You might as well argue that everyone dump HTML in favor of a better application development environment not based on an utter mishmash of technologies.
I've never heard of an OS maker having to crawl to Adobe to request a plugin, in point of fact - Adobe has been trying to get a flash player on iOS for years.
Don't get me wrong, I have an iPad2 (I'm getting a wifi only Xoom later this month) and it's great and seems to beat Xoom in quite a few areas, but I cannot fathom how you can compare their web experiences and call them equivalent when flash still doesn't exist on iOS due to Jobs' ridiculous ego.
Yes, you can go buy straight from the farm (or hire someone to build your furniture); however, this is what people in the market are trying to do but can't.
The analogy would be similar to someone telling a farmer "hey, I like your prices I've seen right now so I'd like a few dozen eggs..." and the farmer puts the eggs on the truck for delivery; unfortunately the trucking company stops by the docks where men of dubious and flexible morals are standing around and they buy YOUR eggs off the truck driver but don't take them off the truck because they don't want them, they just want to squeeze a little extra money off of you so they raise the price a bit.
In other words, you believe you are dealing directly with the farmer but you're actually getting screwed by the trucking company and the men whose moral standings are lying down...
...get the entire area around my neighborhood listed as having 10mbps-25mbps speeds when they have repeatedly informed me that there is no possible option above 1.5mbps download in my area... Hmmm... Did the government just grab this data from their marketing info? LOL...
I don't need your help, I didn't ask anyone for help, and I certainly wouldn't entertain help from someone like yourself.
I know exactly what the issue is and I've debugged the problem perfectly well. Just because I didn't explain every single thing I did doesn't mean I didn't do anything. You seem to think you're on some help AVS forum where someone posted a 'help me' query. You're not. You're on slashdot where someone made a post complaining about some of the implementations of HDCP by the industry, someone who knows what they're doing.
'Fancy-pants' tv? What are you, 12? LOL.
I bet an inordinately large number of your interactions with people online end this way - while your real space interactions are simple awkward and silently fill you with misdirected rage...
What part of this are you missing? I didn't get some random
weird issues which HDCP and HDMI sometimes include [sic]
, I got a very specific error message from the Motorola Cable box that I researched for possible causes and discovered was related to the number of HDCP devices that are connected 'downstream.' I'm not quite sure how you missed that.
Nope, the cable box told me I was pirating, almost literally - "your HDCP has been comprimised" et cetera. The worst part is that the cable people seem to know absolutely nothing about this problem; however, I think it will be something they run into more and more in the future.
...are legitimate users of video content, sometimes even when it isn't hi def...
My setup is a total pain in the a** because of HDCP.
I wanted to do something really simple this summer - show my cable box feed on the TV in our home gym (a glorified name for room with treadmill in it), so I looked at my options:
(1)Get another Cable box for that TV - no, I'm not interested in paying another $15/month just so I can watch TV in a room for an hour every other day. (2)Run yet another HDMI cable to the TV - this was not really an option since it would be 35 feet from the cable box with various openings between the box and the destination TV - ergo, expensive, mess, and requiring HDMI amplifies and extremely long cable runs. (3)Go wireless and get an Air Synch HD (or something similar) - up front cost is not cheap, but no new cables, no new box, only turn it on when I want, et cetera.
So, I get my new wireless HDMI system in, yay! Looks cool, setup seems simple - so I try it out. Cool, XBox 360 play over it just fine, BluRay player works over it just fine, cable box? Oh, whoops, green screen on cable. Never seen that before.
So, long story short, it turns out there's this little feature of HDCP that is only just now starting to bite people in the a** called "downstream devices." Apparently, a source device using HDCP can restrict the number OF HDCP CAPABLE DEVICES that can be chained together to get to your TV or projector. Note that it is a restriction on LEGITIMATE HDCP licensed devices ffs. Most HDCP capable devices have a somewhat large number of possible downstream devices (there's no requirement in the standard - the bastards) but some of them just one or two. This means that if you connect your source device, such as my Motorola DVR, to a receiver (which counts as an HDCP device in this chain) and your projector connects to the receiver you've maxed out the number of devices.
Along comes some poor schmuck (me in this scenario) and puts a wireless HDMI transmitter between my TV and my receiver - *bang* the cable box says "you're trying to pirate my HDCP encrypted signal, I will show you a green screen."
Do they really think they're preventing movie piracy when someone can simply use some soldering tools and an programmable gate array and components available over the internet and strip HDCP? Hell, you can buy HDFury and setup a good recording system.
The only people they're actually screwing are people like me who sit around for 15 seconds waiting for all their HDCP devices to decide to get along and show video and/or audio.
(BTW, I simply connected the cable box to the receiver with component cables and optical audio - but I guess that solution will be on its way to the trash can as soon as Motorola can get around to it, eh?)
Bizarre, obsolete language with weird syntax and arrays you can't change or put primitives in? Nope, that's iOS. Have to buy a crAppintosh to develop software for it? Nope, that's iOS. Terrible, ridiculously, absurdly arbitrary app approval process? Nope, that's iOS. Could go on, but why bother?
Different resolutions? I have to deal with that on iOS for 3 devices at a minimum. Plus, if you can't architect your solutions to handle that problem, you need to learn to do so, people on PCs/Mac don't like you telling them what size to run their software either, lol...
Different cameras? They work the same way, what do I care? Hardware differences? I have to deal with this on iOS as well, 3G/Wifi/Processor power, iOS version, et cetera.
The whole point is that everything is fragmented enough, this is why I was irritated with Google doing what crApple has done with the iPad (giving it features the other platforms don't have support for even though they could.)
Personally I wish they all ran Linux and Qt!:)
iOS isn't terrible, but it's got some weirdness to it (no services/daemons anyone? [unless your name is crApple that is...])
Yes, Android has warts too (what is it with Google always having to give perfectly well understood concepts new names and terminology?)...end rant...
Yes, I prefer Android purely from a development point of view. No, my opinion is not more important than yours. Yes, I can understand how someone could feel the opposite - yadda ^ 3.
The differences on the crApple hardware are tiny, I do make allowances for screens and 3G/WiFi availability, but I've no desire to support two different UIs. I pick a common denominator for OS versions (both crApple and Android.)
The good news is that Google has clarified that this should be a temporary divergence and that long term it'll all be good.
...anyone else think this is a seriously bad idea?
You're essentially creating two operating systems to develop for. Now I don't just have to support the quirks of iPhone+iPad+iTouch/Android I have to support Android Tablet as well.
I seriously hope, and there very likely is, a plan at Google exists for merging at 3.1 or something similar. Come on Google, Android is much more developer friendly than iOS, let's keep it that way (please note that I did not say 'better'.)
Wozniack has made objective reports that he is a "terrible" person. Really? Terrible?
I did not stipulate the The Woz said he is either a terrible person or made 'objective reports' [sic] about Steve Jobs. You asked by what objective accounts do I deem Steve Jobs a terrible person. I gave you an example source. There are many.
no report made on the character of another person is truly objective
That is untrue unless you consider all objectivity impossible. Making an observation on someone's character is objective if you have no bias against that person. I used The Woz as an objective example when he's likely to be actually biased somewhat towards Steve Jobs (although I've always found him to be a reliable observer who was good at distinguishing between what he has observed and what he feels.)
No reason to wish them ill health.
I quite specifically stated that I did not wish him ill health.
You act as if you know of Steve Jobs past and present, so if you still think he's not a poor example of a human being, what's the point in arguing?
If you don't know much about Steve Jobs, you should read up on what people who know him and respect him say about him.
My primary reasons for finding him to be a terrible person are the accounts relating to how he has treated his daughter, The Woz, his employees, handicap parking, his manipulation of the organ waiting list through multiple listing, and his general total dishonesty in business.
What a ridiculous argument.
You might as well argue that everyone dump HTML in favor of a better application development environment not based on an utter mishmash of technologies.
I've never heard of an OS maker having to crawl to Adobe to request a plugin, in point of fact - Adobe has been trying to get a flash player on iOS for years.
Is that you Steve? Shouldn't you be stealing somebody's liver?
You can put flash on it now, and it is officially supposed to be on Xoom on the 18th of this month.
Don't get me wrong, my iPad2 is fantastic, except for one GLARING hole - no prospect of flash.
One has Flash and the other doesn't.
Don't get me wrong, I have an iPad2 (I'm getting a wifi only Xoom later this month) and it's great and seems to beat Xoom in quite a few areas, but I cannot fathom how you can compare their web experiences and call them equivalent when flash still doesn't exist on iOS due to Jobs' ridiculous ego.
Yes, you can go buy straight from the farm (or hire someone to build your furniture); however, this is what people in the market are trying to do but can't.
The analogy would be similar to someone telling a farmer "hey, I like your prices I've seen right now so I'd like a few dozen eggs..." and the farmer puts the eggs on the truck for delivery; unfortunately the trucking company stops by the docks where men of dubious and flexible morals are standing around and they buy YOUR eggs off the truck driver but don't take them off the truck because they don't want them, they just want to squeeze a little extra money off of you so they raise the price a bit.
In other words, you believe you are dealing directly with the farmer but you're actually getting screwed by the trucking company and the men whose moral standings are lying down...
...get the entire area around my neighborhood listed as having 10mbps-25mbps speeds when they have repeatedly informed me that there is no possible option above 1.5mbps download in my area... Hmmm... Did the government just grab this data from their marketing info? LOL...
I don't need your help, I didn't ask anyone for help, and I certainly wouldn't entertain help from someone like yourself.
I know exactly what the issue is and I've debugged the problem perfectly well. Just because I didn't explain every single thing I did doesn't mean I didn't do anything. You seem to think you're on some help AVS forum where someone posted a 'help me' query. You're not. You're on slashdot where someone made a post complaining about some of the implementations of HDCP by the industry, someone who knows what they're doing.
'Fancy-pants' tv? What are you, 12? LOL.
I bet an inordinately large number of your interactions with people online end this way - while your real space interactions are simple awkward and silently fill you with misdirected rage...
Have a nice day :)
What part of this are you missing? I didn't get some random
weird issues which HDCP and HDMI sometimes include [sic]
, I got a very specific error message from the Motorola Cable box that I researched for possible causes and discovered was related to the number of HDCP devices that are connected 'downstream.' I'm not quite sure how you missed that.
Nope, the cable box told me I was pirating, almost literally - "your HDCP has been comprimised" et cetera. The worst part is that the cable people seem to know absolutely nothing about this problem; however, I think it will be something they run into more and more in the future.
I feel your pain amigo... LOL.
* Incidentally, what's the point of a digital audio out if the only thing that ever comes out of it is 2 channel stereo?
Monster Cables says it's faster...
...are legitimate users of video content, sometimes even when it isn't hi def...
My setup is a total pain in the a** because of HDCP.
I wanted to do something really simple this summer - show my cable box feed on the TV in our home gym (a glorified name for room with treadmill in it), so I looked at my options:
(1)Get another Cable box for that TV - no, I'm not interested in paying another $15/month just so I can watch TV in a room for an hour every other day.
(2)Run yet another HDMI cable to the TV - this was not really an option since it would be 35 feet from the cable box with various openings between the box and the destination TV - ergo, expensive, mess, and requiring HDMI amplifies and extremely long cable runs.
(3)Go wireless and get an Air Synch HD (or something similar) - up front cost is not cheap, but no new cables, no new box, only turn it on when I want, et cetera.
So, I get my new wireless HDMI system in, yay! Looks cool, setup seems simple - so I try it out. Cool, XBox 360 play over it just fine, BluRay player works over it just fine, cable box? Oh, whoops, green screen on cable. Never seen that before.
So, long story short, it turns out there's this little feature of HDCP that is only just now starting to bite people in the a** called "downstream devices." Apparently, a source device using HDCP can restrict the number OF HDCP CAPABLE DEVICES that can be chained together to get to your TV or projector. Note that it is a restriction on LEGITIMATE HDCP licensed devices ffs. Most HDCP capable devices have a somewhat large number of possible downstream devices (there's no requirement in the standard - the bastards) but some of them just one or two. This means that if you connect your source device, such as my Motorola DVR, to a receiver (which counts as an HDCP device in this chain) and your projector connects to the receiver you've maxed out the number of devices.
Along comes some poor schmuck (me in this scenario) and puts a wireless HDMI transmitter between my TV and my receiver - *bang* the cable box says "you're trying to pirate my HDCP encrypted signal, I will show you a green screen."
Do they really think they're preventing movie piracy when someone can simply use some soldering tools and an programmable gate array and components available over the internet and strip HDCP? Hell, you can buy HDFury and setup a good recording system.
The only people they're actually screwing are people like me who sit around for 15 seconds waiting for all their HDCP devices to decide to get along and show video and/or audio.
(BTW, I simply connected the cable box to the receiver with component cables and optical audio - but I guess that solution will be on its way to the trash can as soon as Motorola can get around to it, eh?)
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Go **** Yourself SONY...
...don't jump into the deep end if you don't know how to swim.
It is far more developer friendly.
Bizarre, obsolete language with weird syntax and arrays you can't change or put primitives in? Nope, that's iOS.
Have to buy a crAppintosh to develop software for it? Nope, that's iOS.
Terrible, ridiculously, absurdly arbitrary app approval process? Nope, that's iOS.
Could go on, but why bother?
Different resolutions? I have to deal with that on iOS for 3 devices at a minimum. Plus, if you can't architect your solutions to handle that problem, you need to learn to do so, people on PCs/Mac don't like you telling them what size to run their software either, lol...
Different cameras? They work the same way, what do I care? Hardware differences? I have to deal with this on iOS as well, 3G/Wifi/Processor power, iOS version, et cetera.
The whole point is that everything is fragmented enough, this is why I was irritated with Google doing what crApple has done with the iPad (giving it features the other platforms don't have support for even though they could.)
Personally I wish they all ran Linux and Qt! :)
iOS isn't terrible, but it's got some weirdness to it (no services/daemons anyone? [unless your name is crApple that is...])
Yes, Android has warts too (what is it with Google always having to give perfectly well understood concepts new names and terminology?) ...end rant...
Yes, I prefer Android purely from a development point of view. No, my opinion is not more important than yours. Yes, I can understand how someone could feel the opposite - yadda ^ 3.
The differences on the crApple hardware are tiny, I do make allowances for screens and 3G/WiFi availability, but I've no desire to support two different UIs. I pick a common denominator for OS versions (both crApple and Android.)
The good news is that Google has clarified that this should be a temporary divergence and that long term it'll all be good.
...anyone else think this is a seriously bad idea?
You're essentially creating two operating systems to develop for. Now I don't just have to support the quirks of iPhone+iPad+iTouch/Android I have to support Android Tablet as well.
I seriously hope, and there very likely is, a plan at Google exists for merging at 3.1 or something similar. Come on Google, Android is much more developer friendly than iOS, let's keep it that way (please note that I did not say 'better'.)
...a la the PS3 and XBox 360 development houses...?
I guess you were just too lazy to look things up and still wanted to disagree
Where, exactly, do you think you are? ;) (Not that I am always guilt free in this department either...)
Lol, sorry, I still can't remember to call them 'Mac Pro' desktops.
My mother recently recovered from Pancreatic cancer, she was VERY VERY fortunate. I'll be thinking of you, and wishing you the best.
sorry, *doubt
I don't The Woz would say anyone is a terrible person. He's a big sweet cuddly genius teddy bear. Job's isn't the devil, but he's a terrible person.
I'm no anti-Apple zealot either - I just bought a new Power Mac Desktop, and the wife has an iPhone.
Wozniack has made objective reports that he is a "terrible" person. Really? Terrible?
I did not stipulate the The Woz said he is either a terrible person or made 'objective reports' [sic] about Steve Jobs. You asked by what objective accounts do I deem Steve Jobs a terrible person. I gave you an example source. There are many.
no report made on the character of another person is truly objective
That is untrue unless you consider all objectivity impossible. Making an observation on someone's character is objective if you have no bias against that person. I used The Woz as an objective example when he's likely to be actually biased somewhat towards Steve Jobs (although I've always found him to be a reliable observer who was good at distinguishing between what he has observed and what he feels.)
No reason to wish them ill health.
I quite specifically stated that I did not wish him ill health.
You act as if you know of Steve Jobs past and present, so if you still think he's not a poor example of a human being, what's the point in arguing?
If you don't know much about Steve Jobs, you should read up on what people who know him and respect him say about him.
My primary reasons for finding him to be a terrible person are the accounts relating to how he has treated his daughter, The Woz, his employees, handicap parking, his manipulation of the organ waiting list through multiple listing, and his general total dishonesty in business.
People who know him but don't have an anti-Apple bias, for example 'The Woz.'