imagining that hobbyists are going to discover evidence of alien civilizations by tying up their computers crunching The Official Data?
I've had several visions including him and a crusified penguin
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Q uLXHxTrQIr8An1pD
Hash: SHA1
Anonymous Coward complained:
> We must start using more stronger authentication procedures in the
devellopment mailling lists.
Hmmm. Is he the real Anonymous Coward?
Or is he a shameless impostor?!?
He should have PGP-signed his message, but now he's too late!
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.5.3
Comment: You can get PGP outside the US at www.pgpi.com
iQA/AwUBN5UHlkkxC2Ww7jT6EQJ9ZwCfY4dLtVn2vxCEa3d
mjR9MSs8MhZLRmH3UrPxxIi1
=y78U
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Whoa cowboy, Who says Linus is creating proprietary software? He works for Transmeta, and the only statement anyone has been able to get out of them is they do "cool stuff". There is speculation they're creating a new processor because of their patent application, but that is ALL that is known. For all we know Linus is just leading a dev team to port Linux to this chipset. Damn people, show a little tolerance and kindness to your fellow man (in other words don't jump to conclusions).
I would like to point out that the fake mail was an endorsement of the Java seti@homeclient which is just a front end (one of many such homemade front ends)for the actual client distributed by the SETI folks.. I don't think it's fair to blame them.. that is, unless you're blaming them for bringing SETI to the masses.. that's about as far as their involvement goes in all of this. *two cents go plink*
Just for the record, would you be so kind as to provide sources for your claims that (a) Linus hopes to get rich off of proprietary software, and (b) Stallman hates Linus? I just hate jumping to conclusions about a man's character based solely on the word of Anonymous Coward. Thanks in advance,
-jcc
Really, I think Linus has defended himself fairly well already. Just ask yourself:
What did those people hope you would think about them by having 'Linus' endorse their product?
Now that Linus has exposed the sham, what do you think of them?
show the US Government that better encryption is needed.
Deep Crack already demonstrated that very nicely. Add to that the paper on RC6 (today's /.) and there's little point in actually crunching a test key. If the cracking teams really want government attention, they should go to work on an encrypted bank transaction. That would force the government to admit it's true opinion on the security of current key sizes.
You're probably right in that it wouldn't be a wise thing to sue, in this case, but Linus -has- taken legal action before, such as when some lunatic over in Boston, USA, patented Linux, I believe, and then tried demainding money from Linus, Red Hat, etc.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Actually is was a trademark. A number of people got involved, attempting to have the trademark revoked. The final result was a reassignment to Linus.
Hal Duston
hald@sound.net
I am not saying that math is all useless just extremely difficult to understand
difficult for you...
people in areas of pure math (where most of cs started) do not really think about how to apply this knowledge to anything really useful to most.
You really don't know what your talking about here. Just because *you* can't figure out math doesn't mean that it's useless. I think because... you can't figure out math you think it's useless. If you knew anything about math you know that looking for a "useful" purpose for it is pointless. A useful purpose will find the math or it won't.
There wasn't a good use for Boolean Algebra for a long time, then computers came around. I guess Boole should have waited a hundred years. Damm that smart ass!
IMHO CS Majors could use a lot more Math and English experience.
Linux is only free if your time has no value. Windows is only free if you threaten to use Linux.
That has to be one of the worst possible reasons for choosing that I can think of. If you want to do rc64 because you think that's more worthwhile, more power to you, but just because somebody (And we don't even know at this point if it was anybody directly involved with the project or not) did something really stupid is the wrong reason to do anything. The last thing we should be doing is letting the lowest common denominator make our decisions for us.
Shawn Asmussen
Maybe it's someone from Distributed.net trying to discredit Seti....
I don't know about SETI, but RC5 also has a monetary prize.
But anyways, how many of you trust that you'll be told if and when your SETI@Home client discovers what might be alien life? The client could just be written to return a false negative while alarms ring at the gov'ment offices.
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Aaron Gaudio
"The fool finds ignorance all around him.
"Every man is a mob, a chain gang of idiots." - Jonathan Nolan, Memento Mori
Of course, RMS, having a Genius Award and thus not having to flip hamburgers or rake leaves is in no position to make that call. He has, however, been paid (quite handsomely) for contract work. There is no evidence that Linus is working on proprietary code so just the fact that he is getting paid to code does not mean the code will not be released under a free software license. It doesn't seem that Transmeta, presumably being a chip design company, would have a need for a lot of proprietary code.
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Aaron Gaudio
"The fool finds ignorance all around him.
"Every man is a mob, a chain gang of idiots." - Jonathan Nolan, Memento Mori
Even many of the so-called anonymous remailers keep the information from clients and will and have released such information to law enforcement. They probably can't afford defending against criminal charges (founded or not) and they would probably be subjected to blackholing (that is, other ISPs refuse to route to them).
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Aaron Gaudio
"The fool finds ignorance all around him.
"Every man is a mob, a chain gang of idiots." - Jonathan Nolan, Memento Mori
So humour doesn't exist in your reality ?
That would be sad.
> such as when some lunatic over in Boston, USA, patented Linux, I believe, and then tried demainding money from Linus, Red Hat, etc.
It was not a patent, it was a copyright. But the guy did attempt to enforce his copyright on the term, by sending threatening letters to all of the major distributors (but not Linus).
Cheers
Eric Geyer
You can always do the obvious thing: write the email in a text editor, sign it, and then paste it into the web form. Unfortunately, the email service may munge your messages, making the signature invalid; but this is just something you're going to have to try to find out.
Regarding signing email, some of us almost _always_ sign emails and news postings; using Gnus under Emacs makes this very easy -- C-c C-/ C-s (or H-s, as one of my keyboard shortcuts). If anyone ever receives an unsigned email from "me," they should be suspicious...
Kyle
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Use GnuPG, not PGP -- support free software. I use GnuPG exclusively, and since it's OpenPGP compliant, it interoperates with PGP 5 without any problems -- you can even use the same keyring files.
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No I am not saying that math is all useless just extremely difficult to understand (how many nice glossy textbooks have you seen on hyperdementional geometery).
Your logic seems "hyperdementional"[sic]. So ... math is not simple. What difference does it make if it can't be put in books with pretty pictures?
And I am not saying that computers are useless (they do some rather interesting things) it is that people in areas of pure math (where most of cs started) do not really think about how to apply this knowledge to anything really useful to most.
I see ... so ... the "mathematical elite" have been using computers for their own purposes (more digits of PI) and not doing things that the masses want (AI, as you gave as an example in an earlier post)?
Problem is, we already know how to compute PI -- we do not know how to make a complete AI. You seem to be under the illusion that the computing resources going into, say, computing PI, could go into creating an AI instead, as if AI were as trivial a problem as PI. There are actually a LOT of the "mathematical elite" spending every waking hour of their lives on the problems with AI. Actually developing the theory necessary to make an AI requires more human talent and education (mathematical and more) than it does computing time, so you may as well compute PI while you're waiting, instead of letting the machines go to waste.
It wasn't until the math requirement went down that a person could really do anything in cs without a Phd.
Problems don't get magically less complex just because less skilled people are thrown at them. But nooo... math is hard ... the people who know it should just get out of the way and let the rest of us try to implement an AI using bogo-sort, right?
There's a box in front of you right now, my friend. Nobody's denying you access to it. Go ahead, get all your like-minded friends together and make an AI. Write an RC5-like system to run it. Thanks to RMS, you have free (libre+gratis) tools availible to you. Go on, already! Where's that AI?
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DNA just wants to be free...
You shouldn't bad mouth a project just because you don't agree with it. I happen to think RC5 is a waste of time, but I don't have a go at the poeple running the clients. It's their choice, the same as it's mine to run the SETI client.
SETI is big news at the moment. I would surmise that this is the reason this particular project is getting so much bad attention. It has a lot of good things going on too though.
How does the old saying go? "There's a sucker born every minute." Well, on the Internet, it's more like every 10ms.
You and I may have been on the Internet for years (I started reading Net News more than ten years ago), and know that 95% of everything on the Net is pure crud, but there are thousands of newbies flooding the Internet every day, and many of them are still under the illusion that, "If it's on the computer, it MUST be true!"
Your Servant, B. Baggins
Despite the fact that I'd love to have Linus working here at VA, I'm actually rather glad that he *doesn't* work for a Linux company. As for the tired proprietary source argument -- I'd love to hear the argument that all closed source is necessarily a Bad Thing. I need a good laugh about now. Note: I make my living with Open Source, in this particular case with the Linux/IA64 port.
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Maybe instead of interpreting this incident as a rallying cry to the mass lynching of forgers and spammers, we should think of it as a reminder of why it's good to use digital signatures for authentication.
spawn_of_yog_sothoth
The guy wrote a clone of Unix (which I'm surprised he didn't get sued for doing) with great organization and happened to release it freely so other Unix lovers could use it also. This meant hacking your own drivers for the hardware but in time people cover those faster then you can so you just use theirs.
Not to be pedantic, he did not get sued because Linux is a cleanroom implementation of the POSIX standard, not a recreation of any particular Unix system.
Reverse engineering is legal if you don't have access to the source...
BTW, your point was well taken. I don't mean to shift the topic of your argument.
Ethan
Wouldn't that be a pretty good opportunity for Linus and anyone of us who cares about such things to start using some Pretty Good Privacy (international edition only, please - let us see the anticrypto paranoids prove everybody is a terrorist) generated signature?
Secure webmail:0 02
http://www.hushmail.com/
http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19990526S0
I do not use any of these services, but they seem to be a good place to start. Hushmail's source code is available.
You mean, figuring what pattern will be used to generate a valid key? Sure, that's legal. Using it to get around licensing restrictions isn't though, and handing out a program that can do that might or might not be, depending on how provable intent is...of course, last I heard, some software companies were trying to make any reverse engineering illegal, I don't know how that's doing.
If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
Geez man,
Linus ain't some god or something... just a guy who used his brain and happened to be in the right place at the right time.
I appreciate his efforts and linux a lot, but if Linus would die tomorrow, the show would go on.
Faking someone's email address sure is lame. It happens. Life goes on. Big deal.
I never like the project and the people running it. Now look at what all this little alien fanatics are doing to ruin a good guy's name. I'm not saying ALL seti@home participants are idiots, but it sure does seem like the whole project is a big joke at times for a lotta people. There's that darned "hacker mentality" again... :)
Contrary to popular belief in the Linux community, Linus is NOT God.
:-)
:-)
The guy wrote a clone of Unix (which I'm surprised he didn't get sued for doing) with great organization and happened to release it freely so other Unix lovers could use it also. This meant hacking your own drivers for the hardware but in time people cover those faster then you can so you just use theirs.
Face it people, Linus isn't a god, just a very organized and generous (for releasing it to the public) guy.
I'm not insulting him or Linux, just bringing up a point that has bugged me a few times.
8Complex
P.S. - This is along those lines of Windows lovers saying Bill Gates was god.
You're confusing yourself with a bad analogy. The simple facts are: the plural of letter is letters; the plural of mail is mail, not mails. 'The mail must get through' is the same as 'the messages or letters must get through.' Your argument regarding service vs. piece of mail is shown bogus by referring to "pieces of e-mail." If the word were not already plural, you would not need to clarify your meaning this way.
teasea's tedious 2 worth
And if RMS told you to jump off of a bridge would you? A few points: First, RMS is fallable. Second, do we actually know that Linus is working on proprietary software at Transmeta? Last I checked all we know about Transmeta is they are producing something that probally deals with emulation, but that might be 100% off. Third, saying Linus has turned his back on free software is just plain stupid. He hasn't sold the linux kernel to any company (not like he could even if he wanted to). He even made sure that his contract allows him time to work on Linux. Also, I remember reading something where Linus said he never wanted to be paid to work on Linux since there was a potential for a conflict of interests if his boss wants feature X, and Linus doesn't think it's a good idea.
-matt
Look for the picture of him in his saint iGNUtious (or whatever it was) costume, or listen to his "free hackers" song, or read www.gnu.org. The man lost touch with reality years ago.
-matt
I'm guessing that RMS hates Linus because Linus is more popular than RMS. I think the whole GNU/Linux thing is proof of that. RMS doesn't care about free software, he cares about his movement, and it pisses him off that someone else is managing to steal the spot light w/o doing any publicity stunts.
-matt
Just shows you how popular Linus has become, and how much power he has behind him now!
Anybody got those headers? Lets find the little bastard and give his server the Slashdot effect.
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Byron Ray
"The code I write borders on black magic. Modify it at your own peril."
Re: Human Race 35K years old...
I think ol' boy meant the oft quoted age of human civilization. Like, before the Tigris and Euphrates civilization. N' stuff.
Ok, so how many people think that Linus was stoned out of his gourd and actually sent the email?
I can just see it now. He goes to Phantom Menace, gets all psyched up on finding aliens, goes home....
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2B1ASK1
Human race is 35K year old? Homo sapiens? Where did you get this info?
While the project has had some flaws, excoriating it for its fringe lamer proponents is a little unfair. Where have we seen that before?
Lets see - 7/18 an article about JSetiTracker shows up on Slashdot - 7/19 a fake Linus spam shows up. Possible connection?
You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
Linus is not in anything just for the money at all. However he *does* have responsibilities that require money (wife and children to support, pay his own bills, etc). He has in no way given the kernel sources to god ol' BG and company or sold anyone out. I think it's admirable that he has been able to get a job for himself to allow him to be able to keep developing Linux.
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic --Joseph Stalin
The only use that could have would be to exploit microsoft apps and related data or to garner info from cookies in some way. This has no real effect on me.
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic --Joseph Stalin
Yeah but that opens up a real problem with most people namely that you have to go through them to get any info. Who says that anyone will do anything? Is it against the law if they don't? Can they be held for similar charges in assisting with libel?
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic --Joseph Stalin
No I am not saying that math is all useless just extremely difficult to understand (how many nice glossy textbooks have you seen on hyperdementional geometery). And I am not saying that computers are useless (they do some rather interesting things) it is that people in areas of pure math (where most of cs started) do not really think about how to apply this knowledge to anything really useful to most. That really bites. It wasn't until the math requirement went down that a person could really do anything in cs without a Phd.
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic --Joseph Stalin
Please explain how he is insane? I think he is just a person who has political views that are good for a person who is in debate circles (Lincoln-Dogulas). As I was instructed in debate you are to never, never, never, agree to anything that the opponent says even if they say that objects fall down due to the force of gravity otherwise they will pick you apart completely.
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic --Joseph Stalin
Basically I think that everything that is currently done with distributed computing is a waste of time in one way or another due to the lack of a way to generically impliment distributed computing solutions for something interesting like perhaps an ai system, the human genome project, etc. Basically most of computer science was (and still is) linked to the a verry large ammount of mathmetical knowledge at it's core. How many math problems are considered pointless? Most of them. How many of these projects are pointless due to the same methods? Most. Not to say that cracking cyphers and finding out about intelligent life are not interesting but most of the time I think that people can do better. The future of space travel to the level that Star Trek has would be most likely in the 10,987th century and not the 24th at the rate that we progress. I really don't think that the Vulcans will contact us.
The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of a million is a statistic --Joseph Stalin
Why do viruses lime "Melissa" spread so fast? .doc file. At that time, they was considerd safe...
I'll assume you ment 'like'
Melissa requires no human intervention. if you have anyone in your outlook address book, they'll get it sent to them when you get it. all they have to do is open the
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"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
at times like this, its helpfull to remember that, while a brilliant coder, and a great leader, RMS is completly insain
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"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
cut 'n' paste
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"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
he future of space travel to the level that Star Trek has would be most likely in the 10,987th century and not the 24th at the rate that we progress
what?
what frame of refrence do you have for guaging technological advancement over 10,987,000 years? the human race itself is only about 35,000 years old. all of recorded history is only a few thousand. 300 years ago there was no industrial capability *at all* 80 years ago, there was no computer tehcnology *at all* 35 years ago there were no microprocesors.
Basically most of computer science was (and still is) linked to the a verry large ammount of mathmetical knowledge at it's core. How many math problems are considered pointless? Most of them.
this makes even less sense. Are you saying computers are useless? most of the math i've ever seen has been pretty usefull. have you ever taken calculis, or physics? the stuff you can do when you know that stuff is simply amazing.
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"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
I know that it's a long shot, but if it's the only shot you have, it doesn't cost anything to try..
:o)
Yeah but that opens up a real problem with most people namely that you have to go through them to get any info.
Yes, but if you don't have the headers, it's better than nothing..
Who says that anyone will do anything?
There's no guarantee that anyone will do anything, but if you don't ask, you're guaranteed that they they won't... (it's like the lottery - you can't win if you don't buy a ticket
Most ISP's are anti-spam, so it stands to reason that they might be inclined to help..
It is possible to trace an email back to the originating server, :o) .. ask the sysadmin for that server (hopefully s/he's a :o) to parse his/her sendmail logs and find out where it
assuming that you have the co-operation of the sysadmins of the relay
at the other end; he knows from where the bounce originated, and
(probably) has the message ID (but if not, he has the 'source' email
address
Linux user
came from.
i can see zdnet picking this one up.
the headline could read:
Stoned Linux inventer, invites followers to help look for aliens...
nmarshall
#include "standard_disclaimer.h"
R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
nmarshall
The law is that which it boldly asserted and plausibly maintained..
--Colonel Burr 1783
There's been such a large clash over which client is best to "give" my spare cycles to. Whoever did this, be it a SETI developer, or just a stupid kid, is simply discrediting SETI, and making a fool of him/herself.
This is the final decider for me.
Distributed.net all the way baby!
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With Disney or Bill Gates to give away thousands of dollars and a trip to Disney world... in HONG KONG!? cooooool......
Sounds like seti@linus is about to become another e-mail legend.
My cube. My friend. My solace. My prison.
Might this forged spam indicate that someone has found a security exploit in the Java client???
Bad people usually do bad things for a reason.
Just thinking out loud... I'm not a Java programmer.
Miow...
NOOO !!! How could the evil ones blaspheme so upon our Holinous of The Kernel... I can only pray that such an event never happens again.
Is nothing sacred ?
Congrats to Linus; I once tried to be a Unix stud but got caught in a conundrum.
And if I happen to crack that one special RC5 block then I've got a few grand to buy some new hardware. Besides, distributed.net's numbers are bigger. :)
--- Bigger bits, softer blocks, tighter ASCII.
Heh heh. Something that would be really funny:
They find the guy, and find out he sent the email from an M$ Exchange server. Ha ha ha!
That's as funny as http://homepages.msn.com using Apache,
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Christopher Richard
There seems to be some demand for Linus to become a pitchman or spokesperson for some products. Maybe he could get an infomercial or go on the Shopping Channel and start selling stuff.
"Sick of the Colonel's Secret Recipe? Do you Big Macs make you feel crashed and bloated?" Try Kernel Linus' Chicken Wings. Our recipe is open sourced, and is constantly tuned and adjusted by legions of cooks and butcher's.
Linus' Chicken could even have several distributions going for it... each with their own angle. Some aimed for the business crowd, some aimed at student hipsters.
gutterface
who dislikes seti enuf to commit this kind of fraud?
incognito
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It would increase my respect. Identity theft, fraud, defense of one's rights and honor are just the kind of things to "get all governmental about". If the gov't doesn't exist to protect individuals then what good is it?
I often wonder how many (if any) violations of individual rights perpetrated by Microsoft are ignored by focusing on the bogus anti-trust laws.
Linus should sue! Seriously. He's probably the only person in the Linux world who can more or less demand 100% respect - if he's seen to endorse something, then it must be good. I mean, if a "stud like him" likes it...
...Student, Artist, Techie - Geek *
Hmm, whoever did this mustn't have a great deal of confidence in the project. Why else would they do this? Unless it was f*cking excellent and they wanted the world to know about it.
Urgh. I'm all confused.
Mong.
* Paul Madley
*...Slacker, Artist, Techie - Geek *
Remember: Nothing is Cool.
>Linus has said at public debates (with Stallman) that he hopes to get rich off of proprietary software, and that is why he is at Transmeta. Get a clue. Why do you think Stallman hates him?
Do you have a reference that backs up this statement?