Exactly! Public schools (and public librarys)! This is exactly where Linux and GPL should excell. It boggles my mind for PUBLIC institutions to pay for software.
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Agrees that Society would be better than Fraternity.
Re:Perhaps a trade organization...
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I think the American Medical Association never intended "to provide collective bargaining and negotiating leverage for workers that are in danger of being treated like a disposable widget by their employer".
Again, the point is not to form a _labor_ union...but rather a political union.
Score 4 for insightful? The article was about a political union, not a labor union. Striking against ridiculus or dangerous legislation, NOT management-employee relations.
I rather think you missed the point.
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Would a Physist be allowed in? There are more Geeks than programmers.
But there is no correlation between spelling ability and intelligence! As an atrocious speller who scored college level reading comprehension in the 4th grade I am an example. I also do math. The ability to percieve, the ability to analyse/synthesize, the ability to arrange thoughts coherently, the ability to express said thoughts in a given medium, with due consideration to the audiance (to avoid an impedence mismatch) and oh yeah, right, the ability to spell. Quess one needs to empahsis what what can do? (Thats last ones supposed to be a joke, son).
Serious question: What if I monitor the change of states, as you refered to ("clean room") and I ALSO decompile for the purpose of easing the documenting of said changes? If the new product is written from scratch? That is, if the only use of the decompile is to further the understanding of the flow of the change of states?>br> Would it be ok if one person did the above, to create a flowchart? Then another used the flowchart to code a new algorith without ever looking at the decompiled code?
Does it matter if one uses a one-to-one mapping of the input/outputs rather than augmenting this with decompiled source code? (Again, assuming that no code is stollen for the new implementation?)
So as long as I don't install it I can reverse engineer it? Could this be true? (hehehe) Would they believe me if I told them I thought it was true??? (hehehe hehehe hehehe)-*deviously chuckles*
I have one of those HP "riser for expansion card" PCs! The only solution is to design my own case...being able to get in (and get testprobes in) is essential.
I would suggest that it is the predominance of linux/appache as a server that fostered the release of the QT server. By enabling servers they allow the broadcasting of their format. Which is then viewable within the predominant desktop enviornment...
I take exception to the pedagogue label. Users do have valid input. Unless one intends to develop userless systems? Summary: The Net gives voice...yes. (a good thing) FSF gives a cause...and linux is sometimes an appropriate cause...yes. (a good thing) (MS i do hate...i admit it...). With a cause, and a means to express oneself...how is this mere socialization? Are you suggesting the cause is less than worthy? Or that a user is somehow incapable of understanding the cause? No one has any intellegence but developers? (But 3 out of 4 isn't bad.:=)
actually regulation, propaganda, spending...many forces besides brute physical force what is at issue is the AVAILIBILITY of choice, and how the available market was influenced. you can't buy a product that has been torpedoed
"Bill was never really a hacker in the first place like so many Unix heroes were/are, he just funded projects and used other people's work to his advantage "
reply: "More FUD and lies. Bill's simply more successful than anyone else because he was the first to realise the truth: There is no such thing as a software project, there are only business projects with a software element. "
Actually not FUD, not a lie. The two statements are BOTH TRUE in their context.
The only "FUD" is the lie that statement one is FUD or a lie.
Wonders if my Physics Programming Project was a software project? There was no business plan...
Actually everything was there, i know, I ran win3.1 with DR-Dos.
What I experienced was a screen warning me to call MicroSoft, as an "error" had been "detected". The OS-test (as i read much later) was based on the offset address. addr=base+offset The addr was the same, but from a different base a diffent offset was used...so it should have worked... Win3.1 tested the offset just to determine if MS-Dos or DR-Dos was running. The phone call was to a lackey who determined that i "probably wouldn't have this problem if i ran MS-Dos". Off course not. They had designed it to fail.
MS has written applications i would use, if: i were rich...someone else paid for them... AND they ran under linux (or another stable, open, well documented OS) Marketing aside, its the OS, not the apps, that i dislike.
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mozilla mathML group are scurrying...they freeze mid-august.
this is whats gonna be the next "netscape", yes? freeze in august to release in march...?
auto updates: also Netscape and Yahoo!
Exactly!
Public schools (and public librarys)!
This is exactly where Linux and GPL should excell. It boggles my mind for PUBLIC institutions to pay for software.
Agrees that Society would be better than Fraternity.
I think the American Medical Association never intended "to provide collective bargaining and negotiating leverage for workers that are in danger of being treated like a disposable widget by their employer".
Again, the point is not to form a _labor_ union...but rather a political union.
Score 4 for insightful?
The article was about a political union, not a labor union. Striking against ridiculus or dangerous legislation, NOT management-employee relations.
I rather think you missed the point.
Would a Physist be allowed in? There are more Geeks than programmers.
But there is no correlation between spelling ability and intelligence! As an atrocious speller who scored college level reading comprehension in the 4th grade I am an example. I also do math.
The ability to percieve,
the ability to analyse/synthesize,
the ability to arrange thoughts coherently,
the ability to express said thoughts in a given medium, with due consideration to the audiance (to avoid an impedence mismatch)
and oh yeah, right, the ability to spell.
Quess one needs to empahsis what what can do? (Thats last ones supposed to be a joke, son).
Serious question:
What if I monitor the change of states, as you refered to ("clean room") and I ALSO decompile for the purpose of easing the documenting of said changes? If the new product is written from scratch? That is, if the only use of the decompile is to further the understanding of the flow of the change of states?>br>
Would it be ok if one person did the above, to create a flowchart? Then another used the flowchart to code a new algorith without ever looking at the decompiled code?
Does it matter if one uses a one-to-one mapping of the input/outputs rather than augmenting this with decompiled source code? (Again, assuming that no code is stollen for the new implementation?)
So as long as I don't install it I can reverse engineer it? Could this be true? (hehehe) Would they believe me if I told them I thought it was true??? (hehehe hehehe hehehe)-*deviously chuckles*
I have one of those HP "riser for expansion card" PCs! The only solution is to design my own case...being able to get in (and get testprobes in) is essential.
I would suggest that it is the predominance of linux/appache as a server that fostered the release of the QT server. By enabling servers they allow the broadcasting of their format. Which is then viewable within the predominant desktop enviornment...
I take exception to the pedagogue label. Users do have valid input. Unless one intends to develop userless systems? Summary: The Net gives voice...yes. (a good thing) FSF gives a cause...and linux is sometimes an appropriate cause...yes. (a good thing) (MS i do hate...i admit it...). With a cause, and a means to express oneself...how is this mere socialization? Are you suggesting the cause is less than worthy? Or that a user is somehow incapable of understanding the cause? No one has any intellegence but developers? (But 3 out of 4 isn't bad. :=)
actually regulation, propaganda, spending...many forces besides brute physical force
what is at issue is the AVAILIBILITY of choice, and how the available market was influenced.
you can't buy a product that has been torpedoed
"Bill was never really a hacker in the first place like so many Unix heroes were/are, he just funded projects and used other people's work to his advantage "
reply:
"More FUD and lies. Bill's simply more successful than anyone else because he was the first to realise the truth: There is no such thing as a software project, there are only business projects with a software element. "
Actually not FUD, not a lie.
The two statements are BOTH TRUE in their context.
The only "FUD" is the lie that statement one is FUD or a lie.
Wonders if my Physics Programming Project was a software project? There was no business plan...
DeskView actually did multitasking. Windows didn't at that time. Windows merely did task swapping. But DeskView was NOT a GUI. (DeskView was sweet!)
Gem i never played with. But DR-Dos was way ahead of MS-Dos at that time, yes!
Yes, and it wasn't even a compatibility test.
It was an "exsistance" test. Does MS-Dos exsist on this machine? No? Gotcha!
There is a difference between support:
"spend the R&D money to make sure it worked on a competitor's product"
and spending the money to break the product.
BIG DIFFERENCE.
actually...it wasn't just in the betas...
i purchased my win3.1 thru HP when i bought my Vectra thru their employee purchase plan
It was not beta.
Actually everything was there, i know, I ran win3.1 with DR-Dos.
What I experienced was a screen warning me to call MicroSoft, as an "error" had been "detected".
The OS-test (as i read much later) was based on the offset address.
addr=base+offset
The addr was the same, but from a different base a diffent
offset was used...so it should have worked...
Win3.1 tested the offset just to determine if MS-Dos or DR-Dos was running.
The phone call was to a lackey who determined
that i "probably wouldn't have this problem if i ran MS-Dos".
Off course not. They had designed it to fail.
...more of a libertarian Penguin?
MS has written applications i would use, if:
i were rich...someone else paid for them...
AND they ran under linux
(or another stable, open, well documented OS)
Marketing aside, its the OS, not the apps, that
i dislike.
Actually IT and MIS are filled with people who
can't do the math or write the code...
At least thats where the CS dropouts I have known
have gone...
i am offended at this post... very hostile, very sad
Sun Tzu loses credibility