And I could show you more videos where cops are shot or killed because someone they pulled over suddenly attacked. No wonder they're on edge. Every single stop is a potential threat. Hindsight is wonderful, and it's easy to say that this or that wasn't a serious threat after the fact. Sure some cops are assholes, and that's a fact, but don't give them a reason to escalate it. If you're stopped, do what they say, and don't fight back. Don't give them a mouthful of shit. Don't wave around a weapon or what appears to be a weapon, and the likelihood of injury or death is dramatically reduced. Is this so hard to understand, or are we all on the "cops are killer assholes" bandwagon?
I mentioned the rap sheets because up until the recent public deaths of Brown, Garner, and Gray, this was nowhere near the issue is suddenly is now. I never said "all". But as long you're looking into the statistics of who got killed by police, go ahead and look again, and see how many of those have previous arrests and histories of legal trouble.
My point is, the average slashdot nerd here who gets pulled over for speeding or something isn't going to get shot to death if he/she just behaves normally.
Lastly, "unarmed man" doesn't necessarily mean anything. In some cases it does, but not all, not necessarily. Example: a perp can be "unarmed", but if he's physically assaulting the officer, grabbing for his gun, he can damn well expect to get shot. And cops are trained to only use the weapon for deadly force, otherwise leave it holstered. In those cases "unarmed" is largely meaningless, as the "unarmed" guy was desperately attempting to change his status to armed and dangerous.
I'm not saying it never happens, I'm just saying it shouldn't be "not unexpected". It's not the norm, not statistically, not realistically. Far more people die every year in a car crash; do we get in our cars everyday expecting to be killed in it?
Mike Brown, Eric Garner, and Freddie Gray all had numerous previous arrests. In Brown's case,it's foggier because he'd only just turned 18 and juvenile records are difficult to get in Missouri, but considering he'd just held up a store owner 20 minutes earlier, he was hardly a model citizen.
You guys are hilarious. Did you not see the post I replied to?
"The biggest risk to you is that you die. Less likely than being arrested and having to spend money on a lawyer and so on, but piss off the wrong cop in America and ending up shot, choked to death, beaten to death, etc isn't an unexpected outcome."
This is the lie. It *is* an unexpected outcome. Not an impossible one unfortunately, but how many arrests in the US in the past 18 months have resulted in a death, as a percentage of total arrests? -especially those arrests where no one was resisting arrest or fighting the officer, then they're even more rare.
Y'all are painting with a mighty broad brush.. a brush made of straw.
The ones who died at the hands of the cops are those with multiple infractions and long rap sheets who physically resisted arrest.
THAT IS A LIE, AND YOU ARE A LIAR. Counterexample: Tamir Rice.
.."Or waved around what appeared to be a weapon and refused to drop it when ordered to do so."..
And you are a capital abusing mouthbreather.
Major reading comprehension fail. Even so, one incident hardly sets a standard. How many people in the US are arrested daily? How many result in deaths? Let's not act like interaction with a cop, even an arrest, is a death sentence, statistically that's just not so, not even close.
Don't be so melodramatic. The ones who died at the hands of the cops are those with multiple infractions and long rap sheets who physically resisted arrest. Or waved around what appeared to be a weapon and refused to drop it when ordered to do so.
Don't resist arrest, don't get into a wrestling match with a cop; especially don't make a grab for his gun, and you will have nearly zero chance of getting killed or abused.
That all said, we all certainly have a right to record anything in public, and no cop should tell you otherwise. Hell, it might even be to their benefit sometimes, as a lot of videos don't supply full context or show the events leading up to an arrest.
I'm surprised it took so long for such learned men (and women) to figure that out. I get elusive, I get intermittent... but still.. 17 freaking years. They already knew it mainly happened during office hours, that should have been a good place to start.
My thoughts exactly, on just about every billing error ever.
How often do you hear of (or more likely, have experienced) a billing error that benefits the customer? Not very damned often. Granted, if/when it does happen, it's likely the benefactor keeps his mouth shut so you don't hear of it happening as much, but then again, OTOH when they get "caught" (you know the accountants will track those errors down eventually), that nullifies it anyway. Yet I bet nearly every one of us has dealt with at least one error or oversight that benefits the company, anything from an overcharge to even just refusing to honor (or losing) a coupon or rebate, and they had no intention of addressing it on their own.
Bottom line is, these things aren't errors so much as they are, at worst, malicious and deliberate, to at best, "yeah we suspect something is off but it's not hurting us so let's not look too closely into that".
Wow, completely ignores Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, etc.. Iran engages in war and unrest via proxy. This is their best strategy at the current time. Given nuclear capability, that changes the game and thus likely their strategy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...
Fine, the Heartland institute, a well known fossil fuel propaganda production facility, made baseless criticisms on the Pope, invoking several of their well known fallacies, lies and distortions.
Aren't we tiring of the over-sensationalistic verbiage yet? Did they mob they guy and hit him with clubs and kick him ? Beat him up? Isn't "attacked" over the top?..or of course, that's the point. Everything these days is an "attack"; we see headlines like "Bush *slams* Obama, or "Obama *destroys* Boehner", when it was really nothing like that.. it's really getting kind of 3rd grade mentality, yellow journalism is enjoying quite the resurgence.
Actually I got that from the description in the app itself.
Lag Fix says, when you run it, that "Every memory chip require trimming in one way or another, it's like defragmentation for hard drives." So I guess more similar in results than actual execution.
My bad. I probably mischaracterized it, but that was based on someone else's description of what it does.
I know that it helps though, at least for a couple of weeks or more.
I just looked in the Best Buy flyer this past Sunday, and got sticker shock when I saw the price for a Nexus 9.
I'll soon be in the market for a new tab, as my old 1st gen Nexus 7 is just annoying anymore (and I've rooted it and frozen a lot of the supposed bloatware). but now I don't know what to even look for. I really didn't want an iPad. I already have an iPhone, which I like, but I wanted one foot in both worlds.
Even KitKat 4.4 can be atrocious on my original Nexus7. Though I've found thing that helps tremendously, at least for a while, is an app called "Lag Fix", which defrags the memory apparently.
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And I could show you more videos where cops are shot or killed because someone they pulled over suddenly attacked. No wonder they're on edge. Every single stop is a potential threat. Hindsight is wonderful, and it's easy to say that this or that wasn't a serious threat after the fact. Sure some cops are assholes, and that's a fact, but don't give them a reason to escalate it. If you're stopped, do what they say, and don't fight back. Don't give them a mouthful of shit. Don't wave around a weapon or what appears to be a weapon, and the likelihood of injury or death is dramatically reduced. Is this so hard to understand, or are we all on the "cops are killer assholes" bandwagon?
I mentioned the rap sheets because up until the recent public deaths of Brown, Garner, and Gray, this was nowhere near the issue is suddenly is now. I never said "all". But as long you're looking into the statistics of who got killed by police, go ahead and look again, and see how many of those have previous arrests and histories of legal trouble.
My point is, the average slashdot nerd here who gets pulled over for speeding or something isn't going to get shot to death if he/she just behaves normally.
Lastly, "unarmed man" doesn't necessarily mean anything. In some cases it does, but not all, not necessarily. Example: a perp can be "unarmed", but if he's physically assaulting the officer, grabbing for his gun, he can damn well expect to get shot. And cops are trained to only use the weapon for deadly force, otherwise leave it holstered. In those cases "unarmed" is largely meaningless, as the "unarmed" guy was desperately attempting to change his status to armed and dangerous.
I'm not saying it never happens, I'm just saying it shouldn't be "not unexpected". It's not the norm, not statistically, not realistically. Far more people die every year in a car crash; do we get in our cars everyday expecting to be killed in it?
Actually, I didn't omit that. It's in my original post.
One or two cases are exceptions, not the rule.
Mike Brown, Eric Garner, and Freddie Gray all had numerous previous arrests. In Brown's case,it's foggier because he'd only just turned 18 and juvenile records are difficult to get in Missouri, but considering he'd just held up a store owner 20 minutes earlier, he was hardly a model citizen.
You guys are hilarious. Did you not see the post I replied to?
"The biggest risk to you is that you die. Less likely than being arrested and having to spend money on a lawyer and so on, but piss off the wrong cop in America and ending up shot, choked to death, beaten to death, etc isn't an unexpected outcome."
This is the lie. It *is* an unexpected outcome. Not an impossible one unfortunately, but how many arrests in the US in the past 18 months have resulted in a death, as a percentage of total arrests? -especially those arrests where no one was resisting arrest or fighting the officer, then they're even more rare.
Y'all are painting with a mighty broad brush.. a brush made of straw.
THAT IS A LIE, AND YOU ARE A LIAR. Counterexample: Tamir Rice.
.."Or waved around what appeared to be a weapon and refused to drop it when ordered to do so."..
And you are a capital abusing mouthbreather.
Major reading comprehension fail. Even so, one incident hardly sets a standard. How many people in the US are arrested daily? How many result in deaths? Let's not act like interaction with a cop, even an arrest, is a death sentence, statistically that's just not so, not even close.
Don't be so melodramatic. The ones who died at the hands of the cops are those with multiple infractions and long rap sheets who physically resisted arrest. Or waved around what appeared to be a weapon and refused to drop it when ordered to do so.
Don't resist arrest, don't get into a wrestling match with a cop; especially don't make a grab for his gun, and you will have nearly zero chance of getting killed or abused.
That all said, we all certainly have a right to record anything in public, and no cop should tell you otherwise. Hell, it might even be to their benefit sometimes, as a lot of videos don't supply full context or show the events leading up to an arrest.
Is all the damn vampires.
Okay, okay, actually that was the fictional town of Santa Carla, but that's a mere anagram away.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...
I'm surprised it took so long for such learned men (and women) to figure that out. I get elusive, I get intermittent... but still.. 17 freaking years. They already knew it mainly happened during office hours, that should have been a good place to start.
That might've been an honest mistake..? It's not like they get commission or anything. Who knows.
My thoughts exactly, on just about every billing error ever.
How often do you hear of (or more likely, have experienced) a billing error that benefits the customer? Not very damned often. Granted, if/when it does happen, it's likely the benefactor keeps his mouth shut so you don't hear of it happening as much, but then again, OTOH when they get "caught" (you know the accountants will track those errors down eventually), that nullifies it anyway. Yet I bet nearly every one of us has dealt with at least one error or oversight that benefits the company, anything from an overcharge to even just refusing to honor (or losing) a coupon or rebate, and they had no intention of addressing it on their own.
Bottom line is, these things aren't errors so much as they are, at worst, malicious and deliberate, to at best, "yeah we suspect something is off but it's not hurting us so let's not look too closely into that".
Wow, completely ignores Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, etc.. Iran engages in war and unrest via proxy. This is their best strategy at the current time. Given nuclear capability, that changes the game and thus likely their strategy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...
By what skewed metric? The economy and unemployment continued to suck for years past 2009.
Fine, the Heartland institute, a well known fossil fuel propaganda production facility, made baseless criticisms on the Pope, invoking several of their well known fallacies, lies and distortions.
There, was that so hard? :)
Aren't we tiring of the over-sensationalistic verbiage yet? Did they mob they guy and hit him with clubs and kick him ? Beat him up? Isn't "attacked" over the top? ..or of course, that's the point. Everything these days is an "attack"; we see headlines like "Bush *slams* Obama, or "Obama *destroys* Boehner", when it was really nothing like that.. it's really getting kind of 3rd grade mentality, yellow journalism is enjoying quite the resurgence.
Actually I got that from the description in the app itself.
Lag Fix says, when you run it, that "Every memory chip require trimming in one way or another, it's like defragmentation for hard drives." So I guess more similar in results than actual execution.
My bad. I probably mischaracterized it, but that was based on someone else's description of what it does.
I know that it helps though, at least for a couple of weeks or more.
I just looked in the Best Buy flyer this past Sunday, and got sticker shock when I saw the price for a Nexus 9.
I'll soon be in the market for a new tab, as my old 1st gen Nexus 7 is just annoying anymore (and I've rooted it and frozen a lot of the supposed bloatware). but now I don't know what to even look for. I really didn't want an iPad. I already have an iPhone, which I like, but I wanted one foot in both worlds.
Even KitKat 4.4 can be atrocious on my original Nexus7. Though I've found thing that helps tremendously, at least for a while, is an app called "Lag Fix", which defrags the memory apparently.
We all should be. There's still a shred of sanity in this country.
and zombie dragons!
Well, this is good news for the Librarian I guess, though the wizards at UU seem to treat him pretty humanely already anyway.
Who cares? :) That's not one of the problems they had. Suffice to say the issues they had were clearly local.
I second this.